I'm new here so please bare with me. I just bought a used Sprint Mogul and I'm looking to "play" with it a bit. Nothing real crazy as I've been scanning this forum over the last few days waiting for my phone to come in the mail and I just want to keep it simple. I have the programs that I want to load on the phone and I don't need to flash the ROM or anything like that to use these. My question is this. Do I need to unlock my phone to add these programs and how do I load them to my phone ? Do I need a special program to do this or can I just use active sync ? The instructions I have to load the programs are pretty simple but they do not tell me how to install them. Just the order to install them and soft reset etc. I have found some really cool things on this forum about my phone but as much as I have learned I also have alot of unanswered questions as well.
Thanks in advance.
Fairly simple....
If the program you want to install is an .exe file, then you will hook your phone up with the usb cable and let active sync do its thing. Then double click the file to install. Active sync will prompt you with the rest.
If the file is a .cab file, then transfer the file the way it is to your microsd card using the active sync browse. Browse to the folder you want to put it then drag and drop or copy/paste. Then on the phone, tap start/programs/ file explorer. Go to where the .cab file is and tap it! Thats all!
If you install a program you dont want installed anymore you can un-install it through start/settings/system remove programs.
Remember... the programs you use every time your phone is on... like dialer skins, today screen themes, rintones, etc install to device memory! Other programs like games, mp3 songs, videos, ebooks, etc can go to the microsd card!!
Good luck!
T
thundaar2000 said:
Fairly simple....
If the program you want to install is an .exe file, then you will hook your phone up with the usb cable and let active sync do its thing. Then double click the file to install. Active sync will prompt you with the rest.
If the file is a .cab file, then transfer the file the way it is to your microsd card using the active sync browse. Browse to the folder you want to put it then drag and drop or copy/paste. Then on the phone, tap start/programs/ file explorer. Go to where the .cab file is and tap it! Thats all!
If you install a program you dont want installed anymore you can un-install it through start/settings/system remove programs.
Remember... the programs you use every time your phone is on... like dialer skins, today screen themes, rintones, etc install to device memory! Other programs like games, mp3 songs, videos, ebooks, etc can go to the microsd card!!
Good luck!
T
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Thanks for the reply. Sounds pretty simple. I have another question. This is going to sound pretty dumb I'm sure but I'll ask anyway. The programs I'm going to load...will they over write the programs already on the phone ? I understand there is internal memory and this phone seems to be just like a pc. And I know that when memory gets low or used then things tend to slow down and run bad. BTW the programs I'm going to install are Manila2D and a few others. Don't know much about them but a friend of mine had them put on his Mogul and I like the way it looks and runs compared to the "stock" setup.
Thanks again.
I have another question to ask. Is there a way to back up your contacts list ? If I understand it right.....a "hard reset" will wipe your contacts list along with everything else you have put on the phone and not the sd card. Right ?
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Hi there
Thanks in addvance
Could any body help i think i read some ware in this forum that less files in windows folder meens that your device runs faster !!
I also think I read some program can only be installed to windows\ I Don't know which? programs need to be in which directory or is it all down to the reg enteries or is it dependent on the *.exe & *.dll files
If it is posible to install office mobile to something like \program files\OfficeMobile\ ?, Would there be any benifits for doing this ? or would i be wasting my time ?
It seems a lot of programs install into windows\
Easy - if you know how!
swampy395 said:
Hi there
Thanks in addvance
Could any body help i think i read some ware in this forum that less files in windows folder meens that your device runs faster !!
I also think I read some program can only be installed to windows\ I Don't know which? programs need to be in which directory or is it all down to the reg enteries or is it dependent on the *.exe & *.dll files
If it is posible to install office mobile to something like \program files\OfficeMobile\ ?, Would there be any benifits for doing this ? or would i be wasting my time ?
It seems a lot of programs install into windows\
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Various options here mate (listed in order of user level):
In WM5+ you can choose to install to the Storage Card by default - any programs that cannot be installed here will usually tell you when you try, and ask you to try again in the correct folder.
Go get yourself a copy of a program called Pocket Mechanic and it has an option that lets you move programs to your storage card (it changes all the links/shortcuts and reg entries for you) - it can also move the 'My Documents folder and IE cache, too - saving even more space.
Find a program called CECabManager (30 day trial) which lets you edit the cab files for programs and change their default install folder.
WARNING
ALWAYS backup your device before playing around with this stuff - it's a real P.I.T.A. when you have got yourself almost set up, then you destroy the system, or cause a glitch!
My best advice is to go buy a copy of Spb Clone and install that before you fiddle about! Also, backup your PIM data to Outlook, or with Spb Backup, too! Then you're pretty much safe to do what you want, as you can always go back if all goes tits up!
Bird
Bird_FAT said:
Various options here mate (listed in order of user level):
In WM5+ you can choose to install to the Storage Card by default - any programs that cannot be installed here will usually tell you when you try, and ask you to try again in the correct folder.
Go get yourself a copy of a program called Pocket Mechanic and it has an option that lets you move programs to your storage card (it changes all the links/shortcuts and reg entries for you) - it can also move the 'My Documents folder and IE cache, too - saving even more space.
Find a program called CECabManager (30 day trial) which lets you edit the cab files for programs and change their default install folder.
WARNING
ALWAYS backup your device before playing around with this stuff - it's a real P.I.T.A. when you have got yourself almost set up, then you destroy the system, or cause a glitch!
My best advice is to go buy a copy of Spb Clone and install that before you fiddle about! Also, backup your PIM data to Outlook, or with Spb Backup, too! Then you're pretty much safe to do what you want, as you can always go back if all goes tits up!
Bird
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Thanks Bird
PS do you know it doe's run faster whith les files in windows folder ?
Speed or Space?!?!
swampy395 said:
Thanks Bird
PS do you know it doe's run faster whith les files in windows folder ?
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No idea - anyone?
I think that if you have too little space, you'll be in trouble when some programs run as they may need to use it as RAM or a swap file - I've filled it to within a MB or 2 and it has slowed down the system!
See my post in this thread for how I keep space in my Storage area (at the bottom of the second post)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=388249
If you're looking to speed up your system, why not try an overclocking utility?
I've just got Pocket Hack Master - I'm testing it now! I've used Anton's Pocket Mechanic for ages now, and so I'm pretty confident in the quality of the app.
http://www.wizcode.com/products/view/pocket_hack_master
And there is a starter guide here:
http://www.wizcode.com/articles/comments/pocket-hack-master-speed-configuration-guide/
Let me know your results!
Bird
Thanks again bird
Don't fancy clocking my CPU realy wanting to know if it's worth the effort of hacking all my *.cab files and OEMs to install into sub folders rather than windows\ Idear been Keeping as little as posible in the windows\ "folder" I could have a sleep some times waiting for file explorer to finish opening windows\ was hopeing that if there's less in windows\ the device my run faster with a smaller directory ??
Thanks
swampy395
Possibly...
You could always try using Pocket Mechanic!!
Instead of hacking the cabs, you could just use Pocket Mechanic - it will move the programs across to your SD card and change all the reg entries, links, etc. for you!
I find that there are some cabs that really don't like to be hacked! But, if that's the route you want to go down (saves having to do it all again in the future), then CECabManager is definitely the way to go! Pretty pricey software, but gives you a nice 30 day trial period to play with it! Just remember to remove any 'setup.dll's' from the tree in the left-hand window if you change anything - can cause the install to muck up if you don't!
And the best bit of software on the net in my opinion is Spb Clone (god I love Spb software - it's just so good!) - once you get your system looking and working how you want it to, just clone the whole thing on to some spare space on your card and you're safe from any general errors! Use Pocket Mechanic to move all your documents, mail and cache folders onto the SD card and you're even safer - go one step further and get Spb Backup to save teh PIM data onto your SD, too and you get ultimate safety (as long as you remember to save reguarly LoL!):
PIM synced with main PC or onto SD with Spb Backup
Documents, mail and cache on SD
Clone of system on SD
Any screw ups, any dodgy software, ANY problems and you just go back a few days!
SORTED!!
Bird
Free even MORE space!!
Found a way to get even more space! Really helpful for me when I want to play certain games, as some of them were refusing to start as they needed more space than I had. I managed to claw back about 8meg, but then I have somewhat overloaded my BAs with about 250 apps/games! )
Using Pocket Mechanic, you can move the AppMgr file from the Windows directory of you BA onto your Storage Card - (the original folder structure will be recreated if you try to install anything new!) - when it's finished, just soft reset your BA and VIOLA! more space in the storage section.
***********NOTE***********
If you want to delete any of your apps - or even install a new version over the top of an old one, you have to move the corresponding folder from the AppMgr folder on your Storage Card back into Windows/ApMgr or the uninstall/reinstall will fail - If you haven't installed anything since you last moved the AppMgr folder, then you will have to create the AppMgr folder before moving the folder of the app you wish to delete.
Have fun,
hi all,
i've been looking for an answer to this problem, and I don't like to ask seemingly redundant question, but you guys are the pros.
so here's my problem. i just got my second 8525 and am trying to install all my favorite programs,ie-ptt disable, battery meter, new today screen, but i can't get any cab files to save, transfer, open/extract to my phone. i have the 2.0 .NET framework(i think was my problem first phone) but my pc doesn't/won't recognize my phone as a viable file recipient.
Any ideas? Thank you greatly!!!
upgrade to .net 3.5...
weiky79 said:
hi all,
i've been looking for an answer to this problem, and I don't like to ask seemingly redundant question, but you guys are the pros.
so here's my problem. i just got my second 8525 and am trying to install all my favorite programs,ie-ptt disable, battery meter, new today screen, but i can't get any cab files to save, transfer, open/extract to my phone. i have the 2.0 .NET framework(i think was my problem first phone) but my pc doesn't/won't recognize my phone as a viable file recipient.
Any ideas? Thank you greatly!!!
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Well yes you can upgrade the .net framework. But I wonder if you are trying to extract the cab files before transfering them to the phone?
Just use activesync explore mode to transfer the cab files (unextracted) to the phone or sd card and then on the phone use file explorer to find them and tap on them.
Things that run all the time and on today screen install to main memory, all the rest install to sdcard (choice appears when you tap on the cab file)
Mike
ok.....i'm going to upgrade to 3.5 but one question still remains. When I try to save .zip/.cab files from the net it only allows me to save to my pc, NOT my phone. in fact, there isn't even an option to save to phone. SO, i thought it would be fine to save to pc then transfer these files to my phone afterwards. NOPE! it's crazy, but my vaio pc doesn't even recognize my phone period. only activesync sees my phone. so, what would be the cause of this file transfer problem?
weiky79 said:
ok.....i'm going to upgrade to 3.5 but one question still remains. When I try to save .zip/.cab files from the net it only allows me to save to my pc, NOT my phone. in fact, there isn't even an option to save to phone. SO, i thought it would be fine to save to pc then transfer these files to my phone afterwards. NOPE! it's crazy, but my vaio pc doesn't even recognize my phone period. only activesync sees my phone. so, what would be the cause of this file transfer problem?
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Save the cab file on your pc, go into activesync and select explore......then drag and drop the file onto the explore window. Simple
well, i dL the 3.5 .NET framework. no problems there, but my original problem still exists. I can't open any files to my 8525. when i try to copy or send from pc to phone, my phone isn't even recognized. when i explore my phone and try to push a file through, it doesn't work. This is probably some ridiculous formality, but I can't figure it out! It's starting to really irritate me now
-Weiky79
wow...I feel like a moron. i looked and looked for the answer and finally found it. i googled it, and saw on 2 different sites that there's a box that needs to be unchecked in the usb to pc button under the connections menu. the button is the 'enable network functionality' that needs to be unchecked. i still have intermittent problems installing programs on here, activesync randomly recognizes my phone now, but at least now I'm getting programs installed. Hope this helps everyone
weiky79 said:
wow...I feel like a moron. i looked and looked for the answer and finally found it. i googled it, and saw on 2 different sites that there's a box that needs to be unchecked in the usb to pc button under the connections menu. the button is the 'enable network functionality' that needs to be unchecked. i still have intermittent problems installing programs on here, activesync randomly recognizes my phone now, but at least now I'm getting programs installed. Hope this helps everyone
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Agh right - I see what the problem was now - I think we were slightly misunderstanding the problem.
Good news - happy days
Mike
I am fairly new to this forum and I am sure this has been explain on here once before. But I though this might be a little easier than searching through countless pages of posts. I want to know if there is a way to clear up the program memory. If I could I would like to be able to delete the Office mobile stuff if that would help. Dont see a need for it since I work on macs mostly. Of if there is way to trim it down. At the moment my program memory is 43.87 MB and it says 40.91MB is in use but I only have window media running and only 3MB available. Is there something I can do. What is taking up all memory. Even after a soft reset. The most I have ever seen it go up to is like 14MB and that is just for a while then it begins to rundown. Thanks for you help in advanced.
Carlos
CleanRAM - http://thewingster.com/cleanram.aspx
Thanks Ace..good work..is there a way to get into the registry and delete some of the office mobile stuff, like work powerpoint and excel or would I have to do a complete flash
toreone said:
Thanks Ace..good work..is there a way to get into the registry and delete some of the office mobile stuff, like work powerpoint and excel or would I have to do a complete flash
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You would have to flash a ROM without Office Mobile. Look on The Wingster (http://thewingster.com/roms.aspx) and find a ROM that doesn't include Office Mobile. I tell you if it doesn't include it, so it should be fairly easy to identify that.
But going into the registry wouldn't be where you'd delete that stuff. You'd find it in the file explorer, \Windows. I'm not sure if you can delete those files though. I'd just flash one of the numerous ROM's that doesn't include Office Mobile, there's many of them.
Office Mobile is in most cases (there are CABs out there, so that you can install it on stirage card) in the ROM and can't be deleted in an easy way. The File Explorer doesn't delete it. Midnight Commander can delete files, which are in the Main ROM, but only use if you know what you're doing! This program can delete all files - important system files, too!
The most easy way is, as ace already said, to flash a rom without Office Mobile. But be careful and read a lot before you flash a new rom! A broken flash may cause a broken phone!
That is one of my biggest fears is bricking my phone and not being able to bring it back. I am currently running SPB Mobile 3.0 and I like that a lot. That is what I would like to run permanently. Maybe when i upgrade or buy a new phone I will practice on my old wing. Thanks guys for the info!
program mem == application mem
storage mem == files on your device
application mem is used by programming which are running nothing else
storage mem is used by files stored on your device
freeing up app mem don't give more storage and virsa versa
Hi,
I just bought a HTC HD2 (Leo). I've looked around in all the forums and can't find the info I'm looking for plus all the answers to all the other questions I have.
My first question is, how can I save directly to the SD card instead of the phone memory? I've looked everywhere to find an answer to that and I've even contacted the HTC support (in Sweden) but no luck. Does anybody know? Is it possible? I have a ton more questions, but I can only ask one at a time, if i understood the rules correctly.....
Sorry, but what are you trying to save, an example may help. Usually you are asked where you want to save something. Also treat yourself to Resco Explorer at some point. Makes working with files so much easier.
For example, when I send files from my old phone (photos, music etc.) it just saves it on the phone memory. It fills up my phone completely and at once. I had to move the files to the SD memory but everything didn't fit on the phonememory. I don't get any question where I want to save my files. Is there any way (that someone knows about) where I can change that? And thanks for the tip about the download, I will check that out! And I can't whatch divx movies on my phone - any tips?
Hmmm, see I used Windows Media Player to sync music and photos and it gave me the option where to sync to. I guess the problem is if you are going direct from Phone to phone you aren't getting the same level of configuration.
I believe Coreplayer is for DivX.
Free DivX layer here
Thank you for the link!! Been looking for that one. Since I'm new to windowsphones, do you know of any link (tutorial) where I can learn how to install coreplayer (and other apps - like flash and others)?
Things will either come as Install packages that are run from your PC while the device is connected via Activesync or WMDC. Alternatively applications are downloaded as .cab files which you stick somewhere on your storage card and run them from within File Explorer.
Thank you for helping a novice out! I'm gonna try it out!
HI, i have seen on this WM6.5 that i can't add any program (ie one thats not say google maps or one of those big companies)
i can run the program via file manager and clicking the application .exe
the phone still wont see the application as a program.
i had a jasjam before and the prgrams i am trying to add worked fine but now on 6.5 cant do this.
the only way is to run these apps, well not run but to get a short cut, is on a program like CHome but then i move away from HTC sense start up display that is nicer looking.
like i said the programs work fine, just can see them in programs.
anything that will help?
cheers
have you posted a shortcut to your windows\start menu\programs\
I'm running 6.5 and any time I have a program installed on my sd card or trying to run an .exe from the storage card (or even if the .exe is just in another folder) thats what I do and it shows in my start menu or whatever subfolder I put it in in the start menu.
Aaron McCarthy said:
have you posted a shortcut to your windows\start menu\programs\
I'm running 6.5 and any time I have a program installed on my sd card or trying to run an .exe from the storage card (or even if the .exe is just in another folder) thats what I do and it shows in my start menu or whatever subfolder I put it in in the start menu.
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Yeap, in programs folder as an .exe, other folders like goggle maps are there too. The programs still don't show or work. Should i not try and get an .cab version? since looking into this takes you into trying to understand a pda rather than a PC. The .exe files still cant be seen, i have to run them via file explorer, although now loaded a short cut via button strokes so am using that to make the task a little easier.
I ran a .cab file on another program and found it distributed files with icons and other th9ngs that seem to integrate better into the host rather than an .exe
Also been looking at all the apps these phones can have its amazing.
I have one on my phone that can change a set of traffic lights in my city!
With authorisation of course, its my job, just saying how the PDA has really started to take off. become the real modern Swiss army knife.