Trying to customize Start Menu - HD2 General

My Start Menu is really crowded. The Custom ROM I had on my TP2 had the icons sorted into folders -- which I really liked -- so I'm trying to do that on my HD2.
Doing that through File Explorer seems tedious, however, whenever I navigate to the Start Menu folder on my PC with the phone hooked up via USB, I can't move icons into folders, I'm told I don't have the permissions.
Any fix?
Also, is there any way to get the Start Menu (and it's folders) to sort themselves like Windows Explorer typically sorts files -- folders first, files second, and after that alphabetically?
I'm using Windows Mobile 6.5.5 if it makes any difference.

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Would appreciate help.

I'm not aware of any editor for the start menu I'm afraid, but I'm happy to be proven wrong.
I've tidied mine before now, but just using the method you suggested and using totaly commander. At least I could multi-select links, rather than move them 1-by-1.
Sorry mate.

Maybe i'm missing something, but I can't replicate the problem? I have just tested this, and I can quite happily browse to the windows/start menu/programs folder of my mobile from my pc, (it takes quite a while to open the windows folder, maybe 2 minutes) , then create folders and move links around without a problem. Is that what you are trying to do?
<Edit>Using windows 7 ultra, and i have the allow all programs tweak from bsb tweaks, doesn't that set the permissions in teh registry to something less controlling?

I´m looking for a tool that not only sorts the icons but also changes the registry settings for the links. That means that if you uninstall the program the start menu icon is also removed and so on...

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How do I clear recent programs (or disable it)?

I have a Cingular/HTC 8125 running the latest official ROM from HTC. On my start menu I have a list of recently used programs (the last five or so). I want to disable this feature so only the applications that I want there are there.
Does anyone know how to disable it or at least clear it?
Thank you.
I would love to know too
madmatt079 said:
I have a Cingular/HTC 8125 running the latest official ROM from HTC. On my start menu I have a list of recently used programs (the last five or so). I want to disable this feature so only the applications that I want there are there.
Does anyone know how to disable it or at least clear it?
Thank you.
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There is a small app here that does the job http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=35536
VJEschaton has this feature built in too - but with the same limitations, it only takes effect after the reset.
I think there may be another way to entirely remove recent programs, but it needs some hacking that I don't have time for right now.
If anyone is interested and would feel competent to write it, PM me.
V
The first solution worked well. Thank you.
Although if there is a method to remove "Recent Programs" all together then I'd like to know.
Thank you.
Dont they disapear when you soft reset ?
In another forum some guy (sorry I can't remember where and who), gave this solution:
"Use some type of utility (like Resco File Explorer or just browse to the PDA while in the cradle from your PC) and browse to the Windows\Start Menu\Programs folder on the PDA. Create sub-folders in the root of the Programs folder (such as Utilities, Applications, Games, etc) and copy all of your shortcuts from the Windows\Start Menu\Programs folder into these sub-folders. Once complete, go to Settings and Menus. From here, uncheck all of the programs that are checked and place checks next to all the sub-folders that you just created (* Make sure you stay under the maximum limit of 5 (or whatever)).
It seems that the "recent list" only monitors the Start Menu\Programs folder. If you move your shortcuts out of this folder, they no longer appear on that dreaded recent list. The major bonus that I've noticed is that the Start menu no longer has that 3 - 5 second lag!!!
Note: Using this work around, you will need to move the shortcuts of any newly installed applications into your sub-folders manually. Also, be sure you remap your PDA buttons to the location of the new shortcuts. Other then these two "cons", this solution works GREAT!!!"
I've tested it and it sure works great!!!
I forgot to mention that with this trick you can DISABLE recent documents list
Danny-B-, yes, it worked well.
jolas, I attempted this exactly as you described. I renamed "Accessory" to "Accessories" and created "Tools". I moved everything that I didn't want to appear in the recent programs list including moving Calculator to Accessories. I then launched Calculator and it appeared in the list.
None of which except the defaults (IE, Messaging, WMP, etc.) are checked in the menu settings.
Did I miss something?
Thank you.
Delicious, worked for me on my Cingular 8125 w/ 2.25. I was really getting tired of running ClearTemp all the bloody time.
Interestingly enough I have a folder called "Settings" and it won't let me show it on the Start Menu - I had to rename it to "Utilities".
madmatt079 said:
jolas, I attempted this exactly as you described. I renamed "Accessory" to "Accessories" and created "Tools". I moved everything that I didn't want to appear in the recent programs list including moving Calculator to Accessories. I then launched Calculator and it appeared in the list.
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EDIT: Screenshot added of what your tree should look like after this change. Removed confusing post.
rubbercow, your `drawing` is as confusing as words.. with the DO, DO NOT seems to be at the same place.
Anyway, I was confused myself too. However, after reading through and some fiddling around, I finally got what these posts are trying to say.
Just to make this as clear as possible.
Definition:
Sticky Start Menu Item (SSMI) - I defined it as those items that always appear on your start menu (top section). You can add/remove your SSMIs in the Settings->Menus
Recently Launched Programs (RLP) - the items in the Recently launched program list (e.g. the list under SSMIs list).
Fact:
WM5 will not put any of your SSMIs into the RLP list (or else, you will have duplicate icon/item of the same program in your start menu).
More talking:
Using the fact above, we can avoid programs that we do not want to be put into the RLP list (e.g. stuff in SD card that is large and takes ages for it to load the icon when you press the Start) by having them as SSMIs (in the list). However, WM5 only allows up to 7 items in the SSMIs list. So, we create a folder for it.
E.g. By default you should have a directory structure that looks like this
\Windows\Start Menu\Programs
\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Games
To test it, you can try putting the `Games` folder (the folder!) into the SSMIs list. After doing so, any programs (games) you start (that is under the Games folder) will not appear on the RLP list. This is the thing we are trying to exploit.
Hence, to avoid stuff going into the RLP list, you create some other folders, e.g. Tools
\Windows\Start Menu\Programs
\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Games
\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Tools
And move everything into this `Tools` folder. Make this `Tools` folder as one of the SSMIs. Then any software under this Tools will not appear on the RLPs list.
Process Summary
Simple procedure. Modified to suits your needs.
(1) Create a `Tools` (or any name) folder under the Start Menu\Programs. Example, this folder
\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Tools
(2) Move everything into this newly created `Tools` folder.
(3) Make this `Tools` folder (the folder) as sticky on the start menu by 'ticking' it in the Setting->Menus
- now all your stuff will not appear in the recently launched programs list
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hanmin said:
rubbercow, your `drawing` is as confusing as words.. with the DO, DO NOT seems to be at the same place.
Anyway, I was confused myself too. However, after reading through and some fiddling around, I finally got what these posts are trying to say.
Just to make this as clear as possible.
Definition:
Sticky Start Menu Item (SSMI) - I defined it as those items that always appear on your start menu (top section). You can add/remove your SSMIs in the Settings->Menus
Recently Launched Programs (RLP) - the items in the Recently launched program list (e.g. the list under SSMIs list).
Fact:
WM5 will not put any of your SSMIs into the RLP list (or else, you will have duplicate icon/item of the same program in your start menu).
More talking:
Using the fact above, we can avoid programs that we do not want to be put into the RLP list (e.g. stuff in SD card that is large and takes ages for it to load the icon when you press the Start) by having them as SSMIs (in the list). However, WM5 only allows up to 7 items in the SSMIs list. So, we create a folder for it.
E.g. By default you should have a directory structure that looks like this
\Windows\Start Menu\Programs
\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Games
To test it, you can try putting the `Games` folder (the folder!) into the SSMIs list. After doing so, any programs (games) you start (that is under the Games folder) will not appear on the RLP list. This is the thing we are trying to exploit.
Hence, to avoid stuff going into the RLP list, you create some other folders, e.g. Tools
\Windows\Start Menu\Programs
\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Games
\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Tools
And move everything into this `Tools` folder. Make this `Tools` folder as one of the SSMIs. Then any software under this Tools will not appear on the RLPs list.
Process Summary
Simple procedure. Modified to suits your needs.
(1) Create a `Tools` (or any name) folder under the Start Menu\Programs. Example, this folder
\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Tools
(2) Move everything into this newly created `Tools` folder.
(3) Make this `Tools` folder (the folder) as sticky on the start menu by 'ticking' it in the Setting->Menus
- now all your stuff will not appear in the recently launched programs list
Thanks for making that clearer hamin - I think i eventually worked it out.
But still begs the question - why do people not want programs showing in the recently loaded program list? I find this useful and my startmenu always starts in less than a second even after soft reset. :wink:
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meschle said:
Thanks for making that clearer hamin - I think i eventually worked it out.
But still begs the question - why do people not want programs showing in the recently loaded program list? I find this useful and my startmenu always starts in less than a second even after soft reset. :wink:
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You are the lucky one, I guess There are many (including me) which seems to find the start menu to be slow (e.g. this one ). I'm not sure why mine is slow (1-2 seconds), probably because I had many of the software installed on my SD (instead of the main memory) and my phone is a Charmer. Topic aside, is Wizard faster than Charmer (is there any benchmark to it)?
Other than the start menu, the Start->Setting pages are also very slow (a second or two) after each softreset. You don't have this problem?
madmatt079 said:
Danny-B-, yes, it worked well.
jolas, I attempted this exactly as you described. I renamed "Accessory" to "Accessories" and created "Tools". I moved everything that I didn't want to appear in the recent programs list including moving Calculator to Accessories. I then launched Calculator and it appeared in the list.
None of which except the defaults (IE, Messaging, WMP, etc.) are checked in the menu settings.
Did I miss something?
Thank you.
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Goto '\Windows\Start Menu' and create a directory (name it e.g Applications).
Now, under the 'Windows\Start Menu' there must be 3 subdirectories (Applications, Programs, Settings).
If yes, then move the desired apps, from the '\Programs' folder to the '\Applications' folder. (Before you remove the apps make sure that you have uncheck them from the 'Menus' list (Start -----> Settings -------> Menus).
:wink:
i cant move any
it gave me error access is denied when i try moving any shortcut
please help
ok i guess it was my expedition it was easy sory
and am shy of my weak knowledge ... thank you all any way

Which Landscape program is the best - Tilt 2 user

Hey folks...
I know, I know...too many random threads about the same questions...
I've searched and searched but I found a few programs that look like they do the same.
I brought an AT&T Tilt 2. I love the TF3D and I'm looking to download a quick program that allows me to use the phone in landscape or portrait when ever I feel in any menu or screen.
I've found a few choices:
Project Pulse - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=588476
Gyrator - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=550973
Change Screen - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=550973
I'm not sure which version is best or right for me...
To be honest...I dont' even know what version of Manilla I have...or what it is just yet.
I'm also looking for a way to remove a few of the standard programs AT&T added to this phone. When my phone is idle and I'm not touching it...it's operating at 70%. It's hurting the performance of the phone and I'm looking to lower the percentage.
I know you guys are probably going to screen: LOCK...but I've honesly searched a ton for answers.
Thank you much,
Manila is TouchFLO 3D aka HTC Sense aka TF3D, the thing with the flippy clock and the different tabs. If you're rockin' the AT&T default ROM, then you definitely have Manila 2.1. Project Pulse is only useful for people using Manila 2.5, since it doesn't have landscape, unlike 2.1. Project Pulse essentially is a "hacked" landscape mode for a landscape lacking Manila 2.5.
I personally use Changescreen, since it is compatible with almost any program and supports Manila. Apparently, Gyrator will work with regular programs, but won't properly rotate Manila into landscape mode. The only thing you need to remember is to remove "Manila" from the Changescreen exceptions tab, or otherwise it won't work when rotating Manila on the homescreen.
Though I haven't done any of this myself (since I'm not on the AT&T ROM anymore), there's an XDA-Wiki article (here) which details which files and registry keys should be deleted. Hope that clarifies things for you
Ahhh... I see...
So the only folks with Manilla 2.5 are those with flashed ROM's...since Manilla 2.1 is on the stock ROM?
I guess I will be downloading Changescreen and playing around with it.
I still have no idea how to remove the programs that came on the phone. I saw the link you posted...but it doesn't say how to access that screen. Do I simply plug my laptop via usb cord go through the files?
If I have to do this via computer...do I simply "delete" the files/folders?
Thanks again,
You can do it from a computer, but it's a lot easier to use File Explorer Mobile (included on your device) and navigate to the listed file locations and delete the files and folders.
For the registry entries, you can use CERegEdit (from the computer while the device is connected via USB), and there are tons of registry editors for exclusive use on the device (no computer needed). I personally use Dotfred's free multipurpose task manager for that, but there are other free options besides that, like PHM Regedit.
Thanks Dave...
I just saw that I can access all of those files with File Explorer (neat little program).
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I have 1 more question now:
On the XDA/WIKI for each program there are only 2 files. Example is below:
Glu Diner Dash 2
Files
\Program Files\Glu\Diner Dash 2 (1.5mb)
\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Games\Diner Dash 2.lnk
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Am I deleting both of those files in those two locations? Or can I just go into \Program Files\Glu\Diner Dash 2 and delete the entire folder?
When I use File Explorer, I see about 6 files in that folder...not just one.
Thanks,
You'd want to delete the whole "Diner Dash 2" folder, since you don't want that program, then you'd want to browse to \Windows\Start Menu\ and delete the appropriate .lnk file associated with the program. This will pretty much remove the program from the device, and deleting the .lnk will remove it from the start menu.

No Navi Panel

Hello all,
I have just received a HTC HD2(Leo) from Vodafone and have paired it with my Parrot handsfree, and have set the bluetooth settings to start the Navi Panel. Except it does not start.
I then looked in the Windows folder and can not find Navi.exe , does anyone know if it is not included in a Voda variant?
If not is is possible for someone to send me a copy?
Wan
mine doesn't have the navi panel either
either the original T mobile rom or the new 1.48 rom!
Chaps,
Look here.....http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=581144
Also you may have to use the option of showing hidden files in File Explorer to find it.
WB
Hi
Wacky.Banana
You are correct you have to click MEnu in explorer thencheck Show Hidden Files.
Double clicking the Navi file causes the application to run.
The reason why it doesn't run when connected to my car kit is the HD2 needs to be plugged into a charger
wacky.banana said:
Chaps,
Look here.....http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=581144
Also you may have to use the option of showing hidden files in File Explorer to find it.
WB
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Hi, I cannot find the option to show the hidden files in File Explorer. I also Activesync to my laptop to search for the Navipanel.exe but unable to find it. Please advise.
bhchng said:
Hi, I cannot find the option to show the hidden files in File Explorer. I also Activesync to my laptop to search for the Navipanel.exe but unable to find it. Please advise.
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Morning,
To unhide files in explorer go to Tools>Folder Options>View>Show Hidden Files... to solve that problem.
In terms of finding the Navi Panel file you need to explore the Windows folder on the device (fine doing this via Activesync). Once the files have loaded up (can take some time as there are stacks of files in this directory) scroll through until you eventually come to 3 files all called Navi...
Click on the properties of each file; what you are looking for is the file whose properties are application. That's the one you want.
If you want to use it to access the Navi panel, copy that file into your StartMenu folder, which is a sub folder of the Windows folder.
From here exit these folders, go into the StarMenu folder by tapping on Start at the top of your device screen and you should find the Navi file at the bottom of the items listed on that screen (you can tap and hold to get the sub menu that allows you to move the file to the top of the list).
For greater ease of use you can now copy the file as a quicklink onto your front screen. Job done!
Incidentally these instructions are based on using Activesync to access the device and copy and paste that way, not by trying to do all this on the device itself, which you might find tedious and frustrating.
If you get stuck pm me and I will see what I can do to get you there.
Hope this helps.
WB
hi ive found all that on my htc hd2 and done all that but once ive accessed the application it wont let me choose a voice on the app when runnin
Navipanel is designed to work in conjunction with the HTC hardware car kit, which connects with a terminal under the battery cover. It's quite likely that a lot of the functions (such as speakerphone) only work with the hardware connection.
Ok, dumb question now, sorry :-(
In my haste I copied Navipanel.exe into Startup insted of Start menu. Now I can't delete or move it and it's causing some problems. Can anyone help a dumbo and tell me how to get rid of it pls?

How to place programs in folders in start menu?

Sorry if this is a stupid question I have only just got a windows mobile. When you install programs it shows up on the start page. For example if I install uno is there anyway of putting it in the games folder ?
Thanks very much
You can indeed.
You need to do it through File Explorer.
If you go to My Device/Windows/Start Menu/Programs you can create new folders, cut and copy existing shortcuts into folders, etc.
If you open up file explorer and head into
windows folder..>..start menu..>..programs...
you should see all the shortcuts on the start menu (ie Uno) and the folders (ie Games)...
then you can just rearrange them as you like....
some of the htc shortcuts will re-appear after being moved but there is a registry entry you can alter to prevent this. You'll find info on that in the very useful hints and tips sticky at the top of the forum...........
Hope that helps...
Edit;
Beaten to it lol....
Thanks very much
Cheers for the replies i have managed to do it !
Thanks

Cant add programs to list

HI, i have seen on this WM6.5 that i can't add any program (ie one thats not say google maps or one of those big companies)
i can run the program via file manager and clicking the application .exe
the phone still wont see the application as a program.
i had a jasjam before and the prgrams i am trying to add worked fine but now on 6.5 cant do this.
the only way is to run these apps, well not run but to get a short cut, is on a program like CHome but then i move away from HTC sense start up display that is nicer looking.
like i said the programs work fine, just can see them in programs.
anything that will help?
cheers
have you posted a shortcut to your windows\start menu\programs\
I'm running 6.5 and any time I have a program installed on my sd card or trying to run an .exe from the storage card (or even if the .exe is just in another folder) thats what I do and it shows in my start menu or whatever subfolder I put it in in the start menu.
Aaron McCarthy said:
have you posted a shortcut to your windows\start menu\programs\
I'm running 6.5 and any time I have a program installed on my sd card or trying to run an .exe from the storage card (or even if the .exe is just in another folder) thats what I do and it shows in my start menu or whatever subfolder I put it in in the start menu.
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Yeap, in programs folder as an .exe, other folders like goggle maps are there too. The programs still don't show or work. Should i not try and get an .cab version? since looking into this takes you into trying to understand a pda rather than a PC. The .exe files still cant be seen, i have to run them via file explorer, although now loaded a short cut via button strokes so am using that to make the task a little easier.
I ran a .cab file on another program and found it distributed files with icons and other th9ngs that seem to integrate better into the host rather than an .exe
Also been looking at all the apps these phones can have its amazing.
I have one on my phone that can change a set of traffic lights in my city!
With authorisation of course, its my job, just saying how the PDA has really started to take off. become the real modern Swiss army knife.

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