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Going crazy with ActiveSync via bluetooth

Hi,
I've got problems tu configure my MDA2 to use ActiveSync via bluetooth.
Is somewhere a step-by-step instruction or can someone tell me, wich steps a necessary to establish this connenction ??
After I upgraded the rom and after about 20 hours trying, I was able to synchronize via bluetooth. Yesterday, I have to reset my device (complete) and installed everything again...but now, I'm not be able to get activesync via bluetooth working...
please help...
rob.

I was having difficulties as well. I wanted to Sync using Bluetooth because that way I can leave the unit in the leather case and just plug in a charge cable instead of cradling it.
I did the following:
In 'Settings/System/Bluetooth Settings' I pressed the start button underneath "Bluetooth ActiveSync Setup". I then paired with my PC. Then I could start ActiveSync on the device, and by selecting 'Tools/Connect via Bluetooth' it would connect. By setting it to not release the connect after it's done synchonising, I can even network over it.
However, after going to sleep and waking back up the connection is gone. Reconnecting won't work because something in the XDA still thinks it's connected, so it needs a soft-reset before connecting again.
This is on a device with ROM 1.52 though, will test on 1.60 later on. It's a pain that just pressing 'Sync' will not work, and that you have to manually select the option from the tools menu.

I'm not even able to start the connection to my PC.
When I use ActiveSync and say "Connect via Bluetooth" on the O2, it does nothing.
I'm able to use bluetooth to exchange files and that's barely all.
I have an ActiveSync profile in my bluetooth manager on the PC (WidCOMM stack) and can affect a COM Port but that's all...
Can anyone help ?

Hi,
@ Peter Poelman,
thankf for your reply. The way you described is exactly what I have done the last 2 days (about 500 times :shock: )
Now I know, where the problem was. I had the same behaviour like Murcielago. AciveSync did'd do anything, when I tryed to connect via bluetooth (of course, tha PDA and the PC were paired).
I remeber, as I set up the connection the first time (some weeks ago as it works), after pairing the device with the PC I got a messagebox on the PDA , which said that ActiveSync-Setup is now finished (or configured or something like that). I didn't get that yesterday.
I had installed a Bluetooth-GPS-Serial-Driver (from Towa) and it seems, that this one made the trouble. After I had removed the driver, the connection works great again. It seems, that removing the GPS-Driver is only necessary for the first setup of the connection...after the connection was made, I have installed the GPS-Driver again and now both works...
thanks a lot
rob.

I uninstalled the Towa patch this morning but nothing changes.
It's as if pressing Connect via bluetooth doesn't even answer.
When I try, connect via IR, I get a box telling me "Connecting to host".... but nothing like this with Connect via Bluetooth.
I really don't understand that ****ing bluetooth. It's not a intuitive technology.
I bought a WiFi module for my PC and I'll receive it today. I think I won't have to bother with that crazy bluetooth anymore.

The Towa patch is the culprit. It is not enough to uninstall it. You have to hard reset your device to really undo whatever it does. I had the same problems you describe. After a cold boot, I could successfully initiate the bluetooth active sync and I could then install the patch which worked and allowed the bluetooth sync (if the activesync cluetooth bond was created before installing the Towa patch). Now, however, I upgraded to the 1.60 ROM which fixes the bluetooth serial driver issue and no longer needs the Towa patch.
After all that work, I generally still sync in the cradle, because I like to charge the battery in the cradle. Go figure.
Panabax

hi,
I've the same problem,
when I try to connect trough bt I recive a popup saying "status: connecting to host".
I've an xda II with rom v. 1.52.00wwe and BT fix by towa.
Is anyone so gentle to send me (or post a link) the widcomm stack?
[email protected]
I hope it could resolve the problem.
thank you so much,
rubenio.

WOAAA TOWA
His last version of the bluetooth patch is incredible and activesync via bluetooth worked in less time then it took me to install the patch.
I now have ActiveSync via bluetooth and internet access via activesync.
Take it there : http://bluetooth.i-networx.de/index_e.html
I think he really did a tremendous job and the rest is coming (network access, etc...)

Can't get Bluetooth and Active Sync to work (1.60 ROM)
Hi !
I've also upgraded my device with the new 1.60 ROM, but I'cant get Bluetooth to work with active sync.
I've selected the "Inbound COM port 4" under Bluetooth Settings. After the device is bonded and I search for services my Logitech bluetooth device display the COM 4 serial port. But when I try to connect it display the following error: Could not establish connection with the remote device. I think it maybe is my settings on the PC.
Hope for some guidance :wink:
Panabax said:
The Towa patch is the culprit. It is not enough to uninstall it. You have to hard reset your device to really undo whatever it does. I had the same problems you describe. After a cold boot, I could successfully initiate the bluetooth active sync and I could then install the patch which worked and allowed the bluetooth sync (if the activesync cluetooth bond was created before installing the Towa patch). Now, however, I upgraded to the 1.60 ROM which fixes the bluetooth serial driver issue and no longer needs the Towa patch.
After all that work, I generally still sync in the cradle, because I like to charge the battery in the cradle. Go figure.
Panabax
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Newbee: How to install WidComm? And dose it work?

Now I have been looking for 2 days on this forum, and I cant find it anywhere!!
Okay, I would like to be in my bed with my PDA, and surf the internet.
I dont have a Bluetooth dongle my self, by the guy next to me has. And I have permision to use his internet connection. (Less than 10 meters away, it about 3-4 meters).
So one problem is that I cant use the BT Active Sync, to surf the internet (I dont know if this is how it is done), like you can surf while the XdaII is in the cradel.
So I have been surfing around, and I think I need the WidComm BT stack to be able to surf the internet over BT. But how is this done. I have downloadet files, and read alot on this forum, but I cant seem to find any install guide those cab files and other thing to the PDA.
And then I have read about alot of users that has had problems with the WidComm stack, and say that the M$ BT stack can do the same in the latest update, but I cant find the settings, it all looks the same.
So if any one can help a XdaII (or PDA) newbee, with an install guide and some of your sugestions for the networking, then I would be realy happy.
BTW, if you also know how to set up an audio gateway on the PDA (for my head set) then that wold be great as well. And maby to get the button on the headset to do M$ voice command (if you have it install), then that would be fantastic.

Try downloading bluetooth tools and see if that works for you.
http://bluetooth.i-networx.de/index_e.html

I did that, but it did not change to much, it only gave me a "call last number" function in the head set, but not any thing with the network

BT and COM
i am having a hard time with it as well, I have win XP pro, and a sitecom USB BT dongle, the drivers for the dongle dont seem to work, it is has if the XP drivers have taken over, all the guides seem to use settings that are not available to the Windows XP BT drivers,
at one point i thought i got it, instead of connecting my XDA to the PC i did it the other way about. This time windows detected and setup some COM ports, although at the moment its at com 13 and 14
(this can be changed by doing to Device manager, selecting the port, properties, advanced, and changing it to whatever you want, it will say the port is in use, but none of the other ports 1-12 are infact in use (although it says they are) not sure if this will generate further problems?
So i think thats the PC side sorted?
now the PDA side, just before i updated PPC2003 i tried this and it didnt work, i then installed those BT tools and it came up with the cool servies page right at the end of setting up a link.
But didn't work, with hindsight i believe it would work if i had connect as i explained above, adding the XDA to the PC.
I then updated PPC2003 useing o2's updater.
setting up a link using the BT settings right after the update did have some extra settings to do with com ports but it still doesnt work and the connect via BT on activesync isnt there.
Then i tried those BT tools everyone is going on about
i get the BT icons on the desktop but thats it, nothing else happens. The cool services screen fails to pop up after setting the link and the connect via BT in sync is also missing.
this might be of no use but at one point useing standard drivers from XP and PPC2003 SP1 i did get a message saying it couldnt connect because it might not be a smart phone or PPC or somthing like that. im totally stuffed with this.
oh it does connect in that i can transfer files TO the XDA but not the other way about.

Hello folks!
This is how I've done it...
1- I installed Widcomm version 1.3.2.7 (on the PC) (BTW I use a Cheap-o-Epox USB dongle)
2- I Downloaded BT Tools (http://bluetooth.i-networx.de/index_e.html)
3- I established an Activesync connection through Bluetooth (this is done on the PocketPC by using the Activesync/Tools/Connect via 'computername')
4- I configured Widcomm to always trust the incoming MDA2 Bluetooth connection.
5- That's it, works every time... (well actually sometimes works on the second try but works nonetheless)
Good luck!
Rayan

I've also had some success with the Widcomm stack, but I have one problem.
In order for the bluetooth connection to work, I need to log into an account on the XP machine. If someone else then comes along and logs into another account, then my bluetooth connection is dropped. Also, if I don't log into an account, then I can't use bluetooth.
Basically, it seems to be the case that instead of running as a service, the bluetooth stack is running in user accounts. Anyone else got experience with this? Is there a way to configure the installation so that it runs as a service?

Hi Guys,
I have a similar question... is there a release due / tools available to fully utulise the bluetooth stack like the ipaqs for example. Ipaqs can locate and connect to devices as a 'hunter' but the XdaII just seems to be the 'hunted' when it comes to establishing a connection. Is there any way to make my otherwise excellent XdaII a bit more agressive when it comes to seeking out bluetooth connections??? I have already installed the Bluetooth tools v1.01 but this doesn't help the actual 'seeking' connectivity part of things
Can any of you bright sparks out there help ???? If enough people wanted this functionality, what would it cost to develop if it is not available maybe ???
just a thought. Cheers all.
AndyG

Technoas said:
Now I have been looking for 2 days on this forum, and I cant find it anywhere!!
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So I have been surfing around, and I think I need the WidComm BT stack to be able to surf the internet over BT. But how is this done. I have downloadet files, and read alot on this forum, but I cant seem to find any install guide those cab files and other thing to the PDA.
So if any one can help a XdaII (or PDA) newbee, with an install guide and some of your sugestions for the networking, then I would be realy happy.
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I found the answer to how to install the .cab file, just copy it to your device and select it in file manager, it then install's itself.
If I manage to connect my GTek 2020 to my BT AP with this I'll let you know!

Bluetooth GPRS on PC

Hi,
I'm trying to use my XDA2 to provide Internet Access (GPRS) via BT to my portable PC.
I'm using my PCs built-in Bluetooth-module (running on WIDCOMM 1.4.1 Build 6)
I have no problem synchronizing my XDA2 with Outlook using BT (since this is a connection initiated by the XDA2) but if I "browse" the services on my XDA2 from my PC I only get OBEX Object Push.
I know from previous occations that you should be able to see Serial Ports etc.
My XDA2 is running on the following version:
R: 1.06.01
G: 1337.16
D: 1.60.00WWE
And Pocket Bluetooth Tools
Can anyone tell me what to look for?
Thanx in advance
Frank.

You can try using the XDA II in the wireless modem mode... See your program files for this application. Works for me.

There's your problem... You need to uninstall Pocket Bluetooth Tools; it removes your SSA service (which you need for BT Wireless Modem)

Hmm I also do use the Bluetooth Tools so I doubt you need to remove this very handy app. ?

Hi.
Well, I had to hard-reset my PDA in order to remove Pocket Bluetooth Tools (PBT), so I don't know if it was the hard-reset or PBT that did the works, but now I get the SSA profile and can connect to it without any problems.
Unfortunatly I lost the option to sync my PDA via Bluetooth, since Active Sync cant find any ports. So I'll give PBT another try, otherwise I'll just use the FIR-port to sync.
Thank you for your help. I'll let you know how things work out, when I re-install PBT.
Best regard,
Frank.

What ROM you running? With the 1.72, you have the options of enablign outgoing and incoming COM ports in the settings menu (Start --> Settings --> Bluetooth Settings)
Before installing Bluetooth Tools, I've got: Serial, SSA, Object Push, and one more.
After installing: I've only got Serial and the other one that I cannot remember.
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For me, it was the Bluetooth Tools that was holding me back. I've emailed the author to see whether he can add the SSA port.

Update:
Well, first of all, I was thrilled to find out that I no longer have to start the Wireless Modem-app to use the GPRS-connection on my laptop. Apperantly a modem-emulator runs in the background, so my XDA2 stays fully functional while its forwarding GPRS traffic. (Though I think it's strange that theres no indication what-so-ever that the GPRS is in use - normally you get a different icon at the antenna)
Anyways, I installed the latest version af Pocket Bluetooth Tools (PBT). And the SSA-profile was still there and working. Then I paired my laptop using the ActiveSync profile in PBT - and wupti: Both the GPRS "dial-through"/SSA and ActiveSync is working - at the same time.
Now, all thats left is to pair it with my BT GPS receiver. Can't do it at moment since it's at home - I don't expect any problems with it though. Usually works without problems.
Thank you again for your input.
Frank.

hmm... that's awesome. I'll install Pocket Bluetooth again and see whether it works.
Can you answer these:
1. Which ROM you using (ie. O2 1.60)
2. Which version of Pocket Bluetooth Tools? 1.1.0.0?
Thanks... That's awesome news though. I love how it turns the Bluetooth on and off automatically.

WeatherB:
I'm using ROM 1.60.00WWE (QTek) and the latest version of PBT (1.1.0.0)
It works like a dream

I guess it's possible that Pocket Bluetooth is conflicting with 1.72

I know for a fact, that ver. 1.1.0.0 is conflicting with 1.72 - my friend tried to use this.
He then installed a previous version of PBT, but still can't see the SSA-profile, but the ActiveSync profile now works.
He will try to uninstall PBT and see if the SSA appears.

oh okay... I might have to downgrade to 1.60...
What's the main difference between 1.60 and 1.72?

WeatherB:
I just talked to my friend again. Seems I misunderstood him the first time. The reason he uses an older version of PBT is that with the new version his headset-profile is not supported.
Apparantly the biggest advantage of the 1.70 is the improved battery lifetime. He says he only charges his battery twice as often now. I'm sure there are other improvements - I just can't find 'em in the Upgrade 'n Modifying-forum right now.

I did the downgrade to 1.60 last night and I noticed something weird about PBT... After bonding with a device, you need to leave that last screen (the one that PBT created) unchecked and all will work fine.
Not sure if I tried this workaround with 1.72; but non-the-less, seems to be working. I did however lose the Audio Gateway after installing PBT. But no biggie, don't want to listen use my PDA as an audio gateway for my PC.

WeatherB:
Hmm. I checked the Active Sync-box, otherwise I couldn't connect via Active Sync over BT, since it wasn't in the menu.
But I don't remember if I paired it from the PDA or the PC. But everything works - also the GPS - so I guess it's simply a question on fidling with it.

Exactly... I'll play with it and see how to get the most out of it without messing it up.

Bluetooth ActiveSync Setup Help please.

Hi Members,
I have just joined the site and this is my first post to try and find a solution to the most annoying frustrating problem im having. I am trying to connect a o2 XDA Mini to my laptop via bluetooth over a belkin dongle. My system only shows com port 4 then 9 12 etc. I have tried using 4 many times. Both the phone and the pc partner ok, but then when i try to sync from the handset the PDA try's to partnet again and will not connect. I have tried other ports, no good! same result. I then searched google extensivly and tried installing other stacks Widcomm, blue soleil etc as i aslo have cards and dongles for those, still no joy. Is the phone broken? Well my wife has the same make and model. Her one wouldnt connect either!! whats the problem with this phone/PDA. Do you have to be a rocket scientist to use BT or what. I visited other sites and forums and posed the question there. Apart from one reply it appears no one seems to know either way. Any help or guides other than the outdates geekzone(2004) would be most appreciated as i think those guides were not created for WM5 systems lol
Thank you and fingers crossed lol
EFM

I've always had problems syncing over bluetooth.
I dont have a WM2005 device, but my XDA mini exhibits the same problems.
I did get my xda to sync through bluetooth on my windows computer, but that was using bluesoeil. Strange thing was, after i switched stacks to the normal windows one, when i successfully sync'ed through bluesoeil, it WORKED!!
A hard reset has happened since then and im plagued with problems.
If you use a mac and a PC like me, i found it very easy to sync my xda mini through bluetooth with a mac. (provided you have buy the software).
If you search even harder through google, theres a page i came across which shows you, through windows cmd line, delete ports and free some up. Havent tried it tho.
Anyways goodluck, try hard resetting and starting fresh if you wanna sync wirelessly that bad.

Try this
Try this , it may work for you. Also I found that XP SP2 is needed if you wnt to sync via BT
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=246847
Good luck
Ciao

works perfectly for me using different versions of vidcomm on the belkin and logitech dongles i have on various computers
on the pda i just choose the IMSync or whatever it's called as profile
and start activesync on the pda click on sync over bluetooth and it does

Heres something i found...
http://help.lockergnome.com/general/Activesync-Port-Availability-Bluetooth-ftopict26563.html
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;315539
thats how to delete ghost ports from your system.
I got everything NEARLY set up, i cant set a outgoing port!.
I even hard reseted, still no luck, i think i just need to set a outgoing port to get this to work.
whitemoo.

ok...after restoring my backup from the hard reset, i rebooted the phone.
Then i got side tracked and went on the XDA-developers wiki.
Seeing that 'set up your own bluetooth personal network' article, i decided to set it up.
Figuring out that the original bluetooth stack is worthless, i switched to bluesoeil and rebooted.
Bluesoeil did not work for some reason, and couldnt find my bluetooth hardware, so rebooted the phone with the normal stack.
I went into the normal stack that came with my phone, and mysteriously, i could set outgoing ports!
I set the port my outgoing port to comm0 and tried to sync.
AND IT WORKED!!...its finally syncing!
Oh btw, i found this file in my ext rom: called 'default_BT_com_port0.cab' i installed it and it allowed me to set comm0 in the normal staCK. Previously before i installed that cab, i couldnt see ANY avalible com ports to set.
YAY!...whitemoo.

Hi
Thanks for the advise there it was appreciated. I have tried the different bluetooth devices two doggles and a card all with widcomm and microsoft drivers all have not worked blue soleil wouldnt find a serial port on my phone only dUN and Push obex. I have spent ages on this now i figured it just a worhless wm5 smartphone with a keboard.. oh MS if your listening re XDA Mini factor it in to the guidebook how to sync to an everyday computer to bluetooth. You provide the function but it dont work.. crapper ive had it with this overated smartphone with a slide out keyboard. worse thing is how much i paid for it. what a rip off!! I could get an old C500 WM2003 to BT sync on all three of these BT dongle/card.
Oh well thx.. Guys glad you got a result with yours bravo' lol
Many thanks for the input.
EFM

Hi again,
I have tried to contact o2 re this matter they tell me it cant be done via activesync and bluetooth. Has any one else managed to sync an XDA min via activesync to there computer. I am running xp pro SP2, Activesync Ver. 4.1 of the cover disc with the phone. I downloaded 4.2 and 4.5Beta to make sure none work. Google searches reveal nothin g on the subject. The model i appear to have is the WIZA200 version with WM5 rom version 5.1.195 (build 14847.2.0.0).
Any clues folks
thanks.
EFM

Can anyone help me please with this problem?
Thanks.

WM6 issues with OMAPClock and ActiveSync in Vista

Hey all,
I have been running the underground crossbow rom for a week or so, and I must say that I like it a LOT. For those that have a Cingular 8125, I would greatly recommend this rom.
I have noticed a couple quirks, and wondered if anyone has experienced them as well. First of all, OMAPClock isn't retaining its setting. I check it every once in a while to make sure it's still running at 252, and it's back at 180. I verified this speed in TCPMP. I decided to try the OMAPClockPlus helper, and when I registered it as a notification, it seemed to be fine until I did a reset, in which it wasn't registered anymore. I couldn't even find the notification it was supposed to create. So that did absolutely nothing for me.
Next I tried manually making a notification in memmaid that pointed to the /windows/startup/omapclock.lnk that I made that has the -clock 252 parameter after it. Even though this is set to run at wakeup and still appears in my notification queue, I check it and often it's back to 180. Any ideas?? Do I have a bum version of OMAPClock? It's the one that came with the rom. Oh, forgot to mention. I commented out the line in the smartskey ini that calls omapclock since I made a notification. It works fine for a while after resetting, I assume until it goes asleep. This tells me that the notification works as it is set to 252 when I reset, but that something is failing later. Maybe some of you that know more about omapclock and how it works can shed some light.
My next issue is with Windows Mobile Device Center (ActiveSync Replacement in Vista) and bluetooth. Has anyone successfully set this up in Windows Vista? I don't like WMDC, activesync was easier to set up. basically with wmdc you can't choose which BT port to allow, you can only choose "use bluetooth." This being said I can never get "ActiveSync" to show up as a service when pairing my phone. I tried installing AS 4.5 beta and WMDC wouldn't allow me to even install it. I'd like to get it working with BT, so if anyone has a success story, would you mind sharing it?
I am hoping the omapclock issue isn't related to the rom, as I really like it so far. I used it with no problems on every other rom I've had so far. Thank you for reading this short novel, and thank you also in advance for any expertise you can share!

Sorry, I cannot help you with you Omapclock issue, but I can provide some insight to your WMDC and bluetooth issue, because I ran into the same problems.
My computer shipped with the Toshiba bluetooth stack, and that automatically installs a port for ActiveSync on Comm 7. However, after switching to the default bluetooth stack in Vista, I was able to add an Incomming Port (ended up being Comm 4), and then ActiveSync showed up as a service on my fone. I have read places that people cannot get WMDC and Bluetooth to work if they are running the Widcomm stack, and I can personally say it was impossible with the Toshiba Stack. I guess because the built-in bluetooth stack is Windows made, WMDC knows where to look to get the incomming port, becuase as you stated, you cannot specifiy it. My advise, therefore, would be to use the default windows stack, and add an incomming port, which hopefully will solve your problem.
The problem with the default bluetooth stack in Vista is that it doesnt support some key profiles, A2DP being one of them. To me, bluetooth connectivity with my phone was more important than wireless headphones, so I switched to the default stack.
Let me know if this works out.