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After finally getting a booster antinna that works, my battery no longer is recognized in my PPCpe! All I did was take it off it's powered cradel and bam! It shuts off completely. I try to hard resit it.... nothing. I plug it back in to power and it powers up like from a hard resit.
It acts like it's charging the battery than says it's fully charged after about 30 seconds than 30 seconds later acts like it is charging agian... I tested the battery with a multi-tester and it checks out as fully charged. Just won't stay on without direct power. I've tried to let it charge to see if that was the problem but obviously not.
Anyone run in to this problem yet? Any suggestions?
(And no, the antenna wasn't installed yet... Thank God)
MrDollyMaker
If it really is a battery problem, and this does dound like it, try obtaining a broken XDA (e.g. one with a broken screen), and swap the back-sides.
Just out of curiousity: how old was it?
Spear Battery
I got some spear original batteries, if you want it jest e mail me.
Regards,
Gibbo.
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Just finished talking to T-Mobile. They're going to swap it out for me and tier 3 thinks it's hardware not battery. It's also resitting now periodically and doing other strange things :shock:
I'm wondering if it got a power surge or something... I tested the battery under load with a multitester and it has plenty of charge to it. (sigh)
Now.... to downgrade the RSU somehow in 3 days! This will be a trip. I wonder if I can use the old T-Mobile upgrade patch thing.... :twisted:
MrDollyMaker.
good luck dollymaker, tell me how ur adventure goes...I was trying to downgrade my RS 4 a long time, and ever since 6.24.01 I really had no need any more, its the best working stack ive ever had...any way its always good to know i can go down, if i run into somthing (since TMO will never release their 2003 upgrade !!!! :lol: )
XDA Battery Problem
I too have the same problem. My O2 XDA has the same symptoms as yours. It lasts for a few seconds and then nothing. It also resets itself when on charge sometimes. I thought that it could be the battery.
How can i fix this problem assuming that is hardware related?
3.17.03 ENG
radio version 4.21.00
protocol version 32S54
MrDollyMaker said:
Just finished talking to T-Mobile. They're going to swap it out for me and tier 3 thinks it's hardware not battery. It's also resitting now periodically and doing other strange things :shock:
I'm wondering if it got a power surge or something... I tested the battery under load with a multitester and it has plenty of charge to it. (sigh)
Now.... to downgrade the RSU somehow in 3 days! This will be a trip. I wonder if I can use the old T-Mobile upgrade patch thing.... :twisted:
MrDollyMaker.
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I dont think they actually check your rsu or rom versions. They just make sure the screen isn't cracked, then toss them on a pile. I've had to send a couple units back that were upgraded, and never had a comment from T-Mobile. (I did revert both back to the 2002 rom, left the updated RSU though) :wink:
Just place the device in a microwave oven for about ten seconds. It won't power up and there will be no way to verify the ROM or RSU version. :shock:
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markjames1981 said:
I too have the same problem. My O2 XDA has the same symptoms as yours. It lasts for a few seconds and then nothing. It also resets itself when on charge sometimes. I thought that it could be the battery.
How can i fix this problem assuming that is hardware related?
3.17.03 ENG
radio version 4.21.00
protocol version 32S54
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I've tried everything I could think of.... Even took the battery out and tested it. It's not the battery or it's circut board. I'm positive it isn't the software due to I'm running 4.01.00 ENG and Radio is also higher.... I"m thinking it took some sort of power surge while plugged in to the charger and it didn't get filtered out.
From now on once the new one gets here, the Charger will be plugged in to a power surge bar. It's definatly some sort of hardware issue. Tier 2 and 3 at T-Mobile stated that it is after the talked about it while I was on hold. :roll:
Now to patiently wait for the new phone. A pitty... I miss having my mp3 player in my car! :twisted:
As for how to fix it. I believe it's something in the main board related to the battery circuts and testing the battery for it's charge level. It keeps going back and forth between the battery having a charge and no battery.
MrDollyMaker
MrDollyMaker - how did the down grade to the standard RSU go? I haven't seen any posts on it.
Thanks!
Scrappy said:
MrDollyMaker - how did the down grade to the standard RSU go? I haven't seen any posts on it.
Thanks!
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Unfortunatly, it didn't..... now it doesn't recognize the radio stack at all and doesn't recognize the sim card. I pray the sim card is not damaged. :shock:
MrDollyMaker (the one with the paperweight phone)
New One Received!
T-Mobile's Replacement came today! It's brand new, granted only has the 3.14 ROM in it :roll:
But the radio stack is wow and the reception! Can't wait to see what it is to the new 4.01 ROM! :twisted:
hey everyone,
i have this really weird problem,
when i plug in my charger, the right led turns orange to indicate the uni is charging.
the problem is, when the charging is over and the battery reaches a 100%, the uni just gets stuck!
if it was on standby mode while the led turned green, the phone is dead.
cant turn it on, cant call it, cant do nothing, the green light doesnt even turn off when i unplug it!
However, if the device was on while the charging was over, it is still fully operatable, but the green light won't turn off also, no matter what i do. even the iLauncher indicator and the normal battery indicator shows its still charging.
at first i thought it was the "hide battery icon" hack i installed, but i uninstalled and got the icon back, it and the problem is still there.
the only solution is to soft reset. but this is very uncomfortable - i cant reset my phone every evening
BTW, im using brand new battery, just a few days old, but i don't think this happend to me all the time with it. do you think it might be the problem?
what's wrong with my uni??
Please help!
i have an spv m5000, with an i-mate jasjar rom (i find it more comfortable)
Rom: 1.90.96 WWE
Radio: 1.13.00
ExtROM: 1.95.95 WWE (but i cooked it and removed + added some programs)
Same problem here. Please help! I've tried two new batteries, same story.
shlomki said:
the only solution is to soft reset. but this is very uncomfortable - i cant reset my phone every evening
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Actually you already answered your problem, it is probably caused by one of your apps since a soft reset cures it. I suggest do a Backup and try a hard reset and see if it still persist. If the problem went away, then it confirms that it is caused by one of your apps, otherwise it could be the battery or a hardware problem.
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I suggest do a Backup and try a hard reset and see if it still persist. If the problem went away, then it confirms that it is caused by one of your apps, otherwise it could be the battery or a hardware problem.
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I just upgraded to the latest orange rom yesterday and the problem was still there.
but i only checked that AFTER i installed all the apps again. stupid me.
so i hard resetted again and im charging now. results should be in about 1 hour.
but yesterday when i checked, i found out something very interesting:
when i switched back to the old original battery, the problem was GONE, and the uni was working perfectly.
so this suggests this is a battery problem.
i looked at the batteries side by side and found out there are a few minor differences:
1. the original was made in taiwan, while the new one from ebay was from china.
2. they had a different product number underneath the barcode.
3. the new one was a little lighter than the original.
(made me think: might it be a fake?)
besides that, they had the same voltage, same 1620mah, and both was packed by dynapack, supposedly.
after going back to ebay, i found out there is another battery for sale, a little more expansive than the one i bought, but this one WAS made in taiwan,
but still had a different product number. the other ones were just like the on i bought. made in china, and the same product number as my new one.
so nekdo123, can you please check your batteries too, and see where did they come from?
i'll post some pics later on to show you the batteries.
Original one was made in Taiwan. Second one was made in China and third one in Hong Kong.
I'll try original one again (I've stored it) and will report in one or two hours (just to charge it).
I've bought a new one when original one started to shut down my PDA at 45% of battery power.
I've also tried many ROM's (original ones, hacked ones, radio 1.09 and 1.13,...), and problem stays.
hmm, interesting.
well, no surprises: my charging is complete and the problem still stays with the new battery.
funny though, i bought a new battery because of the same problem: my original one started to crash my pda at 59%.
i added a picture to show you the product numbers. the above battery is the original one, the one in the pda is the new one from ebay.
you can even see the font on the battery is a little different.
is the product number on your battery from china the same as mine? how about the one from taiwan?
Yes, they are! Hong kong's has tottally different Model No. (CS-EXECSL).
Did you try putting original one back in and to see, what happens with it at full charge?
yep, as i said:
but yesterday when i checked, i found out something very interesting:
when i switched back to the old original battery, the problem was GONE, and the uni was working perfectly.
so this suggests this is a battery problem.
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i fully charged it untill the green light came on and the device wasn't stuck. it was still working perfectly, and the green led turned off after disconnectig the charger, and i was able to continue to work as usual.
Ups, I should remember, that you've alredy wrote that.
Well, it seems that it's battery problem. The BIG question now is, what battery to buy? I've bought two different ones and both are not working.
I've looked at eBay and found DYNA TAIWAN made batteries. But, they have same PN as this China ones, without "M" on end of it. So, I don't dare to buy third one, without knowin that it'll work!
What will you do?
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What will you do?
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I would rather walk to the stores than ordering from the Net...
I presume it may be fake batteries and that's why u can got it cheap....sorry if i'm wrong..
The only problem is the price. It's 5 times higher than over net.
yep, it the same problem here in israel.
the one thats made in tawian costs about 23$ at ebay (if i remember correctly), and it costs about 105$ in stores (in israel).
i think im gonna wait till i finish all my expanses on the universal (2gb sd card, silicone case, etc...) and after a couple of monthes when i have more spare money i'll just buy the one from taiwan.
and by the way, i wasn't referring to the product number on the right, the one without the "M" in the end.
i was talking about the one underneath the barcode, the one that starts with "DY..."
by the way, notice the one from taiwan:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Battery-XDA-Exe...ryZ75446QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem#ebayphotohosting
they state its an "Original Dynapack Battery", while the others don't mention anything about it.
Now I've bought this one:
http://cgi.ebay.com/PolarCell-Li-Po...6822659QQihZ012QQcategoryZ38918QQcmdZViewItem
Will tell you when I get it, how's with it.
brave of you, buying a third one so soon
i wasn't able to see it's picture in the details, though.
where was it made? and what about the p/n?
and btw, what brand of universal do you have? is it orange spv-m5000 aswell?
looking forward to hearing the results.
I still hope that it's a battery fault. After third one I don't know what else I can do.
Mine is O2 XDA EXEC. I don't know, why you're asking about serial numbers, but here they are:
Taiwan't: DY8A85AD000980, China's: DY8A658N002140. Maybe you'll figure out something from these numbers?
Actually I bought an used PDA. the seller gave me one of new batteries I have. I've bought one, because his "new" didn't work (had simptoms like your's). So, I've bought another one, thinking, it's a battery problem, because with original one, PDA work like it should.
Will see, how works fourth one
Hello shlomki!
I've received battery today and I've tested it. It works like a charm (and stone rolled away from my heart - imagine, that there is a problem with PDA not with battery).
So, I recommend you this seller.
The seller of my second battery(Hong Kong's one) also sent me a new battery. I'll receive it next week. Will tell you if there is any difference with that one (if not else, I'll have it for backup - of course, if it'll work).
hey!
thats great to hear!!!
i feel that stone also, now that i can get a battery that works for sure!
how did you get your hong kong seller to send you a new battery?!
how did you convince him? did you have to send the old one back to him??
i see that the new battery you ordered is 1800mah, how does that work for you with charging it to the fullest? does it work like any other 1620mah battery??
How did I convince Hong Kong's seller? I didn't give him an opinion on eBay. I wanted to try battery before I do that. And after it didn't work, I just wrote him an email, that I have a battery problem. The next day he sent me an email, that he sent me a new battery and asked how can we arrange sending "old" one back to him on his costs!
I wrote him, that costs are so low, that there is really no problem about that. So, I'll wait till I receive a new one and then I'll send him old one back.
I don't know why, but I have a feeling that it also won't work (same serie, same error - I guess it's a chip error in battery). Will see when I receive it.
About new battery. Yes, it's like normal 1620mAh (maybe charging takes minute more or less - don't know, didn't time it). But, it's stronger and I think it should las that few % more time.
Yust for info. I've got a replacement battery today. Same problem! So I guess, there are different hardware revisions of Universals and not all batteries will work in all revisions.
Luckily Polar Cell's one works like a charm!
Twice now I've put my device on to charge overnight, as I have for the last 8 months that I've had it, and it has not been responding when I come to get it in the morning.
I plug it in, device closed, around midnight then come to get it the next day and when I open it the screen is black, pressing power does nothing and the only thing I can do is reset. This has been happening since I did a hard reset 2-3 days ago. I have it set so that it doesn't turn off when on external power, and so it turns off after 2 minutes when on battery power.
Can anyone think what's happening to it?
Given the number of threads I've made recently you can probably guess I'm starting to regret getting this phone.
Could be freezing due to unstable ROM, could be battery... which ROM are you on?
The one which it came with out of the box from O2 in July 2006. Don't really know anything about ROMs, if there's more info you need me to retrieve I'll be happy to - just let me know how.
Anjow said:
The one which it came with out of the box from O2 in July 2006. Don't really know anything about ROMs, if there's more info you need me to retrieve I'll be happy to - just let me know how.
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What programs do you have installed? Specifically, which ones are used as today plugins?
It's interesting it only started happening after hard reset... sometimes a hard reset will go 'wrong' and install funny and the best thing to do is another hard reset. Might be worth considering.
Non-standard today plugins that I use are SPB Pocketplus, SPB Backup and SPB Time.
I have just taken it off charge now and pressed power and it has just turned the backlight on full but there's nothing on the screen. The main difference between now and before the hard reset is I'm not using the SPB Time today plugin. I'm going to try disabling that.
This is quite a worry for me as I'm meant to be using it to wake me up in the mornings and I don't have another method at the moment...
It happens to me too...
my problem is related to the battery (I have 2 batteries and it happens only with one)....
soft reset first thing in the morning ;-)
It seems disabling the SPB Time today plugin did nothing.
Also, yesterday I had it plugged in for around half an hour but nothing happened. It seems it only crashes when it has been plugged in overnight.
did you try with another battery?
to me it happens only when it stay connected to the charger after it reached 100%
I don't have another battery to try with.
Another member of the 'normally I have to softreset in the morning' brigade... but then I have an alarm clock
Now this is totally unfounded and just a complete and utter guess, but based on logical thought processes of some kind anyhow... try if ya like.
1. Place in bootloader overnight hoping to discharge the battery by morning.
2. Soft reset and fully recharge BY WALL CHARGER.
3. Once fully charged, hard reset.
Reasoning:
1. Apparent way to recalibrate battery to full charge
2. Possible findings that USB charge will never charge to full capacity
3. Just in case there is some funky little OS setting that screwed up on your last hard reset.
Logical to me, but then I'm an 1/8th Irish... Hmmmm Let us know if ya do and hope it helps.
Unfortunately I don't think I'm going to be able to try that for another 3 weeks - I'm home from university and I left my wall charger there (I never use it)
i've had the exact same problem - its a faulty battery, trust me.
you're welcome to follow my thread on the subject:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=285147
after ordering the right battery from ebay - the problem was solved.
I'm a little confused by your topic, this is what I've got from it - tell me if it's right:
You had the original battery - that's the top one in this picture that you attached. That started crashing at 59%.
You then got the bottom one in that picture from ebay and that battery had the same problem as mine is having.
You switched back to your old one, which solved the problem.
...What is it you're suggesting I do, get a battery from ebay? I am confused because it seems it was the battery from ebay that caused problems for you.
nekdo123 posted in my thread that he bought a different battery from ebay, which worked great.
i can now confirm that, because i recently bought the same battery as he did - and it really does work flawlessly.
it is a "PolarCell Akku 1800mah battery". the only problem in buying it is that it's on a german ebay version, so it is hard to understand the terms and conditions, because i don't speak german...
i managed to understand it by translating it with an automated translating site, which helped.
the link is on the thread... good luck!
I bought one from Hong Kong and it worked fine too
patrickl said:
I bought one from Hong Kong and it worked fine too
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what matters seems to be where the battery was made, apparently.
and not where you bought it from.
shlomki said:
what matters seems to be where the battery was made, apparently.
and not where you bought it from.
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Well, I doubt anything coming from HongKong was made anywhere else than China.
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Well, I doubt anything coming from HongKong was made anywhere else than China.
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You'll probably find that the other battery was made in China too... most things these days are...
It's probably not what country made it, but how it was manufactured.
Today I received a package from the ebayer I ordered it from. It contained a receipt but no battery. Why would they send a receipt over without a battery?
I have a IMate JasJam phone whose battery discharges very rapidly (20 min talk time). I have purchased a new battery as well but that does not seem to solve the problem.
What I wanted to ask the community are the following questions:
a. Can this be due to the radio version that I have? 1.43.00.00 - I have been using this radio for a 6 months now.
b. Can this be due to the charging unit in the phone being damaged? If so, is this replaceable?
c. I also read some threads suggesting buying like 3000 mAmph battery...rather than the standard 1500 mA. Is this really required?
d. Are there any other options to debug this problem?
Appreciate your responses...please help...
Does your phone also shut off for no apparent reason?
I had the same issue with the phone shutting off randomly as well. I took the phone apart and found the battery post was broke off the main board. I think the contacts being lose was also draining the battery or it could have been other things wrong as well. Bought a new phone and all was right again. I get 4 days standby with WM6 now.
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Does your phone also shut off for no apparent reason?
I had the same issue with the phone shutting off randomly as well. I took the phone apart and found the battery post was broke off the main board. I think the contacts being lose was also draining the battery or it could have been other things wrong as well. Bought a new phone and all was right again. I get 4 days standby with WM6 now.
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No it does not shut-off automatically. However, I am tempted to find out if the batery connect (post) you suggest is lose or not. I remember dropping my phone a couple of times at least, maybe that caused it.
Buying a new phone is an option always, but unfortunately, I spent a lot of money when I bought this phone and would not like to junk it just yet...I am hoping someone here has other ideas that I can try out before giving up on this phone...
Anyways, thanks for your suggestions...
maybe its the rom you have installed that is causing the drain or maybe it is the radio ,is it cooked or a stock rom. If its cooked try flashing a stock rom and see if the battery issue is fixed
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maybe its the rom you have installed that is causing the drain or maybe it is the radio ,is it cooked or a stock rom. If its cooked try flashing a stock rom and see if the battery issue is fixed
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It's a Black Satin ROM that I flashed nearly a year ago...I have upgraded the Radio to 1.54.30.10. I was thinking of downloading Schap's WM6 ROM and updating it to that...do you suggest these being good ROM's or is there any other one that you suggest?
Thanks for your suggestion...
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It's a Black Satin ROM that I flashed nearly a year ago...I have upgraded the Radio to 1.54.30.10. I was thinking of downloading Schap's WM6 ROM and updating it to that...do you suggest these being good ROM's or is there any other one that you suggest?
Thanks for your suggestion...
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I have a feeling it could be that post if it all of a sudden started. I went radio/rom jumping for several weeks (and it isn't a bad idea to either reload a fresh rom or go back stock and check out your usage) and nothing helped. But it is a great way to narrow it down to device or software.
What to be prepared for though, if you do dig in your phone (assuming you have no warranty and are prepared to do do it), the case was the reason my post hadn't completely broke off. Once the case wasn't holding it on anymore it broke off completely. Make sure you have a backup phone to go to if you can't go without your phone. I even got cute with it and tried to solder the post back on. It lasted about 3 hours before it broke off again. lol
Has bought the device second-hand from a comp firm with a guarantee for 1 month. After 1 month of no problems working the gadget began to turn off by itself at first on 27 % of the battery (original) .
Then 32, etc .
I has thought, that problem is in old battery. Has bought new CS-execsl with 1750mAh, but the device continued to switching off without any system/sequence .
It practically is not switching off when it on the charge! The hard reset is tried. Has already passed 5 months, the firm does not respond. At a full charge on both bateries it is switched off in 5 minutes of work/ full loading of the processor.
How it is possible to solve a problem? The service centre puts the overestimated sum.
Where can I found the newest ROM /shoul this help?
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Has bought the device second-hand from a comp firm with a guarantee for 1 month. After 1 month of no problems working the gadget began to turn off by itself at first on 27 % of the battery (original) .
Then 32, etc .
I has thought, that problem is in old battery. Has bought new CS-execsl with 1750mAh, but the device continued to switching off without any system/sequence .
It practically is not switching off when it on the charge! The hard reset is tried. Has already passed 5 months, the firm does not respond. At a full charge on both bateries it is switched off in 5 minutes of work/ full loading of the processor.
How it is possible to solve a problem? The service centre puts the overestimated sum.
Where can I found the newest ROM /shoul this help?
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Welcome
Yes, perhaps upgrading the ROM could help
Please READ the Wiki, you´ll find several ROM´s and a way to upgrade
I personally would recommend any of Tomal ROM¨s
Good luck
I just tried to change ROM on 100%battery. Installed a little bit soft (resco explorer, core player, opera). The same problem. Switcging off after the same time of watching video on both batteries.
Can it be the hardware problem?
Yes!
It's a battery problem...
I had the same problem... at 27 -33%
probabily some unofficial charge set (like the car adapter) could damage your battery.
Don't buy another original battery, use ebay. The original it's like 60€, but on ebay is like 40€...
I have an original battery and from CS but the same problem happens.Do you know some other tricks (like paper trick)?
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=UniversalBatteryIssue
Check this out Mine turns off too but at 20%, but soon I'll order a 3200 extended and maybe the problem will disappear .
Mine too, it turns off at 20%, but well I have the original battery since 2005 so I can´t ask for more, I just bought a new one from Dukenukem and aparently it´s original
no result
I tried the "peice of tape on the second pin" but without any result.
Tried to push the battery (if it is the connection problem) but it is conecting there well.
Installed the newest ROM with WM6.1 by Luka16thebig, no result.
When device turns self off it make a short sound like "little fly hits a window".
Want to buy a new Asus P750.