HI, i have seen on this WM6.5 that i can't add any program (ie one thats not say google maps or one of those big companies)
i can run the program via file manager and clicking the application .exe
the phone still wont see the application as a program.
i had a jasjam before and the prgrams i am trying to add worked fine but now on 6.5 cant do this.
the only way is to run these apps, well not run but to get a short cut, is on a program like CHome but then i move away from HTC sense start up display that is nicer looking.
like i said the programs work fine, just can see them in programs.
anything that will help?
cheers
have you posted a shortcut to your windows\start menu\programs\
I'm running 6.5 and any time I have a program installed on my sd card or trying to run an .exe from the storage card (or even if the .exe is just in another folder) thats what I do and it shows in my start menu or whatever subfolder I put it in in the start menu.
Aaron McCarthy said:
have you posted a shortcut to your windows\start menu\programs\
I'm running 6.5 and any time I have a program installed on my sd card or trying to run an .exe from the storage card (or even if the .exe is just in another folder) thats what I do and it shows in my start menu or whatever subfolder I put it in in the start menu.
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Yeap, in programs folder as an .exe, other folders like goggle maps are there too. The programs still don't show or work. Should i not try and get an .cab version? since looking into this takes you into trying to understand a pda rather than a PC. The .exe files still cant be seen, i have to run them via file explorer, although now loaded a short cut via button strokes so am using that to make the task a little easier.
I ran a .cab file on another program and found it distributed files with icons and other th9ngs that seem to integrate better into the host rather than an .exe
Also been looking at all the apps these phones can have its amazing.
I have one on my phone that can change a set of traffic lights in my city!
With authorisation of course, its my job, just saying how the PDA has really started to take off. become the real modern Swiss army knife.
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Does anyone have a hack that would allow me to view and save data files at a lower folder than the first level?
I.e. my folder structure is \Personal\Financial\ but excel and word can only see files stored under \Personal\ and not the next folder down. I need to be able to access this second level from within the application.
Would be a great help to me.
If you haven't installed Mad Programmer's dialog changer, you're not using your pda properly.
http://www.pocketpcmag.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=17133
V
Thanks vijay555 but this is not in relation to installing apps.
There is a particular problem in WM2003 whereby if I store for example my pocket excel files in the folder:
\Financial\Spreadsheets\
I cannot access this folder from Pocket Excel but only from File Explorer. Pocket excel will only show the files existing in the folder "Financial" here. It means that when I create a new excel (or any other document) from within the application, I have to save it to the "financial" directory first, then manually move it to the next folder down.
Same applies to Pocket Word, Listpro etc files (any files in fact).
Paul
pauldcullen: although the link I gave is talking about installing cabs and stuff, Mad Programmer's dialog changer hooks into the OS and changes all of the rubbish OS dialogs (that only allow you to see My documents etc) and replaces them with the more advanced kind that let you navigate anywhere.
The link I gave is a useful one on installing the app itself, because Mad Programmer's website is generally Japanese. But hopefully, try installing the app and you should be able to navigate anywhere for saving files.
http://www.geocities.co.jp/SiliconValley-Cupertino/2039
Ensure you use the right version for your OS.
V
thanks a lot I'll give it a shot - any stability problems with it?
I've never had any and used it for > 1year on both Wm2003 and Wm5.
V
vijay I've installed it and it seems to work for SAVING new files into a sub-directory which in itself is great!
However, as soon as I OPEN pocket excel etc, I cannot see these files in the subfolders, only those in the parent folder - any ideas?
Thanks for your help!
Paul
Hmm, I just noticed that...
It seens mad programmer only hooked the saving, not opening dialogs.
Not the best option I know, but I never open files using word, I use gsfinder to locate them and open directly by double clicking.
Other then that, I don't think Word was "designed" to show the subfolders as you've got them configured. PITA I know.
V
I've updated with no problems several times but can't for the life of me find any way to add programs such as vncviewer and putty which are on my storage card to the programs menu.
can it be done?
actually i had this question too *bump* haha
cmccarter said:
I've updated with no problems several times but can't for the life of me find any way to add programs such as vncviewer and putty which are on my storage card to the programs menu.
can it be done?
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Sure. Easiest way: in ActiveSync (on your PC), "explore" your PocketPC. Find the executable you want to have in the programs screen, then drag it WITH THE RIGHT MOUSE BUTTON to the Windos\Start Menu\Programs folder of your PocketPC. When you release the right mouse button, chose "create shortcut". That's all. Oh, you may want to rename the shortcur you just created to something nicer.
Cheers
tadzio
cmccarter said:
I've updated with no problems several times but can't for the life of me find any way to add programs such as vncviewer and putty which are on my storage card to the programs menu.
can it be done?
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Some programs do not create a nice shortcut in your program list. You can however create one and put it there yourself.
There are different ways to do this but what I do is:
Connect to PC with active sync
Use the explorer option on PC part of active sync.
Track down the place where your program is. (maybe in it's own folder on storage card or or in a programs folder on the sd card.
When you find the executable file that launches the program - create a shortcut (right click mouse to get the option)
Right click to "cut" the shortcut you have created and go navigate to:
The Windows folder on the Hermes. Keep navigating to the Start Menu folder and then the Programs folder.
In the programs folder right click and paste the shortcut you created.
Now when you go to programs you will find your program listed.
Mike
Hi there
Thanks in addvance
Could any body help i think i read some ware in this forum that less files in windows folder meens that your device runs faster !!
I also think I read some program can only be installed to windows\ I Don't know which? programs need to be in which directory or is it all down to the reg enteries or is it dependent on the *.exe & *.dll files
If it is posible to install office mobile to something like \program files\OfficeMobile\ ?, Would there be any benifits for doing this ? or would i be wasting my time ?
It seems a lot of programs install into windows\
Easy - if you know how!
swampy395 said:
Hi there
Thanks in addvance
Could any body help i think i read some ware in this forum that less files in windows folder meens that your device runs faster !!
I also think I read some program can only be installed to windows\ I Don't know which? programs need to be in which directory or is it all down to the reg enteries or is it dependent on the *.exe & *.dll files
If it is posible to install office mobile to something like \program files\OfficeMobile\ ?, Would there be any benifits for doing this ? or would i be wasting my time ?
It seems a lot of programs install into windows\
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Various options here mate (listed in order of user level):
In WM5+ you can choose to install to the Storage Card by default - any programs that cannot be installed here will usually tell you when you try, and ask you to try again in the correct folder.
Go get yourself a copy of a program called Pocket Mechanic and it has an option that lets you move programs to your storage card (it changes all the links/shortcuts and reg entries for you) - it can also move the 'My Documents folder and IE cache, too - saving even more space.
Find a program called CECabManager (30 day trial) which lets you edit the cab files for programs and change their default install folder.
WARNING
ALWAYS backup your device before playing around with this stuff - it's a real P.I.T.A. when you have got yourself almost set up, then you destroy the system, or cause a glitch!
My best advice is to go buy a copy of Spb Clone and install that before you fiddle about! Also, backup your PIM data to Outlook, or with Spb Backup, too! Then you're pretty much safe to do what you want, as you can always go back if all goes tits up!
Bird
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Various options here mate (listed in order of user level):
In WM5+ you can choose to install to the Storage Card by default - any programs that cannot be installed here will usually tell you when you try, and ask you to try again in the correct folder.
Go get yourself a copy of a program called Pocket Mechanic and it has an option that lets you move programs to your storage card (it changes all the links/shortcuts and reg entries for you) - it can also move the 'My Documents folder and IE cache, too - saving even more space.
Find a program called CECabManager (30 day trial) which lets you edit the cab files for programs and change their default install folder.
WARNING
ALWAYS backup your device before playing around with this stuff - it's a real P.I.T.A. when you have got yourself almost set up, then you destroy the system, or cause a glitch!
My best advice is to go buy a copy of Spb Clone and install that before you fiddle about! Also, backup your PIM data to Outlook, or with Spb Backup, too! Then you're pretty much safe to do what you want, as you can always go back if all goes tits up!
Bird
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Thanks Bird
PS do you know it doe's run faster whith les files in windows folder ?
Speed or Space?!?!
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Thanks Bird
PS do you know it doe's run faster whith les files in windows folder ?
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No idea - anyone?
I think that if you have too little space, you'll be in trouble when some programs run as they may need to use it as RAM or a swap file - I've filled it to within a MB or 2 and it has slowed down the system!
See my post in this thread for how I keep space in my Storage area (at the bottom of the second post)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=388249
If you're looking to speed up your system, why not try an overclocking utility?
I've just got Pocket Hack Master - I'm testing it now! I've used Anton's Pocket Mechanic for ages now, and so I'm pretty confident in the quality of the app.
http://www.wizcode.com/products/view/pocket_hack_master
And there is a starter guide here:
http://www.wizcode.com/articles/comments/pocket-hack-master-speed-configuration-guide/
Let me know your results!
Bird
Thanks again bird
Don't fancy clocking my CPU realy wanting to know if it's worth the effort of hacking all my *.cab files and OEMs to install into sub folders rather than windows\ Idear been Keeping as little as posible in the windows\ "folder" I could have a sleep some times waiting for file explorer to finish opening windows\ was hopeing that if there's less in windows\ the device my run faster with a smaller directory ??
Thanks
swampy395
Possibly...
You could always try using Pocket Mechanic!!
Instead of hacking the cabs, you could just use Pocket Mechanic - it will move the programs across to your SD card and change all the reg entries, links, etc. for you!
I find that there are some cabs that really don't like to be hacked! But, if that's the route you want to go down (saves having to do it all again in the future), then CECabManager is definitely the way to go! Pretty pricey software, but gives you a nice 30 day trial period to play with it! Just remember to remove any 'setup.dll's' from the tree in the left-hand window if you change anything - can cause the install to muck up if you don't!
And the best bit of software on the net in my opinion is Spb Clone (god I love Spb software - it's just so good!) - once you get your system looking and working how you want it to, just clone the whole thing on to some spare space on your card and you're safe from any general errors! Use Pocket Mechanic to move all your documents, mail and cache folders onto the SD card and you're even safer - go one step further and get Spb Backup to save teh PIM data onto your SD, too and you get ultimate safety (as long as you remember to save reguarly LoL!):
PIM synced with main PC or onto SD with Spb Backup
Documents, mail and cache on SD
Clone of system on SD
Any screw ups, any dodgy software, ANY problems and you just go back a few days!
SORTED!!
Bird
Free even MORE space!!
Found a way to get even more space! Really helpful for me when I want to play certain games, as some of them were refusing to start as they needed more space than I had. I managed to claw back about 8meg, but then I have somewhat overloaded my BAs with about 250 apps/games! )
Using Pocket Mechanic, you can move the AppMgr file from the Windows directory of you BA onto your Storage Card - (the original folder structure will be recreated if you try to install anything new!) - when it's finished, just soft reset your BA and VIOLA! more space in the storage section.
***********NOTE***********
If you want to delete any of your apps - or even install a new version over the top of an old one, you have to move the corresponding folder from the AppMgr folder on your Storage Card back into Windows/ApMgr or the uninstall/reinstall will fail - If you haven't installed anything since you last moved the AppMgr folder, then you will have to create the AppMgr folder before moving the folder of the app you wish to delete.
Have fun,
My Start Menu is really crowded. The Custom ROM I had on my TP2 had the icons sorted into folders -- which I really liked -- so I'm trying to do that on my HD2.
Doing that through File Explorer seems tedious, however, whenever I navigate to the Start Menu folder on my PC with the phone hooked up via USB, I can't move icons into folders, I'm told I don't have the permissions.
Any fix?
Also, is there any way to get the Start Menu (and it's folders) to sort themselves like Windows Explorer typically sorts files -- folders first, files second, and after that alphabetically?
I'm using Windows Mobile 6.5.5 if it makes any difference.
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Would appreciate help.
I'm not aware of any editor for the start menu I'm afraid, but I'm happy to be proven wrong.
I've tidied mine before now, but just using the method you suggested and using totaly commander. At least I could multi-select links, rather than move them 1-by-1.
Sorry mate.
Maybe i'm missing something, but I can't replicate the problem? I have just tested this, and I can quite happily browse to the windows/start menu/programs folder of my mobile from my pc, (it takes quite a while to open the windows folder, maybe 2 minutes) , then create folders and move links around without a problem. Is that what you are trying to do?
<Edit>Using windows 7 ultra, and i have the allow all programs tweak from bsb tweaks, doesn't that set the permissions in teh registry to something less controlling?
I´m looking for a tool that not only sorts the icons but also changes the registry settings for the links. That means that if you uninstall the program the start menu icon is also removed and so on...
I deleted the following shortcuts "Transformers", "MobiTV", "Market Place" and "YouTube" from Windows/Start Menu/Program, thinking they were redundant since they were already on the home screen. But while the icons are still on the home screen, I can't get to the four programs by tapping on the icons; instead, I got the error message about "Shortcut Target" saying "Error opening the shortcut or locating the target filename".
I was able to find the "MobiTV" and "Transformers" folders, but I could not create shortcuts from the .exe files since the "Create shortcut" was gray and did not respond to taps. My questions are: (1) How do I re-create those four shortcuts that would make the icons on the home screen work again? and more generally, (2) How do I create shortcuts (gray-colored) for any .exe files? Any suggestions and help will be much appreciated.
I know that the "Total Commander" app let's you create links where File Explorer doesn't, but I've never actually messed with that part of the app very often.
Tons of folks are complaining about the movie icon, as far as I know no one has found a way to fix it once you break it
You got it the wrong way round.
First, click on "Copy" option for the exe file that you wish to make a shortcut.
Then go to \Windows\Start Menu\Programs, click on "Menu", the option "Paste shortcut" should be available now.
Re-created shortcut for MobiTV, but not for the other three
After seeing your answer, I realized I should have performed them on my HD2, instead of on my synced desktop PC! As long it is a .exe file, a shortcut can always be created for it on Windows program page by using the method you described. Thanks Zentury!
However, I could only recover (re-create) the shortcut for MobiTV since it is a single .exe file. I could not even find where the .exe files are for YouTube and Market Place to re-create the shortcuts for them... As for Transformers, since it is a folder with two .exe files, I could only create shortcuts for each of the two separately on Windows program page, and the icon on the home screen still does not work. Any ideas?
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After seeing your answer, I realized I should have performed them on my HD2, instead of on my synced desktop PC! As long it is a .exe file, a shortcut can always be created for it on Windows program page by using the method you described. Thanks Zentury!
However, I could only recover (re-create) the shortcut for MobiTV since it is a single .exe file. I could not even find where the .exe files are for YouTube and Market Place to re-create the shortcuts for them... As for Transformers, since it is a folder with two .exe files, I could only create shortcuts for each of the two separately on Windows program page, and the icon on the home screen still does not work. Any ideas?
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As for the Transformer Shortcuts use the cab posted, The other exe your looking for are in the windows folder on the phone. You Could always reinstall marketplace, for that shortcut.
Thanks for the attached .cab file! I downloaded the .cab file for Transformers but am wondering where should I put it: in the Device or in the Storage Card, and in what folder?
I did find Market Place and YouTube folders only in the Device's Windows folder, but where are the .exe files for them?! In Market Place folder, there is only one tiny file called ClientLog0 (263B); and in YouTube folder, there are four folders and hundreds jpeg files.... I did the search on my desktop PC for files in HD2 and know there is one YouTube.exc but don't know which specific folder it is in... Without getting to these .exe files, I don't know how to restore/reinstall the shortcuts for them. Please kindly advise. Thanks.
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Thanks for the attached .cab file! I downloaded the .cab file for Transformers but am wondering where should I put it: in the Device or in the Storage Card, and in what folder?
I did find Market Place and YouTube folders only in the Device's Windows folder, but where are the .exe files for them?! In Market Place folder, there is only one tiny file called ClientLog0 (263B); and in YouTube folder, there are four folders and hundreds jpeg files.... I did the search on my desktop PC for files in HD2 and know there is one YouTube.exc but don't know which specific folder it is in... Without getting to these .exe files, I don't know how to restore/reinstall the shortcuts for them. Please kindly advise. Thanks.
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it doesnt matter where you copy the cab file do as long as you know where it is, once it is on the device use the file explorer to find it and run it. Try this cab for the other 2 link files
I tried the Transformers.cab on my Device but failed to install because of "not sufficient system permissions". Earlier, I found Transformers.lnk in Device Windows and paste it on Windows/Start Menu/Program. Tapping on the home screen Transformer button will take me to the two Transformers movies, but I lost the nice Transformers icon on the home screen; instead, I only got the boring old Windows icon in its place. How do I get the nice Transformers icon back on the home screen?
I got YouTube shortcut back to work OK now, but Marketplace shortcut still does not work. The .cab file for Marketplace installed without any error message ("successfully installed on your device") and the Marketplace icon stays on the home screen, but tapping on it does not take me to its web page. Can you suggest anything I can try? Thanks again.
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I tried the Transformers.cab on my Device but failed to install because of "not sufficient system permissions". Earlier, I found Transformers.lnk in Device Windows and paste it on Windows/Start Menu/Program. Tapping on the home screen Transformer button will take me to the two Transformers movies, but I lost the nice Transformers icon on the home screen; instead, I only got the boring old Windows icon in its place. How do I get the nice Transformers icon back on the home screen?
I got YouTube shortcut back to work OK now, but Marketplace shortcut still does not work. The .cab file for Marketplace installed without any error message ("successfully installed on your device") and the Marketplace icon stays on the home screen, but tapping on it does not take me to its web page. Can you suggest anything I can try? Thanks again.
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I would just reinstall the marketplace cab and that should fix it. Not real sure on the icon.
I reinstalled the Marketplace.cab file a few times on my Device, still no luck - tapping on its icon on the home screen won't point to the right web page, only the same error message... The strange thing to me is there seems no .exe file for Marketplace on the device, so ... how did it ever get started?
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I reinstalled the Marketplace.cab file a few times on my Device, still no luck - tapping on its icon on the home screen won't point to the right web page, only the same error message... The strange thing to me is there seems no .exe file for Marketplace on the device, so ... how did it ever get started?
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Hi, just catching up with the latest on your problem resolution. (Note: I'm on the other side of the ocean.)
I took a look at the contents of Marketplace.lnk on my HD2 and the file location is "\Windows\WMMarketplace.exe".
Thank for taking the time to look it up - now I know why I couldn't find its .exe file on the device: it's WMMarketplace.exe, not just Marketplace.exe! Next time when I do the "search", I will use the wild card symbol * in the search string. Some valuable lesson learned!
Anyway, the shortcut problem for Marketplace was solved last night after I found another Marketplace.cab (116kB) provide by zelendel in another earlier xda forum thread. The youtube & marketplace.cab file I've been using and did not work is only about 2kB in size so apparently was not a good .cab file.
The only remaining "missing shortcut" problem I have is now changed to "missing icon" for Transformers on the home screen. The two Transformers.cab files I got from the xda forum all have the error message "not sufficient system permissions" when I tried to install them. Since the installations were "unsuccessful", the ugly blank-look icon in place for Transformers on the home screen still keeps staring back at me ...
Anyone got a Transformers.cab to share that would not cause the "unsuccessful" verdict and would restore the nifty Transformers icon on the home screen? Thanks!
Ive just downloaded that Transformers cab thinking it was going to the movie file or some funky robotic program and all i got was a shortcut leading to nothing??
Hmm, now how the hell do i remove it? Ive deleted the cab file but the shortcut is still visible on the start menu.
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Ive just downloaded that Transformers cab thinking it was going to the movie file or some funky robotic program and all i got was a shortcut leading to nothing??
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Hmm, now how the hell do i remove it? Ive deleted the cab file but the shortcut is still visible on the start menu.
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You probably aren't running the Tmo ROM, right? The transformers link only opens up the player for the movies that are provided to tmo owners on the included 16GB SD card...so all you did was indeed install a "link to nowhere".
You'll need to navigate to /windows/start menu on the phone, and delete the "transformers.lnk" file there.
there is an app on freewarepocketpc.net called "LnkMgr", that you can use to create shortcuts ...
works ok ..