I am fairly new to this forum and I am sure this has been explain on here once before. But I though this might be a little easier than searching through countless pages of posts. I want to know if there is a way to clear up the program memory. If I could I would like to be able to delete the Office mobile stuff if that would help. Dont see a need for it since I work on macs mostly. Of if there is way to trim it down. At the moment my program memory is 43.87 MB and it says 40.91MB is in use but I only have window media running and only 3MB available. Is there something I can do. What is taking up all memory. Even after a soft reset. The most I have ever seen it go up to is like 14MB and that is just for a while then it begins to rundown. Thanks for you help in advanced.
Carlos
CleanRAM - http://thewingster.com/cleanram.aspx
Thanks Ace..good work..is there a way to get into the registry and delete some of the office mobile stuff, like work powerpoint and excel or would I have to do a complete flash
toreone said:
Thanks Ace..good work..is there a way to get into the registry and delete some of the office mobile stuff, like work powerpoint and excel or would I have to do a complete flash
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You would have to flash a ROM without Office Mobile. Look on The Wingster (http://thewingster.com/roms.aspx) and find a ROM that doesn't include Office Mobile. I tell you if it doesn't include it, so it should be fairly easy to identify that.
But going into the registry wouldn't be where you'd delete that stuff. You'd find it in the file explorer, \Windows. I'm not sure if you can delete those files though. I'd just flash one of the numerous ROM's that doesn't include Office Mobile, there's many of them.
Office Mobile is in most cases (there are CABs out there, so that you can install it on stirage card) in the ROM and can't be deleted in an easy way. The File Explorer doesn't delete it. Midnight Commander can delete files, which are in the Main ROM, but only use if you know what you're doing! This program can delete all files - important system files, too!
The most easy way is, as ace already said, to flash a rom without Office Mobile. But be careful and read a lot before you flash a new rom! A broken flash may cause a broken phone!
That is one of my biggest fears is bricking my phone and not being able to bring it back. I am currently running SPB Mobile 3.0 and I like that a lot. That is what I would like to run permanently. Maybe when i upgrade or buy a new phone I will practice on my old wing. Thanks guys for the info!
program mem == application mem
storage mem == files on your device
application mem is used by programming which are running nothing else
storage mem is used by files stored on your device
freeing up app mem don't give more storage and virsa versa
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Does anybody know how to add software in ROM.
I succcesfully added small 1-file programs (and a couple of 2/3 file programs) using mkrom.
I often needed to modify the default.reg file to achieve this...
But how do I install more complex programs like Batterybar/Journalbar and Fonix Voicedial ?
I hope someons has the answer!
its not easy. u have to use the snap utility to find out what changes were made and manually add each entry into default.reg file. also if any files need to be somewhere other than windows directory u have to copy them to ram via the initobj.txt file.
alex
Thanks, that worked....
It took some time though!
kalex said:
Also if any files need to be somewhere other than windows directory u have to copy them to ram via the initobj.txt file.
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Cool! People are figuring out how this works!
It has to be noted that putting files in any other place than Windows means you're making a RAM copy, which ofcourse uses RAM you could use for other things. So it would be better to figure out how to convince the software to run from Windows instead, which, sometimes after a little tinkering, has worked for us in all cases.
If need be, you can also try creating a link to the program in Windows, and copy that instead of the real file.
It has to be noted that putting files in any other place than Windows means you're making a RAM copy, which ofcourse uses RAM you could use for other things. So it would be better to figure out how to convince the software to run from Windows instead, which, sometimes after a little tinkering, has worked for us in all cases.
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that's true. but some apps want to put something else where. for example Pocket Plus has 4 txt files which it modifies during use, so they have to be copied to RAM otherwise it wouldn't be able to modify it. some apps put dlls to \windows\appmgr, so i have to add that. so far i added Pocket Plus 1.2, Resco File explorer 2003, Soft Reset, and Pocket Gamer D9 dialer, as well as i localized it to US specs. the only thing i can't figure out yet is how to add T-mobile USA GPRS configuration to the auto setup.
XDA developer Peter Poelman can you share on how to do this?
thanks
alex
Laundry list of things to add to ROM
I have a laundry list of things to add into the ROM. I'm sure it all won't fit, but I'm very energized about hearing what you guys have been saying.
I have a legal copy of battery/journal bar, fonix voice suite + dial, pocket informant, and All Locations Traffic Counter. Additionally I am most certainly interested in getting T-Mobile US settings setup in the autoconfig.
I'm far from a UNIX guy, but I have Cygwin now installed and I'm working on getting Perl setup. One of the guys in my department helped me build SER1.1 on his Linux box.
I've had the T2Tech guys squeeze 128M inside the phone (64/64) so I'd like to add the driver for it into ROM so I can use it after a hard reset without having to dig out the installer.
If there's any assistance I can lend along the way please let me know.
MAXLW can you shoot me some basic instructions for Fonix and Battery/Journal bar?
Thanks all for the great tool!
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US T-Mobile PPC-PE 128M SER1.1
rdm128,
Are u able to access 128mb of ram after u did the ser1.1? i heard it didn't work with the current drivers by ppctechs.
I doubt Fonix will work in the ROM as there are about 100 or so files that need to be copied as well as i'm not sure which files are being modified by the program and if they are being modified you will need to do a Ram copy before u can use it. all locations i guess u don't need either as t-mobile now offers unlimited GPRS. PI i'm not sure how its going to react to ROM install but u can try it and let me know if it works as i want to add it.
alex
128M w/ SER1.1
The 128 upgrade is split into 64M RAM and 64M "t2t storage card". I am able to access both of them quite easily with the driver installed.
The most impressive part, though it does make sense, is that I have only done soft resets and never a power cycle when installing the SER1.1 and therefore all files are still intact in the t2t storage card. Not bad for volatile RAM!
The only Fonix I'd really like in ROM is Voice Dial. I think I can get PI to work only because of the directory structure it uses. It places lots of files in the windows directory, but then puts all the 'writeable' files in the WebIS folder in my documents (at least as far as I can tell so far).
I'm just starting to play with snapview (since it came on SER1.1) to see what it will take to get this stuff crammed into ROM.
rdm128
Hi there
Thanks in addvance
Could any body help i think i read some ware in this forum that less files in windows folder meens that your device runs faster !!
I also think I read some program can only be installed to windows\ I Don't know which? programs need to be in which directory or is it all down to the reg enteries or is it dependent on the *.exe & *.dll files
If it is posible to install office mobile to something like \program files\OfficeMobile\ ?, Would there be any benifits for doing this ? or would i be wasting my time ?
It seems a lot of programs install into windows\
Easy - if you know how!
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Hi there
Thanks in addvance
Could any body help i think i read some ware in this forum that less files in windows folder meens that your device runs faster !!
I also think I read some program can only be installed to windows\ I Don't know which? programs need to be in which directory or is it all down to the reg enteries or is it dependent on the *.exe & *.dll files
If it is posible to install office mobile to something like \program files\OfficeMobile\ ?, Would there be any benifits for doing this ? or would i be wasting my time ?
It seems a lot of programs install into windows\
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Various options here mate (listed in order of user level):
In WM5+ you can choose to install to the Storage Card by default - any programs that cannot be installed here will usually tell you when you try, and ask you to try again in the correct folder.
Go get yourself a copy of a program called Pocket Mechanic and it has an option that lets you move programs to your storage card (it changes all the links/shortcuts and reg entries for you) - it can also move the 'My Documents folder and IE cache, too - saving even more space.
Find a program called CECabManager (30 day trial) which lets you edit the cab files for programs and change their default install folder.
WARNING
ALWAYS backup your device before playing around with this stuff - it's a real P.I.T.A. when you have got yourself almost set up, then you destroy the system, or cause a glitch!
My best advice is to go buy a copy of Spb Clone and install that before you fiddle about! Also, backup your PIM data to Outlook, or with Spb Backup, too! Then you're pretty much safe to do what you want, as you can always go back if all goes tits up!
Bird
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Various options here mate (listed in order of user level):
In WM5+ you can choose to install to the Storage Card by default - any programs that cannot be installed here will usually tell you when you try, and ask you to try again in the correct folder.
Go get yourself a copy of a program called Pocket Mechanic and it has an option that lets you move programs to your storage card (it changes all the links/shortcuts and reg entries for you) - it can also move the 'My Documents folder and IE cache, too - saving even more space.
Find a program called CECabManager (30 day trial) which lets you edit the cab files for programs and change their default install folder.
WARNING
ALWAYS backup your device before playing around with this stuff - it's a real P.I.T.A. when you have got yourself almost set up, then you destroy the system, or cause a glitch!
My best advice is to go buy a copy of Spb Clone and install that before you fiddle about! Also, backup your PIM data to Outlook, or with Spb Backup, too! Then you're pretty much safe to do what you want, as you can always go back if all goes tits up!
Bird
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Thanks Bird
PS do you know it doe's run faster whith les files in windows folder ?
Speed or Space?!?!
swampy395 said:
Thanks Bird
PS do you know it doe's run faster whith les files in windows folder ?
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No idea - anyone?
I think that if you have too little space, you'll be in trouble when some programs run as they may need to use it as RAM or a swap file - I've filled it to within a MB or 2 and it has slowed down the system!
See my post in this thread for how I keep space in my Storage area (at the bottom of the second post)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=388249
If you're looking to speed up your system, why not try an overclocking utility?
I've just got Pocket Hack Master - I'm testing it now! I've used Anton's Pocket Mechanic for ages now, and so I'm pretty confident in the quality of the app.
http://www.wizcode.com/products/view/pocket_hack_master
And there is a starter guide here:
http://www.wizcode.com/articles/comments/pocket-hack-master-speed-configuration-guide/
Let me know your results!
Bird
Thanks again bird
Don't fancy clocking my CPU realy wanting to know if it's worth the effort of hacking all my *.cab files and OEMs to install into sub folders rather than windows\ Idear been Keeping as little as posible in the windows\ "folder" I could have a sleep some times waiting for file explorer to finish opening windows\ was hopeing that if there's less in windows\ the device my run faster with a smaller directory ??
Thanks
swampy395
Possibly...
You could always try using Pocket Mechanic!!
Instead of hacking the cabs, you could just use Pocket Mechanic - it will move the programs across to your SD card and change all the reg entries, links, etc. for you!
I find that there are some cabs that really don't like to be hacked! But, if that's the route you want to go down (saves having to do it all again in the future), then CECabManager is definitely the way to go! Pretty pricey software, but gives you a nice 30 day trial period to play with it! Just remember to remove any 'setup.dll's' from the tree in the left-hand window if you change anything - can cause the install to muck up if you don't!
And the best bit of software on the net in my opinion is Spb Clone (god I love Spb software - it's just so good!) - once you get your system looking and working how you want it to, just clone the whole thing on to some spare space on your card and you're safe from any general errors! Use Pocket Mechanic to move all your documents, mail and cache folders onto the SD card and you're even safer - go one step further and get Spb Backup to save teh PIM data onto your SD, too and you get ultimate safety (as long as you remember to save reguarly LoL!):
PIM synced with main PC or onto SD with Spb Backup
Documents, mail and cache on SD
Clone of system on SD
Any screw ups, any dodgy software, ANY problems and you just go back a few days!
SORTED!! ​
Bird
Free even MORE space!!
Found a way to get even more space! Really helpful for me when I want to play certain games, as some of them were refusing to start as they needed more space than I had. I managed to claw back about 8meg, but then I have somewhat overloaded my BAs with about 250 apps/games! )
Using Pocket Mechanic, you can move the AppMgr file from the Windows directory of you BA onto your Storage Card - (the original folder structure will be recreated if you try to install anything new!) - when it's finished, just soft reset your BA and VIOLA! more space in the storage section.
***********NOTE***********
If you want to delete any of your apps - or even install a new version over the top of an old one, you have to move the corresponding folder from the AppMgr folder on your Storage Card back into Windows/ApMgr or the uninstall/reinstall will fail - If you haven't installed anything since you last moved the AppMgr folder, then you will have to create the AppMgr folder before moving the folder of the app you wish to delete.
Have fun,
I'm new here so please bare with me. I just bought a used Sprint Mogul and I'm looking to "play" with it a bit. Nothing real crazy as I've been scanning this forum over the last few days waiting for my phone to come in the mail and I just want to keep it simple. I have the programs that I want to load on the phone and I don't need to flash the ROM or anything like that to use these. My question is this. Do I need to unlock my phone to add these programs and how do I load them to my phone ? Do I need a special program to do this or can I just use active sync ? The instructions I have to load the programs are pretty simple but they do not tell me how to install them. Just the order to install them and soft reset etc. I have found some really cool things on this forum about my phone but as much as I have learned I also have alot of unanswered questions as well.
Thanks in advance.
Fairly simple....
If the program you want to install is an .exe file, then you will hook your phone up with the usb cable and let active sync do its thing. Then double click the file to install. Active sync will prompt you with the rest.
If the file is a .cab file, then transfer the file the way it is to your microsd card using the active sync browse. Browse to the folder you want to put it then drag and drop or copy/paste. Then on the phone, tap start/programs/ file explorer. Go to where the .cab file is and tap it! Thats all!
If you install a program you dont want installed anymore you can un-install it through start/settings/system remove programs.
Remember... the programs you use every time your phone is on... like dialer skins, today screen themes, rintones, etc install to device memory! Other programs like games, mp3 songs, videos, ebooks, etc can go to the microsd card!!
Good luck!
T
thundaar2000 said:
Fairly simple....
If the program you want to install is an .exe file, then you will hook your phone up with the usb cable and let active sync do its thing. Then double click the file to install. Active sync will prompt you with the rest.
If the file is a .cab file, then transfer the file the way it is to your microsd card using the active sync browse. Browse to the folder you want to put it then drag and drop or copy/paste. Then on the phone, tap start/programs/ file explorer. Go to where the .cab file is and tap it! Thats all!
If you install a program you dont want installed anymore you can un-install it through start/settings/system remove programs.
Remember... the programs you use every time your phone is on... like dialer skins, today screen themes, rintones, etc install to device memory! Other programs like games, mp3 songs, videos, ebooks, etc can go to the microsd card!!
Good luck!
T
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Thanks for the reply. Sounds pretty simple. I have another question. This is going to sound pretty dumb I'm sure but I'll ask anyway. The programs I'm going to load...will they over write the programs already on the phone ? I understand there is internal memory and this phone seems to be just like a pc. And I know that when memory gets low or used then things tend to slow down and run bad. BTW the programs I'm going to install are Manila2D and a few others. Don't know much about them but a friend of mine had them put on his Mogul and I like the way it looks and runs compared to the "stock" setup.
Thanks again.
I have another question to ask. Is there a way to back up your contacts list ? If I understand it right.....a "hard reset" will wipe your contacts list along with everything else you have put on the phone and not the sd card. Right ?
Hello everyone.
My wife recently picked up a Tilt2 and is migrating from her Palm TX.
She is looking for a replacement for Pocket Money, Pocket Quicken, and something else I've forgotten the name of but she's looking at SPB Pocket Plus, Pocket Finance Diary lite (from mobile9.com), and CryptoWallet, none of which did I find listed in Apps thread.
If anyone has used these apps are they not worth the cost? Are there any simular apps that perform better for less or free?
For games she is looking at Happy Lines, Uno (it is in the Apps list), and Matching Hearts; and would love other recommendations for any Bejeweled-like games. She also would like a music player which has a random play feature. I see several listed in the Apps thread but didnt research enough yet to see which has that.
Thanks for any and all help or comments.
Tim
Popatim said:
Hello everyone.
My wife recently picked up a Tilt2 and is migrating from her Palm TX.
She is looking for a replacement for Pocket Money, Pocket Quicken, and something else I've forgotten the name of but she's looking at SPB Pocket Plus, Pocket Finance Diary lite (from mobile9.com), and CryptoWallet, none of which did I find listed in Apps thread.
If anyone has used these apps are they not worth the cost? Are there any simular apps that perform better for less or free?
For games she is looking at Happy Lines, Uno (it is in the Apps list), and Matching Hearts; and would love other recommendations for any Bejeweled-like games. She also would like a music player which has a random play feature. I see several listed in the Apps thread but didnt research enough yet to see which has that.
Thanks for any and all help or comments.
Tim
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Hey Popa, welcome to this corner of the forums
The only question you asked that I can help with is the media player..I can tell you that the built-in HTC music player has a random play option, and it's a nice simple option if she doesn't need much flexibility. However, most any of the commonly used 3rd-party players (coreplayer, TCPMP, nitrogen, etc) certainly can do that as well, so you just have to gauge what else is important in a media player for her. WMP is also built-in of course, and also not half-bad for basic use.
One more thing to help you out...I'd highly recommend running the two cabs I've attached on her new phone. They change some settings in window's memory management that free up memory much faster when apps and processes are done using it...they'll save you a lot of headache when she would have come to you complaining because her new toy is running like molasses (which could still happen...keeping this phone running smoothly especially regarding memory can be a real challenge). The 3rd cab is up to you, but it's a very helpful utility written just for the Tilt2 called CrudScraper that lets you rip out a bunch of the stock apps (only the ones you choose) and crap that AT&T was nice enough to load it up with for you. It's not a cab though, just run the .exe from her SD card and it's self-explanatory from there. Let us know if you need instructions on running the cabs too.
Good luck! I'm sure you'll get some answers to your other questions soon...but if not, you might want to post in the general windows section of the xda forum since most of those programs will work on a lot more models than just the TP2, and you might get more exposure and response that way
SPB Pocket Plus works fine and syncs with Money. I liked the old money client you used to get better but it gets the job done.
hx4700 Killer said:
SPB Pocket Plus works fine and syncs with Money. I liked the old money client you used to get better but it gets the job done.
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Hmm, are you sure you're not confusing Pocket Plus with something else (e.g. SPB Finance)? Pocket Plus is more of a system utility, that doesn't sync with anything. Besides, not all features of Pocket Plus are compatible with WM6.5, so that's something else to take into account.
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One more thing to help you out...I'd highly recommend running the two cabs I've attached on her new phone. They change some settings in window's memory management that free up memory much faster when apps and processes are done using it...they'll save you a lot of headache when she would have come to you complaining because her new toy is running like molasses (which could still happen...keeping this phone running smoothly especially regarding memory can be a real challenge). The 3rd cab is up to you, but it's a very helpful utility written just for the Tilt2 called CrudScraper that lets you rip out a bunch of the stock apps (only the ones you choose) and crap that AT&T was nice enough to load it up with for you. It's not a cab though, just run the .exe from her SD card and it's self-explanatory from
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i have a question:
1. NoPushInternet_v2.CAB - where do you install device or storage and do you do anything after install, also do i leave the installed cab on my device or can i uninstall it with its done?
2. SSK TP2 Dynamic Resource Proxy.cab - same question?
thanks
apax said:
i have a question:
1. NoPushInternet_v2.CAB - where do you install device or storage and do you do anything after install, also do i leave the installed cab on my device or can i uninstall it with its done?
2. SSK TP2 Dynamic Resource Proxy.cab - same question?
thanks
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Install them both to the device, they're very small, and then once you do that you can delete the cab if you want...though I recommend keeping a copy on the SD card of any cabs that you use, so you can reapply them easily if you ever hard-reset. These automatically run in the background once installed, no need to manually start anything.
apax said:
i have a question:
1. NoPushInternet_v2.CAB - where do you install device or storage and do you do anything after install, also do i leave the installed cab on my device or can i uninstall it with its done?
2. SSK TP2 Dynamic Resource Proxy.cab - same question?
thanks
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Install them both to the device, they're very small, and then once you do that you can delete the cab if you want...though I recommend keeping a copy on the SD card of any cabs that you use, so you can reapply them easily if you ever hard-reset. These automatically run in the background once installed, no need to manually start anything.
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thanks for the quick response...
sirphunkee said:
Install them both to the device, they're very small, and then once you do that you can delete the cab if you want...though I recommend keeping a copy on the SD card of any cabs that you use, so you can reapply them easily if you ever hard-reset. These automatically run in the background once installed, no need to manually start anything.
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I have been running these cabs for a few weeks now. it seems they stop working after a while. I have noticed my mem usage was in 65-70% again and even after a soft reset, stil up there. Only thing that works is reinstalling the SSK TP2 cab then miraculously back down to 49%. Am i missing something on keeping these running in the bckgrnd? i mean i dont mind reinstalling but feel kinda silly doing it over and over.
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Joe
hi!
i have been trolling around xda for weeks and finally here is my first post..
im having some problems getting rid of the software that came bundled with the tmous hd2. when i go to settings(sense)->applications->remove programs, i see JUST the b&n ereader listed there.
i seem to have irretrievably lost my sd card and i suspect some of the bundled software was preinstalled on the sd card itself. i was able to spot the rest (like slacker, telenav, etc.) in the program files of my device memory.
the problems are that:
1) the start menu is still cluttered with icons of apps that dont exist (due to lost sd card). nothing happens when i run them.
2) even the apps that do exist (like telenav - installed on my device memory), i dont know how to uninstall.
i really need some way to clean up my phone... any way to solve the above problems?
thanks!
p.s.:
i suspect that the b&n ereader is listed in 'remove programs' because i ran that software and updated it over wifi - which led to a fresh install.
my rom is 2.13 if thats of any use...
The thorough way is to use a cooked ROM. But if you don't want to go that way, you can go though and comb through the phone memory>windows and the start menu folders and delete stuff that belong to the apps (but be careful about what you delete, you don't want to delete important system stuff)
chvvkumar said:
The thorough way is to use a cooked ROM. But if you don't want to go that way, you can go though and comb through the phone memory>windows and the start menu folders and delete stuff that belong to the apps (but be careful about what you delete, you don't want to delete important system stuff)
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i thought of doing that. but drawing a parallel from windows (PC), what you are suggesting is that i should delete all program folders & shortcuts manually instead of using the control panel->add/remove option.
but that is sure to leave behind orphaned registry entries, dlls etc. just like in windows (PC)? and any windows(PC) user knows that that isnt a very pretty way of doing things...
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i thought of doing that. but drawing a parallel from windows (PC), what you are suggesting is that i should delete all program folders & shortcuts manually instead of using the control panel->add/remove option.
but that is sure to leave behind orphaned registry entries, dlls etc. just like in windows (PC)? and any windows(PC) user knows that that isnt a very pretty way of doing things...
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it will leave the registry entries. I have made a lite rom that you can use if you don't want any traces of the programs on your device. look in my signature
Silenced, the catch is that it's not possible to remove apps that are baked into the stock ROM through any regular means (i.e. the add/remove dialog). In your case the best thing is to just clean up + organize your /windows/start menu folder...you can delete or move any of the ".lnk" files in there as they're just shortcuts to the same thing in the /windows folder. Just remember that if you move something that's attached to a quicklink on your home tab, you'll have to dump the quicklink and recreate it after moving the .lnk file.
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Silenced, the catch is that it's not possible to remove apps that are baked into the stock ROM through any regular means (i.e. the add/remove dialog)
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hmm you're right... i remember that even a hard reset i did yesterday didnt change the state of these apps.
apps stored in rom arent going to make any difference to the phone's performance anyway. so ill just follow the cleanup method you all suggest for now... i have had this phone for just about 24 hours now. its my first killer phone (i upgraded from nokia e65) and am in no state of mind to start flashing cooked roms yet
i wonder if there are any registry cleaners for windows CE.
thanks all!
silenced3 said:
i wonder if there are any registry cleaners for windows CE.
thanks all!
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Yes, MemMaid has a registry cleaning function/option...there may be others, but that's the one I know.
As for all the stuff you'll need to learn for your HD2, make sure you read the guide below (if you haven't already):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=688928