We all know that the shift project is a bit delayed
Could one of you who have the beta/development ROM please release it, to the community so that those of us who want to cook something can try and see if we can get something out of it. (maby a briked device )
You can use the rom from your device, it will be a good base for a rom. Beta rom only add gps drivers but remove stability from the same base.
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... but remove stability from the same base.
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sorry thaihugo... but what do you want to say exactly with this... what's these problems? ...and gps drivers provided with beta rom work with both windows mobile and vista? because there are many gps navigation software for tablet pc that works with vista... so we can delete SD card driver problem for the moment... (and i/we can finally use a PC navigator, for windows vista.. )
GPS drivers are also a top priority for me, and that’s one of the main reasons why I would like it!!
And I also hope the shift project have made some small progress with other things that might be of use.
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sorry thaihugo... but what do you want to say exactly with this... what's these problems? ...and gps drivers provided with beta rom work with both windows mobile and vista? because there are many gps navigation software for tablet pc that works with vista... so we can delete SD card driver problem for the moment... (and i/we can finally use a PC navigator, for windows vista.. )
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Let's be clear:
HTC release a rom with gps drivers during product development. I think this is the beta ROM. It has many other problem but it has GPS
HTC release final ROM without GPS because it think GPS is not to be added.
Somebody must take the final rom, and add gps drivers from beta rom or from another rom in it.
Nobody actually is doing this. Cmonex will do this, but it seems to take some time.
If you want, you can do it yourself using your own Rom dumped from your shift, and add some gps drivers files.
If somebody want's to do this, I'll be happy to provide any files or reg regarding gps from the rom. Just give me precise name and key.
thaihugo said:
If you want, you can do it yourself......
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I believe the whole point of us donating enough money to purchase the 2 units was so that we wouldn't have to do it ourselves.
let us cook
maybe she can't release the beta rom because she need the agreement of htc.
plus htc plan to provide a gps rom update, I suppose they don't want this project on internet.
finaly mains goal of this project could be the sd card, bluetooth wvga
anyway she made the olio sspl userfriendly and we can cook the final snapvue rom. this is already a great achievement !!!
nicolas.maigne said:
maybe she can't release the beta rom because she need the agreement of htc.
plus htc plan to provide a gps rom update, I suppose they don't want this project on internet.
finaly mains goal of this project could be the sd card, bluetooth wvga
anyway she made the olio sspl userfriendly and we can cook the final snapvue rom. this is already a great achievement !!!
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I agree with the main goals above, but that is just me being selfish (I have no use for GPS - though I will no doubt "have" one if it is available - much to my wife's annoyance). I just really really want voice capability. I can not even record a voice note as the mic does not seem to work. Oh well, I do like everything else about the machine. I suppose I can't have my cake and eat it too.
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I believe the whole point of us donating enough money to purchase the 2 units was so that we wouldn't have to do it ourselves.
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Yes I know, but I was starting to think about a plan B in case thinks gets too slow.
thaihugo said:
Yes I know, but I was starting to think about a plan B in case thinks gets too slow.
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and.... what would it be ???
do you honestly believe that htc is trying to stop cmonex from releasing a rom version? shouldn't they tried this when the spl was released? I don't think htc is giving some real sh.t about what's being done down here.
shoudn't microsoft contact the god damned crackers that make cracked versions of windows vista and contribute to millions of $$ lost. Well most probably they don't. By the present time they should have found out that it's useless.
the rom development is simply delayed. For what reason we don't know. But it isn't the alien invaders, the ninja worriors send by htc to kill cmonex or some major plot in the grand scheme of things. It's just delayed. Maybe they want to add more than only gps activation.
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shoudn't microsoft contact the god damned crackers that make cracked versions of windows vista and contribute to millions of $$ lost. Well most probably they don't. By the present time they should have found out that it's useless.
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they did and went on record to all saying we'd rather you steel/hack a windows O/S then use linux or mac
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and who was the guy saying that... microsoft's ceo, billy boy gates? the one who said 512kilobites of ram shoud be enough..
that's funny though.. billy and steve appeared on a tv show telling the world that they just started to really be friends.
anyway .... we'd rather you steel/hack a htc phone then use those goddamned simbian devices )
Good diversion from the wait, whatz plan B?
I'm loving this, at least some discussion on the ROM release is better than weeks of no news. Still anxious to know about the plan B though. In case nothing really comes up.
feyisetan said:
I'm loving this, at least some discussion on the ROM release is better than weeks of no news. Still anxious to know about the plan B though. In case nothing really comes up.
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I think that Plan B is to sell the crippled shift, ... anyway... I'm thinking about this... it isn't possible to use drivers from another HTC smartphone that use the same CPU, and that use a clean copy of Windows mobile with all hardware unlocked, and make a beta test cooked rom with those drivers for testing purpose..
we just need to know the progress and whats stopping those roms, is it money or is it time or what? coz we are very anxious about the whole thing
what about 6.1??
beta rom is buggy and slow , a good start could be winmo 6.1 in order to mount the 3d driver of the qualcom msn 7200. the actual 5.2.1620 kernel is too slow on the shift. snapvue would be more pleasent to use with the last kernel.
it would be great to make the gps drivers not mandatory, it is a great handicap for people not using it. qualcomm gps ship drain a lot of battery enven if they are not used!!
If you want, you can do it yourself using your own Rom dumped from your shift, and add some gps drivers files.
If somebody want's to do this, I'll be happy to provide any files or reg regarding gps from the rom. Just give me precise name and key.
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hem... about the files and reg of gps from the rom... I'm interested, I want to do some "experiments" on my shift...
Give me the name of the files and registry export you want, and I'll zip them here.
How should we know the keys and files we need if we don't know exactly what the rom contains
That is exactly why I would like to look at the rom so i can find out what improvements that are needed to get it up and running, or intergate it to a new rom
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Now that Crossbow is on other devices, any chance someone can mod it for Artemis?? Please.
I second that
I third that! Please o Please great geniuses!
Though i am not an expert, i really doubt that this is possible?! It was also not possible to get WM5 on WM2003 Devices... but i will be glad to be proven wrong
Samson711 said:
Though i am not an expert, i really doubt that this is possible?! It was also not possible to get WM5 on WM2003 Devices... but i will be glad to be proven wrong
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Technically it would be possible.
But we all depend on the manufacturers. If they don't supply us with upgrades, there's no way we can upgrade. So asking for it is of no use.
Perjan said:
Could a moderator close this thread?
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WHY?
Let there be crossbow talk for Artemis.
Who made you boss
(Rotterdam? Waar ligt dat dan?)
Hehe 1-0
gianna68 said:
WHY?
Let there be crossbow talk for Artemis.
Who made you boss
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...For other HTC Devices Crossbow is now "online". I think our Artemis is a good Device and a base for the new Crossbow.
...Still waiting.
OpenGL32 said:
...For other HTC Devices Crossbow is now "online". I think our Artemis is a good Device and a base for the new Crossbow.
...Still waiting.
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You could look to the magician forum and the number of threads there sugesting the release or possible release of the WM 5 update for the Magician.
But it never came.
If it comes it wil. There's no point to ask for is if it comes out it wil be on this site and forum. Its just foolish jiberish to keep asking for it. Its the same as all the people asking for an hack for the Hero devivce to enable wifi. But its simply not possible. But there are already 20 threads suggesting it....
Perjan said:
Technically it would be possible.
But we all depend on the manufacturers. If they don't supply us with upgrades, there's no way we can upgrade. So asking for it is of no use.
Could a moderator close this thread?
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yea! who are u to decide weather this thread is to be closed or not!!!
If u are not open enough to discussions, then what is the meaning of u hanging around in this forum!
Today, my cousin had just installed the WM6.0 in his O2 Xda MiniS, and when i saw it, i was thrilled! its super fast! it looks real cool, and the contacts, dialer and inbox are wonderful!
only thing is it requires Activesync 4.50 beta to sync.
The WM6.0 is testing roms are out for the Universal and the Mini S, and soon i hope someone comes up for the Artemis too!
Yeah, if ya don't ask, ya don't get!! Somebody might be sat at home with the rom we want, thinking no one else is bothered, so they keep it to themselves. I know there is several differences between Artemis & Phophet, but might it be possible to flash with 1 of there Roms?? Just asking!!?? No need to bite my head off, Manners cost nothing.
WHEN USERS HAVE MDA COMPACT THEY NEEDS WM2005
WHEN THEY HAVE MDA C3 THEY NEEDS CROSSBOW
IT IS FUNNY
and i need im my pda windows vista
or xp will be good
pleas help
as far as i know this device only accepts signed code in roms....so unless some one cracks the boot loader you will never be able to flash a custom rom...
in another hand .....i heard that there is a a test crossbow rom for your device,being tested by internal testers.....but this roms rarely see the light of the day.... but you never know.
faria said:
as far as i know this device only accepts signed code in roms....so unless some one cracks the boot loader you will never be able to flash a custom rom...
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We are close to that in Artemis... they should be able soon
The HTC Wizard + HTC Universal (which are designed as WM5 devices) have WM6 ROMs so.. there's a really BIG chance that the HTC Artemis will get the WM6 update too..
WM6 a.k.a. Crossbow is just a ROM that has some updates + new theme..
Why is it called WM6 then? Cuz people are bored and they're really waiting for some NEW sh*t! It just counts as a lil entertainment for us while we're waiting.
“Crossbow” (Q4 ‘06)
- Great mobile messaging
- Advanced Business and Enterprise propositions
- Strengthened phone experience
- Faster, easier application development and distribution
- Q1/Q2 ‘07 Marketing Launch
“Photon” (Q4 ‘07)
- New, Flexible Shell
- Modular Containers
- “Yamazaki” CE kernel
- Q1/Q2 ’08 Marketing Launch
Conclusion WM6 = WM5 + Plus!
will \wm6 crossbow (wwe) for htc wizard v5.2.660 work?
I was wondering, once there is ROM available for P3300 based on Crossbow "WM6", for this to be lfashed and updated to newer WM will I also need to CID unlock the phone first, as I am unable to flash other ROMs as of now.
Frankly speeking, ~$40 is steep price for unclocking, around $20 would be OK (please consider this ... to unlockers)
EazyVG said:
I was wondering, once there is ROM available for P3300 based on Crossbow "WM6", for this to be lfashed and updated to newer WM will I also need to CID unlock the phone first, as I am unable to flash other ROMs as of now.
Frankly speeking, ~$40 is steep price for unclocking, around $20 would be OK (please consider this ... to unlockers)
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If a update is released by your manufacturer you would not need to unlock but if for instance you have a t-mobile phone and dopod comes with wm6, and you want to use that rom you would have to cid unlock.
Had this reply from Dopod Australia's support yesterday to me enquiry "Hi, I was wondering if there were any plans to release Windows Mobile 6 for the p800w in the near future?":
Hi,
It might be possible. We are waiting for Microsoft to inform us about this.
We will keep you posted.
Thanks.
Kind regards,
[name removed]
Customer Service Engineer
Dopod International (Australia New Zealand) Pty Ltd
EazyVG said:
...Frankly speeking, ~$40 is steep price for unclocking, around $20 would be OK...
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If and when you do a search on Google, you will most likely find website that will unlock your machine for about $7
Not saying that this will work on yours, but if you really want to be on the safe(save) side, just pay the $40 and you'll be 100% sure that it works.
Well people. We've released AP4.0 and everyone is trying it out.
What we want to try next is Android.
Keep your eyes open. We're going to start putting things together for this project soon.
good job seeing my post 15015 years ago people!
=p
ltxda just likes to steal my thunder =p
ltxda said:
Well people. We've released AP4.0 and everyone is trying it out.
What we want to try next is Android.
Keep your eyes open. We're going to start putting things together for this project soon.
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What about the vanilla AP4 that does not require repartitioning?
eaglesteve said:
What about the vanilla AP4 that does not require repartitioning?
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OFF TOPIC ALERT....OFF TOPIC ALERT!!!!
It should not require the new SPL. Final determination will be posted upon release of course.
boinger66 said:
good job seeing my post 15015 years ago people!
=p
ltxda just likes to steal my thunder =p
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LOL!
Hey I don't even think I ready your post...but glad you're part of the team, so don't complain!
Anyhow, we have some resources and not just an idea.
How do u think do this?
Will i need to flash my device new?
When it is so, for me -1
When i can have AP4 and Android TOGETER on one device +1
crazy cat said:
How do u think do this?
Will i need to flash my device new?
When it is so, for me -1
When i can have AP4 and Android TOGETER on one device +1
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Should be able to run both on your device but not at the same time.
Multi-boot or liveCD ISO concept desired
Guys,
It would be great to have both PK 4.0 and Andriod working at the same time in either a multi-boot scenario, or in a vm / overlay based solution. If we could launch the Andriod solution from miniSD or ext rom, that would be awesome. Especially for the 1.0 versions. Later 2.0 or stronger could completely replace a PK based ROM, if we had all of the tools and applications ported over to support andriod as a daily user / solution.
I know that these thoughts may seem a bit different that what was mentioned in the past, but I think that they would allow for better acceptance and utility until the Andriod solution picks up more steam and acceptance amonst the community...
There are also some WM based applications that I wouldn't want to loose or to have to port over at this time.
Hope this helps,
Bob
ltxda said:
Well people. We've released AP4.0 and everyone is trying it out.
What we want to try next is Android.
Keep your eyes open. We're going to start putting things together for this project soon.
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Go A-Team! haha
I had to go and find out just what android was but now I know, I think it is excellent and has oodles of potential
ltxda said:
Should be able to run both on your device but not at the same time.
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This sounds good!
When you can create a "Bootloader - screen" where i can select, wat OS i want use i vote +1!
There atleast is a definate potential for a bootloader piece like the pc has of lilo or grub for the ppc it will all be determined based on what we can create and develop
Hi
I mentioned once before that android could be cool
It would be great
Perfect idea! I you need testers let me know! Two OS versions on a machine AP4 and Android, whats next?
QAN said:
Perfect idea! I you need testers let me know! Two OS versions on a machine AP4 and Android, whats next?
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iphone port
Great idea
What is this? The enterprise.... Go where no man has gone before I I captain ltxda
linux would be a good idea also
scopy60 said:
linux would be a good idea also
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Qtopia is beginning to appear on one or two devices, main problem it appears is secrecy from HTC on some of their hardware from what I understand. But htc are supposed to be involved in android, so it should be a bit easier..
scopy60 said:
linux would be a good idea also
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android is based on linux i believe
bob_beringer said:
Guys,
It would be great to have both PK 4.0 and Andriod working at the same time in either a multi-boot scenario, or in a vm / overlay based solution. If we could launch the Andriod solution from miniSD or ext rom, that would be awesome. Especially for the 1.0 versions. Later 2.0 or stronger could completely replace a PK based ROM, if we had all of the tools and applications ported over to support andriod as a daily user / solution.
I know that these thoughts may seem a bit different that what was mentioned in the past, but I think that they would allow for better acceptance and utility until the Andriod solution picks up more steam and acceptance amonst the community...
There are also some WM based applications that I wouldn't want to loose or to have to port over at this time.
Hope this helps,
Bob
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It will be released so WM is preserved and you will be able to boot to Android then go back to WM. Not sure of all the specifics yet as those will be worked out. Great minds think alike.
Polaris has potential, I know!
This is my first thread so don't go rough on me.
All this is about an idea, about a dream, about the future.
I wish there could be something we could all do to save our little Polaris's lives from the trash bin.
Wouldn't it be nice!?!
I suggest 5 things!
And i would need some hardcore programmers to be working on this..
Yes, for crying out loud, I am calling for Bepe, Olipro, Vivi, Udk, Pawel062, cmonex, misar, faria, tadzio, pof.. There are a lot of you guys. And really as far as I know you know what you are doing!
I am using Bepe's rom at the moment.. (bepe an update maybe?)
SO!!!!
YEA!!!
THE FOUR MAGICAL THINGS WE ALL NEED:
PROPER Graphics support - Coming in june with the Diamond i suppose.
Or if you are smart enough see how it
works in core player 1.2.4 and take it out.
PROPER Eased up system - I mean roms with all tweaks and tricks
+ make them empty, like totally empty!
PROPER List of applications - To show everything that is available for the
TC, Also more settings availability (up until
how big the application icons must be)
PROPER OVERCLOCK - What no one thought about this one?!?
PROPER Launcher - I have got one in mind, I can try to do it in
flash version, yet i'll need you guys to
program it for pocket PCs out there.
MAYBE THIS THREAD IS NEVER TO BE DISCOVERED
YET I BELIEVE THERE ARE LOADS OF OTHERS WHO
WANT TO START THE SAME THREAD!!!
Drivers+Easy System+Overclock= KILLING COOL EXPERIENCE
All the software choice, will help you decide what you really
want from the device.
I've got ideas.
I need help.
Post me a personal message to get my skype and other stuff.
Update: Changed the fonts.. not so big now..
Lot's of big fonts and requests from someone who doesn't appear to understand much about why his some of these requests can't be fulfilled.
Out of interest tcfanboy, how much cash are you willing to gift to people you've mentioned to do all this work for you?
I am not planning to sell this product, so there is no cash in this for me.
I am just saying i can contribute, i wish others could too..
I just like to have my device working, don't you?
don't be a pessimist.
I'm just tying to help.
If you don't like it, you can ignore it.
Big fonts are there to stand out. But yea i guess they are too big.
I know nothing about programming on a device such as a pocket pocket pc.
But i can program in pascal, delfi, and i am currently getting hold of c++..
I am not a lamer if that's what you are saying. I just need guidance.
Will you be of help?
People here are trying there best taking apart other devices and putting their codes into other. How about a new level?
how about writing the codes ourselves.
Just asking you if there is there a tutorial online? The one every beginner has read.
hey tcfanboy, thanks for the poll, u've got a point here but: u see all this work that the ppc wizes are doing is voluntary and asking them for stuff that they already know abt its not the best idea(my opinion). I'm sure they're doing their best to provide all of us with good roms and various improvements but they're not receiving any help from the company that was supposed to do all this work: HTC !
Anyway, HTC announced that they will release some sort of update in this month or next one for the devices with Q7xxx chips that will provide some sort of fix for the current issues but they didn't specify what exactly will the update do. And its not surprising considering they don't even admit they've got a problem with the video acceleration
I'm definitely looking forward to see your list of requests integrated in a rom and I'm sure sooner or later it will happen. Thanks to every1 working on any improvements!
according to an o2 germany insider at ppc-welt.info, there can not be software driver update, since this is software code on core-level, wich cant be solved by flashing a rom
greet, qoka
qoka said:
according to an o2 germany insider at ppc-welt.info, there can not be software driver update, since this is software code on core-level, wich cant be solved by flashing a rom
greet, qoka
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sooooo, it will be a new rom ?
Ohyeah, but is in WM6.1 a Videodriver??? That´s the QUESTION !
We see, when it´s da, lach
starchildx said:
sooooo, it will be a new rom ?
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there will be an update that fixes something that htc is not willing to tell in advance but it optimizes grafik performance
the hardware acceleration cant be activated afterwards, according to the o2 guy
qoka said:
there will be an update that fixes something that htc is not willing to tell in advance but it optimizes grafik performance
the hardware acceleration cant be activated afterwards, according to the o2 guy
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why ?what is the problem that can't be solved ?
tcfanboy said:
Polaris has potential, I know!
This is my first thread so don't go rough on me.
All this is about an idea, about a dream, about the future.
I wish there could be something we could all do to save our little Polaris's lives from the trash bin.
Wouldn't it be nice!?!
I suggest 5 things!
And i would need some hardcore programmers to be working on this..
Yes, for crying out loud, I am calling for Bepe, Olipro, Vivi, Udk, Pawel062, cmonex, misar, faria, tadzio, pof.. There are a lot of you guys. And really as far as I know you know what you are doing!
I am using Bepe's rom at the moment.. (bepe an update maybe?)
SO!!!!
YEA!!!
THE FOUR MAGICAL THINGS WE ALL NEED:
PROPER Graphics support - Coming in june with the Diamond i suppose.
Or if you are smart enough see how it
works in core player 1.2.4 and take it out.
PROPER Eased up system - I mean roms with all tweaks and tricks
+ make them empty, like totally empty!
PROPER List of applications - To show everything that is available for the
TC, Also more settings availability (up until
how big the application icons must be)
PROPER OVERCLOCK - What no one thought about this one?!?
PROPER Launcher - I have got one in mind, I can try to do it in
flash version, yet i'll need you guys to
program it for pocket PCs out there.
MAYBE THIS THREAD IS NEVER TO BE DISCOVERED
YET I BELIEVE THERE ARE LOADS OF OTHERS WHO
WANT TO START THE SAME THREAD!!!
Drivers+Easy System+Overclock= KILLING COOL EXPERIENCE
All the software choice, will help you decide what you really
want from the device.
I've got ideas.
I need help.
Post me a personal message to get my skype and other stuff.
Update: Changed the fonts.. not so big now..
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i might be able to contribue with a ultra lite rom. i know i said i would release a new project rom but i want to mess more with a lite rom so will release a full and lite rom tommorow. if u all dont mind me removing almost everything like camera etc.. i can definatly get something really lite made.
qoka said:
there will be an update that fixes something that htc is not willing to tell in advance but it optimizes grafik performance
the hardware acceleration cant be activated afterwards, according to the o2 guy
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acceleration can be turned on and off at any time. acceleration is nothing more than making dlls that turn on the acceleration and use it. manilla aka touchflo 3D is a example of acceleration in use. if u look at the dependencies of manilla then you will know the dlls needed for acceleration.
Manila runs on a quite different device though
The actual hardware could be disabled in the Polaris-generation through some sort of burning certain areas on the chip (some guy wrote about it in here a couple months ago) to physically destroy certain features. But giving effort to find out if that is the case by disassembling other ROMs is surely not the wrong thing to do! I guess I'll wait for some sort of fix or buy an Xperia if that one happens to arrive first
Pawel062 said:
i might be able to contribue with a ultra lite rom. i know i said i would release a new project rom but i want to mess more with a lite rom so will release a full and lite rom tommorow. if u all dont mind me removing almost everything like camera etc.. i can definatly get something really lite made.
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hey Pawel, if u'll integrate in your rom all the fixes and current improvements that vivi, pdaviet and udK have in their roms, it doesn't matter how lite the rom will be because we can always install on it the applications we want.
Pawel062 said:
acceleration can be turned on and off at any time. acceleration is nothing more than making dlls that turn on the acceleration and use it. manilla aka touchflo 3D is a example of acceleration in use. if u look at the dependencies of manilla then you will know the dlls needed for acceleration.
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I don't know much abt wm platform but working in IT gives me a bit of a tech background and I'm learning fast, please correct me if I'm wrong but I think this video acceleration problem on Polaris is not easily achievable even with the dlls from Diamond because they are built for VGA and TC is using QVGA Right?
atl4ntys said:
they are built for VGA and TC is using QVGA Right?
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This is correct. But then again a driver is a driver and the resolution shouldnt play a role. nVidia drivers work for 1920x1200 as well as they do for some 1024x768 output... It could be different though for fixed resolution devices like our mobile devices are. We'll see, we'll see, or we might switch the hardware manufacturer...
Pawel062 said:
i might be able to contribue with a ultra lite rom. i know i said i would release a new project rom but i want to mess more with a lite rom so will release a full and lite rom tommorow. if u all dont mind me removing almost everything like camera etc.. i can definatly get something really lite made.
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Really? It looks like you're making so much promises both in Polaris Project, with the Glass ROM and now here.
thx
I am glad to get some Seniors here. Thx guys. I saw this post of all the htc programs..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=344544
Well.. you should add the program list of the programs in the original rom.
Downloadable links and light description of features.
Yea, I am a demandive person! Someone must be.
Btw, there is an excellent company which makes software with understandable interface. Well.. I did not necesserely buy their products.. But the name is Vito. So this is the interface which should be used. If interested in them ask me I'll provide a free link. I am from russia. It's legal here. )))
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Really? It looks like you're making so much promises both in Polaris Project, with the Glass ROM and now here.
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u all asked for more than a full rom so i am making it. whats the problem in that. so i missed the deadline by one day. we all do.
This is a bit of an odd question, but please bare with me here.
I'm writing my thesis for the uni about C#... with the recent release of VS2010, I thought it'd be great to focus on this IDE and the new features it offers and put those in the thesis as well. I ALSO had an idea to show that one can write apps for mobile devices using C# (duh, but all's fair in the academic world ); I own a HD2, so being able to whip out the phone and show the app working would be a great way to blow some academic minds (well, not really, but I think it'd be nice).
However... VS2010 doesn't support WMo 6.X, which is a serious bummer. There are some rumours that an SDK will be released, but if and when that will happen remains a mystery.
So this leaves me WMo7, which has already been ported to HD2. However, it seems it's not public just yet. And besides not being public, WMo7 will supposedly only allow apps to be installed through MS store... so I have no idea if it'll be possible for me to write an app for that OS and actually use it (it won't be commercial in any way and 100% useless for 99% of people, as it only serves as a live example for my thesis).
To summarize:
- Is is possible for a "basement-programmer" like myself to use WMo7 to show off my own apps without the use of the MS store?
- If so, where could I get my hands on WMo7 for HD2?
- If WMo7 is not available to us mortals, could someone tell me roughly when a public release will be available?
- Or perhaps the whole idea is pointless and I should just develop my app in VS2080 and show it off with the HD2 that I currently own? (It's will be a simple app that connects to some database online without being limited to MSSQL and does something with it, where "something" is yet unspecified)
Shaamaan said:
To summarize:
- Is is possible for a "basement-programmer" like myself to use WMo7 to show off my own apps without the use of the MS store?
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developers should be able too install apps without going into the store like it is on wm6.5 atm.
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- If so, where could I get my hands on WMo7 for HD2?
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its not available.
Shaamaan said:
- If WMo7 is not available to us mortals, could someone tell me roughly when a public release will be available?
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assume currently it wont be available for the HD2, if it is then it wont be available until a few months after the release of wp7
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- Or perhaps the whole idea is pointless and I should just develop my app in VS2010 and show it off with the HD2 that I currently own? (It's will be a simple app that connects to some database online without being limited to MSSQL and does something with it, where "something" is yet unspecified)
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maybe
Xp3RiM3nT said:
assume currently it wont be available for the HD2, if it is then it wont be available until a few months after the release of wp7
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Despite the fact that WMo7 has already been ported?
maybe
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I actually meant using VS2008 BTW, typo...
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Despite the fact that WMo7 has already been ported?
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AKAIK it hasnt, there is a rom available but it doesnt run on any current device since its a beta rom for an unreleased device.
there is a chance they may get it working on the HD2 or some other phone but its not available currently.
Xp3RiM3nT said:
AKAIK it hasnt, there is a rom available but it doesnt run on any current device since its a beta rom for an unreleased device.
there is a chance they may get it working on the HD2 or some other phone but its not available currently.
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So... the whole thing about W7 having been ported to HD2 was just a rumour?
I am not sure where you heard that winmo had been ported too hd2? is a link available.
I have just checked Da_G's twitter account and he is still working on the port, he has developed several new tools too help him but is struggling to get some stuff to do with the JTAG controller.
there is a hd2 application which attempts to reimplement some of the functions you can see in the wp7 promo videos but this is not a port it is just an application that looks like wp7.
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So... the whole thing about W7 having been ported to HD2 was just a rumour?
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write your app under 2008 and for 6.5, there hasn't been any word from the source of that rumour for months. C# code is very portable between 2008 and 2010, so don't worry about that. With a little work (can be on the order of hours) you can upgrade your code to 2010 and 7.0 if it ever arrives for HD2.
uuum.. u can show windows phone 7 with a emulator on a pc.. and i think ms released the windows phone 7 tools to programm apps for it alerady..
http://developer.windowsphone.com/Default.aspx
dont know if its possible to just run the app without the market.. i hope it is, but really dont know >.<
and its impossible to port wp7 to the HD2 right now. yes, it already happened, but that version is very laggy and buggy, so its useless when u want to show it
This deserves an epic thread of its own. =)
I am flabbergasted how one person can do this while it takes DFT um, who knows?
Maybe DFT is working on MANGO already and we all thought it was NoDo.
Maybe the joke was on us all along.
All I know is I'm so glad it's available, I've been checking these forums everyday for this. But of course now my internet is down, joke's on me, lol.
Sent from my HD2 using XDA Windows Phone 7 App
lemonspeakers said:
This deserves an epic thread of its own. =)
I am flabbergasted how one person can do this while it takes DFT um, who knows?
Maybe DFT is working on MANGO already and we all thought it was NoDo.
Maybe the joke was on us all along.
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Will check it out.
So now you can close your thread: 'DFT got NoDo working' ? :-D
i have a feeling that dft's release will be epic...prolly because it will come with the new magldr, and its been about 4 months since they first released the intial wp7 rom, so hopefully the camera and multitouch bugs are gone. the official thread of dft wp7 did say "beta"
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So now you can close your thread: 'DFT got NoDo working' ? :-D
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i know right? hahahlol
expect sth. more by DFT...
yes, they made the first release on hd2.
keep going on mango...
but nothing to us anymore..
Maybe, ms have to offer amnesty and enlistment to them.
However, who knows...
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expect sth. more by DFT...
yes, they made the first release on hd2.
keep going on mango...
but nothing to us anymore..
Maybe, ms have to offer amnesty and enlistment to them.
However, who knows...
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im not suprised if they did. but they are DFT and not the chevron team who went out loud in public and got their @$$ sold out just to keep their fingers tied down.
does the new version have the original blue theme or is it still dark blue?
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does the new version have the original blue theme or is it still dark blue?
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only the dark & white , but more aero by Yuki.
Besides, how the original blue looks like??
i`ve never seen it before...
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This deserves an epic thread of its own. =)
I am flabbergasted how one person can do this while it takes DFT um, who knows?
Maybe DFT is working on MANGO already and we all thought it was NoDo.
Maybe the joke was on us all along.
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when I dont know , but the DFT release will be different from this one.
first: the dft nodo build will be updateble
secondly: the dft build wont have overlaps on the modules.
so this release is cool but the one from dft will be the bomb
and don't forget one thing , the people on the dft team are doing this in there free time and they only release stuff that is 100% noob prove and that is way they always take there time.
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im not suprised if they did. but they are DFT and not the chevron team who went out loud in public and got their @$$ sold out just to keep their fingers tied down.
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absolutely!!
furthermore, the mango, which is hacked by dft few months ago, is our real expectation!!!
all of us are waiting for it !!!
DFT , I NEED THE MANGO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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when I dont know , but the DFT release will be different from this one.
first: the dft nodo build will be updateble
secondly: the dft build wont have overlaps on the modules.
so this release is cool but the one from dft will be the bomb
and don't forget one thing , the people on the dft team are doing this in there free time and they only release stuff that is 100% noob prove and that is way they always take there time.
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SO, that`s dft...
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when I dont know , but the DFT release will be different from this one.
first: the dft nodo build will be updateble
secondly: the dft build wont have overlaps on the modules.
so this release is cool but the one from dft will be the bomb
and don't forget one thing , the people on the dft team are doing this in there free time and they only release stuff that is 100% noob prove and that is way they always take there time.
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Who cares! YukiXDA got nodo working! YAY!
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^^
It's not updatable by zune for the moment since DFT has chosen to don't use the same blocksize as other WP7 roms
Edit: and I'm not sure it's a good idea, imagine you connect your HD2 to PC, zune dectect an update available, you'll so happy and this update overwrite some specific drivers for HD2 by some for HD7. poof no way to boot, you lose your data and cry XD
There is few module overlap since we have to keep these modules as they are (specific drivers for HD2) and not include all from the new build. It won't be the same if we could use the IMGFS structure of the new build (the imgfs.bin beside IMGFSFromDump) but we can't because of the different block size lol It's so stupid for now since it's a pretty little changement it magldr
And this cause none problem for now and the rom wouldn't run better if there were not.
Mango, mango, mango... but it's not the problem, I understand people are waiting for this release and since it's the end-user which import they only see that. But it's not the problem, it's just an update of SYS like other. There is a lot knowledge at xda
The MOST important are drivers. HD2 is quietly the same as HD7 but not for few things. And so few drivers we use are specialy compiled tu run WP7 on HD2. For that we have to thanks DFT team a lot since we couldn't have any build at all!!!
And I hope this is their stuff and not HTC test and that they can update them or give the knowledge (or another developper can do the same) otherwise we'll be blocked to update at a moment HD2 since these few modules won't be compatibles with new ones.
Another thing, people can do all tests they want to analyse power consumption between my build or another for nothing. It's not the choice of what we build, nor the registry but a lack of the driver battery.dll (and certainly a problem with the camera driver since theere is a trick) and the battery mdd isn't easily updatable since the module dependencies. And we have only one, only one choice So it'll be the same for any other build expect if DFT or other can achieve a new driver.
The same for multitouch: All build use 8K_touchpdd_res.dll and the problem come from that driver. Same for audio, same for RIL, same for camera.
So the end-user choice of a build for moment is for extra stuff and design lol And waiting for new drivers...
hi guys i have flash my hd2 with this room ,but i have two critical problems
1-insane drain battery lose all batery in 4 hours
2-camera dont have auto focus .i allready install alot off aplication but all cameras software dont have autofocus
someone know any way to correct this bugs??
tnks to all for any help .
Great job YukiXDA!!!
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Who cares! YukiXDA got nodo working! YAY!
Sent from my HTC HD2 using Tapatalk
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+1 for that.
I appreciate the DFT because they made WP7 on HD2 possible and for nice tool magldr, from what I understand, the only way to run WP7. But now, YukiXDA is the best for getting NoDo to work on HD2 and the most important, he uploaded it himself on XDA and answered us most of our questions (giving us "technical support").
wolfpt said:
hi guys i have flash my hd2 with this room ,but i have two critical problems
1-insane drain battery lose all batery in 4 hours
2-camera dont have auto focus .i allready install alot off aplication but all cameras software dont have autofocus
someone know any way to correct this bugs??
tnks to all for any help .
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It's not normal to have that battery consumption so if you can't find other way so solve this I suggest you to reinstall the ROM all over again
In the original camera app the only way to focus is switching from camera to video and back to camera, as far as I know
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It's not updatable by zune for the moment since DFT has chosen to don't use the same blocksize as other WP7 roms
Edit: and I'm not sure it's a good idea, imagine you connect your HD2 to PC, zune dectect an update available, you'll so happy and this update overwrite some specific drivers for HD2 by some for HD7. poof no way to boot, you lose your data and cry XD
There is few module overlap since we have to keep these modules as they are (specific drivers for HD2) and not include all from the new build. It won't be the same if we could use the IMGFS structure of the new build (the imgfs.bin beside IMGFSFromDump) but we can't because of the different block size lol It's so stupid for now since it's a pretty little changement it magldr
And this cause none problem for now and the rom wouldn't run better if there were not.
Mango, mango, mango... but it's not the problem, I understand people are waiting for this release and since it's the end-user which import they only see that. But it's not the problem, it's just an update of SYS like other. There is a lot knowledge at xda
The MOST important are drivers. HD2 is quietly the same as HD7 but not for few things. And so few drivers we use are specialy compiled tu run WP7 on HD2. For that we have to thanks DFT team a lot since we couldn't have any build at all!!!
And I hope this is their stuff and not HTC test and that they can update them or give the knowledge (or another developper can do the same) otherwise we'll be blocked to update at a moment HD2 since these few modules won't be compatibles with new ones.
Another thing, people can do all tests they want to analyse power consumption between my build or another for nothing. It's not the choice of what we build, nor the registry but a lack of the driver battery.dll (and certainly a problem with the camera driver since theere is a trick) and the battery mdd isn't easily updatable since the module dependencies. And we have only one, only one choice So it'll be the same for any other build expect if DFT or other can achieve a new driver.
The same for multitouch: All build use 8K_touchpdd_res.dll and the problem come from that driver. Same for audio, same for RIL, same for camera.
So the end-user choice of a build for moment is for extra stuff and design lol And waiting for new drivers...
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My dear GOD!!!
i dont know why you these guys are so expect the mango!
as Yuki`s words ,yes, it`s just a sys update indeed...
but for me, for these people, who lives on the se of asia, called:"CHINA"...
we just need CHINESE in the rom, for the language, for the input... for everything & everything.
if nodo can do it. I means nodo have my native
language input..
mango is xxxxxxx nothing!!!
zamorl said:
My dear GOD!!!
i dont know why you these guys are so expect the mango!
as Yuki`s words ,yes, it`s just a sys update indeed...
but for me, for these people, who lives on the se of asia, called:"CHINA"...
we just need CHINESE in the rom, for the language, for the input... for everything & everything.
if nodo can do it. I means nodo have my native
language input..
mango is xxxxxx nothing!!!
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I love gibberish rage!!
I'm expecting mango too lol for any reasons. But what I say is that mango updating isn't a problem since we'll have roms from porting sys ONLY if there isn't any conflict with actual specific drivers for HD2.
I undersand your problem, as I've seen one some china topics, DFT or some had achieved to have china keyboard in their build. Mango specific? I don't know. If you search and procure me some knowledge/links etc. I can try to incorporate it.