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The Cube is SOOO USELESS

Its not cool at all, just plain annoying. I have all those damn shortcuts on the today screen! I'm going to see if there's a TouchIT 2.3 around here w/o Cube cuz it sucks ass and just hogs 5MB or RAM that I can't get back without a reset
Bad job HTC, bad job.
Excellent job XDA Devs though! You guys make these phones the funnest toys one could ever have!

Dumb
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This must be one of the most useless posts out a lot of very bad posts.Could a moderator please close this post
Besides very offensive and rude to ITje it is plain ass stupid; why? Let me explain:
#1 Everybody in this forum using it in a constructive way is doing this in his/her sparetime and they are doing this volentairely!
#2 ITje used his sparetime to cook us a Rom which is WAY better than any MS Rom filled with junk and useless software.
#3 A Rom which is, even with hogging these 5 MB, better then the official one due to the improved stability, improved speed, gained space and additional much needed software.
#4 A rom which is available in several flavours with or without Cube
#5 TouchIT 2.3 is already outdated by version 3 and since today version4 (again in several flavours)
#6 By offending the people who are willing to use their sparetime to provide us with better Rom you will chase them away from cooking so eventually none of them is willing to do anything for anyone.
#7 If it is so annoying > flash your device with the original RUU and stop wining about it.
#8 Want me to go on....?
Please take my advice on this one:
If something like this is bugging you again... use your toilet because we don't need this ****. Take IT, leave it or build one yourselves

^Awww, must be that time of the month for you. I understand, don't worry

everybody is entitled to an oppinion....
But many ppl like the cube.
And as I told you earlier, there will come versions without the cube and only touchflo, but as I also said, I dont have the time right now to cook up the other releases, I have other things to do
. The lite version was just an last minute experiment with ftouchflo, wich I never used before. Didnt have time to test it properly, but if you bother to do a search in development and hacking section of this forum there is a hotfix. and there is also a config tool there somewhere
I can give you link to fix, but config u need to find yourself
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=338143&highlight=ftouch

^Thanks a lot man. I hope you didn't take my post the wrong way like our friend above did. I meant it as venting at my disappointment at HTC with that Cube, not against you. I really appreciate your work and if you don't do a cubeless 2.3, its fine. Its not like I'm paying for any of this!

hidavi said:
Its not cool at all, just plain annoying. I have all those damn shortcuts on the today screen! I'm going to see if there's a TouchIT 2.3 around here w/o Cube cuz it sucks ass and just hogs 5MB or RAM that I can't get back without a reset
Bad job HTC, bad job.
Excellent job XDA Devs though! You guys make these phones the funnest toys one could ever have!
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Well, I kinda share your arguments, but you know, your words were not well chosen,
but typical itje he luckily takes things lightly and helps out everybody everytime.
Just choose your words wisely next time
Happy new year!

I must say, I think the Cube us very useless too, nice to play with it,
for like 4 times, but after that it's out of real use.
A today screen with integrated Cube, now THAT would be nice. Having different today screens wich you can swap. So still start menu/softkeys.
Any good-ass programmer interested?

hidavi said:
must be that time of the month for you.
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hehe admit it, that's funny
but no need for this thread to be opened, that is true

like itje said, its this person's opinion! There are lot more useless posts on this forum. I think this post is very good because it could let the noob firmware flasher on what firmware to pick, with or without the cube.
In my opinion, cube is very useless for general purpose. But very good to show it off to your friends. Trust me it comes very handy when they try to smack talk to you "why you didnt buy the Iphone."
I think in the months to come, we are going to be moving away from the cube and integrating the PointUI interface in the new releases. I love the pointui interface becuase it does more then the cube does. It is aso in the beginnng stages and there are more features and more stable releases to come!
Also, I dont think he meant any disrespect to itje. He just asked if there was a cubeless version of the Touch-it rom.

Yes, I meant no respect. Check the last line of appreciation I typed.

I once tested a program for switching todayscreens - but as in windows xp it is slow....
perhaps someone could put things together.
but like pointui - all is finally redirected to the crappy winmobile software - when wiritng sms or anything else. comming there can be very nice - cube, pointui, spbmobile shell --> but at the end we stop there wehere we could get by pressing - start-programms-messaging
The Dutchman said:
I must say, I think the Cube us very useless too, nice to play with it,
for like 4 times, but after that it's out of real use.
A today screen with integrated Cube, now THAT would be nice. Having different today screens wich you can swap. So still start menu/softkeys.
Any good-ass programmer interested?
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Yeah PointUI is nice, but it needs WAY MORE development,
and it drastically needs skinning options

Someone seen some tampons
As Gambit999 said; not well chosen words. Choose well next time and may the force be with you my friend.

I really like the cube and come handy when i am viewing pictures and playing mp3s..

Hi guys,
I've already Windows Mobile 6 in my P4350. There's anyway to install now the "famous" cube?
How to do that? Or do I have to instal the entire ROM Update?
Thanks

Mainly you will get it through Custom ROMs but there is also a new coded standalone version which you can find here.

I have an idea. If you don't like the cube, then don't use it.
I have had a cubed rom for a while... and the only time i ever bring up the cube, is when someone asks about my phone, so I'll show them the stupid little things like HTC Album, and Cube just to show off the whole GUI aspect of it... other than that, I never use any of it.

duprade said:
I have an idea. If you don't like the cube, then don't use it.
I have had a cubed rom for a while... and the only time i ever bring up the cube, is when someone asks about my phone, so I'll show them the stupid little things like HTC Album, and Cube just to show off the whole GUI aspect of it... other than that, I never use any of it.
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Exactly, that's the same what I do if people ask me about my phone. The HTC Album btw does get some attention by myself.

Release the beta ROM please !!

We all know that the shift project is a bit delayed
Could one of you who have the beta/development ROM please release it, to the community so that those of us who want to cook something can try and see if we can get something out of it. (maby a briked device )

You can use the rom from your device, it will be a good base for a rom. Beta rom only add gps drivers but remove stability from the same base.

thaihugo said:
... but remove stability from the same base.
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sorry thaihugo... but what do you want to say exactly with this... what's these problems? ...and gps drivers provided with beta rom work with both windows mobile and vista? because there are many gps navigation software for tablet pc that works with vista... so we can delete SD card driver problem for the moment... (and i/we can finally use a PC navigator, for windows vista.. )

GPS drivers are also a top priority for me, and that’s one of the main reasons why I would like it!!
And I also hope the shift project have made some small progress with other things that might be of use.

davidgreen said:
sorry thaihugo... but what do you want to say exactly with this... what's these problems? ...and gps drivers provided with beta rom work with both windows mobile and vista? because there are many gps navigation software for tablet pc that works with vista... so we can delete SD card driver problem for the moment... (and i/we can finally use a PC navigator, for windows vista.. )
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Let's be clear:
HTC release a rom with gps drivers during product development. I think this is the beta ROM. It has many other problem but it has GPS
HTC release final ROM without GPS because it think GPS is not to be added.
Somebody must take the final rom, and add gps drivers from beta rom or from another rom in it.
Nobody actually is doing this. Cmonex will do this, but it seems to take some time.
If you want, you can do it yourself using your own Rom dumped from your shift, and add some gps drivers files.
If somebody want's to do this, I'll be happy to provide any files or reg regarding gps from the rom. Just give me precise name and key.

thaihugo said:
If you want, you can do it yourself......
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I believe the whole point of us donating enough money to purchase the 2 units was so that we wouldn't have to do it ourselves.

let us cook
maybe she can't release the beta rom because she need the agreement of htc.
plus htc plan to provide a gps rom update, I suppose they don't want this project on internet.
finaly mains goal of this project could be the sd card, bluetooth wvga
anyway she made the olio sspl userfriendly and we can cook the final snapvue rom. this is already a great achievement !!!

nicolas.maigne said:
maybe she can't release the beta rom because she need the agreement of htc.
plus htc plan to provide a gps rom update, I suppose they don't want this project on internet.
finaly mains goal of this project could be the sd card, bluetooth wvga
anyway she made the olio sspl userfriendly and we can cook the final snapvue rom. this is already a great achievement !!!
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I agree with the main goals above, but that is just me being selfish (I have no use for GPS - though I will no doubt "have" one if it is available - much to my wife's annoyance). I just really really want voice capability. I can not even record a voice note as the mic does not seem to work. Oh well, I do like everything else about the machine. I suppose I can't have my cake and eat it too.

Pantaloonie said:
I believe the whole point of us donating enough money to purchase the 2 units was so that we wouldn't have to do it ourselves.
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Yes I know, but I was starting to think about a plan B in case thinks gets too slow.

thaihugo said:
Yes I know, but I was starting to think about a plan B in case thinks gets too slow.
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and.... what would it be ???

do you honestly believe that htc is trying to stop cmonex from releasing a rom version? shouldn't they tried this when the spl was released? I don't think htc is giving some real sh.t about what's being done down here.
shoudn't microsoft contact the god damned crackers that make cracked versions of windows vista and contribute to millions of $$ lost. Well most probably they don't. By the present time they should have found out that it's useless.
the rom development is simply delayed. For what reason we don't know. But it isn't the alien invaders, the ninja worriors send by htc to kill cmonex or some major plot in the grand scheme of things. It's just delayed. Maybe they want to add more than only gps activation.

facdemol said:
shoudn't microsoft contact the god damned crackers that make cracked versions of windows vista and contribute to millions of $$ lost. Well most probably they don't. By the present time they should have found out that it's useless.
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they did and went on record to all saying we'd rather you steel/hack a windows O/S then use linux or mac
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and who was the guy saying that... microsoft's ceo, billy boy gates? the one who said 512kilobites of ram shoud be enough..
that's funny though.. billy and steve appeared on a tv show telling the world that they just started to really be friends.
anyway .... we'd rather you steel/hack a htc phone then use those goddamned simbian devices )

Good diversion from the wait, whatz plan B?
I'm loving this, at least some discussion on the ROM release is better than weeks of no news. Still anxious to know about the plan B though. In case nothing really comes up.

feyisetan said:
I'm loving this, at least some discussion on the ROM release is better than weeks of no news. Still anxious to know about the plan B though. In case nothing really comes up.
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I think that Plan B is to sell the crippled shift, ... anyway... I'm thinking about this... it isn't possible to use drivers from another HTC smartphone that use the same CPU, and that use a clean copy of Windows mobile with all hardware unlocked, and make a beta test cooked rom with those drivers for testing purpose..

we just need to know the progress and whats stopping those roms, is it money or is it time or what? coz we are very anxious about the whole thing

what about 6.1??
beta rom is buggy and slow , a good start could be winmo 6.1 in order to mount the 3d driver of the qualcom msn 7200. the actual 5.2.1620 kernel is too slow on the shift. snapvue would be more pleasent to use with the last kernel.
it would be great to make the gps drivers not mandatory, it is a great handicap for people not using it. qualcomm gps ship drain a lot of battery enven if they are not used!!

If you want, you can do it yourself using your own Rom dumped from your shift, and add some gps drivers files.
If somebody want's to do this, I'll be happy to provide any files or reg regarding gps from the rom. Just give me precise name and key.
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hem... about the files and reg of gps from the rom... I'm interested, I want to do some "experiments" on my shift...

Give me the name of the files and registry export you want, and I'll zip them here.

How should we know the keys and files we need if we don't know exactly what the rom contains
That is exactly why I would like to look at the rom so i can find out what improvements that are needed to get it up and running, or intergate it to a new rom

***** New TouchFlo 3D ROM - From HTC *****

Hi guys as many of you may already know, with the release of the new Touch Pro & Diamond, HTC is releasing a new Touchflo version with many new features (see video)
http://www.intomobile.com/2009/02/19/htc-touchflo-3d-walkthrough-video-new-and-improved.html
I was wondering is any of you have knows where to get it from, or when will it be released. I am aware of xda ROM's such as dutty's XTREME, etc. However am not in the position to sacrifice performance & stability for a beta. Moreover dont have the time to be messing with the phone. Therefore I rather stick to the original release.
I will keep looking around for more info, if any of u have any thoughts on this matter lets share.
Take care guys, adn thanks in advance.

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Agree with you. Would be fun with a little updating tf3d

venezuelan_pimp said:
Hi guys as many of you may already know, with the release of the new Touch Pro & Diamond, HTC is releasing a new Touchflo version with many new features (see video)
http://www.intomobile.com/2009/02/19/htc-touchflo-3d-walkthrough-video-new-and-improved.html
I was wondering is any of you have knows where to get it from, or when will it be released. I am aware of xda ROM's such as dutty's XTREME, etc. However am not in the position to sacrifice performance & stability for a beta. Moreover dont have the time to be messing with the phone. Therefore I rather stick to the original release.
I will keep looking around for more info, if any of u have any thoughts on this matter lets share.
Take care guys, adn thanks in advance.
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It's probably more an IF then a WHEN
but the wiki
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Blackstone_Ship_exe
keeps a list of official roms so I guess just keep on checking that

Most of the "new" features have already been implimented in the touch HD initial release. the only thing i really need is the calendar tab - and that was added to all the new cooked rom's.
In short - I don't really see anything new in this tf3d...
as for using a "beta" rom - I've been running the Dutty V2.1 extreme for the past few days - and it's running perfectly (anther chance to thank Dutty for all the hard work...)
So - i'd say - not "if" but "why not"... just flash Dutty - and you get all you want...

Alternative
What about that, while waiting for a integrated TF3D Rom ?
http://www.modaco.com/content/black...omplete-customizable-tf3d-theme-for-touch-hd/

deanoyouno said:
they have released one, my mate who is a developer downloaded it yesterday. there is a piece of software which you can download
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any URL ?

deanoyouno == disinformation
deanoyouno said:
they have released one, my mate who is a developer downloaded it yesterday. there is a piece of software which you can download
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Don' t mind him ... .
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=489642

venezuelan_pimp said:
Hi guys as many of you may already know, with the release of the new Touch Pro & Diamond, HTC is releasing a new Touchflo version with many new features (see video)
http://www.intomobile.com/2009/02/19/htc-touchflo-3d-walkthrough-video-new-and-improved.html
I was wondering is any of you have knows where to get it from, or when will it be released. I am aware of xda ROM's such as dutty's XTREME, etc. However am not in the position to sacrifice performance & stability for a beta. Moreover dont have the time to be messing with the phone. Therefore I rather stick to the original release.
I will keep looking around for more info, if any of u have any thoughts on this matter lets share.
Take care guys, adn thanks in advance.
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Okay, so you're aware of Dutty's ROM. Well, it's the same software you're reading about. It may never be released for the HD by HTC since it's meant to complement new hardware models.
I'm running it right now. Using Dutty's. It's great. I'd never even consider going backwards.
Rob

Thanks guys
thank u guys for the info

I really can't find any changes from the original TF3D i currently have on my HD.
It looks the same.

Little suggestion

Hi,
I don't know if it'll be possible but
Why all the coockers don't make a "JF updater" like ?
An apk able to track new version in the build directly ?
This way people who like haykuro, thedude, jf or cyanogen would stay up-to-date.
Just a suggestion...

I think that's an awesome idea, personally. I'm farely new to all this but I can already tell, that keeping up with all these versions is pretty time consuming. But i'm liking it so far..

dixxa said:
Hi,
I don't know if it'll be possible but
Why all the coockers don't make a "JF updater" like ?
An apk able to track new version in the build directly ?
This way people who like haykuro, thedude, jf or cyanogen would stay up-to-date.
Just a suggestion...
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It would require that the makers of JF Updater release their source code and that the cooks know how to program and change the code to search and find the files. And they have to have a centralized place where their files come from... But it's definitively doable.

DavidChill said:
I think that's an awesome idea, personally. I'm farely new to all this but I can already tell, that keeping up with all these versions is pretty time consuming. But i'm liking it so far..
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Coming from another HTC phone, keeping up with the different versions for the G1 is almost TOO easy. We need more cooks. I'd cook for it, if I could have some guidance getting started... I've taught people to cook for all kinds of HTC phones, but it was always Windows Mobile phones. With this phone, I don't feel like searching and searching and searching again from scratch to learn at a snails's pace. Especially since I'm so busy with work, school and life now a days. And I still cook for the Herald. I currently have about 3 different ROM in the works (6.1, 6.1 stripped to the bone and 6.5)
Wait... I'm talking too much.

"OEM" ROM for Tmous

Hello,
I was wondering if anybody would be willing to build a custom ROM that is identical to the stock Tmous ROM but without the bloatware.
This would be much appreciated.
Thanks.

I Believe the Kumar Classic version has exactly what you're asking for. He's making a LITE version which supposedly will be stripped of completely anything unnecessary.

Phenomenon said:
I Believe the Kumar Classic version has exactly what you're asking for. He's making a LITE version which supposedly will be stripped of completely anything unnecessary.
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I hope his Lite version is going to be what I am looking for. I love Kumar's ROM but I would rather have the stock on-screen buttons.

How stripped do you want it?

I'm going to give this one last bump,
I am willing to cook, just curious what you are looking for.

Nibbley15 said:
I'm going to give this one last bump,
I am willing to cook, just curious what you are looking for.
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What programs would you recommend for Security Admin. ie: Anti-Hacking tools, hacking tools or, ways hack a hacker? LOL its strange request but it takes a knowledge of a skilled hacker to become a professional one.
Thanks

I'm running Kumars 1.9 Lite WWE rom right now and it has everything that you would expect a lite version to have. The main screen is the same but doesn't have the transformers icon. It does run Arkswitch which is probably the only thing really different about it. Its also missing swype but you can get that installed by installing the Kumar Swype. I also installed cookie tabs v1.7 so it looks really nice. Then just put cleanram on there and set it to do a lvl 2 wipe every 3 hours and ur pretty good to go. I'm starting to get used to this phone now; coming from an iPhone it is a big transition. I don't like the HTC Messaging so I disabled it and am running straight from the stock messaging. It doesn't have as much eye candy but when you use swype it goes a lot faster.

CHANC said:
What programs would you recommend for Security Admin. ie: Anti-Hacking tools, hacking tools or, ways hack a hacker? LOL its strange request but it takes a knowledge of a skilled hacker to become a professional one.
Thanks
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LOL, A Hacker according to Meriam Webster is: An expert at programming and problem solving problems with a computer; or A person who illegally gains access to and sometimes tampers with information in a computer system.
I know enough to know I can always learn more. Best advice I can give you is to keep learning....
I use Envirus kitchen with Bepe tools provided by RSTOYGUY.

I would also be interested in a slimmed down rom like this (currently using Kumar's - but I like having the stock on-screen buttons)
just dont want any of the bloatware
additional Programs I would like
Wi-Fi Router
Registry Editor
if you having any other questions about this feel free to ask.
Thank you VERY much,
merkman90

I am curious what you mean by "bloatware"?
There are lots of good ROM's out there, so if you get specific on what you want removed and added I can post a sample.
BTW: Cookie's hometabs are awesome compared to the original, and you can go to a 3X3, 4X4, or 5X5 (3X3 is close to stock)
Thanks

Sorry. I didn't realize people were replying to this thread.
I have decided to stick with Kumar's ROM. It is bare enough.
Thanks for the replies, however.
A side question: I am having trouble with my Youtube. I can preview the videos while connected to Wifi but I cannot actually watch the videos. I can only watch videos when using edge after disconnecting wifi (I am on att). Please let me know if you have a solution to this.
Thanks.

Nibbley15 said:
I am curious what you mean by "bloatware"?
There are lots of good ROM's out there, so if you get specific on what you want removed and added I can post a sample.
BTW: Cookie's hometabs are awesome compared to the original, and you can go to a 3X3, 4X4, or 5X5 (3X3 is close to stock)
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I mean like all the trial crap
I also dont want arkswitch
If Im correct all of kumars has that right??

merkman90 said:
I mean like all the trial crap
I also dont want arkswitch
If Im correct all of kumars has that right??
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That's an easy build; I don't use arkswitch in my builds. Any other items you want cooked in? (And from the build logs yes kumar uses arcswitch)

thegraydorian said:
Sorry. I didn't realize people were replying to this thread.
I have decided to stick with Kumar's ROM. It is bare enough.
Thanks for the replies, however.
A side question: I am having trouble with my Youtube. I can preview the videos while connected to Wifi but I cannot actually watch the videos. I can only watch videos when using edge after disconnecting wifi (I am on att). Please let me know if you have a solution to this.
Thanks.
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I am on a custom ROM, "me" edition (compliments of RSTOYGUY) and having zero issues using youtube via WIFI; hopefully someone here has been down that road and lead you in the right direction.

Nibbley15 said:
That's an easy build; I don't use arkswitch in my builds. Any other items you want cooked in? (And from the build logs yes kumar uses arcswitch)
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WIFI router
Microsoft .NET Compact Framework 3.5
and Im pretty sre I have cabs for everything else I need
(are your builds 23563?)

merkman90 said:
WIFI router
Microsoft .NET Compact Framework 3.5
and Im pretty sre I have cabs for everything else I need
(are your builds 23563?)
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I can build either 21901, 21903, 23116, or 23566