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Going crazy with ActiveSync via bluetooth

Hi,
I've got problems tu configure my MDA2 to use ActiveSync via bluetooth.
Is somewhere a step-by-step instruction or can someone tell me, wich steps a necessary to establish this connenction ??
After I upgraded the rom and after about 20 hours trying, I was able to synchronize via bluetooth. Yesterday, I have to reset my device (complete) and installed everything again...but now, I'm not be able to get activesync via bluetooth working...
please help...
rob.

I was having difficulties as well. I wanted to Sync using Bluetooth because that way I can leave the unit in the leather case and just plug in a charge cable instead of cradling it.
I did the following:
In 'Settings/System/Bluetooth Settings' I pressed the start button underneath "Bluetooth ActiveSync Setup". I then paired with my PC. Then I could start ActiveSync on the device, and by selecting 'Tools/Connect via Bluetooth' it would connect. By setting it to not release the connect after it's done synchonising, I can even network over it.
However, after going to sleep and waking back up the connection is gone. Reconnecting won't work because something in the XDA still thinks it's connected, so it needs a soft-reset before connecting again.
This is on a device with ROM 1.52 though, will test on 1.60 later on. It's a pain that just pressing 'Sync' will not work, and that you have to manually select the option from the tools menu.

I'm not even able to start the connection to my PC.
When I use ActiveSync and say "Connect via Bluetooth" on the O2, it does nothing.
I'm able to use bluetooth to exchange files and that's barely all.
I have an ActiveSync profile in my bluetooth manager on the PC (WidCOMM stack) and can affect a COM Port but that's all...
Can anyone help ?

Hi,
@ Peter Poelman,
thankf for your reply. The way you described is exactly what I have done the last 2 days (about 500 times :shock: )
Now I know, where the problem was. I had the same behaviour like Murcielago. AciveSync did'd do anything, when I tryed to connect via bluetooth (of course, tha PDA and the PC were paired).
I remeber, as I set up the connection the first time (some weeks ago as it works), after pairing the device with the PC I got a messagebox on the PDA , which said that ActiveSync-Setup is now finished (or configured or something like that). I didn't get that yesterday.
I had installed a Bluetooth-GPS-Serial-Driver (from Towa) and it seems, that this one made the trouble. After I had removed the driver, the connection works great again. It seems, that removing the GPS-Driver is only necessary for the first setup of the connection...after the connection was made, I have installed the GPS-Driver again and now both works...
thanks a lot
rob.

I uninstalled the Towa patch this morning but nothing changes.
It's as if pressing Connect via bluetooth doesn't even answer.
When I try, connect via IR, I get a box telling me "Connecting to host".... but nothing like this with Connect via Bluetooth.
I really don't understand that ****ing bluetooth. It's not a intuitive technology.
I bought a WiFi module for my PC and I'll receive it today. I think I won't have to bother with that crazy bluetooth anymore.

The Towa patch is the culprit. It is not enough to uninstall it. You have to hard reset your device to really undo whatever it does. I had the same problems you describe. After a cold boot, I could successfully initiate the bluetooth active sync and I could then install the patch which worked and allowed the bluetooth sync (if the activesync cluetooth bond was created before installing the Towa patch). Now, however, I upgraded to the 1.60 ROM which fixes the bluetooth serial driver issue and no longer needs the Towa patch.
After all that work, I generally still sync in the cradle, because I like to charge the battery in the cradle. Go figure.
Panabax

hi,
I've the same problem,
when I try to connect trough bt I recive a popup saying "status: connecting to host".
I've an xda II with rom v. 1.52.00wwe and BT fix by towa.
Is anyone so gentle to send me (or post a link) the widcomm stack?
[email protected]
I hope it could resolve the problem.
thank you so much,
rubenio.

WOAAA TOWA
His last version of the bluetooth patch is incredible and activesync via bluetooth worked in less time then it took me to install the patch.
I now have ActiveSync via bluetooth and internet access via activesync.
Take it there : http://bluetooth.i-networx.de/index_e.html
I think he really did a tremendous job and the rest is coming (network access, etc...)

Can't get Bluetooth and Active Sync to work (1.60 ROM)
Hi !
I've also upgraded my device with the new 1.60 ROM, but I'cant get Bluetooth to work with active sync.
I've selected the "Inbound COM port 4" under Bluetooth Settings. After the device is bonded and I search for services my Logitech bluetooth device display the COM 4 serial port. But when I try to connect it display the following error: Could not establish connection with the remote device. I think it maybe is my settings on the PC.
Hope for some guidance :wink:
Panabax said:
The Towa patch is the culprit. It is not enough to uninstall it. You have to hard reset your device to really undo whatever it does. I had the same problems you describe. After a cold boot, I could successfully initiate the bluetooth active sync and I could then install the patch which worked and allowed the bluetooth sync (if the activesync cluetooth bond was created before installing the Towa patch). Now, however, I upgraded to the 1.60 ROM which fixes the bluetooth serial driver issue and no longer needs the Towa patch.
After all that work, I generally still sync in the cradle, because I like to charge the battery in the cradle. Go figure.
Panabax
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Newbee: How to install WidComm? And dose it work?

Now I have been looking for 2 days on this forum, and I cant find it anywhere!!
Okay, I would like to be in my bed with my PDA, and surf the internet.
I dont have a Bluetooth dongle my self, by the guy next to me has. And I have permision to use his internet connection. (Less than 10 meters away, it about 3-4 meters).
So one problem is that I cant use the BT Active Sync, to surf the internet (I dont know if this is how it is done), like you can surf while the XdaII is in the cradel.
So I have been surfing around, and I think I need the WidComm BT stack to be able to surf the internet over BT. But how is this done. I have downloadet files, and read alot on this forum, but I cant seem to find any install guide those cab files and other thing to the PDA.
And then I have read about alot of users that has had problems with the WidComm stack, and say that the M$ BT stack can do the same in the latest update, but I cant find the settings, it all looks the same.
So if any one can help a XdaII (or PDA) newbee, with an install guide and some of your sugestions for the networking, then I would be realy happy.
BTW, if you also know how to set up an audio gateway on the PDA (for my head set) then that wold be great as well. And maby to get the button on the headset to do M$ voice command (if you have it install), then that would be fantastic.

Try downloading bluetooth tools and see if that works for you.
http://bluetooth.i-networx.de/index_e.html

I did that, but it did not change to much, it only gave me a "call last number" function in the head set, but not any thing with the network

BT and COM
i am having a hard time with it as well, I have win XP pro, and a sitecom USB BT dongle, the drivers for the dongle dont seem to work, it is has if the XP drivers have taken over, all the guides seem to use settings that are not available to the Windows XP BT drivers,
at one point i thought i got it, instead of connecting my XDA to the PC i did it the other way about. This time windows detected and setup some COM ports, although at the moment its at com 13 and 14
(this can be changed by doing to Device manager, selecting the port, properties, advanced, and changing it to whatever you want, it will say the port is in use, but none of the other ports 1-12 are infact in use (although it says they are) not sure if this will generate further problems?
So i think thats the PC side sorted?
now the PDA side, just before i updated PPC2003 i tried this and it didnt work, i then installed those BT tools and it came up with the cool servies page right at the end of setting up a link.
But didn't work, with hindsight i believe it would work if i had connect as i explained above, adding the XDA to the PC.
I then updated PPC2003 useing o2's updater.
setting up a link using the BT settings right after the update did have some extra settings to do with com ports but it still doesnt work and the connect via BT on activesync isnt there.
Then i tried those BT tools everyone is going on about
i get the BT icons on the desktop but thats it, nothing else happens. The cool services screen fails to pop up after setting the link and the connect via BT in sync is also missing.
this might be of no use but at one point useing standard drivers from XP and PPC2003 SP1 i did get a message saying it couldnt connect because it might not be a smart phone or PPC or somthing like that. im totally stuffed with this.
oh it does connect in that i can transfer files TO the XDA but not the other way about.

Hello folks!
This is how I've done it...
1- I installed Widcomm version 1.3.2.7 (on the PC) (BTW I use a Cheap-o-Epox USB dongle)
2- I Downloaded BT Tools (http://bluetooth.i-networx.de/index_e.html)
3- I established an Activesync connection through Bluetooth (this is done on the PocketPC by using the Activesync/Tools/Connect via 'computername')
4- I configured Widcomm to always trust the incoming MDA2 Bluetooth connection.
5- That's it, works every time... (well actually sometimes works on the second try but works nonetheless)
Good luck!
Rayan

I've also had some success with the Widcomm stack, but I have one problem.
In order for the bluetooth connection to work, I need to log into an account on the XP machine. If someone else then comes along and logs into another account, then my bluetooth connection is dropped. Also, if I don't log into an account, then I can't use bluetooth.
Basically, it seems to be the case that instead of running as a service, the bluetooth stack is running in user accounts. Anyone else got experience with this? Is there a way to configure the installation so that it runs as a service?

Hi Guys,
I have a similar question... is there a release due / tools available to fully utulise the bluetooth stack like the ipaqs for example. Ipaqs can locate and connect to devices as a 'hunter' but the XdaII just seems to be the 'hunted' when it comes to establishing a connection. Is there any way to make my otherwise excellent XdaII a bit more agressive when it comes to seeking out bluetooth connections??? I have already installed the Bluetooth tools v1.01 but this doesn't help the actual 'seeking' connectivity part of things
Can any of you bright sparks out there help ???? If enough people wanted this functionality, what would it cost to develop if it is not available maybe ???
just a thought. Cheers all.
AndyG

Technoas said:
Now I have been looking for 2 days on this forum, and I cant find it anywhere!!
..............
So I have been surfing around, and I think I need the WidComm BT stack to be able to surf the internet over BT. But how is this done. I have downloadet files, and read alot on this forum, but I cant seem to find any install guide those cab files and other thing to the PDA.
So if any one can help a XdaII (or PDA) newbee, with an install guide and some of your sugestions for the networking, then I would be realy happy.
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I found the answer to how to install the .cab file, just copy it to your device and select it in file manager, it then install's itself.
If I manage to connect my GTek 2020 to my BT AP with this I'll let you know!

Bluetooth Questions

Hi.
I have Orange SPV M1000.
I have tried to get it bonded to a Logitech diNovo keyboard on my PC.
By trying to add it to Settings | Connections | Connections | Advanced | Select Networks | New (internet) | New | (a name : abc, a modem: bluetooth) Next | New... | My_PCs_Name | Next | Name: my_pcs_name |Finish
Then the pops 2 requesters up
1.) This bluetooth device supports Serial port profile, would you like to create a Bluetooth serial port for it? (My answer: both yes or no)
2.) This bluetooth device supports headset profile, would you like to set it as your bluetooth headset? (My answer : No)
I have tried this when Connections | Bluetooth | was set to both "Discoverable" and "On"
but apparantly to no avail.
What I would have liked to work was:
1.) bluetooth activesync
2.) browsing via bluetooth from my PC's connections
3.) filetransfer via bluetooth (might go under activesync)
But I seem unable to get it to work.
Does anyonw have some ideas for this.
Thank you in advance.
Best regards: Jacob Eskildsen / eskildsen

there is no one around here seems to know this
i have been trying to do the exact thing for a few days now, had no joy at all.
there is not even one person using this kind of connection? or just do bother to tell.
I can make PC side working. Internet Connection Sharing bit, and I can even PING my PC from XDAII.
can somebody here help. if you really did this yourself

activesync and internet through bt
I just got activesync and internet working through bt . But I'm not sure how I did it . I have no extra bt software on my phone. I have a usb BT dongle (MSI) and I paired both of the devices. In all the settings I made sure internet sharing was allowed, on the BT network. In activesync in options - rules Pass through is ticked with connection to internet.
On the XDA started activesync through bt and my computer accepted it, and started to sync, the internet then started to work. i think active sync needs to be on for internet to work.
I don't really know the precise instructions, wish I did because i've just lost the connection again, and it will most probably take me another hour to work it out. think this time I better write it down!!!

If you could sync via Bluetooth, then browsing and file transfer via Bluetooth are possible. I've been able to do all of them. Just make sure you choose the ActiveSync profile when you pair your Pocket PC with the Bluetooth device on your desktop PC. If the ActiveSync profile is not available, then choose the Serial Port profile. But afterwards, you would have to go to ActiveSync Connection Settings and manually select the serial port you created.

thanks for advice
I've been having problems, like many people. And I've did what they did. Downloaded bt tools and its working excellent : ). I'm writing this on my xda2, downstairs from my computer. I'm well chuffed. Thanks for your quick reply, it seems your using bt tools too.

Am I ever going to get the hang of this!! BT Activesync ???
I'm able to get Activesync and thus internet through BT, but if I stop bluetooth on my XDA2, and then turn it back on and try to sync, I get an error message, stating Port not available.
What going on? how do I make this port avaliable. I thought I could turn BT on and off without problems, is this not the case. Is my computer configured wrong?
Help!!

Replying to myself!!
OK my problem has been solved, I just turn the BT off and on on my computer.
But what I really want, is to be able to not have to change anysetting on my computer. I would like to be able to enter my house and connect to BT, and then turn it off if I want, and then back on, and then off, on ,off, on..... You get the gist, without have to go upstair to my computer each time.
:twisted:
Any ideas :?

Hi,
Take a look at the guides for bluetooth ActiveSync'ing....
HERE

Thanks
Thank you for that Darius, i'd seen that guide before but forgot where it was. It has helped me to get activesync going anyway. I have actually hard rebooted my XDA2 because my Jabra BT200 stopped working, actually the phone software also buggered up. would ring people but they coud not hear me. Think it may have been BT Tools :roll: Which is a shame, I liked the desktop icons it gave.
At this moment in time I am in the process of restoring my data to my phone over BT, Just hope the BT200, will still work, because before it worked excellent a 100% of the time.
Ive read quite a few threads talking about changing the BT stack, for a more reliable one, but I'm worried about mucking the XDA2 up more.
My next worry is that I've ordered a BT GPS reciever, and I'm gonna try to get Tom Tom working with it, I'm sure I'm gonna have to read quite a few more posts to sort that out. I thought I was good on computers, I think I will have to rethink that altogether.

Magneto and I: The first week

The following should give users an idea what they are in for if they decide to take the plunge...
It happened again. Out of the blue, my XDAII froze, then turned itself off. I closed my eyes and there it was, this terrible electric 'bling bling' sound. I didn't have to open my eyes to confirm that another hardreset had just happened on my XDAII. No particular reason. As if my XDA wanted to tease me, it had just decided to clear everything in its memory, all installed programs. And now? installing everything again? when there was no insurance that it wouldn't hardreset itself again?
No, I said to myself, not this time. I opened the file explorer on my PC and did what I thought I would never do: I started the upgrade to install Magneto or better known as Windows Mobile 2005 on my XDAII.
When I downloaded the Magneto files, I thought to myself that I would just keep them for storing. You never know. One hardreset later and suddenly Magneto sounded like a godsent to me.
The upgrade went smooth, very smooth in fact. Before the upgrade I deleted the extended rom files and storage files. Maybe that helped.
All OK? Not quite. I could not connect to my PC and activesync via USB. Everything worked well via Bluetooth, but USB? No chance. I found out that it had something to do with XP and not having the servicepack 2 installed. Well, no choice. Goodbye USB sync. I could live with that since I still had bluetooth.
Once I had Magneto running, I started installing my standard programs. Most of them worked. The only one that did not was WorldMatePro. OK, I tried to live without it.
I installed most of the programs into Storage. They all worked. I even tried to install some of them into Buzz' RAM disk. A few worked as well, some couldn't be installed there. Well, I anyway planned to use the RAm disk for storage.
I was actually surprised that XCPU_Scalar worked. Well, even Magneto is now overclocked to 530 MHZ on my XDAII.
I also installed PocketZenPhone and Pocketbreeze. Somewhere I had read that these programs would not run on Magneto. But no issues on my machine! They both worked. The only issue I have with Pocketbreeze is that the category icons & colors are gone. Pocketweather also worked fine. Again, I was surprised that Magneto was so compatible.
Unfortunately, PocketContacts was a dead-end. "No contacts found" was the only message I ever got from it. Goodbye PocketContacts.
I had a few more programs in my folder on the PC, but the memory on my XDAII with Magneto is limited. Very limited. Very very limited in fact. But for me not such a big issue as I do not have too much necessary software on my XDA. I could live with this limitation for time being.
Anyway, I wanted to try Magneto for a week and see if I stayed with my new friend.
After I made the first few phone calls with Magneto I was impressed with the dialer. Nice interface. Also, it seems to me that the phone connects much quicker to the provider than before.
But why didn't they include something like the intellidialer? Well, the new contacts application is quite nice, so I will use the contacts instead. Not too bad.
Then, on day three, the disaster. Suddenly, the screen stopped reacting. Well, it actually didn't stop, it just didn't react to the places where I touched it with the pen.
I was already thinking about "hardreset", when it came to me that the screen orientation was wrong.
I had installed Vitobuttonmapper and mapped <rotate screen> to the record button as press and <start bluetooth> as press & hold. I figured out that I must have pressed the record button not long enough, therefore the <rotate screen> command was executed. But somehow, the screen orientation remained in Portrait but the touch screen was now in landscape.
I managed to fix this problem by changing back to Portrait and making a softreset. Then I tried to repeat this error. Yepp, the <rotate screen> was the culprit.
Consequently, my Magneto has no screen rotation anymore. But I can also live with this.
The rest of the week went fine. Magneto is stable and smooth.
Now the final question: Will I stay with Magneto? Yes, I will. I am often travelling and therefore I need a device that I can rely on. If I'm on the road and my XDA hardresets, I'm dead. Therefore Magneto is the solution for me. No hardresets, and even if the battery goes dead, I'm safe.
But one thing is clear to me. When the first Magneto devices come out, and hopefully there will be the Magician with Magneto, I will immediately retire my XDAII and buy one of these devices. Magneto is the future. No doubt about it.
What do I like the most about it besides the "goodbye hardresets"? for sure the softbuttons. Just great!
I hope this was useful.
Cheers
Pat

Hmmm.... Interesting.... Very, very interesting!!!!
I think I'll try Magneto real soon... However, I have a question: Is it possible to return to 2.06.00WWE just in case?
Thanks for such detailed story!
Best regards,
Rayan

return to 2.06.00WWE
pschoch said:
I could not connect to my PC and activesync via USB
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I have the same problem. But let me just say that I have 2 harddrives on my PC. Both with Win XP + SP2. I tried to synch Magneto on the harddrive I frequently use but it DOESN'T work... So I tried booting my 2nd harddrive. This 2nd harddrive has a fresh installation of Win XP + SP2 and other essential utilities like Office suite, WinZIP, etc.
And guess what...activesync 4.0 using USB WORKED using my 2nd harddrive. Very ODD...
Rayan said:
I have a question: Is it possible to return to 2.06.00WWE just in case?
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YES it is possible to return to 2.06.00WWE...I have done exactly that.
I have been running Magneto for about 1.5 weeks. And I must say it's GREAT! But as you know it's just a leaked version so it has a LOT of bugs. So I've decided to go back to 2.06.00WWE until Magneto is more stable/reliable.

How to configure Connect via bluetooth ?
I done the WM2005 installation and i manage to connect via USB with everthing sync. But i like to know how you can setup the activesyc via bluetooth ? I own a Level One bluetooth dongle and i did try to connect via bluetooth in WM2003 before i upgrade to SE. Now in Wm 2005, i still have no luck to get it work. Help !!!
I m using Windows 2003 and had configure Comm 5 in ActiveSync 4.0, added bluetooth serial port 5 in widcomm drivers. And also i pair my XDA2 with my machine several time to make sure it is paired. I try everthing include try to do file transfer from my deskop also no luck.
Btw, i can't discover any ActiveSync service in "My Bluetooth Places", i can only see "Dial up networking, Push Object". I do c actvesync in WM 2003.
Everytime i choose "Connect Via Bluetooth", will get this message "Cannot find an existing Bluetooth partnership with a PC that supports ActiveSync. Would you like to set up a patnership now ?" Yes/No button. But i had done the pairing before that ?
please help.

Change "Secure Connection" to "Not Required"?
Works for me, without Magneto (yet)

pschoch said:
It happened again. Out of the blue, my XDAII froze, then turned itself off. .........another hardreset had just happened on my XDAII. No particular reason.
I was actually surprised that XCPU_Scalar worked. Well, even Magneto is now overclocked to 530 MHZ on my XDAII
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well... think I know why you're xda froze... I overclocked the cpu on xda and when the speeds are 2 high the device will hardreset!!
p.s. magneto rulez! tnx buzz!

I've got the same problems with activesync via Bluetooth. My device doesn't seem to recognise the Activesync service on my Sitecom Bluetooth device.
With 2003SE I didn't have any problems. Madkat's proposal didn't work.

Update to WM5
You are lucky, I was tryed whole last night but fail, it always give me the message "Error 101 - Connection error". USB connection is very good, I could do everything with cable :shock:

Re: Update to WM5
I have got the same problem connecting bluetooth adaptor D-Link DBT-120 with o2xda2 running on 2k3 not se. Anybody help?

Hello amigos!
On this page you can find a possible solution for the Bluetooth/ActiveSync problem.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=20727&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=100
Best regards,
Rayan

Re: How to configure Connect via bluetooth ?
clementluy said:
I done the WM2005 installation and i manage to connect via USB with everthing sync. But i like to know how you can setup the activesyc via bluetooth ? I own a Level One bluetooth dongle and i did try to connect via bluetooth in WM2003 before i upgrade to SE. Now in Wm 2005, i still have no luck to get it work. Help !!!
I m using Windows 2003 and had configure Comm 5 in ActiveSync 4.0, added bluetooth serial port 5 in widcomm drivers. And also i pair my XDA2 with my machine several time to make sure it is paired. I try everthing include try to do file transfer from my deskop also no luck.
Btw, i can't discover any ActiveSync service in "My Bluetooth Places", i can only see "Dial up networking, Push Object". I do c actvesync in WM 2003.
Everytime i choose "Connect Via Bluetooth", will get this message "Cannot find an existing Bluetooth partnership with a PC that supports ActiveSync. Would you like to set up a patnership now ?" Yes/No button. But i had done the pairing before that ?
please help.
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Try this link http://www.geekzone.co.nz/content.asp?contentid=1421

Re: How to configure Connect via bluetooth ?
Thanks everyone for the solution. I had to revert back to 2003SE by Xdajojo version, because 2005 did not connect with usb or bluetooth adapter. activesync 4.0 does not seem to work properly on my device (O2 XDA2). I changed back to activesync 3.8 and worked properly with 2003SE. I can even go on internet using activesync. Also I have TOMTOM 3.0 Bluetooth version wich did not install on 2005. I will wait until proper stabilised version of 2005 is released by xda-developers team.

universal and bluetooth connection

So far I have been unable to syncronise using bluetooth. I could do it without much sweat win pda2k (ba), but not with jasjar (universal) so far. Any other owner managed to figure out how to do it? Cheers.

Got it working no problem at all. In fact I managed this before I managed to get it working with USB.
I used the same method that one would use for any WM2003 device.
Set PDA to discoverable on JASJAR
Look for BT devices from PC
Select the JASJAR
Select BT serial port
Find out the COM port of this serial port. Note it down.
Fire up activesync
Change the connection settings to look on the com port you noted down.
On JASJAR got to BT settings
Add a BT device
Select your PC
Select Activesync partner
Go to activesync
Select synch via BT from the menu

i will try again
i prefer the wm2003 wizard to wm2005, i will see maybe i missed something. thanks for clear instructions

still problem with bluetooth
Well I still have been unable to get the bluetooth working for the syncing. I follow the instructions in the booklet and help files, + what I just been told, but there are two issues,
the serial port is for outgoing from the PC, so that could not be used.
In the Com ports tabs two com ports get assigned one for incoming and one for outgoing, with the BA, we use the incoming which we feed into the Activesync, and it works then.
If I do that and create a sync relationship on the pda, there is the option of assigning outgoing port from pda, however when relationship is created only the incoming serial is showing up...
anyways, i have no problem using bluetooth on BA, and could not get it to work on jasjar/htc univ.
Doesnt matter I dont mind using the cable, but dishing the equivalent of US$1400 for a pda whose wizards dont work properly is a bit of an anteclimax.
And talking about ergonomics, the virtual keyboard has the annoying tendency to cover what u are going to write, so u dont see what u are writing...
They also removed the Avantgo utility from the IE, but I got it back by installing the one for winCE and upgrading over...
So for now, I will keep working on my BA (pda2k) as I dont want to waste my time working around bugs, until these get ironed out.
Greetings
Nabil H
I hope all these bugs will be fixed after the official launch

working at last
i managed to get the bluetooth syncing, the secret
1. hard reset,
2. recognise device on pc side
3. create activesync partnership on pda side
4. check incoming com port on pc side
5. feed that to activesync on pc side
6. check activesync partnership from pda side with pc
7. pda will pick up on partnership serial connection as being activesync
8. incoming and outgoing com ports ready to be used on pda side
9. choose outgoing com port on pda same as incoming com port on pc
10. connection established syncing starts...
All this without starting using the usb cable (so different from BA method)...
hope it helps others...

probs... again
Now after setting up and synicng with bluetooth I used the usb link to sync, and it complained about an error. I had to remove the bluetooth setup, and it is still complaining, I give up
I guess the famous russian saying is very wise: "Better is the enemy of the good"
Nabil H out

bluetooth, usb link and wifi
No wonder bluetooth was turned off by default in this jasjar shipment. I believe the following are bugs:
1. U can set up activesync over bluetooth initially after a hard reset.
2. If you then set it up after over a usb link, u lose the bluetooth setting, and can only sync over bluetooth after a hard reset again!
3. If u set up bluetooth, u get difficulties with wifi not connecting (on my system I can only get that back by disabling my wifi connection then enabling it again, dont ask me why this is so, i do not have the foggest clue)
4. When ur wifi is worknig u start having problems with bluetooth connections.
5. Even with a bluetooth sync working, u cannot browse folders on ur jasjar device from another device, as this service does not seem to be implemented.
This does not look very good for users who have multiple/various network connections...
So a patch is already needed for these connectivity issues...
Developers, look into this please...
Greetings
Nabil H out

wifi and bluetooth - solved
I finally managed, after some sweat to get:
. Wifi and bluetooth working together
. Two pda's BA and Universal using wifi simultaneously.
However what cannot be done is:
. Using two pda's with activesync simultaneously, this is a limitation of MS Activesync.
Greetings
Nabil H
PS On club imate website there is now a faq fro JASRAR (HTC Univ).

wifi and bluetooth - solved
Nabil,
can you post what you did to get this working.
thanks.
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I finally managed, after some sweat to get:
. Wifi and bluetooth working together
. Two pda's BA and Universal using wifi simultaneously.
However what cannot be done is:
. Using two pda's with activesync simultaneously, this is a limitation of MS Activesync.
Greetings
Nabil H
PS On club imate website there is now a faq fro JASRAR (HTC Univ).