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Now I have been looking for 2 days on this forum, and I cant find it anywhere!!
Okay, I would like to be in my bed with my PDA, and surf the internet.
I dont have a Bluetooth dongle my self, by the guy next to me has. And I have permision to use his internet connection. (Less than 10 meters away, it about 3-4 meters).
So one problem is that I cant use the BT Active Sync, to surf the internet (I dont know if this is how it is done), like you can surf while the XdaII is in the cradel.
So I have been surfing around, and I think I need the WidComm BT stack to be able to surf the internet over BT. But how is this done. I have downloadet files, and read alot on this forum, but I cant seem to find any install guide those cab files and other thing to the PDA.
And then I have read about alot of users that has had problems with the WidComm stack, and say that the M$ BT stack can do the same in the latest update, but I cant find the settings, it all looks the same.
So if any one can help a XdaII (or PDA) newbee, with an install guide and some of your sugestions for the networking, then I would be realy happy.
BTW, if you also know how to set up an audio gateway on the PDA (for my head set) then that wold be great as well. And maby to get the button on the headset to do M$ voice command (if you have it install), then that would be fantastic.
Try downloading bluetooth tools and see if that works for you.
http://bluetooth.i-networx.de/index_e.html
I did that, but it did not change to much, it only gave me a "call last number" function in the head set, but not any thing with the network
BT and COM
i am having a hard time with it as well, I have win XP pro, and a sitecom USB BT dongle, the drivers for the dongle dont seem to work, it is has if the XP drivers have taken over, all the guides seem to use settings that are not available to the Windows XP BT drivers,
at one point i thought i got it, instead of connecting my XDA to the PC i did it the other way about. This time windows detected and setup some COM ports, although at the moment its at com 13 and 14
(this can be changed by doing to Device manager, selecting the port, properties, advanced, and changing it to whatever you want, it will say the port is in use, but none of the other ports 1-12 are infact in use (although it says they are) not sure if this will generate further problems?
So i think thats the PC side sorted?
now the PDA side, just before i updated PPC2003 i tried this and it didnt work, i then installed those BT tools and it came up with the cool servies page right at the end of setting up a link.
But didn't work, with hindsight i believe it would work if i had connect as i explained above, adding the XDA to the PC.
I then updated PPC2003 useing o2's updater.
setting up a link using the BT settings right after the update did have some extra settings to do with com ports but it still doesnt work and the connect via BT on activesync isnt there.
Then i tried those BT tools everyone is going on about
i get the BT icons on the desktop but thats it, nothing else happens. The cool services screen fails to pop up after setting the link and the connect via BT in sync is also missing.
this might be of no use but at one point useing standard drivers from XP and PPC2003 SP1 i did get a message saying it couldnt connect because it might not be a smart phone or PPC or somthing like that. im totally stuffed with this.
oh it does connect in that i can transfer files TO the XDA but not the other way about.
Hello folks!
This is how I've done it...
1- I installed Widcomm version 1.3.2.7 (on the PC) (BTW I use a Cheap-o-Epox USB dongle)
2- I Downloaded BT Tools (http://bluetooth.i-networx.de/index_e.html)
3- I established an Activesync connection through Bluetooth (this is done on the PocketPC by using the Activesync/Tools/Connect via 'computername')
4- I configured Widcomm to always trust the incoming MDA2 Bluetooth connection.
5- That's it, works every time... (well actually sometimes works on the second try but works nonetheless)
Good luck!
Rayan
I've also had some success with the Widcomm stack, but I have one problem.
In order for the bluetooth connection to work, I need to log into an account on the XP machine. If someone else then comes along and logs into another account, then my bluetooth connection is dropped. Also, if I don't log into an account, then I can't use bluetooth.
Basically, it seems to be the case that instead of running as a service, the bluetooth stack is running in user accounts. Anyone else got experience with this? Is there a way to configure the installation so that it runs as a service?
Hi Guys,
I have a similar question... is there a release due / tools available to fully utulise the bluetooth stack like the ipaqs for example. Ipaqs can locate and connect to devices as a 'hunter' but the XdaII just seems to be the 'hunted' when it comes to establishing a connection. Is there any way to make my otherwise excellent XdaII a bit more agressive when it comes to seeking out bluetooth connections??? I have already installed the Bluetooth tools v1.01 but this doesn't help the actual 'seeking' connectivity part of things
Can any of you bright sparks out there help ???? If enough people wanted this functionality, what would it cost to develop if it is not available maybe ???
just a thought. Cheers all.
AndyG
Technoas said:
Now I have been looking for 2 days on this forum, and I cant find it anywhere!!
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So I have been surfing around, and I think I need the WidComm BT stack to be able to surf the internet over BT. But how is this done. I have downloadet files, and read alot on this forum, but I cant seem to find any install guide those cab files and other thing to the PDA.
So if any one can help a XdaII (or PDA) newbee, with an install guide and some of your sugestions for the networking, then I would be realy happy.
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I found the answer to how to install the .cab file, just copy it to your device and select it in file manager, it then install's itself.
If I manage to connect my GTek 2020 to my BT AP with this I'll let you know!
Hi.
I have Orange SPV M1000.
I have tried to get it bonded to a Logitech diNovo keyboard on my PC.
By trying to add it to Settings | Connections | Connections | Advanced | Select Networks | New (internet) | New | (a name : abc, a modem: bluetooth) Next | New... | My_PCs_Name | Next | Name: my_pcs_name |Finish
Then the pops 2 requesters up
1.) This bluetooth device supports Serial port profile, would you like to create a Bluetooth serial port for it? (My answer: both yes or no)
2.) This bluetooth device supports headset profile, would you like to set it as your bluetooth headset? (My answer : No)
I have tried this when Connections | Bluetooth | was set to both "Discoverable" and "On"
but apparantly to no avail.
What I would have liked to work was:
1.) bluetooth activesync
2.) browsing via bluetooth from my PC's connections
3.) filetransfer via bluetooth (might go under activesync)
But I seem unable to get it to work.
Does anyonw have some ideas for this.
Thank you in advance.
Best regards: Jacob Eskildsen / eskildsen
there is no one around here seems to know this
i have been trying to do the exact thing for a few days now, had no joy at all.
there is not even one person using this kind of connection? or just do bother to tell.
I can make PC side working. Internet Connection Sharing bit, and I can even PING my PC from XDAII.
can somebody here help. if you really did this yourself
activesync and internet through bt
I just got activesync and internet working through bt . But I'm not sure how I did it . I have no extra bt software on my phone. I have a usb BT dongle (MSI) and I paired both of the devices. In all the settings I made sure internet sharing was allowed, on the BT network. In activesync in options - rules Pass through is ticked with connection to internet.
On the XDA started activesync through bt and my computer accepted it, and started to sync, the internet then started to work. i think active sync needs to be on for internet to work.
I don't really know the precise instructions, wish I did because i've just lost the connection again, and it will most probably take me another hour to work it out. think this time I better write it down!!!
If you could sync via Bluetooth, then browsing and file transfer via Bluetooth are possible. I've been able to do all of them. Just make sure you choose the ActiveSync profile when you pair your Pocket PC with the Bluetooth device on your desktop PC. If the ActiveSync profile is not available, then choose the Serial Port profile. But afterwards, you would have to go to ActiveSync Connection Settings and manually select the serial port you created.
thanks for advice
I've been having problems, like many people. And I've did what they did. Downloaded bt tools and its working excellent : ). I'm writing this on my xda2, downstairs from my computer. I'm well chuffed. Thanks for your quick reply, it seems your using bt tools too.
Am I ever going to get the hang of this!! BT Activesync ???
I'm able to get Activesync and thus internet through BT, but if I stop bluetooth on my XDA2, and then turn it back on and try to sync, I get an error message, stating Port not available.
What going on? how do I make this port avaliable. I thought I could turn BT on and off without problems, is this not the case. Is my computer configured wrong?
Help!!
Replying to myself!!
OK my problem has been solved, I just turn the BT off and on on my computer.
But what I really want, is to be able to not have to change anysetting on my computer. I would like to be able to enter my house and connect to BT, and then turn it off if I want, and then back on, and then off, on ,off, on..... You get the gist, without have to go upstair to my computer each time.
:twisted:
Any ideas :?
Hi,
Take a look at the guides for bluetooth ActiveSync'ing....
HERE
Thanks
Thank you for that Darius, i'd seen that guide before but forgot where it was. It has helped me to get activesync going anyway. I have actually hard rebooted my XDA2 because my Jabra BT200 stopped working, actually the phone software also buggered up. would ring people but they coud not hear me. Think it may have been BT Tools :roll: Which is a shame, I liked the desktop icons it gave.
At this moment in time I am in the process of restoring my data to my phone over BT, Just hope the BT200, will still work, because before it worked excellent a 100% of the time.
Ive read quite a few threads talking about changing the BT stack, for a more reliable one, but I'm worried about mucking the XDA2 up more.
My next worry is that I've ordered a BT GPS reciever, and I'm gonna try to get Tom Tom working with it, I'm sure I'm gonna have to read quite a few more posts to sort that out. I thought I was good on computers, I think I will have to rethink that altogether.
Hi,
I'm trying to use my XDA2 to provide Internet Access (GPRS) via BT to my portable PC.
I'm using my PCs built-in Bluetooth-module (running on WIDCOMM 1.4.1 Build 6)
I have no problem synchronizing my XDA2 with Outlook using BT (since this is a connection initiated by the XDA2) but if I "browse" the services on my XDA2 from my PC I only get OBEX Object Push.
I know from previous occations that you should be able to see Serial Ports etc.
My XDA2 is running on the following version:
R: 1.06.01
G: 1337.16
D: 1.60.00WWE
And Pocket Bluetooth Tools
Can anyone tell me what to look for?
Thanx in advance
Frank.
You can try using the XDA II in the wireless modem mode... See your program files for this application. Works for me.
There's your problem... You need to uninstall Pocket Bluetooth Tools; it removes your SSA service (which you need for BT Wireless Modem)
Hmm I also do use the Bluetooth Tools so I doubt you need to remove this very handy app. ?
Hi.
Well, I had to hard-reset my PDA in order to remove Pocket Bluetooth Tools (PBT), so I don't know if it was the hard-reset or PBT that did the works, but now I get the SSA profile and can connect to it without any problems.
Unfortunatly I lost the option to sync my PDA via Bluetooth, since Active Sync cant find any ports. So I'll give PBT another try, otherwise I'll just use the FIR-port to sync.
Thank you for your help. I'll let you know how things work out, when I re-install PBT.
Best regard,
Frank.
What ROM you running? With the 1.72, you have the options of enablign outgoing and incoming COM ports in the settings menu (Start --> Settings --> Bluetooth Settings)
Before installing Bluetooth Tools, I've got: Serial, SSA, Object Push, and one more.
After installing: I've only got Serial and the other one that I cannot remember.
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For me, it was the Bluetooth Tools that was holding me back. I've emailed the author to see whether he can add the SSA port.
Update:
Well, first of all, I was thrilled to find out that I no longer have to start the Wireless Modem-app to use the GPRS-connection on my laptop. Apperantly a modem-emulator runs in the background, so my XDA2 stays fully functional while its forwarding GPRS traffic. (Though I think it's strange that theres no indication what-so-ever that the GPRS is in use - normally you get a different icon at the antenna)
Anyways, I installed the latest version af Pocket Bluetooth Tools (PBT). And the SSA-profile was still there and working. Then I paired my laptop using the ActiveSync profile in PBT - and wupti: Both the GPRS "dial-through"/SSA and ActiveSync is working - at the same time.
Now, all thats left is to pair it with my BT GPS receiver. Can't do it at moment since it's at home - I don't expect any problems with it though. Usually works without problems.
Thank you again for your input.
Frank.
hmm... that's awesome. I'll install Pocket Bluetooth again and see whether it works.
Can you answer these:
1. Which ROM you using (ie. O2 1.60)
2. Which version of Pocket Bluetooth Tools? 1.1.0.0?
Thanks... That's awesome news though. I love how it turns the Bluetooth on and off automatically.
WeatherB:
I'm using ROM 1.60.00WWE (QTek) and the latest version of PBT (1.1.0.0)
It works like a dream
I guess it's possible that Pocket Bluetooth is conflicting with 1.72
I know for a fact, that ver. 1.1.0.0 is conflicting with 1.72 - my friend tried to use this.
He then installed a previous version of PBT, but still can't see the SSA-profile, but the ActiveSync profile now works.
He will try to uninstall PBT and see if the SSA appears.
oh okay... I might have to downgrade to 1.60...
What's the main difference between 1.60 and 1.72?
WeatherB:
I just talked to my friend again. Seems I misunderstood him the first time. The reason he uses an older version of PBT is that with the new version his headset-profile is not supported.
Apparantly the biggest advantage of the 1.70 is the improved battery lifetime. He says he only charges his battery twice as often now. I'm sure there are other improvements - I just can't find 'em in the Upgrade 'n Modifying-forum right now.
I did the downgrade to 1.60 last night and I noticed something weird about PBT... After bonding with a device, you need to leave that last screen (the one that PBT created) unchecked and all will work fine.
Not sure if I tried this workaround with 1.72; but non-the-less, seems to be working. I did however lose the Audio Gateway after installing PBT. But no biggie, don't want to listen use my PDA as an audio gateway for my PC.
WeatherB:
Hmm. I checked the Active Sync-box, otherwise I couldn't connect via Active Sync over BT, since it wasn't in the menu.
But I don't remember if I paired it from the PDA or the PC. But everything works - also the GPS - so I guess it's simply a question on fidling with it.
Exactly... I'll play with it and see how to get the most out of it without messing it up.
Hi all I would like to get this application working but it does not look like the test application works on our XDA's?? :-( It is saying somthing about needing the WIDCOMM drivers.... Any idea if there is an esay and safe way to get this utility working?
Hear is the web address of where you can find the application:
http://www.buzzone.net/eng/index.html
Thanks guys
Just install the latest Widcomm PPCPE drivers in "Hacking It"
Thanks for the reply rahjinoh, I will give that a go, I did see somthing about Widcomm drivers but when i looked into that option it seemed very complicated and a number of people where having problems with the XDA II with it would I be correct in saying that?
I'm a little scared to install it if its going to cause me any problems as I use a Bluetooth GPS (with Destinator 3) as well as the O2 Bluetooth headset (The new one, works like a charm)... I use both these bluetooth devices on a daily basis and cant affort them to go down.
Any idea if I will run into any problems if I install this Widcomm driver?
How does it work?
Do I have 2 bluetooth drivers installed then? both MS and Widcomm?
Sorry for all the questions would like to try and find out if it is a simple process or if I could run into problems....
Many thanks!
The Widcomm works with everything EXCEPT headsets.
The GPS would work with Widcomm but not the O2 headset, not yet at least.
Both the stacks will coexists and you can turn on 1 at a time.
I use that stack as well, some people get the "Cannot initialise bluetooth hardware" once in a while, but mine's fine.
I used the Widcomm with Widcomm related software, otherwise, my MS Bluetooth stack is on most of the time.
I use the MS one for my Motorola Headset and Bluetooth GPS, and the Widcomm one for other purposes, like BuzzOne
just remember that you can only enable 1 stack at a time
thanks for the reply rahjinoh
This sounds like a lot of messing around unfortunatly, I wish bluetooth would come up with some starndards and stop stuffing around so much, its going to die in the long run if they don't I recon. I've read that the makers of bluetooth have not stoped any research and devolopment with the technology (Sony/Ericson) this does not seem to be a good step but I don't blame them really as the software side of things is a compleat MESS!!!
Is Microsoft going to be fixing up there drivers? or has the problems been fixed in the Newer Windows 2003 SE Phone Edition? (Which I hope is going to be comming out for our XDA II's some time soon??)...
Cheers!!!
Any more news any one? any ideas what I can do to get my Bluetooth GPS, Head Set and Software Programs to work with ease and no problems?
Still no news??? ANY ONE???
Has any one mannaged to find an easy way to get this program working as yet?
still no news or any ways to get this software working is there? I need a solution that will work with my Bluetooth GPS (and current software, Destinator 3), Bluetooth Headset as well as this program...
Any thoughts any one?
Might want to read this...
http://www.buzzone.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=12
Thanks for the reply Nighthawk...
I have seen that post before, but what I am worried about is that I've noticed that people on XDA-Forum has posted that you cannot use your Bluetooth Headset if you don't use the MS Stack? Is this correct?
I use a Bluetooth - GPS, Headset and software... Will I have any problems with these?
easiest way to configure internet bluetoothsharing
get widcom drivers from this site
http://forum.xda-developers.com/download.php?id=1436
then put all these files in your pocket pc windows main folder
\Windows.
go to file explorer of your pocket pc and extract these thre which you downloaded or run these files from your pocket pc..
now your bluetoth manager is installed. then just go to this site
and learn step by step to configure your pocket pc for intenet connection sharing with your desktop
http://en.pdamobiz.com/en/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=32&PN=1
i think its the easiest way to do in min not hours
best regards for all my brothers.
Thanks for the reply maani_ch, great advice, only 1 question... If I install these drivers. Do you know if I can still use my Bluetooth GPS with my Bluetooth Heatset at the same time as I do at the moment???
As well as both of them working of course!
CHEERS!
Good question Guest, thats exactualy what I would like to konw, I'm a little scared to install stuff on my XDA now days as in the past I've learned that sometimes things just stop working after installing some applications and it's hard to find out what it is (as it is normaly combinations of things)... As I use it for work it's hard to afford any down time with my phone...
Any answers to the previous questions as to how it would work with Bluetooth GPS and Bluetooth Head set at the same time?
SSA connection is problem...Can any 1 help with a solution?
I have a quetion! How can I remove the first bluetooth icon that I have?
eFiend said:
I have a quetion! How can I remove the first bluetooth icon that I have?
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HKLM\Services\BTIcon
"Dll"="BTIcon_Dll.dll"
change this in:
"Dll Disabled"="BTIcon_Dll.dll"
(thanks to Cyber_mate)
I have a problem with file transfer using bluetooth.
I recently unstalled the latest stock HTC WM6.5 rom for my Diamond 2.
Then I tried to add a A2DP headset to my laptop, and to do this had to install a new Broadcom BT driver to my laptop.
After loading the new BT driver to the laptop I had to re-pair my phones (the Diamond and a Samsung E2550 standard phone).
After re-pairing both phones I find I can transfer files from both phones to the laptop, and I can transfer files from the laptop to the Samsung.
However when I try to transfer files to the Daimond, I get an error on the laptop saying 'No Service'.
In the laptop BT 'Services' I notice that one of the services for the Samsung is 'File Transfer(Obex)', but this does not appear in the services list for the diamond.
Has anyone any ideas how I get this to work. How can I get 'File Transfer (Obex) working on the Diamond?
NOTE: File transfer worked on the Diamond before I upgraded the rom on the phone and the BT driver on the laptop.
2nd NOTE: File transfer between the Samsung and Diamond works OK - still not transferring from PC to Diamond though
Thanks.
Touch Tools
pewe said:
I have a problem with file transfer using bluetooth.
I recently unstalled the latest stock HTC WM6.5 rom for my Diamond 2.
Then I tried to add a A2DP headset to my laptop, and to do this had to install a new Broadcom BT driver to my laptop.
After loading the new BT driver to the laptop I had to re-pair my phones (the Diamond and a Samsung E2550 standard phone).
After re-pairing both phones I find I can transfer files from both phones to the laptop, and I can transfer files from the laptop to the Samsung.
However when I try to transfer files to the Daimond, I get an error on the laptop saying 'No Service'.
In the laptop BT 'Services' I notice that one of the services for the Samsung is 'File Transfer(Obex)', but this does not appear in the services list for the diamond.
Has anyone any ideas how I get this to work. How can I get 'File Transfer (Obex) working on the Diamond?
NOTE: File transfer worked on the Diamond before I upgraded the rom on the phone and the BT driver on the laptop.
2nd NOTE: File transfer between the Samsung and Diamond works OK - still not transferring from PC to Diamond though
Thanks.
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Touch Tools has an option to "Enable OBEX File Transfer Service":
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=683951
Would be nice to here about, if this works for you.
Thanks Braunie - but the problem is not with the enabling in the registry, the correct entry is already there
; Enable Bluetooth OBEX file transfer
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Obex]
"IsEnabled"=dword:00000001
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So the problem is more sinister than that.
So any assistance sorting this would be greatly appreciated.
It appears that the problem is not the phone - its the laptop.
To get an A2DP driver for my bluetooth headset I had to install the Widcomm bluetooth driver as A2DP is not supported in Win 7 or Acer blutooth drivers.
I uninstalled the widcomm driver and the standard Acer bluetooth driver works - I can transfer files to the phone again.
So I'm back to square one - use the standard driver and have no A2DP, or use Widcomm and lose the ability to transfer files to the phone.
pewe said:
It appears that the problem is not the phone - its the laptop.
To get an A2DP driver for my bluetooth headset I had to install the Widcomm bluetooth driver as A2DP is not supported in Win 7 or Acer blutooth drivers.
I uninstalled the widcomm driver and the standard Acer bluetooth driver works - I can transfer files to the phone again.
So I'm back to square one - use the standard driver and have no A2DP, or use Widcomm and lose the ability to transfer files to the phone.
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Live could be so easy if some software-developers would think a step further.
The main contender for problems appears to be Microsoft.
For some reason they have never bothered to tidy up their bluetooth drivers - even though they push both PC and Mobile versions of Windows. Another example is that I cannot connect to my HTC using Bluetooth in Windows Mobile Device Centre - even though I have set the bluetooth as enabled in WMDC.
From the posts on various forums etc it appears that a lot of people have similar problems to mine with A2DP, as well as other general issues with standard bluetooth drivers.
I will keep hunting around to try and find a bluetooth stack that resolves both my issues in one driver - don't hold out much hope though.
pewe said:
The main contender for problems appears to be Microsoft.
For some reason they have never bothered to tidy up their bluetooth drivers - even though they push both PC and Mobile versions of Windows. Another example is that I cannot connect to my HTC using Bluetooth in Windows Mobile Device Centre - even though I have set the bluetooth as enabled in WMDC.
From the posts on various forums etc it appears that a lot of people have similar problems to mine with A2DP, as well as other general issues with standard bluetooth drivers.
I will keep hunting around to try and find a bluetooth stack that resolves both my issues in one driver - don't hold out much hope though.
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With A2DP I have no experience. But I think Windows Mobile has still a better bluetooth-support than android or so. As example rSAP-support for the handsfree in my car works perfect. This means that my HTC TD2 automatically connects to my car, the radio of my TD2 will be disabled because the handsfree has its own. The phone-book will automatically synchronised with the handsfree.
By the way; the bluetooth-connection with activesync (WinXP) works with no problems for me.
Wish you good luck on your "quest" ...
But I think Windows Mobile has still a better bluetooth-support than android
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I have no problems with the mobile.
Bluetooth on the Diamond II recognises the A2DP headset, and other hands free headsets, pairs and sends files to the laptop and ends/recieves files from other phones - all good.
It appears to be a problem with Win 7 on the laptop which gives the grief.
I had no problem using bluetooth in Activesync on XP, the problems arose with the introduction of Windows Mobile Device Centre in Vista and Win7.
Wish you good luck on your "quest"
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Thanks.