Well people. We've released AP4.0 and everyone is trying it out.
What we want to try next is Android.
Keep your eyes open. We're going to start putting things together for this project soon.
good job seeing my post 15015 years ago people!
=p
ltxda just likes to steal my thunder =p
ltxda said:
Well people. We've released AP4.0 and everyone is trying it out.
What we want to try next is Android.
Keep your eyes open. We're going to start putting things together for this project soon.
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What about the vanilla AP4 that does not require repartitioning?
eaglesteve said:
What about the vanilla AP4 that does not require repartitioning?
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OFF TOPIC ALERT....OFF TOPIC ALERT!!!!
It should not require the new SPL. Final determination will be posted upon release of course.
boinger66 said:
good job seeing my post 15015 years ago people!
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ltxda just likes to steal my thunder =p
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LOL!
Hey I don't even think I ready your post...but glad you're part of the team, so don't complain!
Anyhow, we have some resources and not just an idea.
How do u think do this?
Will i need to flash my device new?
When it is so, for me -1
When i can have AP4 and Android TOGETER on one device +1
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How do u think do this?
Will i need to flash my device new?
When it is so, for me -1
When i can have AP4 and Android TOGETER on one device +1
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Should be able to run both on your device but not at the same time.
Multi-boot or liveCD ISO concept desired
Guys,
It would be great to have both PK 4.0 and Andriod working at the same time in either a multi-boot scenario, or in a vm / overlay based solution. If we could launch the Andriod solution from miniSD or ext rom, that would be awesome. Especially for the 1.0 versions. Later 2.0 or stronger could completely replace a PK based ROM, if we had all of the tools and applications ported over to support andriod as a daily user / solution.
I know that these thoughts may seem a bit different that what was mentioned in the past, but I think that they would allow for better acceptance and utility until the Andriod solution picks up more steam and acceptance amonst the community...
There are also some WM based applications that I wouldn't want to loose or to have to port over at this time.
Hope this helps,
Bob
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Well people. We've released AP4.0 and everyone is trying it out.
What we want to try next is Android.
Keep your eyes open. We're going to start putting things together for this project soon.
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Go A-Team! haha
I had to go and find out just what android was but now I know, I think it is excellent and has oodles of potential
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Should be able to run both on your device but not at the same time.
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This sounds good!
When you can create a "Bootloader - screen" where i can select, wat OS i want use i vote +1!
There atleast is a definate potential for a bootloader piece like the pc has of lilo or grub for the ppc it will all be determined based on what we can create and develop
Hi
I mentioned once before that android could be cool
It would be great
Perfect idea! I you need testers let me know! Two OS versions on a machine AP4 and Android, whats next?
QAN said:
Perfect idea! I you need testers let me know! Two OS versions on a machine AP4 and Android, whats next?
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iphone port
Great idea
What is this? The enterprise.... Go where no man has gone before I I captain ltxda
linux would be a good idea also
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linux would be a good idea also
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Qtopia is beginning to appear on one or two devices, main problem it appears is secrecy from HTC on some of their hardware from what I understand. But htc are supposed to be involved in android, so it should be a bit easier..
scopy60 said:
linux would be a good idea also
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android is based on linux i believe
bob_beringer said:
Guys,
It would be great to have both PK 4.0 and Andriod working at the same time in either a multi-boot scenario, or in a vm / overlay based solution. If we could launch the Andriod solution from miniSD or ext rom, that would be awesome. Especially for the 1.0 versions. Later 2.0 or stronger could completely replace a PK based ROM, if we had all of the tools and applications ported over to support andriod as a daily user / solution.
I know that these thoughts may seem a bit different that what was mentioned in the past, but I think that they would allow for better acceptance and utility until the Andriod solution picks up more steam and acceptance amonst the community...
There are also some WM based applications that I wouldn't want to loose or to have to port over at this time.
Hope this helps,
Bob
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It will be released so WM is preserved and you will be able to boot to Android then go back to WM. Not sure of all the specifics yet as those will be worked out. Great minds think alike.
Related
Since HTC/Sprint released a new ROM - how long will it be before somebody releases a custom/cooked/optimized ROM? Has there been any work done in that direction yet?
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Since HTC/Sprint released a new ROM - how long will it be before somebody releases a custom/cooked/optimized ROM? Has there been any work done in that direction yet?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=318038
Progress is being made! I wish I could help, but I'm not that good at cooking sweet ROMs. I'll just be patient and wait for the good stuff to come. It's only a matter of time
im sorry i know this is probably the stupidest question ever and some of you all thinkin damn whats he doin on these forums but i like learnig new things whats a ROM? sorry....
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im sorry i know this is probably the stupidest question ever and some of you all thinkin damn whats he doin on these forums but i like learnig new things whats a ROM? sorry....
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Hehe, he all have to start somewhere right?
An easy way to explain it is if you think of your device as a regular home computer. A "ROM" would be a piece of software that includes the operating system, drivers, and can include added applications. Basic, but do you follow?
kinda like emulators and roms? like a N64 emulator and it plays N64 ROMS.. ROMS are the games..? the games (APPS((roms) and the cell(titan((emulator))
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kinda like emulators and roms? like a N64 emulator and it plays N64 ROMS.. ROMS are the games..? the games (APPS((roms) and the cell(titan((emulator))
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Well, no, not exactly. That would imply that your device is somehow emulating an OS within an existing OS.
The ROM is "package of sotware", including a "native" Windows CE OS and drivers/software for your specific device.
Without a ROM, your phone would be inoperable. It would be like having a computer with an empty hard drive.
ohhh ok gotcha so why are people tryin to change up the rom? what are they tryin to do cuz the only thing i plan on doin when i get the mogul is getin the Iphone theme lol but if there addin cool stuff i would def be interested
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ohhh ok gotcha so why are people tryin to change up the rom? what are they tryin to do cuz the only thing i plan on doin when i get the mogul is getin the Iphone theme lol but if there addin cool stuff i would def be interested
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That's a question with about a hundred different answers.
Primarily, people change around or "cook" ROMs to make their device better. This can include, making it run faster, lighter (less bloatware), more stable, etc.
Also, for some devices that can support it, stepping up the OS is another reason. For example, you may buy a phone that was purchased running Windows Mobile 5. But after some time Windows Mobile 6 was released on other, similar phones. So, some developers or "chefs" on this site take basically an image of the updated OS from one phone, tweaks it, adds some things, takes away others, and voila! A phone with an updated OS, running better than ever.
sweet something to look forward to especially since im puttin the iphone theme on my phone and thats takes alot of memory to run
Hi,
I don't know if it'll be possible but
Why all the coockers don't make a "JF updater" like ?
An apk able to track new version in the build directly ?
This way people who like haykuro, thedude, jf or cyanogen would stay up-to-date.
Just a suggestion...
I think that's an awesome idea, personally. I'm farely new to all this but I can already tell, that keeping up with all these versions is pretty time consuming. But i'm liking it so far..
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Hi,
I don't know if it'll be possible but
Why all the coockers don't make a "JF updater" like ?
An apk able to track new version in the build directly ?
This way people who like haykuro, thedude, jf or cyanogen would stay up-to-date.
Just a suggestion...
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It would require that the makers of JF Updater release their source code and that the cooks know how to program and change the code to search and find the files. And they have to have a centralized place where their files come from... But it's definitively doable.
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I think that's an awesome idea, personally. I'm farely new to all this but I can already tell, that keeping up with all these versions is pretty time consuming. But i'm liking it so far..
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Coming from another HTC phone, keeping up with the different versions for the G1 is almost TOO easy. We need more cooks. I'd cook for it, if I could have some guidance getting started... I've taught people to cook for all kinds of HTC phones, but it was always Windows Mobile phones. With this phone, I don't feel like searching and searching and searching again from scratch to learn at a snails's pace. Especially since I'm so busy with work, school and life now a days. And I still cook for the Herald. I currently have about 3 different ROM in the works (6.1, 6.1 stripped to the bone and 6.5)
Wait... I'm talking too much.
Will the EVO 4G hardware be close enough to the HD2 for it to help the Android on HTC project to put Android on the HD2? Any thoughts?
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Will the EVO 4G hardware be close enough to the HD2 for it to help the Android on HTC project to put Android on the HD2? Any thoughts?
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Most likely.... If the interest is their, someone will build it.
ahh yes.
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Will the EVO 4G hardware be close enough to the HD2 for it to help the Android on HTC project to put Android on the HD2? Any thoughts?
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indeed thats the question we are all waiting for the answer to..
lets hope it helps..
An interesting concept, there are those that are asking if Windows Phone7 is going to work with the HTC HD2 as well. Be nice if we could choose either. The HD2 is a lovely piece of kit.
when is the evo actually out? nobody got a whiff of a leaked rom?
got an hd2 myself, would love to get android
work it will not
incompatible the drivers will be
hmmm... porting winmo gsm radio driver to android, much trouble it will be.
impossible it is not, but long journey I see for you.
johnsongrantr said:
work it will not
incompatible the drivers will be
hmmm... porting winmo gsm radio driver to android, much trouble it will be.
impossible it is not, but long journey I see for you.
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yes, yoda.
johnsongrantr said:
work it will not
incompatible the drivers will be
hmmm... porting winmo gsm radio driver to android, much trouble it will be.
impossible it is not, but long journey I see for you.
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Suddenly I can hear Yodas voice as I am reading this........
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Suddenly I can hear Yodas voice as I am reading this........
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Joke you did get, much funny it was.
Complete my goal is
May the force be with you
I'm not so sure about this....
With the Evo not coming to UK waters and no other screen size planned this side of the pond the ROM on the HD2 may well be the only answer.
However, lets not forget.. the Evo has a lot inside which will be different to the HD2 and these short comings won't make the HD2 an Evo in disguise.
It may end up being a sheep in wolf's clothing.
I don't think you'll see it because of driver issues but if enough people want it anything is possible.
Aridon said:
I don't think you'll see it because of driver issues but if enough people want it anything is possible.
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More like, if the right person wants it.
same processor ... different board... no go
need hlevel eprom acess ... not posible software wise
Heres my 2 cents. If they already managed to port android for iphone then hell yeah its gonna happen. who would have thought that the iphone was gonna get android.
Lobo Lansky said:
Heres my 2 cents. If they already managed to port android for iphone then hell yeah its gonna happen. who would have thought that the iphone was gonna get android.
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they dont have android on the iphone it is a theme
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they dont have android on the iphone it is a theme
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No its android dualbooted
http://www.neverknowtech.com/home/2010/4/25/how-to-put-android-on-your-iphone-with-video.html
XAnimal said:
No its android dualbooted
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Not to mention that the iPhone doesn't support themes.
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Not to mention that the iPhone doesn't support themes.
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Tell that to Winterboard and AndroidLock. But yes, theming isn't supported natively.
However the iPhone port of Android is an actual native port, loaded using OpeniBoot, a custom "iBoot"-style bootloader. And you thought the HTCSPL system was tricky...
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johnsongrantr said:
work it will not
incompatible the drivers will be
hmmm... porting winmo gsm radio driver to android, much trouble it will be.
impossible it is not, but long journey I see for you.
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Belated, but May the Fourth be with you.
I find it quite unlikely. Developers are still trying to get Android EMULATED, not installed, on the Touch Pro, and that version still suffers from poor battery life and frequent errors.
You can't just drag and drop ROMS from completely different operating systems onto different phones; otherwise, all phones would be sold without an OS installed.
The two phones may be similar in regards to features, but the insides are completely different. For example, the Evo has a maXTouch sensor, while the HD2 does not. So, while you may be able to get Android emulated on the HD2, it doesn't look like it's going to be very possible to transform it into an Evo by giving it the latter's ROM.
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I find it quite unlikely. Developers are still trying to get Android EMULATED, not installed, on the Touch Pro, and that version still suffers from poor battery life and frequent errors.
You can't just drag and drop ROMS from completely different operating systems onto different phones; otherwise, all phones would be sold without an OS installed.
The two phones may be similar in regards to features, but the insides are completely different. For example, the Evo has a maXTouch sensor, while the HD2 does not. So, while you may be able to get Android emulated on the HD2, it doesn't look like it's going to be very possible to transform it into an Evo by giving it the latter's ROM.
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Since i've got android on my Sprint Vogue, i'd say it's possible if the right people want it to happen.
Hey all. I'm new to the HD2 but not to android. I'm sure you've all seen the MIUI rom for desire and nexus. (if you haven't go here - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Or-9T44Bt7M&feature=player_embedded
To clarify :"It appears that the ROM has been mostly custom built using only the base from Android 2.2 and then building an exceptional interface on top that could beat anything else that currently exists.
From full FM radio support to completely customizable home screens, dedicated buttons on the lock screen that take you to the SMS app and the phone dialer."
Since its fore the desire/nexus, It should be an easy port to the HD2, I just need halp
I'm sure most of us would love to see this implemented on the HD2. I thought I could do it myself, but I've tried and failed. Below are two links. One for the full rom and the other is a link to the system.ext2 image I made from the /system folder of the ROM. I've tried a couple of different kernel combinations and still can't get it to boot (replaced the system.ext2 in shubcraft with the one I made and it just reboots). I don't yet know enough about android on the hd2 to get this working myself. So I figured I'd start a thread and see where we can get.
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http://fromhindsight.com/crap/system.ext2 -obviously the system.ext2 file I made.
http://fromhindsight.com/crap/miui-n1-0.9.20.zip - Link to the untouched nexus version of the rom.
http://fromhindsight.com/crap/system-english.zip System folder dump from the english port. Thanks to Kingxklick92
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Seems like the hd2 has quite the community following. I'm looking forward to working with you guys
UPDATE: 9-24-2010 : We do have a working test build that is being given out to a few folks. No ETA on a alpha or beta release. Hopefully this weekend. I'm tonight and tomorrow so I'll squeeze in some android time when I can. SARCASTILLO (guy who made hyperdroid) gets the credit for getting this thing booting. To see what we have in action go here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7x_6cuHM8g
Hey there biff, did you finally trade in the slide for an HD2? If so, im glad to see you over here now.
P.S. The music in the video makes me want to run up a big flight of stairs and air punch at the top.
i love the idea of "endles" possibilities when it comes to UI for a single phone and i hope you are succesful in porting this for HD2, but i HAVE to say
iOS UI on Android? YUCK *puke*
bbezja1 said:
i love the idea of "endles" possibilities when it comes to UI for a single phone and i hope you are succesful in porting this for HD2, but i HAVE to say
iOS UI on Android? YUCK *puke*
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its not iOS. I wouldn't dream of posting such a thing.
motoman234 said:
Hey there biff, did you finally trade in the slide for an HD2? If so, im glad to see you over here now.
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I did trade. So glad i did. Back on topic now lol.
LOL that's a fast hand on the video.
Let's have a duel
I like the speed of the UI, if it's real..
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I did trade. So glad i did. Back on topic now lol.
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Nice to hear that ! We always lack people like you, however the few Hd2 build developers have magic hands.
Maybe you already know that, but I suggest you to contact them directly for this great project because Hd2 is a very popular phone, so this forum is 99.9% populated by end-users. At the begining kernel developers tried to work into xda forums, but deserted for the Htc-linux Irc because of noise.
This would be so awesome!!!! DEVS, plz plz plz look at this !!
personally i'd love to see this ported! would be something... different!
I'm looking forward to it too. Looks interesting.
I rather run the actual os then the ui
I would definitly try the real OS if it would be possible cool to have all those OS es hehe
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I rather run the actual os then the ui
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To clarify, this is the android OS....
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To clarify, this is the android OS....
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he ment iOS
not iOS4 though
It looks nothing like the iOs nor IphoneOS nor firmware 4.0. Some people are here just to make a crowd. Anyway, to the OP, this is great. try to contact DarkSt0ne, Mattc, Dan1j3l. they could help. or, on twitter, contact the htc_linux guys. Hope you can make it and if you base it on the new Desire HD Rom, and include some other languages like japanese, your rom will be one of the greatest. Thank you and good luck
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Hope you can make it and if you base it on the new Desire HD Rom, and include some other languages like japanese, your rom will be one of the greatest. Thank you and good luck
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He meant the Dutch language.
infinitybiff said:
Hey all. I'm new to the HD2 but not to android. I'm sure you've all seen the MUI rom for desire and nexus. (if you haven't go here - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Or-9T44Bt7M&feature=player_embedded
To clarify :"It appears that the ROM has been mostly custom built using only the base from Android 2.2 and then building an exceptional interface on top that could beat anything else that currently exists.
From full FM radio support to completely customizable home screens, dedicated buttons on the lock screen that take you to the SMS app and the phone dialer."
Since its fore the desire/nexus, It should be an easy port to the HD2, I just need halp
I'm sure most of us would love to see this implemented on the HD2. I thought I could do it myself, but I've tried and failed. Below are two links. One for the full rom and the other is a link to the system.ext2 image I made from the /system folder of the ROM. I've tried a couple of different kernel combinations and still can't get it to boot (replaced the system.ext2 in shubcraft with the one I made and it just reboots). I don't yet know enough about android on the hd2 to get this working myself. So I figured I'd start a thread and see where we can get.
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http://fromhindsight.com/crap/system.ext2 -obviously the system.ext2 file I made.
http://fromhindsight.com/crap/miui-n1-0.9.20.zip - Link to the untouched nexus version of the rom.
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Seems like the hd2 has quite the community following. I'm looking forward to working with you guys
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I've been able to create a booting system...
but I don't have a signal... must be the libs or something...
wifi works and the ui is iOs-ish
some of the pop-ups and menus are in chinese so I'm not sure what I'm doing sometimes...
will post something as soon as I get the signal working. and camera... and etc....
Thanks pongster looking forward to the release when ever it is!
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App
cruise284 said:
Thanks pongster looking forward to the release when ever it is!
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App
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not sure it'll be anytime soon.. just tried making it boot to play with....
looks like its an odexed system (will try to deodex) and using a heavily tweaked launcher ui... pretty sweet... includes google pinyin support OOTB (of course)
can anybody port the 3.0 honeycomb version to our beloved Hero?
they did it to the G1/Magic, here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-RKEHfOwnSI&feature=player_embedded
any hope??
If there is a port to G1/Magic I guess that is possible a port to Hero..
RubenFreitas said:
If there is a port to G1/Magic I guess that is possible a port to Hero..
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there is a port, in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=936874
hiato said:
there is a port, in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=936874
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is this port working on hero ?
I would say try it.
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I would say try it.
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yea, let us know
it's certainly buildable for the hero - but most hardware will be broken I would imagine.
Sitting here, playing with an ugly port of the sdk, the first images,most just to remove my pin code so I can get into the system
yes elelinux!
do you think when the sources get released you would have much chance of building a full (or near full) working honeycomb rom?
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yes elelinux!
do you think when the sources get released you would have much chance of building a full (or near full) working honeycomb rom?
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I think it's possible, but it will not be easy. Especially because Honeycomb is made for tablets... and not for our phones.
If it's built from SDK I bet that almost none of the hardware is working...
mljjlm said:
If it's built from SDK I bet that almost none of the hardware is working...
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That is correct, but strangely all the backlighting of the buttons etc worked out of the box, buttons it is easy to fix if you want.
Just a little test for fun nothing else, also saw that there was support for mdpi so theoretically it could be working on Hero with some manual intervention.
Another thing to, boot up without problems
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That is correct, but strangely all the backlighting of the buttons etc worked out of the box, buttons it is easy to fix if you want.
Just a little test for fun nothing else, also saw that there was support for mdpi so theoretically it could be working on Hero with some manual intervention.
Another thing to, boot up without problems
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Wow, please make a rom for us to play with please. I cant believe the G1 has one and we dont.
maybe we are are asking too much on our hero....
but hey if it'll work then we shall have it
SENT FROM MY HTC HERO running GINGERBREAD by elelinux
elliotn said:
maybe we are are asking too much on our hero....
but hey if it'll work then we shall have it
SENT FROM MY HTC HERO running GINGERBREAD by elelinux
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????
the G1 is already running it!!!
hiato said:
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the G1 is already running it!!!
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Yes but hardly anything is working! Even the Nexus one has no audio,wifi,bluetooth,calls!
Yes, it is foolish to ask for a ROM that's meant to run on tablets to be made for phones. But I never have never said and never will say no to a new ROM...
Sent from my Hero using XDA App
Yes it's going to run like ass and our screens won't do any good either.
But... as always, I'm eager to see what crazy stuff the ROM-people come up with.
but the sdk version includes some feature of switching from tablet to mobile mode by simply changing resolution... they won't have included it if it wasn't meant to be run on mobiles, and in 3.1, mobile (2.x) and tablet (3.0) development lines shall be joined (says wikipedia lol). moreover, lots of people out here said it would be impossible to run 2.2 and 2.3 on hero, and right now i'm looking at my rooted android 2.3 hero which is incredibly smooth and stable (way better than with stock os). so why shouldn't it be possible? ele just said even backlight of the buttons worked out of the box, which was not case in 2.x. i'm still believing in our developers (although i can't code well enough to support them ) and i'm sure they'll do some magic
greets, Summoner
Do you really use wikipedia for truths? Anyone can add to Wiki?!
no i don't... i just think it sounds possible... otherwise, there would be two future development lines which the consequence would be that there were VERY different features depending where more / the better devs work on lol^^
i didn't claim it was the absolute truth, otherwise i wouldn't have explicitly said it came from wiki ...
greets Summoner