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s200 won't boot into windows anymore

hi,
i recently wanted to simply restart my qtek s200 (g3), it stops at the blue windows mobile boot screen and just hangs and does nothing (i've waited for hours).
I am not using any mods, simply the original rom/software. The only thing extra installed is 3rd party software and the home screen from the new htc touch (i've have been using it for some time now, and yes, i have been able to reboot several times during that period).
I have no idea why it isn't working anymore since I have been using it in an ordinary fashion and have not installed any software lately...
What I have tried so far:
- soft reset
- removing battery, sd card, sim card
- hard reset is impossible due to the fact that my comm button no longer functions.
Any ideas how I can get this phone to boot in windows again?
If there is no "normal" way, then a hard reset would also work for me as the phone contains no important data.
Let me know if you need more info.
Thanks!

thierry86 said:
hi,
i recently wanted to simply restart my qtek s200 (g3), it stops at the blue windows mobile boot screen and just hangs and does nothing (i've waited for hours).
I am not using any mods, simply the original rom/software. The only thing extra installed is 3rd party software and the home screen from the new htc touch (i've have been using it for some time now, and yes, i have been able to reboot several times during that period).
I have no idea why it isn't working anymore since I have been using it in an ordinary fashion and have not installed any software lately...
What I have tried so far:
- soft reset
- removing battery, sd card, sim card
- hard reset is impossible due to the fact that my comm button no longer functions.
Any ideas how I can get this phone to boot in windows again?
If there is no "normal" way, then a hard reset would also work for me as the phone contains no important data.
Let me know if you need more info.
Thanks!
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Since no hard reset is available... try removing the battery for the whole night.
If you do manage to get to windows then watch out for the startup folder, you're probably overloading the memory at startup.(htc home and psxut eat a lot at startup and windows as well)

i have removed the battery, sim and sd, and just left it there the whole night, but it still won't go further than the windows boot screen...
any suggestions ?
is is possible to do a hard reset by connecting it to usb and enter the bootloader somehow ? if yes, how ?
thanks!

hi,
have you tryed entering bootloader by the normal process?
"Hold down the camera button and reset the device. (Boot Loader Mode is: Press Camera + Soft Reset, then release soft reset and keep pressing camera button till appear the Boot Loader.)"
regards

yes, I can get into the bootloader, I can then also connect with USB with a notification at the bottom of the screen saying it's connected. However, I have no idea what to do afterwards ...

thierry86 said:
yes, I can get into the bootloader, I can then also connect with USB with a notification at the bottom of the screen saying it's connected. However, I have no idea what to do afterwards ...
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Okay then there is still hope.. When you have connected the device run an opdate tool like the NVID WM5 Rom.. that should work as a hard reset..

are there any working links available for this ? rapidshare seems to have disabled this...
thanks!

thierry86 said:
yes, I can get into the bootloader, I can then also connect with USB with a notification at the bottom of the screen saying it's connected. However, I have no idea what to do afterwards ...
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As long as you are able to enter bootloader then you can flash it with any old prophet rom. I had the same issue after installing WM6 rom. I used a Spanish rom on wiki to bring it back and then installed WM6 VII touch. So far it has worked well for a week.

HTC 6tab Home screen killed my 818pro!!!!!!
Here is what happened a few days back. My 818pro (aka prophet) suddenly heat up while not in use 3 days ago. I thought it was caused by the hot weather in my country (I was driving with aircond in full blast). The heating up eventually go away. Then 2 day later, after I put down a call, my phone just frozen / hung. Hence, I do a soft reset & guess what It never recovered & stop at the black screen with the dopod logo while restarting. Some service centre I visited told me that the main memory chip need replacement & reflash!!! I can't even see the window screen. I have use the HTC 6tab for 2 months & I am very sure it's the culprit here. Hopefully you are not having the same problem like me
Try plug in the ac charger before u do soft reset. My phone need it in order to restart after soft reset (after I started using the HTC 6tab Home Screen).
That is before my phone die yesterday

Blank / White screen but everything else works

After upgrading to WM6, every works perfectly. But then, it seemed randomly, the display is blank/ all white, but I can the phone is still functioning, because i can tap on the screen and get the tap sound. Soft reset and hard reset doesn't work. I'm doing the hard reset blindingly since the display is showing nothing, guessing the key push (i pressed record-camera 3x then mail button). I'm pretty sure it did the reset because after about 30 secs I get the beep that comes on when the screen is showing Tap to setup your device.
I figured it might be a loose lcd cable, but if go into the bootloader, power+record+reset. The display works fine! Showing Serial V 2.07.
I took apart the BA anyways and made sure the lcd cable is firmly attached. It didn't work.
Sometimes the phone would go back to normal randomly, or if I let the backup battery drain, but not always. When it goes back to normal, the clock is always reset to 2004 12:00 AM.
Can anyone help me? Is it possible to have a loose LCD connector which won't be able to show normal display, but can show the bootloader normally? Or is it caused by something else?
Here are other things about my BA that may or may not be related to the problem:
-Can't use DOC_Repart to resize storage, I'm getting the FL_IOCTL_FORMAT_PHYSICAL_DRIVE failed as described here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=255585
-When upgrading the upgrade program can't detect my current OS version (showing blank under "Your device is about to be update from:"), but otherwise the upgrade works fine.
-I tried Helmi R0, PDA Viet , and xplode's 6.00 roms. They all give me the same problem
Thanks.

I am also experiencing the same issue... currently phone is at white scren, but using My Mobiler i can see my desktop and see that the phone is fully functional, just white screen so cant use...

Mine too. I can see the display working perfectly using SOTI pocket controller pro. So the phone seems to be functioning except for some reason the screen is showing all white screen.
cubangt, are using an extended battery or the standard battery that comes with the phone?

Have you tried flashing with a different rom??

Sorry, I fear my message won't be useful at all for you, but I'll post it just for the record. I hope you can find the solution to your problem anyway!
My BA now can't show anything but a white screen because of what I think is damage to the screen cable (while sliding the display the backlight goes on and off...).
But the cable is not loosely connected, it is sort of strongly bent at one point, and maybe some contacts got kind of cut. Now it does not work anymore, but some time ago switching it off and the on again used to do the trick: the display would be readable again (even though with annoying colours, stripes and so on). I don't think this is your case, but I'd like to warn the newbies like myself that they should care not to lose any piece while changing the LCD on their BA: I think I probably forgot about some sort of protection which could avoid damages to the cable in its movement.
As for the missing version number when upgrading, the same has always happened to me.. I think.
Ok, sorry for my English, I would have had some troubles with exposing these few silly things even in my mother tongue... bye... and good luck.

I tried 3 different WM6 roms. And if I remembered correctly this also problem also occurred for a brief while I downgraded to WM2003SE while trying to resize the storage(which failed).
Yeah I'm not sure if mine is a hardware problem, since I can always go into the bootloader and the display works fine there.
I have new info to add though. I found out I can reliably get rid of the problem by draining the backup battery. Now I have a new question, since draining the battery takes a while, is there a way to reset the phone as if the backup battery is emptied (and return my display to normal)? If I can find a way to simulate this, then I can actually use my phone again, even if I have to do this once a day.
Obviously soft reset doesn't work. And I don't wanna do a hard reset either. Maybe the experts here now what kind of data is reset when all batteries are completely drained.
Thanks for the help

hmmmm
quick thinking.....i was working on my phone tonight and came across this thread.....if not grounded properly it could be that you statically fried a component in the process?

s200 strange freezing and range problem, please help

Hello
I have a strange problem with my Qtek S200.
When I turn it on without the SIM card, and leave it simply, or eventually do something in the menu for a short time it works fine.
Problems start when i try to do something more concrete - for example browse the web via WIFI or even start the camera. Firstly for a few minutes it is working normally, then starts working slow and after that the display goes white and freezes, or restarts. After the restart the device won't turn on, or will crash soon, eventually the display will go white again - on one of the starting screens. When I wait some time (about 15min) the device will start again normally and everything is fine, as long as I won't start doing something on it.
When the device is turned on with the SIM card, sometimes it gets the range, sometimes not, even if it will catch it, after some time it will loose it again, or the device will freeze
I tried to hard reset the device, with no results.
I will by very greateful for help

I think it may be related to the ROM you are using. I suggest trying a different ROM, or maybe just reflashing the ROM you currently have.

Thanks for reply.
I tried to flash the ROM with the instructions on this forum, and started from HardSPL, but when I accept running the program JumpSPL on the device the screen goes white and ActiveSync looses connection - device crashes.
How I can deal with this?

The device should go into Bootloader (it will show a white screen because of the jump SPL) just continue with it, and when the HardSPL upgrader says it is complete, you should be able to flash a new ROM.

Hermes wont boot - 4 color bars - help please

Hello everyone. After some researching, this seemed like the best site to answer my question, as I have not found an answer yet.
Yesterday morning, I was running my ATT 8525 (which I believe you refer to as "hermes") just fine. I was using the internet sharing feature, and went to reset the phone. I "believe" I pressed the power button while pressing the "ptt- push to talk" - button. The phone turned off, and when I turned the phone back on, rather than loading like it normally did, I got a new screen.
The screen has 4 color bars. A red bar at the top, then a green bar, then a blue bar, and last, a white bar of color on the bottom. Each bar takes up 1/4 of the screen and runs horizontally. At the top, the phone says, in white text:
HERM100
1PL-1.04
HERM100
SPL-2.03
At the bottom of the screen, in the white bar of color, in black text, it says
SERIAL
Now, when I press the power button to turn the phone off, nothing happens. I have to remove the battery to shut off the power. If I plug in a USB cable, the SERIAL text changes to USB. If I press the top two buttons, the one above window and the one above ok, while pressing the stick in to reset the phone, that screen works ok. I believe it is called a "hard reset" It asks if I want to erase all data and restore factory settings, and if so, press r. I press R on the keyboard, and the screen then says reset complete, press space. I press space and then I am back to the screen with 4 color bars. Nothing else I have tried works either. I have been stuck on this screen with 4 color bars since yesterday.
I took my cell phone in to ATT to be looked at and the sales people at the store say that I am 7 days past my warranty, and that they can't/won't repair the phone, but they would be happy to sell me a brand new one... for several hundred dollars.
So, the folks on the internet are my last hope =( If anyone reading this knows anything, even if it is a link to another site or something, that may help me resolve this problem, I would greatly appreciate it. If not, I at least thank you for your time reading my post.
- Wormling

Oh, as an additional thought, if it helps, I have not used any of these :baked: roms or any such thing. I bought my phone and used it as is. The one and only change I ever did to my phone was I followed ATT's steps on upgrading from Windows Mobile 5 to Windows Mobile 6, if I remember their names correctly. Hope this helps.

Bootloader. This is the name of the screen according to my research.
"Is your device able to boot Windows Mobile OS?
This one is easy: If can you see your today screen and use your phone as a PDA means you can boot OS. If you only see the splash screen, bootloader screen (tri-color) or windows mobile splash screen you can't boot OS."
Got this from the thread at
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_Unbrick
So, I guess I am stuck at the bootloader screen.

Try a Hard reset - hold both soft keys and reset with stylus. Hold in until it asks to reset to factory (whatever). Press "r" on the slideout keyboard and then space. You should go back throught the setup PPC steps.
YOU WILL LOOSE ALL INFORMATION ON YOUR HERMES...This is unescapable as you would any other way you tried to recover your Hermes too.
I suggest if you get it working to install Hard SPL V7 (makes recovery easier) and also pim backup so you can restore all your contacts/messages if something goes wrong again.
Cheers... & good luck.

I have tried hard resetting many times, and it does not work. It says that it succeeds and that factory settings have been restored, and then I am back to the bootloader screen. I have been to the wiki on bricked hermes phones and recovering from a brick. From that, I ascertain I have a type 2 bricked phone (goes directly to bootloader screen). I tried the MTTY tool, and it says that the NAND write was successful on both commands, but, I am still stuck at bootloader screen. I have since tried installing a few different roms, even in SSLL and HARDSPL modes, and nothing has worked.
What I have not tried is the JPIN fix, as I am not an engineer and don't have the tools or knowledge on how to do that. I also don't know how to do the microsoft operating system download fix (using an emulator?)
** UPDATE **
I think it might have been the mtty commands, but I took the battery out overnight, and when I put the battery back in to try the KITL attempt, the phone booted up and started to do the config. I was happy and thought that the phone was fixed, but when it was done with the configurating the phone, it reset back into boot loader screen -_-

You may need to check for bad blocks. This sometimes causes the problems you descibe as well as spontaneous Hard Resets and occasional soft resets.
Do a search for "how to fix bad blocks hermes" and you should get the info you need...
Hope this helps...

Please HELP!!

Hi Guys,
My touch screen and LCD screen NOt working! Phone Switches ON and comes to standby mode. (i hear all the booting dings and dong melodies)
I neeed to take a backup of my device. to do so i thought i'll use my mobiler and see the phone screen through the PC! unfortunately the last time i used i used the phone as the 'storage device' option. so every time i connec the phone to the pc windows open up my phone's storage card.
Is there a possibility i can change this back to active sync without using the phone's screen.
Or are there any other suggestions for me to take a full backup??

This might be overly complicated but all I can think of at the moment is to write a mortscript or something similar, stick on on your SD card and create an autorun on the card to run the script when it's inserted. The script could change the registry key associated with activesync/usb storage when the device is connected.
Yagetme?

You might be able to get it to work if you do a hard reset or perhaps flash another rom, as if I remember correctly, the default connection setting is set to Activesync.
However, if you're planning to solve the touchscreen, LCD problem, try to flash another rom. If that doesn't work, maybe it's a ribbon connection problem? I had a problem similar to this on my Diamond.

well, atm i see alot of ppl haveing problem with the display, dunno why this happens but it does.
my display turns black sometimes, to get it back working i turn out the battery for 10 seks, put it in again, and try to turn device on till it works. i will bring it to the service.
a hardreset won't help u, because ur data will be lost after hard reset.