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How do I save to sd card

My XDA2 now has a Sandisk 512MB card.
I also have Journal Bar, SPB pocket plus, Lextionary, Pocket Atlas, Pocket Stars, Currency Convertor X, a few games, (and a few others which I ran out of memory).
What I want to know is how exactly do I get the programmes to run from the sd card, so that the XDA2 memory isn't used to store them.
I have tried x-backup, and I have tried cutting the files using file explorer to the sd card, but then the programmes do not run from the start menu.
I'm sure it's something simple but please let me in on it!
So near, and yet so far!

well when you install programs using activesync you can choose between
if you want to install it in main mem or storage
some programs dont work though if you install them to the storage
if you dont want to install the programs again you may be able to edit the shortcut and pointing the path to the new location and some programs may also require some regediting for them to work after being moved
if you dont want to edit the shortcuts then you can just make new ones
whats under programs is just which shortcuts that are located in windows\programs

Thanks for the help.. made sure I said no to installing in default directory.. now to see if each programme works.. Thanks for the help!

Similar position
Hi Gumby I'm in a similar position to you in that I just got a 512Mb SD today and I intend to rebuils my system with appropriate applications on the SD. Have you found out yet which work from the SD and which only work from ROM?
It would be halpful for everyone if we could get a list of what should go where.

Share tips about freeing magician main memory

Lets share tips for freeing magician's main memory instead of replacing with 128...

Whats Ur tip ?

Here's mine:-
1. Learn how to use the built in applications to their max before adding 3rd party software.
2. Don't load anything into Main Memory that you can avoid. Use Storage and Storage Card instead.
3. Eye Candy = Memory Bloat. A recent Unit Conversion programme I tried needed 1.8MB FFS. A freeware equivalent which is just as functional but without the candy takes just 39K. Learn to live without it.
4. If you haven't used an app in the past month, delete it.
5. Delete programs that you only use to show others how cool your Jam is.
6. After a couple of months with the Jam, make a list of all software installed. Award points for the number of times you've used each app, and how inconvenienced you would have been if it wasn't there. Backup and Hard Reset. Install only those apps which got high use and inconvenience scores. This also gets rids of all the DLL junk that trial programs put in \Windows.

Do a full backup before first!
1. Use WinCE Cab manager to modify the installation path of CAB file before installation of the program. U could remove unnecessory file inside the cab too. (Some exe installation actually put the cab in yr desktop's C:\Program files or C:\program fies\MS Activesync, modify it w/ WinCE Cab manager before actually install the program to yr pda)
2. Use Memmaid (need $) or SystemPath (freeware) to move some DLLs to storage or SD card.
The following better do it w/ Resco File Explorer w/ "hide files in rom" so U know better what U can delete:
3. Some software (Resco file explorer, Pocket plus) leaves some "help wizard" graphic files in Windows directry after installation. Use yr photo album to screen and remove them
4. Many html help files in Windows and Windows\help can be remove safely if U never look at them before. (I wonder anyone ever look at them)
5. Remove unnecessory or unuse templates and file in MyDocuments
Even though I got a lot of software installed (including the MS Voice Command installed in Storage) . I still get 35mb of main memory left.

I cancel the extended Rom install then just install what I wanted. the patches and configuration Cab I installed. But I did not install fax software Caller ID etc which I never use. wow now I have a lot of main memory

I cancel the extended Rom install then just install what I wanted. the patches and configuration Cab I installed. But I did not install fax software Caller ID etc which I never use. wow now I have a lot of main memory

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I cancel the extended Rom install then just install what I wanted. the patches and configuration Cab I installed. But I did not install fax software Caller ID etc which I never use. wow now I have a lot of main memory
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How can you choose which apps to be installed? I don't want thw fax and intellipad...

Do a hardreset ( Softreset and on key ) .. and when U have set up the PPC .. and it says tap on screen .... U just do a PIN reset ( soft reset ) so it dont install the Extrom software.. after the softreset .. its a clean 2003 SE ..
U then use fileExplorer to install whats in the now visible External rom.
I didnt install any intelli stuff on my s100 and gained almost 2mb just on that. ..
Carlis

Carlis said:
Do a hardreset ( Softreset and on key ) .. and when U have set up the PPC .. and it says tap on screen .... U just do a PIN reset ( soft reset ) so it dont install the Extrom software.. after the softreset .. its a clean 2003 SE ..
U then use fileExplorer to install whats in the now visible External rom.
I didnt install any intelli stuff on my s100 and gained almost 2mb just on that. ..
Carlis
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Can I extract the Caller ID and install it separately...cause I use it, but I do not use other apps in my rom?...
Regards,
Primoz
p.s. If is some other apps like Caller ID I could use instead of CID?...pls suggest...

yes you can. it is in another thread here in this forum.
after hard reset and first time setup (set location, calibrate screeen) you will be prompted that setup is complete tap screen to continue. after you tap the screen perform a soft reset this will stop the auto install and you can choose what you want to put on your device by looking at EXT ROM folder. I've just finished hard resetting and have opted not to install JAVA midlet manager, Caller ID, and Fax. saves a lot of mem i think.
the only thing i installed on main memory is resco explorer, omegaone batt pack pro, sbsh pocketbreeze and pocketweather (3 out of 4 are today plug-ins and I wanted them to load faster) I have my tones in 'Storage' instead of \Windows\Rings\

Find this freeware and install it: clearnotify_install
It removes a lot the crap that end up in memory in a soft reset. It added like 8MB of free main memory back for me.
Ineedtoys said:
A recent Unit Conversion programme I tried needed 1.8MB FFS. A freeware equivalent which is just as functional but without the candy takes just 39K.
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Which one?

skagen said:
Find this freeware and install it: clearnotify_install
It removes a lot the crap that end up in memory in a soft reset. It added like 8MB of free main memory back for me.
Ineedtoys said:
A recent Unit Conversion programme I tried needed 1.8MB FFS. A freeware equivalent which is just as functional but without the candy takes just 39K.
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Which one?
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U can use a very usefull calc program...1-calc (not free :roll: )...you can install it on the SD card!
Regards,
Primoz
p.s. bnycastro thx for the tip!

I transfer dll files from tha windows/appmgr folder and put them in the system folder in the storage card. Then change the values in the registry with resco. Works great.

mannyman2 said:
I transfer dll files from tha windows/appmgr folder and put them in the system folder in the storage card. Then change the values in the registry with resco. Works great.
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Can U give me more instructions how to do that...pls :wink:
Do U have some problems....like apps not responding or sth else?...cause if U read in some other threads if U change the default ring dirctory to the SD card after a while it put back the default ring tone...from windows directory. Looks like the SD card when not used is put in like "sleep mode"... :roll:
Regards,
Primoz

i'm with primoz on this! how do you know which dll are safe to move? and how do you modify the apps to look at which dll???
also would like to streamline my JAM (did a hard reset this am and did not install EXT ROM stuff except MMS client and the patches) am using 8.82MB of RAM for storage.
I have bought tweaks2k2 and did the scan/move of dlls it only moved 1 dll. it said i could do it manually but am afraid.
Apps in Main Memory:
OmegaOne BattPack Pro
SBSH PocketBreeze (I know it is a bit big but it is a today plugin so I want it loading fast)
SBSH PocketWeather (Used to have this in SD but it was very slow, again this is a today plugin)
Resco Explorer (of course I wanted this in main so I can browse other cards)
JAM camera patch
Scarybear Check Notifications
SanDisk Wi-Fi SD Card Drivers
Pocket Bluetooth Tools
Greensoftware GS Battery Monitor
Apps in SD:
Astraware Bejeweled
Astraware Insaniquarim
Astraware TextTwist
Astraware Zuma
HnH Eng Chi Dict
MOBEM Mconvert
Illium Soft eWallet
Agile Mobile Messenger
Aidem Majong Academy
Sprite PocketBackup
Macromedia Flash Player ActiveX

bnycastro I have done a hard reset as said in this forum. Before I`ve got about 13megs of used ram for appz installed in main memory. After a hard reset I have about 8megs of used ram and I`m happy . Some appz have installed in to storage, other (larger) on the SD card. From the ext_rom I just installed the MMS and caller ID....and some patches (don`t know why they are needed). I would like to upgrade memory to 128mb...but is too expensyve...and the only company that performs this is too far away (France I think)...
Regards,
Primoz

bnycastro said:
i'm with primoz on this! how do you know which dll are safe to move? and how do you modify the apps to look at which dll???
also would like to streamline my JAM (did a hard reset this am and did not install EXT ROM stuff except MMS client and the patches) am using 8.82MB of RAM for storage.
I have bought tweaks2k2 and did the scan/move of dlls it only moved 1 dll. it said i could do it manually but am afraid.
Apps in Main Memory:
OmegaOne BattPack Pro
SBSH PocketBreeze (I know it is a bit big but it is a today plugin so I want it loading fast)
SBSH PocketWeather (Used to have this in SD but it was very slow, again this is a today plugin)
Resco Explorer (of course I wanted this in main so I can browse other cards)
JAM camera patch
Scarybear Check Notifications
SanDisk Wi-Fi SD Card Drivers
Pocket Bluetooth Tools
Greensoftware GS Battery Monitor
Apps in SD:
Astraware Bejeweled
Astraware Insaniquarim
Astraware TextTwist
Astraware Zuma
HnH Eng Chi Dict
MOBEM Mconvert
Illium Soft eWallet
Agile Mobile Messenger
Aidem Majong Academy
Sprite PocketBackupMacromedia Flash Player ActiveX
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Why Sprite at all if space is a consideration? Doesn't the Xbackup that comes with the Jam work for you? Ir does Sprite do anythign different?

primoz: we are on the same boat as they say. i also have done hard reset and now only installed patches and caller id (no dialer and other stuff). The 128mb ram upgrade is also avialable in the US but I am in the Philippines the shipping alone would be expensive!!!
skagen: spritepocket backup is the best backup utility out there imo. it has scheduled backups (i.e. my pocketpc is scheduled to backup every 3am) battery monitoring (i.e. my pocketpc will run a backup when my battery hits 25%--this is user defined), you can make self-restoring backups (just tap and it will restore even without the app installed) it is very powerful (you can choose what to backup/restore) and worth the $$. this app has saved me from alot of heartache and headache a couple of times already you should try it out xBackup is poo compared to this app.

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[/b]OmegaOne BattPack Pro
SBSH PocketBreeze (I know it is a bit big but it is a today plugin so I want it loading fast)
SBSH PocketWeather (Used to have this in SD but it was very slow, again this is a today plugin)
Resco Explorer (of course I wanted this in main so I can browse other cards)
JAM camera patch
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All of the above can be put into the 7.6mb storage, including the various crap that Resco spews all over the Windows dir Use whereismyram to find which files in \Windows are in RAM, use systempath to create a dir in \Storage, and move pretty much everything. I've got tons of apps installed on mine, but only 1.5mb of stuff in RAM - everything else is in \Storage or the SD card.

Primez...
Anytime I install a new software I always choose to install into my 1GB SD Edge card. You can use Cab Manager if you want a more detailed result of what files go where, but I just search the registry with Resco Registry and change the paths to point to the storage card. dll files I purposely put in system folder. I've had a couple of problems with very minimal software such as batter back pro. But overall I have 85% of my software in Storage Card. Let's make this thread better, so that we can avoid upgrading to 128mb's. I have like 30 programs already and have 35 mb's of main memory left.
Look in Windows\AppMgr and copy a dll file into the system folder in the storage card, do not cut it. You can do same with Windows directory. Then change the value in the registry in every instance that you find it. Then soft reset the device to make sure you get no errors. Start the program and see if it works. If it does, delete the original dll file and do a soft reset. Try the program again. If it works you're good to go, if it doesn't then you found a toughy and move on. Remember to do full backups, if you do then you should not be scared to do anything for you can always restore.
Manster

transferring programs to miniSD card

i recently purcahsed a 2gb miniSD card off ebay and was wondering if i could transfer some of my existing programs to the card without reinstalling it.
actually, it was just some games because i have some pretty good high scores
thanks!

Yes most games will work without reinstall and keep high scores - just copy whole of card onto pc and then onto 2gb card.
This is what i did when i got my new 2gb card - only couple of apps needed reinstalling

Not so easy I guess. Is'nt it like on your PC ?
You have to deal with registry entries, cfg files or whatever the individuall program works with...
I would try to locate the file (if available) where the highscores are saved and put them in a save place, than reinstall the game.
If the highscores are also stored in the registry than it sould be easy to reconstruct them after a reinstall like: locate them in the registry, make a screen shot to retain the values and recreate the registry keys after a new installation like they where on the old ones.
It's a try worth...

blueled, your turning it into a rocket science.. just copy the folders to \storage card\program files\gamex and then using resco explorer click and hold on the games .exe and click on add to start menu and it puts a link under start-programs. you might want to use pocket mechanic or mem maid to remove the old icons/shortcuts or you could just edit the old icon/shortcuts by opening the .lnk with notepad and adding a \storage card\ in there.
ok, sorry blueled, i think i turned it into the human genome project :lol:

fone_fanatic, ist it that easy ? Than thanks for the correction.
Maybe I should apply to rocket sience NASA or ESA.
Programmers just think to complicated some times.

Program Memory

I am fairly new to this forum and I am sure this has been explain on here once before. But I though this might be a little easier than searching through countless pages of posts. I want to know if there is a way to clear up the program memory. If I could I would like to be able to delete the Office mobile stuff if that would help. Dont see a need for it since I work on macs mostly. Of if there is way to trim it down. At the moment my program memory is 43.87 MB and it says 40.91MB is in use but I only have window media running and only 3MB available. Is there something I can do. What is taking up all memory. Even after a soft reset. The most I have ever seen it go up to is like 14MB and that is just for a while then it begins to rundown. Thanks for you help in advanced.
Carlos

CleanRAM - http://thewingster.com/cleanram.aspx

Thanks Ace..good work..is there a way to get into the registry and delete some of the office mobile stuff, like work powerpoint and excel or would I have to do a complete flash

toreone said:
Thanks Ace..good work..is there a way to get into the registry and delete some of the office mobile stuff, like work powerpoint and excel or would I have to do a complete flash
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You would have to flash a ROM without Office Mobile. Look on The Wingster (http://thewingster.com/roms.aspx) and find a ROM that doesn't include Office Mobile. I tell you if it doesn't include it, so it should be fairly easy to identify that.
But going into the registry wouldn't be where you'd delete that stuff. You'd find it in the file explorer, \Windows. I'm not sure if you can delete those files though. I'd just flash one of the numerous ROM's that doesn't include Office Mobile, there's many of them.

Office Mobile is in most cases (there are CABs out there, so that you can install it on stirage card) in the ROM and can't be deleted in an easy way. The File Explorer doesn't delete it. Midnight Commander can delete files, which are in the Main ROM, but only use if you know what you're doing! This program can delete all files - important system files, too!
The most easy way is, as ace already said, to flash a rom without Office Mobile. But be careful and read a lot before you flash a new rom! A broken flash may cause a broken phone!

That is one of my biggest fears is bricking my phone and not being able to bring it back. I am currently running SPB Mobile 3.0 and I like that a lot. That is what I would like to run permanently. Maybe when i upgrade or buy a new phone I will practice on my old wing. Thanks guys for the info!

program mem == application mem
storage mem == files on your device
application mem is used by programming which are running nothing else
storage mem is used by files stored on your device
freeing up app mem don't give more storage and virsa versa

Cant add programs to list

HI, i have seen on this WM6.5 that i can't add any program (ie one thats not say google maps or one of those big companies)
i can run the program via file manager and clicking the application .exe
the phone still wont see the application as a program.
i had a jasjam before and the prgrams i am trying to add worked fine but now on 6.5 cant do this.
the only way is to run these apps, well not run but to get a short cut, is on a program like CHome but then i move away from HTC sense start up display that is nicer looking.
like i said the programs work fine, just can see them in programs.
anything that will help?
cheers

have you posted a shortcut to your windows\start menu\programs\
I'm running 6.5 and any time I have a program installed on my sd card or trying to run an .exe from the storage card (or even if the .exe is just in another folder) thats what I do and it shows in my start menu or whatever subfolder I put it in in the start menu.

Aaron McCarthy said:
have you posted a shortcut to your windows\start menu\programs\
I'm running 6.5 and any time I have a program installed on my sd card or trying to run an .exe from the storage card (or even if the .exe is just in another folder) thats what I do and it shows in my start menu or whatever subfolder I put it in in the start menu.
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Yeap, in programs folder as an .exe, other folders like goggle maps are there too. The programs still don't show or work. Should i not try and get an .cab version? since looking into this takes you into trying to understand a pda rather than a PC. The .exe files still cant be seen, i have to run them via file explorer, although now loaded a short cut via button strokes so am using that to make the task a little easier.
I ran a .cab file on another program and found it distributed files with icons and other th9ngs that seem to integrate better into the host rather than an .exe
Also been looking at all the apps these phones can have its amazing.
I have one on my phone that can change a set of traffic lights in my city!
With authorisation of course, its my job, just saying how the PDA has really started to take off. become the real modern Swiss army knife.