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Turbo Modus found on Pro/VPA4 !!!

Hi !
All the times i´m sure, that the same Turbo-Modus from WM 2003SE exist deep in the WM5 too.
People call me, Jay, you are crazy!
Since one Week ago i find the Turbo-Modus !
We tested it on the German-Forum http://www.ppc-welt.info/community/showthread.php?t=81949
It´s the same Speed-Up Feeling like on the XDAIIi or other Devices with the Turbo-Modus On.
No 50% or 1000%- Booster, but you can feel a better "Easy-Going".
It works on some other WM5-Devices too !
First, you only take a "new" Key to the Registry, copy the Power-Programm from WM2003 SE, start the Power-Programm,
go on new Processor-page and:
The Turbo-Modus exist and can be activated !
Here is the key:
HKEY_Local_Machine\ SOFTWARE\HTC\Power
Put a D-String with Name "ProcessorPageFlag" 1 Dec.
I made a reg.-File who write the key, and i put it with all needed files in one .zip-File.
Password: Agent Jay
First try the reg.-File, than copie the Files, if you want, you can overwrite the files in the Windows-Directory, but backup the originals !
Put the power.lnk File in the autostart/startup Directory, and now, after every Softreset, you can activ the Turbo-Mode.
It works perfectly, you can only feel the Speed-Up on really full Memory Pro´s, not really on empty Pro´s. Don´t know why.
Problems: After a Softreset it goes on "Standard-Mode", it must be activated again manual by Hand.
But these five Seconds for restaring Turbo-Modus during a startup are OK for me.
Anyone can it handle or find a way, to save the turbo-modus forever ?
I hope you like it !
Greetings from Germany,
Agent Jay

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Is it workin or just eating up my alredy bad battery? :/

RE
I just installed yesterday on my QTEK9000 and I 'think' its smoother in operation.
Not very sure about it
As I''m running XCPUScalar and some other speed up registry tweaks if there's any speed increase its definitely not noticeable
Thanks

It´s not possible to detect the faster speed, because it don´t push up the megaherz-rate !
But you can feel the faster performance.
No more power using from your battery !

So it speeds it up without speeding up the processor or using any more battery power? Hmmm. Surely if that were possible then the "Turbo" mode would be the default mode and no other mode (like "slowmo" mode) would exist?! :wink:
Could it be that the Turbo page is something that is built in to WM5 but which was disabled on the Universal since it does not support it?

Seems to work on my Magician

Can anyone pinpoint the actual benefit of this tool?
Exactly what difference is experienced??

The benefits are a faster and a feeling of "liquid" working.
Thats it.
Menus open faster, Windows open faster, the handling is therefore better.
No longer hickups, ...
It´s like Aspirin for a guy with headache.
After the Aspirin he don´t run faster, but he have no longer headache :wink: and make a better work.
I think, every little speed up of our device- help us !
Try it or leave it.
Regards,
Jay

It really wont make a difference on the HTC Universal because it already has a 520 MHz processor. With the PDA2, the processor was underclocked to 416 Mhz and the power-up option was useful there.
UD.

Thats not correct. It works on the Universal too !
First users here and some more users on german forum had tested and feel
more Speed. You can´t test it with benchmark-apps, because you don´t speed up the processor. Don´t know exactly, what it is, but it works.
Test it yourself and than reply !
Greetings,
Jay

Alright Jay, will keep you updated
Cheers.

Uhm... it *seems* to do something to the general responsiveness of the Universal, the hourglass appears for less time now.
I'll keep testing it... thanks for the clue.

Are you sure with this password. It is not working to unzip it !!!!!!!!!

CAB for your Turbo
i made cab files for this. easy installation.
i think this can make it easy!
thanks! AgentJ!

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Asukal said:
i made cab files for this. easy installation.
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Thank you MR.Asukal!!
Gooooooooood Job!!!

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siam_breeze said:
Asukal said:
i made cab files for this. easy installation.
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Thank you MR.Asukal!!
Gooooooooood Job!!!
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not thanks to me but to AgentJ, i had just assembled his mirachle!
Camrade Siam_breesze!, you must use Japanese Flag on your prifle,
not any others! or you wll be missed AIKOKU_set in future! :lol:

Does it really work?

Melty said:
So it speeds it up without speeding up the processor or using any more battery power? Hmmm. Surely if that were possible then the "Turbo" mode would be the default mode and no other mode (like "slowmo" mode) would exist?! :wink:
Could it be that the Turbo page is something that is built in to WM5 but which was disabled on the Universal since it does not support it?
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when i modefied Power.exe in Jasjar to mui,
i have found this entry in that resources.
are there any way to visuable those entry in the Power.exe???
[in the String Table 260]
4144, "Speed"
4145, "Auto (400MHz)"
4146, "100MHz Run mode"
4147, "200MHz Run mode"
4148, "400MHz Run mode"
4149, "100MHz Turbo mode"
4150, "200MHz Turbo mode"
4151, "300MHz Turbo mode"
4152, "400MHz Turbo mode"
4153, "Change <file:ctlpnl myCpl,5{beam}> settings to conserve power."
4154, "Backpack"
4155, "Backpack battery:"
4156, "Over Heat"
4157, "Battery Bad"
4158, "Unknown"

When VGA was used in full scale, a set screen where this processor was changed to the turbo mode was not displayed.
It seems to be able to use it only for QVGA.
I am using OzVGA.

Woohoo just got my TyTn

Just got overnight FedEX I will be posting some pics so stay tuned! Any requests?

Where did you order it from?

nickcerda said:
Just got overnight FedEX I will be posting some pics so stay tuned! Any requests?
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YES!!
Can you run SPB benchmark so i can compare the proccessor to my XDAIIi. Would love to see how well it preforms next to my over-clocked machine. After more than 18month differance i'm hoping the TYTN performs well!
cheers!

IT CAMEEEEE FROM EBAYYYY (a little somethinf for ATOS fans) Sure I can benchmark it, let me know what program you want me to use.

nickcerda said:
IT CAMEEEEE FROM EBAYYYY (a little somethinf for ATOS fans) Sure I can benchmark it, let me know what program you want me to use.
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can you use this if it works on wm5
http://spbsoftwarehouse.com/products/benchmark/?en
cheers

What test do you want me to run...just the CPU?

I would be v interested in some battery tests - compared against the wizard if poss. Seen v little info on this so far.

nickcerda said:
What test do you want me to run...just the CPU?
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that will do for a start!

What provider do you have? Also does the 3G work on that provider? Also what speed do you get on previously mentioned connection?
I know that's a lot to ask, thanx in advanced =)
Later; Lew

nickcerda said:
What test do you want me to run...just the CPU?
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Run the SPB benchmark, and give me the values, so I can have another graph that has Charmer, Magician and others. See example here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=313810&highlight=#313810
Anyone know where I can get Wizard SPB benchmarking results?

I have Cingular, I don't get a signal in my house. I only get UMTS down the road. I did go somewhere earlier and I did get a UMTS signal, and I only had a chance to open IE and browse to google.com. It was much faster than the wizard. I will run speed tests when I go to my girlfriends in about 2 hours.

hanmin said:
Anyone know where I can get Wizard SPB benchmarking results?
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I can run them on my wizard.
hanmin said:
Run the SPB benchmark, and give me the values
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What benchmarks do you want run? All of them?

Band Tab?
Could you check if you have this Band Selection Tab in Phone Settings. I have been searching for the registry details of HKLM\SOFTWARE\OEM\PhoneSetting
Would you please do me this favor posting the registry details of the above entry
My device has ShowTimeZonesPage and ShowPIN2Page only. I wonder if yours does anything else. Still working on adding this Band Selection TAB.
Thank you in advance!

I do have the band selection tab. Here is the registry export from that key.

Band Tab
Many thanks!!! You are the best. I tried to copy your settings and my phone (Cingular 8125 with Dopod 838 ROM) accepted them. Sure thing my model has no guts to support UMTS etc, however I've got these long awaited and "all-the-websites-and-forums" searched settings in place. Having tested my Cingular SIM on manual network type switching (GSM/WCDMA/UMTS/AUTO resulted in default of AUTO net pickup. Soon after I open the Band Tab all visible selections go transparent. Well there got to be something else that holds this selection in Auto intstead of for instance GSM only. Despite all this and that I am happy to have the TAB.
Thanks again!!!

nickcerda said:
I can run them on my wizard.
What benchmarks do you want run? All of them?
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All of them would be good, but I guess that you can skip the battery test as it may take forever. Other benchmarking can be all done less than 2 hours. It would be nice if you can hardreset your device to avoid having other applications hogging the resources.

It would be super to see what inside of the HTC is hidden. I would love to compare your new HTC reg key to the previous HTC Wizard. If it is not too much asking would you post this one: HKLM\Software\HTC
Thank you!

hanmin said:
nickcerda said:
What test do you want me to run...just the CPU?
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Run the SPB benchmark, and give me the values, so I can have another graph that has Charmer, Magician and others. See example here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=313810&highlight=#313810
Anyone know where I can get Wizard SPB benchmarking results?
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Hi!
For your info, everything is already been tested here!
http://www.solopalmari.com/content/view/2039/38/
But there are lots of review about TYTN, if you want to read them, please join my group HTC TYTN at:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TYTN/

Okay I got a chance to run some UMTS speetests from broadbandreports.com mobile ste. I ran four tests o the 1MB test here were the results in order:
343 kbits/sec
887 kbits/sec
887 kbits/sec
832 kbits/sec
I had 1 bar of reception.

HTC TyTN registry
It would be super to see what inside of the HTC is hidden. I would love to compare your new HTC reg key to the previous HTC Wizard. If it is not too much asking would you post this one: HKLM\Software\HTC
Thank you!

Cell Profiler

Has anyone heard or used this application and how did you find it:-
http://www.cell-profiler.de/
Thanks
Mark

mdavenport said:
Has anyone heard or used this application and how did you find it:-
http://www.cell-profiler.de/
Thanks
Mark
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Wow, sorry I haven't used it, but it sounds fantastic!! I'll be interested in seeing what others think too.
Cheers Mark.
Steve.

I used a very similar thing on my old SPV C600 Smartphone and it was brilliant..
Feedback welcome...

mdavenport said:
Has anyone heard or used this application and how did you find it:-
http://www.cell-profiler.de/
Thanks
Mark
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Read the reviews at Handango about it. Not usable on WM5.

jokinawa said:
Read the reviews at Handango about it. Not usable on WM5.
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Does anyone know when a WM5 version of this will be released or if there is another program similar?

Try PhoneAlarm .. it has profiles .. but donno if it can switch them dynamically based on the location ...

Here is a link to another version but it says its not fully compatible with all PDA's. Anyone used it on a PDA?
http://maniac.fschreiner.de/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=9&Itemid=18
Thanks

cell-profiler is pretty poor imo, the full version of phonealarm does let you switch profiles based on cell id. Ive been using it for weeks.....great app!!
Its the app i was looking for because i used to use Magic-Profiles pro on my P900 which did the same thing.

mrvanx said:
cell-profiler is pretty poor imo, the full version of phonealarm does let you switch profiles based on cell id. Ive been using it for weeks.....great app!!
Its the app i was looking for because i used to use Magic-Profiles pro on my P900 which did the same thing.
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The thing I don't like about phonealarm is the look and feel, it looks like the home page is going to be really busy and I also used SPB Diary so would it clash with this?
Has anyone used PPCProfiles for switching on a scheduled basis? If so how did this compare to phonealarm?
Thanks
Mark

Jade over/underclocking?

Hey, guys.
Is there any simple and reliable piece of software that will allow us Jade users to tweak our phones' CPU speed? I actually want to underclock it a few, in order to prolongue battery life when playing games during long train rides etc.
Thanks in advance.

hi
try the attached i used it to overclock my previous phone Which was a gene
hope it helps try it at your own risk OK
Note : to my knowledge and usage all application working on a gene do work on a jade
digsf said:
Hey, guys.
Is there any simple and reliable piece of software that will allow us Jade users to tweak our phones' CPU speed? I actually want to underclock it a few, in order to prolongue battery life when playing games during long train rides etc.
Thanks in advance.
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it doesn't start on megade 1.4..

hi
i think this is a 6.1 apps so it might not work on 6.5 megade ROM is 6.5
leco said:
it doesn't start on megade 1.4..
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Thanks, haree, but that app. is way too "heavy" for my needs. I'm running the stock HTC ROM, so i have no need for the Today screen plug-in and all that jazz. I just need a simple app. or way to underclock. Something along the lines of "HTC Performance", "xcpuscalar" et cetera.

Hi
dear the same application has the omap which is used to over or under clock the phone sorry this is the only one i know of
digsf said:
Thanks, haree, but that app. is way too "heavy" for my needs. I'm running the stock HTC ROM, so i have no need for the Today screen plug-in and all that jazz. I just need a simple app. or way to underclock. Something along the lines of "HTC Performance", "xcpuscalar" et cetera.
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So, if i understand correctly, there is no other app. for under/overclocking Qualcomm CPUs other than Home Screen Plus Plus. I wonder why hasn't anybody bothered to make such an app. It would've been very well received by the vast majority of experienced HTC users. I wish i knew how to code.
Thanks alot for your help, haree!

Overclocking the Treo Pro is possible!!

Ok, Before I start, I'd just like to note that this is my very first Thread on XDA, so if this is the "wrong section" and what not, sorry.
Now, If somebody has already figured this out and has a source, please direct me towards it, because I simply couldn't find it, Googling for my life! But I actually figured out a way myself and thought I'd share it in case this is still unheard of.
It's quite simple really, from my research on the CPUs that are in these HTC Devices, I figured MSM7kCpuSpeed should do it, but whenever I adjusted the clock in there, the phone froze, even under clocking froze the phone, then after toying around with other clocking programs, I discovered the phone apparently does some kind of auto CPU Scaling CONSTANTLY, so I looked for a way to disable this, and found Pocket Hack Master. and to my surprise, it worked! MSM7kCpuSpeed no longer froze the phone with the Auto Scaling disabled!
So here's how to in short:
1. Download and install Pocket Hack Master, and under File > Edit > Settings > Advanced. Tick "Disable Device Built-in Scaling" then tap "Ok" and then "Minimize" Make sure Pocket Hack Master DOES NOT CLOSE! Keep it open and MINIMIZED.
2. Download and install MSM7kCpuSpeed, Overclock and enjoy!
I've only gotten my Treo Pro up to about 730mhz without any crashing. but this actually works! I haven't tested with some kind of Benchmark, but I tested with many different emulators, and they are indeed much faster!
And that's it! Enjoy!

Hi there, I tried your overclocking solution but I got a problem, when I try to run MSM7kCpuSpeed I get an error message and the application does not open. I have Pocket Hack Master running with the mentioned setting activated.
Any ideas? I installed MSM7CpuSpeed v2. Looks like the device is not supported from what I have read in the MSM7CpuSpeed thread. I have the unlocked GSM Treo Pro. Perhaps you are running the CDMA device?
Would love to overclock my Treo Pro.

Yea, I do have the CDMA version, but I don't see why that would make the program not work... Unless the GSM Version really has a different CPU? and not just clocked at a different level.
Maybe you need Compact Framwork 3.5 or higher? I dont know if its needed to run MSM7kCpuSpeed, but give that a check.

Both the CDMA and GSM versions of the Treo Pro have the Qualcomm MSM7201 chipset. The difference is the clock speed; the CDMA runs at 528MHz, while the GSM runs at 400MHz.

Thanks for the info.... hummm, I just checked and my TP has CF 3.5 installed. Maybe it has to do with my ROM. I am using Mordaz 6.5 21884 in Spanish. Are you in 6.5 or maybe 6.1? Perhaps the language?

guilledil said:
Thanks for the info.... hummm, I just checked and my TP has CF 3.5 installed. Maybe it has to do with my ROM. I am using Mordaz 6.5 21884 in Spanish. Are you in 6.5 or maybe 6.1? Perhaps the language?
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I'm using a 6.1 - 21057 rom from RaiderFan, English.
Well, I really don't know what to tell you. this really does work... for me at least...
... Hmmm, I don't know if this could have something to do with it, but I am using RealVGA at 96 DPI.

I'm using the same rom but in Dutch. Anyways I also get the same failure report.
Well I'm going to instal another rom today, so I will let you know if that is a game changer.
edit: Tried with the 21903 and 28.... (both 6.5) but still nothing and the same error.
xXHawkeyeXx can you maybe post the details about which pocket hack master and MSM7kCpuSpeed you used for overclocking?
I do got a question regarding the battery. It seems that the apps are really draining my battery, do you also notice that or is it just me?

ruben__ said:
xXHawkeyeXx can you maybe post the details about which pocket hack master and MSM7kCpuSpeed you used for overclocking?
I do got a question regarding the battery. It seems that the apps are really draining my battery, do you also notice that or is it just me?
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Im using PHM (Pocket Hack Master) Version 4.36.062, Msm7kCpuSpeed Version 2.
As for battery, I've been able to keep my Treo Pro steady at 768mhz, and theres only a very small decrease in battery life.
Hmmmm.... You know, I had discovered 2 different ways to overclock the Treo Pro, I didn't even bother mentioning the other method, because its a bit tricky and requires you to be fast, but it seems more reliable, however it only has 1 clock choice and thats 768mhz.
well, here it is: You need to download NueOverclockTest (Google NueOverclockTest, wont let me post links)
After you install it, theres 2 ways to do this, if your lucky, you can just open PHM to stop the CPU scaling, then just go ahead and use NueOverclockTest to overclock to 768 Mhz. However for me, after I did that a few times, it didn't seem to work anymore untill i started doing it the tricky way, witch goes like this.
First, you have to have PHM CLOSED, then you gotta have a way to open PHM real fast, either by setting one of your keys to open it, or whatever, next what you do is this, open up NueOverclockTest and click "ok" twice till it gets to the "Your current clock speed is xxx.xx Mhz, set clock speed to 768.00 Mhz?", when it gets to that menu, sit and wait for about 10 seconds, whats happening at this point is your Treo Pro's CPU is scaling a bit for whatever reason, and by waiting 10 seconds, it should scale to 400Mhz and sit there, if you click "Ok" while it isn't scaled to 400mhz, the phone will just freeze, now, IMMEDIATELY after you click "ok", open PHM as fast as possible, otherwise before it can open and stop the scaling, your phone will just reset back down to 400mhz...
there is 1 problem though, these instructions are for my Treo Pro witch is clocked at 528, as you already know.... I don't know if its the big jump in CPU clock that freezes the phone, but if is, jumping from 400 to 768 might still be too big of a jump and will just freeze....
now, if it does work for you, the way I check to make sure I did it fast enough, is to use Nue Clock Control to see if it says "768mhz". I also use Nue Clock Control to clock my phone back down, Because closing PHM and letting it scale back down automatically only froze my phone. Letting my phone go to sleep also freezes it.
Well, thats it! Good luck!

xXHawkeyeXx, thank you so much for the tutorial!
But it is probably the device itself. None of the hacks worked for the GSM version, I even downgraded to wm 6.1 but nothing.
Still happy with 6.1 though =)

ruben__ said:
xXHawkeyeXx, thank you so much for the tutorial!
But it is probably the device itself. None of the hacks worked for the GSM version, I even downgraded to wm 6.1 but nothing.
Still happy with 6.1 though =)
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Awww, but we can't just give up there...
Its been confirmed that both devices use the same exact CPU, just clocked to a different default level. The oddest thing is, there's no reason Msm7kCpuSpeed shouldn't be starting up, I'm about ready to hard reset my phone and starting clean to see what exactly it was I did without noticing to get Msm7kCpuSpeed to start...
It would be a darn shame, I love the Treo Pro, and want other fellow Treo Pro owners to experience the joy of overclocking.
Yea, 6.1 does seem to run better IMO.
...well, if I can convince my self to try a hard reset, I'll let it be known, just that it would be a lot of work setting my phone up again.

Hi guys, I have not been able to try another ROM yet, I will give it a try in the weekend.
Ruben__ about the ROMS you tried, were they in english? Sometimes developers create their apps in english and do not support another languages...
Edit: looks like a couple of posts in the MSM7K... thread point to the Treo Pro.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=7831318&highlight=7201#post7831318
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=9393170&highlight=7201#post9393170

guilledil said:
Hi guys, I have not been able to try another ROM yet, I will give it a try in the weekend.
Ruben__ about the ROMS you tried, were they in english? Sometimes developers create their apps in english and do not support another languages...
Edit: looks like a couple of posts in the MSM7K... thread point to the Treo Pro.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=7831318&highlight=7201#post7831318
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=9393170&highlight=7201#post9393170
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Yeah, but it looks like the guy in that first post has his info a bit backwards... The CDMA Treo Pro isn't the one with the 400 Mhz clock.
At any rate, looking forward to hear how that trying a different ROM goes. Perhaps it was that all along since you both weren't using English ROMs.

I'll be trying this on my unlocked GSM Treo Pro, with stock English ROM build 19216.1.0.5, this weekend and report back my findings.

Just tried with 6.5 21884 Mord4z ROM in english (GSM unlocked Treo Pro) but unfortunately the same error message when opening MSM7... maybe other ROMS might work. I hope someone else has better luck than me!

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Awww, but we can't just give up there...
Its been confirmed that both devices use the same exact CPU, just clocked to a different default level. The oddest thing is, there's no reason Msm7kCpuSpeed shouldn't be starting up, I'm about ready to hard reset my phone and starting clean to see what exactly it was I did without noticing to get Msm7kCpuSpeed to start...
It would be a darn shame, I love the Treo Pro, and want other fellow Treo Pro owners to experience the joy of overclocking.
Yea, 6.1 does seem to run better IMO.
...well, if I can convince my self to try a hard reset, I'll let it be known, just that it would be a lot of work setting my phone up again.
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That is some real Palm Treo Bro-ttitude!
But seriously don't! It is a pain to set things up again.
@ guilledil
I have tried different roms and nothing worked for me but I did find a program which is not that great but it does something. It's called 'speedbooster' and it doesn't really 'overclock' the phone but let you prioritize the cpu for program's. It will also let you improve the video speed but it's not that noticeable and it really drains my battery.
I think we gsm'ers are stuck @ 400 mhz

MSM failed to run on my stock unlocked GSM Treo Pro. It complained about the Compact Framework being too old on my device.

@hockeyfan: I think stock GSM does not have CF installed by default. In Mord4z 6.5 21884 ROM it comes installed. You could try installing CF 3.5 but it is not working for me in wm6.5.
@ruben__: I have been using Speedbooster for quite some time now and it does what it says... it is not overclocking but it is something. Guess other Treo Pro owners could try it. Well, we tried it but as you said, we GSM'ers only get 400 mhz!!

there's no way to overclock treo pro.i've tried many ways,but all lose.