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to protect... or not to protect

a question for those of you who've had their Execs for a little while now: what's the screen like? I was paranoid about scratching mine with the stylus so put a screen protector after a day or two.
problem is it feels so thick that I might as well have thrown a big blanket over the screen... the exec doesn't notice the stylus unless I press really quite hard, so it might be defeating the purpose anyway
what do people think?
is there anyone who has been using theirs for a while without a protector who could say what the screen is like now?

you should use the screen protector. otherwise your screen will look like mine... however, i use it too much...
i've made a mistake and bought a GOOD protector when i noticed the damage on the screen.
So don't be that stupid as me and buy it before it's too late.
BTW, i bought one from www.Innopocket.com and it is still on my screen for last 6 months...
It is non glare, very hard surface, thin protector.
Writing is exactly the same as without it. Screen visibility is much better WITH it, thanx to it's non reflective surface.
buzz

Agree with buzz - you can be as carful as u want but dust on screen makes stylus scratchy.
Having said that, for my last few XDA's they all got scratched, THEN I put a protector on and they look as good as new!

I have had 5 or 6 different pocket pc's over time all of them for at least a year, i never ever used a screen protector and when i sold them they were almust as new without scratches.
My universal wont get a screen protector on that gives me a bad picture quality. i wanna enjoy the great screen on the device, not walking around with a bad screen so the next owner can have a good screen.
just my two cents

the best screen protectors are made by martin fields....you wont even know its there!
go here to buy... www.doml.com

frozenwaffles said:
the best screen protectors are made by martin fields....you wont even know its there!
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yeah - that's the type i'm using... although i'm really not getting on with it - like i say, it feels really thick, and seems to make the screen far less responsive
i spent quite a bit on it, though - so am reluctant to try buying others, and gotta admit, i was hoping to hear that i could just pull it off and forget about it

you should get one from Brando HK. their ultra clear screen protector is the best protector I have ever used on earth.

Yes you should use a screen protector.
Not only does it protect screen it also reduces glair very usefull if you use GPS. I got mine from www.proporta.com ther also do a nice case.
Regards
Colin Bate

I had a wallaby for 12 months & a himalaya for 18 months, both without protectors & both looked fine when it came time to sell. I carried them in my pocket with the screen facing my leg. As you can close the screen on the exec, I'm even less concerned.
However, the anti glare part sounds like a good thing
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teckyiau said:
you should get one from Brando HK. their ultra clear screen protector is the best protector I have ever used on earth.
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Which are the best you've used in other places? j/k

do you use a screenprotector?

Do you use a screenprotector on your trinity? I do, one from Brando, but I don't like it and am thinking about removing it...
Is anyones screen already damaged?

Is it possible to put it perfectly at all ?! I mean I must be in a totaly sterile envoirement with gloves and special suit and God knows how and what skill I must have to put it right
My Trinity is one day old but I will surely remove it in a couple of days, can't look at it with this ugly bubbles beneath

The first thing I do when I get any new device is get a screen protector for it, and it goes on before I ever start using the device. I've gone through a lot of PDA's over time and one thing I can say is that you get better at putting on the protectors and you get used to the odd bubble or piece of dust underneath. It's far better than what happens to your screen without a screen protector over time.
The best way to put the protector on is to carefully peel just a bit of one edge and line it up at the top of the screen. Then use the included card to slide the rest down the screen, the paper backing will peel off as you do this and it helps to prevent bubbles and dust getting on the stick side of the film.

If you don't like bubbles, try a brand that is not adhesive. Most people don't like the type that slips under the case but I do. I've been using NuShield protectors for a couple of years on 4 different PDAs and they are great IMO. I don't use a case (store in pocket) and NuShields are very durable - easily lasting 6 mo.

I'm using a brando ultraclear for K-Jam in my p3600... it works perfect... I haven't any sort of bubbles because i put it the first day i got my new device.. so device under it was very clean and the result is PERFECT

shoey5 said:
...you get used to the odd bubble or piece of dust underneath. It's far better than what happens to your screen without a screen protector over time.
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Completely agree!

I'm using Covertec Screenprotector(for S100), and it works like hell!
The screenprotector is about 1-1,5 mm thick, so it's pretty thick compared to many other brands, but the advantage is that it's almost impossible to get airbubbles, and the screenprotector is 110% clear! So you won't even see it's there!
Comes in a pack with two protectors, one with UV-filter, and one which is ultra-clear...
Can highly recomend them... No need for a "anti-bubble-wiper-thingy"

1.5mm thick?!?!?! That's thicker than a "anti-bubble-wiper-thingy". I have wetsuites that thick. You talking about a case or a screen protector?
LOL
No offense - just having fun. Some are actually quite thick in comparison.

Hehe! Well, ok; maybe it's a bit thinner... But it's about the thickness of a playing card, and just as stiff as one too...
And no, it's not a casing, or a wetsuit... Maybe a drysuit haha!

I use protector, but got 2 bubbles which I want to try to remove.
Can anyone tell me how to remove the protector without using anything thin and sharp?
Asbjørn

Tape. Take a 1-2 inch long piece of tape and press one end on a corner of the protector. Then pull

I can't get my screenprotector removed...not even with tape

Hate screen protectors. Don't use them. My nephew has a Jam which is years old and hasn't had a protector. NO screen scratches -- only a little dullness where the SIP keyboard is but that buffs out in seconds once a year using Displex. No scratches from keys even though it's subject to some abuse and the casing is scratched and dented. Thus I myself have no crap on my P3600's screen.

Im not a fan of cases or screen protectors, but I got 1 for my p3600. Its pretty good, I just wish it was about 2mm wider, since the left edge doesnt quite go till the very end of the screen which is annoying.

I got my screen protector from 'Javoedge.com' , it cost me about £8.50 but it is worth every penny.
It is cut to the exact size of the Trinity screen and fits really well. It is so thin that it slides beneath the White plastic case of my Trinity and the screen itself, so there are no edges of the screen protector to be seen.
I agree that you must take your time when installing it to try and get the edges straight, but when it's on it fits and looks great.
I opted for the super clear version and not the anti-glare version.
Great product!

Invisible shield from ShieldZone.com
I'm using an "Invisible Shield" from ShieldZone.com for my P3600. At the time I got mine, it didn't exist any pre-cut version for the P3600, so I ended up with a pre-cut TyTN shield, since they have the same screen size.
The first 2-3 days the result wasn't that good as I had some bubbles under the shield, but they disappeared after some days.
Watch the demo videos on ShieldZone.com, and I guess you will be as impressed as I'm with this shield.
-Bjørn

Hi people.
I am soon gonna be a happy owner of a Trinity and i will definately buy a screen protector for my device. Can you please give me your opinion on different brands you have tried?What brand would you recommend buying?
Thanks

I have a Brando one that they now market as a P3600 version.
It sticks to the screen with static so no glue or residue if you remove it. Also this means it is washable too. The static provides more than enough force to keep it on the screen. In fact it is stuck fast. Only by pulling a piece of tape stuck to it by both ends will remove it.
My only problem is more with screenprotectors in general. Since they add extra thickness to the screen they do affect the sensitivity of the touchscreen. So for a while you will write with the stylus and you wont be using enough force. You get used to it, but it would still be nicer to find a thinner membrane.

Mine is a Clear Touch Crystal from Boxwave. I've used Boxwave's products for years and found them to have very high durability and quality. The screen looks like it has nothing on it at all when the device is on. I find that it actually seems to improve touchscreen accuracy and feel.
The only problem I have had with screen protectors in general is that if they are cut too close to the borders of the screen, that is, if they fit too well, they seem to interfere with the screen's ability to detect taps. I think it is interfering with the digitizer. Every time I have installed a protector PERFECTLY leaving no gaps on any side, the screen stops responding until I remove the protector and reinstall it with the edges trimmed in about 1 mm on all sides. I don't think that you need to have all edges trimmed, but I do it for uniformity's sake.
Hope this helps someone who gets a protector and then thinks they broke their device by installing it like I did my first time.......ahhh to be young again.....

@olsenbjo
Does the Invisible Sheild cover the entire device, or just the screen?
Thanks!

Which screen protector are u using?

Hi folks!
I just checked out ebay and other sources and discovered that a lot of new products for protecting your babies screen hit the market since Brando's Ultra Clear for my Kaiser
I found liquid products, silicone coatings, lotus effect stuff, several new brands, solutions for just the screen or the whole Touch Pro...
Are u using the shipped screen protector or anything else?

Brando, as with any other device.

i'm just using the screen protector that came with the phone...don't really see a reason to use another kind

koppee1 said:
i'm just using the screen protector that came with the phone...don't really see a reason to use another kind
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When it wears out, get a Brando or Martin Fields. You will notice a difference.

Martin Fields

which one from brando should I take:
-original
-ultra clear

Exim screen protector... le deluxe! I've been using this brand forever. I don't feel like putting a $5 protector on a once $1050 but now $850 phone.

Take UltraClear, they're better for Touch Pro.

Wich one doesn't smudge as much as the regular one delivered with the device? Or is it just me having greasy fingers?

I have UltraClear and the smudges are all over the screen, I think I'll have to get used to it.

I only use Boxwave. They're the best.
According to this review, they're better than Brando.
http://www.brighthand.com/article/Protect_Your_Screen
I've got one on my Digital Rebel and Nintendo DS. Love them.

wat bout invisible shield any1 use it on ur touch pro
my major problem now is the screen protector that given by htc after a few day of using it has some scratches on the screen protector =/

MPenguin said:
I only use Boxwave. They're the best.
According to this review, they're better than Brando.
http://www.brighthand.com/article/Protect_Your_Screen
I've got one on my Digital Rebel and Nintendo DS. Love them.
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Hmm, a review dating back to 2003, is getting to be a bit old now, don't you think?
I've ordered a Brando one, I've yet to set it.

Not really. We're not dealing with statistics here. Have plastic and adhesive technology changed so much in 5 years?
I've read reviews on the Brando and I've personally used Boxwave.
I'm sure I could find other reviews with different search terms, but it would do little good since you already ordered.
Anyway, no intarweb review is going to tip your mind. Better to just order them and try them out.

I have not received my Touch Pro yet, but I bought a box wave....I've used all except for Brando and I can say for me Box Wave have performed the best so far.

I'm using the Brando Ultra clear.
+It's extremely easy to apply without air pockets underneath.
-It's very fragile and withing a week I have 2 scratches in the screen protector
The screen protector you get with the Touch Pro is a lot less fragile but very crappy when it comes to applying it.

just ordered a box wave so I will report back and let you guys know how I like it. I got the crystal not the anti glare.

Using Exim SPUC Screen Protector since a few days and like it, quality is good, there's even a part to protect the bottom buttons

Just got the antiglare from Brando and applied it. I don't know but it doesnt seem easy for me to apply it properly.
I'll rest now and if I can, share photo of how it looks tomorrow.

Just installed a Boxwave anti-glare protector. The jury is still out for me on the portion that covers the keypad below the screen as it does interfere somewhat with the smoothness of the d-pad and center butten, but I do like the screen protector itself. It is definitely not fingerprint proof like advertised, but I do notice a reduction in glare as well as, more importantly, a good increase in touch sensitivity over the stock unit that came with the device.
I also ordered a crystal version that I have not yet installed.

Best screen protector?

Zagg Invinsible shield?
Brando?
CP SCREEN PROTECTOR?
Other?
Which one is least visible and leaves no bubbles?

Expert Shield is by far the best i have come across.

shouldn't this be posted in Blackstone accessories ?

The best screen protector is BRANDO protector,
always buying this and definitely the best.
Durable, you can wash them and reuse, etc...
here is link:
http://shop.brando.com.hk/prod_detail.php?prod_id=02912&dept_id=039&cat_id=0980

Proporta !!!
Hey ,
This one works realy fine for me . Not the easiest to put on.
But seems indistructible and washable.
And looks very cool on my Blackstone.
http://www.proporta.com/F02/PPF02P05.php?t_id=4097&t_mode=des

better think twice before using a mirrored screen protector! yes they do look cool, but the glare makes the hd impossible to use outside or in bright light conditions (much worse than normal), and occasionally frustrating in normal light. they also magnify fingerprints and smudges horribly. i'm constantly rubbing mine against my shirt to clean it
i bought a pack of two and gave one to my daughter and it didnt last the day before she pulled it off. i'm considering a brando non-mirrored in the next week or two.. i really dont like it. ifyour in a dimly lit office all day, it might work for you

Vikuiti DQC160 3M Screen Protector for HTC Touch HD, by far the best screen protector i have used. Not even one scratch after 2 months and very easy aplication.
http://www.amazon.de/Vikuiti-DQC-16...=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=ce-de&qid=1233388812&sr=8-2

Brando is very very good

Martin Fields for me.

lucian777 said:
Vikuiti DQC160 3M Screen Protector for HTC Touch HD, by far the best screen protector i have used. Not even one scratch after 2 months and very easy aplication.
http://www.amazon.de/Vikuiti-DQC-16...=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=ce-de&qid=1233388812&sr=8-2
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This might be a stupid question, but that screen protector isn't on the us version of amazon. Google will not translate the page either... Therefore, how does a non-dutch speaking person order one of these?
I really like 3m products.. Anyone?

I'm quite happy with EXIM screen protectors :
http://www.eximstyle.com/productpage/sp_SPUC.html

My vote goes to Brando crystal clear - very good, can't see it there, and touch is the same.

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This might be a stupid question, but that screen protector isn't on the us version of amazon. Google will not translate the page either... Therefore, how does a non-dutch speaking person order one of these?
I really like 3m products.. Anyone?
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I'm from Europe ..and i speak dutch..by the way this is the translated page from google
http://translate.google.com/transla...1233388812&sr=8-2&sl=de&tl=en&history_state0=

I have tried almost all the above mentioned screen protectors but Martin fields and i can say with pride that if you want your device to last for years looking same GO for INVISIBLE SHIELD. With brando, you have to change every few month otherwise the scratches start to appear on the protector

Yeah, but the Invisible Shield just looks so bleh. No way to get the film to fit flush along the border of the screen where it meets the body of the phone. The film just floats in that area, basically creating a void that appears as an air bubble along the whole perimeter of the screen.
They really weren't thinking when they made the cut for that film. No reason not to have made one dedicated piece for the screen, separate from the side of the phone body. If they took one second to have actually looked at the phone itself, they would have realized this.
It does help give a better grip/handle on the phone, due to the silicon material. However, it just looks ... eh. Certainly not invisible. At all. It does change the look of the phone. Looks much cheaper. But I guess scratches'll do that too.
That silicon material also changes the feel of interacting with the touch screen. It does have some give to it. So it feels like you get more compression as the stylus sinks into it. And your fingers/stylus will not glide as easily as you might expect for this type of input method. It's not a hindrance, per se, but it will be different.
Installed the front and the bottom piece. Stopped there. Didn't want that glossy rubber-like material covering the flat-black rubber-tone finish of the back cover and the brushed aluminum finish surrounding the lens.
Would really like a dedicated film for the screen that kept the same physical feel of the screen - more like a glassy/plastic film - and a separate one that protected all the glossy black lacquer finished pieces.

The Zagg Invisible Shield is rubbish. It tries to cover the screen and the chrome bits around the screen with the same piece, so it doesn't fit as well as it should

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The Zagg Invisible Shield is rubbish. It tries to cover the screen and the chrome bits around the screen with the same piece, so it doesn't fit as well as it should
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I guess you got the limited bling edition.

are there any anti-glare screen protector around, like the iphone one? Been searching around but couldn't find any, would be good if there are plans for it.

there are many, almost all manufactures have a clear and a non-reflecting version. I use Exim crystal clear protector and Im very, very happy!! I have it since the first days I bought my blackstone (I bought it on November, 21st) and it lasts until now, without any issue!! I'm using my phone full-time, about 6 hours a day, non-stop, so I think this is a really good protection! and it looks like it's not there so, decide yourself, the problem with non-reflective ones is, that you have not such a clear view, but it's only minimal. For me anyway, I need to have a very clear one, cause I'm most of the time inside buildings and I want for watching movies, have absolute clear screen^^ that's it

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I'm from Europe ..and i speak dutch..by the way this is the translated page from google
http://translate.google.com/transla...1233388812&sr=8-2&sl=de&tl=en&history_state0=
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thanks... but when i clicked to add one to the basket, google stopped translating, so i was stuck. so i ordered a brando protector. the mirrored one was way cool and very impressive, but i drive a lot, and it made my hd unusable when the sun was out. so bad that i pulled it off and my hd is unprotected untill the brando arrives

Screen Protector - A Must?

How many of you are using a screen protector?
I just can't install this damn thing without making bubbles between the screen
and the screen protector.
Tried putting invisible shield today which covers the entire device. it came with
some spray to avoid dust but i'm still not happy with it. on the back it's ok, but
the front shield was so ugly and unclear that made me to remove it and now
i'm with no front protector at all.
The screen is more clear now but i'm afraid to scratch it.
Does anyone know how to install the screen protector in a way which it will be
totally unnoticeable?

I haven't ever used one, I find they make the screen less responsive. I do have a few scratches on my screen though but they are invisible when the screen is backlit...

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How many of you are using a screen protector?
I just can't install this damn thing without making bubbles between the screen
and the screen protector.
Tried putting invisible shield today which covers the entire device. it came with
some spray to avoid dust but i'm still not happy with it. on the back it's ok, but
the front shield was so ugly and unclear that made me to remove it and now
i'm with no front protector at all.
The screen is more clear now but i'm afraid to scratch it.
Does anyone know how to install the screen protector in a way which it will be
totally unnoticeable?
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Your screen protector is a must as scratches can appear on your screen very easily without it.
As for the bubbles I've managed to get mine on with only a couple of bubbles around the speaker & 3G camera. Doesn't bother me to much any more
Try this thread as it has a number of recommendations on which is the best screen protector to use

Yes, the screen protector is a must!
Especially for a device with such a huge display. I have read here about cracked displays and I am sure that screen protectors give added resistance against cracking (besides their primary function against scratches).
It takes PATIENCE to apply one though. I wasted 2 before i managed to put one flawlessly (well almost)
Some of the protectors can be washed and re-applied.

Do you really think it has some impact on the way the screen respond ? Does the screen protector makes the bends more noticeable when you press on the center of the screen ?

I've used my Universal for over 3 years with no scrren protector, and there is a mark in the top right where the X icon is but no other issues. However the Universal is a clam shell design so the scrren is protected when it's in my pocket. I don't think I'd want to use the HD without one.
I couldn't fit the screen protector that came with the HD properly because it has to be done with microscopic precision. However I bought 6 protecoter for £3 on Ebay from Ecell and am very happy. They're much easier to fit because they're a fraction smaller, plus you can use a couple to practice with and still have spares left over.

I use the protector from day one and I can't imagine not using it. It's just too much of a risk, and by watching my used protectors, how they're covered with scratches, some of them quite big and quite deep. I would not want to have this permanently on my screen.
I have bought some additional protectors as well. I predict I will be changing protectors every 3 or 4 months.
I have no idea why everyone seems to have so much problems with applying them. It was very easy for me to apply both the stock protector and the Brando protector. Just clean the front screen as thoroughly as possible with a piece of cloth that does not leave those small fabric hairs. I used a cleaning cloth for glasses, and put a few drops of window cleaning fluid as well to remove eventual grease.
After that it was piece of cake. Started at the top and just rolled down the protector in one smooth move. Had 1 bubble, which I simply pushed to the edge of protector until it was gone.
I reccomend you do all of this in a dust-free environment. Bathroom is a good place, for example. Let the dust settle for like 20 minutes before going in. Avoid rooms which have carpets and such stuff.

I used mine for the first month+ without the screen protector and sustained no scratches. I have one on now simply because one day I was putting stuff away, saw the screen protector, put it to my HD and it went on perfectly without trying, so I decided to keep it on.

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How.....unnoticeable?
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GoldCoin,
Have you tried buying on from a phone shop and asking them to install?
I installed mine as soon as I removed the "do not sit down with the HD in your pocket warning" Best way to ensure that the screen is clean. Took a couple of attemps to get it started but a little effort and I got it. Left with a small bubble round the ear piece and one top right, but that looks like a slight defect in the protector as the alignment looks almost perfect.
When installing, I peeled back a portion of the protector and aligned it best I could - incidentally, I placed the HD back in the foam that it came in to hold it firm. Without peeling any more off I try to gauge the alignment. If I think is good to go, I slowly peel the backing whilst rubbing my finger back and forth across the area just stuck down.
Here's another suggestion. PSP Screen Protector installation
Good Luck,

Yes, it's a must!
I use a screenprotector and it has lot's of scratches on it, which otherwise would be on the screen itself

Absolutely!
I Use clear-coat and are very satisfied (had it on my diamond as well and have it on my psp)
Once you get a mark on the display u will regret going without.

Thank you all for sharing your opinions. already ordered a Brando protector + 3 extra just in case i will mess things up again.
Following Rozenthal advice i think i'll apply it in the bathroom this time and not in my dusty workroom.

Bubbles are not problem. After installing screen protector just take you credit card. You can remove all bubbles with credit card.

Just adding my two pennies worth. I haven't ever used a screen protector on any of my previous phones. However Touch HD is a little bit special (as we know) so I invested. The one that came with was utter....well it was naff. I bought an invisible shield but some areas didn't dry and adhese correctly....so I opted for Exim...now this was awesome....a few attempts later and I have it installed with no bubbles at all using a credit card to apply.
(Top Tip: use selotape to remove any unwanted dirt from the screen before installing....the static tends to draw dust to it straight out of the packet....helped me anyway!)

GoldCoin said:
Thank you all for sharing your opinions. already ordered a Brando protector + 3 extra just in case i will mess things up again.
Following Rozenthal advice i think i'll apply it in the bathroom this time and not in my dusty workroom.
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For what it's worth, it wouldn't hurt to use a can of dust remover or compressed air to spray the area before applying. Worked for me. Just a thought.

Does the normal screen protector that comes in the box makes the screen feels like bending when u press on it ? in the center specifically ? and makes you need to press harder when u tap ?

Invisible shield on mine and wouldn't be without a screen protector on any of my devices with my way of using them and pocketing them they tend to get scratched but loving the invisible shield. Should be installed at the factory imo

Jezwick said:
... I find they make the screen less responsive....
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I've always used one, XDA mini, Kaiser and now the THD.
In all cases I've found the sensitivity is affected but to varying degrees.
In each case I've used tweaking tools to change the sensitivity back to acceptable levels.

But im only concerned to know. Does makes the screen feels like bending when u press on it ? I already know that all resistive screens do what i am talking about but does it increase when using a protector ?

Xeon said:
But im only concerned to know. Does makes the screen feels like bending when u press on it ? I already know that all resistive screens do what i am talking about but does it increase when using a protector ?
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I haven't experienced this with the Exim protector I am using. In fact...it's as though there is nothing there....even when swiping!