hi!
i have been trolling around xda for weeks and finally here is my first post..
im having some problems getting rid of the software that came bundled with the tmous hd2. when i go to settings(sense)->applications->remove programs, i see JUST the b&n ereader listed there.
i seem to have irretrievably lost my sd card and i suspect some of the bundled software was preinstalled on the sd card itself. i was able to spot the rest (like slacker, telenav, etc.) in the program files of my device memory.
the problems are that:
1) the start menu is still cluttered with icons of apps that dont exist (due to lost sd card). nothing happens when i run them.
2) even the apps that do exist (like telenav - installed on my device memory), i dont know how to uninstall.
i really need some way to clean up my phone... any way to solve the above problems?
thanks!
p.s.:
i suspect that the b&n ereader is listed in 'remove programs' because i ran that software and updated it over wifi - which led to a fresh install.
my rom is 2.13 if thats of any use...
The thorough way is to use a cooked ROM. But if you don't want to go that way, you can go though and comb through the phone memory>windows and the start menu folders and delete stuff that belong to the apps (but be careful about what you delete, you don't want to delete important system stuff)
chvvkumar said:
The thorough way is to use a cooked ROM. But if you don't want to go that way, you can go though and comb through the phone memory>windows and the start menu folders and delete stuff that belong to the apps (but be careful about what you delete, you don't want to delete important system stuff)
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i thought of doing that. but drawing a parallel from windows (PC), what you are suggesting is that i should delete all program folders & shortcuts manually instead of using the control panel->add/remove option.
but that is sure to leave behind orphaned registry entries, dlls etc. just like in windows (PC)? and any windows(PC) user knows that that isnt a very pretty way of doing things...
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i thought of doing that. but drawing a parallel from windows (PC), what you are suggesting is that i should delete all program folders & shortcuts manually instead of using the control panel->add/remove option.
but that is sure to leave behind orphaned registry entries, dlls etc. just like in windows (PC)? and any windows(PC) user knows that that isnt a very pretty way of doing things...
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it will leave the registry entries. I have made a lite rom that you can use if you don't want any traces of the programs on your device. look in my signature
Silenced, the catch is that it's not possible to remove apps that are baked into the stock ROM through any regular means (i.e. the add/remove dialog). In your case the best thing is to just clean up + organize your /windows/start menu folder...you can delete or move any of the ".lnk" files in there as they're just shortcuts to the same thing in the /windows folder. Just remember that if you move something that's attached to a quicklink on your home tab, you'll have to dump the quicklink and recreate it after moving the .lnk file.
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Silenced, the catch is that it's not possible to remove apps that are baked into the stock ROM through any regular means (i.e. the add/remove dialog)
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hmm you're right... i remember that even a hard reset i did yesterday didnt change the state of these apps.
apps stored in rom arent going to make any difference to the phone's performance anyway. so ill just follow the cleanup method you all suggest for now... i have had this phone for just about 24 hours now. its my first killer phone (i upgraded from nokia e65) and am in no state of mind to start flashing cooked roms yet
i wonder if there are any registry cleaners for windows CE.
thanks all!
silenced3 said:
i wonder if there are any registry cleaners for windows CE.
thanks all!
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Yes, MemMaid has a registry cleaning function/option...there may be others, but that's the one I know.
As for all the stuff you'll need to learn for your HD2, make sure you read the guide below (if you haven't already):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=688928
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I did about 3 hard reset to the phone (for testing purposes), and all the sudden the myfavs program does not appear after I did the hard reset the 4th time, I did the hard reset about 2 more times and it did not restore the myfavs program (it suppose to back to its factory settings)
Now I keep getting "your myfaves contacts have been restored" text message every time time I turn on the phone (keeps pilling up with this same text message)which your suppose to only get once.
under the memory setting; storage & program seems to have the exactly same file size as when i had myfavs before.
What can I do? all I want is the default factory settings.. help me.
Hah! You survived longer than I did with it. I hard reset once just to clean my phone up before I started messing with anything (messing with the ROM, etc.) and the MyFaves app disappeared completely from the little tray bar at the bottom and the Today Screen.
Interestingly if you dig around with the file browser in the \windows\ directory I can see all the MyFav5 related applications, but nothing launches.
I'm tempted to try the RUU but to be honest the MyFaves program just ate a ton of memory and resulted in me calling people on accident when I had the Today Screen Plug-in active. So as long as the plan still gets accounted correctly (read as: I don't get charged for calling my 5 people),I don't really care.
I thought I'd let you know you aren't the only one out there with the exact same problem. I would like a solution but it isn't mission critical for me.
I found a solution to your problem. I'll do some more testing later. For now:
Could you look in your \Windows\ directory of your phone and tell me what "My*" applications and files are listed there? (You might have to make the basic file explorer show all files by using Menu>Show All Files).
All the "My" files that are in windows directory (revised & no file missing or mistyped). The some files are repeated to I placed the filesize next to them.
My5_Land
My5_Land.swf.0409
My5_Port.swf.0409
My5app
My5Client
My5ControllerPanelPlugin
My5MsgCenter 138k
My5MsgCenter 30b
My5PimProvider
My5service
My5Today_MaskCircle
My5Today_MaskRing
MyFave
MyFaves 19.1k
MyFaves 29b
MyFaves_add
MyFaves_hourglass
MyFaves_PhCDefault
MyFaves_sihouette
MyFavesApp_3DMask
MyFavesApp_74x743DMask
MyFavesApp_ContactMask
MyFaves-plugin
MyFavTodayPlugin
Myinfo.96
Extreme184X said:
All the "My" files that are in windows directory (revised & no file missing or mistyped). The some files are repeated to I placed the filesize next to them.
My5_Land
My5_Land.swf.0409
My5_Port.swf.0409
My5app
My5Client
My5ControllerPanelPlugin
My5MsgCenter 138k
My5MsgCenter 30b
My5PimProvider
My5service
My5Today_MaskCircle
My5Today_MaskRing
MyFave
MyFaves 19.1k
MyFaves 29b
MyFaves_add
MyFaves_hourglass
MyFaves_PhCDefault
MyFaves_sihouette
MyFavesApp_3DMask
MyFavesApp_74x743DMask
MyFavesApp_ContactMask
MyFaves-plugin
MyFavTodayPlugin
Myinfo.96
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My5Service.exe is the key application. I wanted to make sure you had all the bits to the MyFaves program. The reason you see duplicate names with different file sizes is that the File Explorer program that you have on your hand held suppresses extensions of files for whatever idea.
Now then to fix your problem you are going to need to edit the registry of your device (I used total commander, the .CAB is in one of the Useful cab threads).
A key is missing from the registry after hard reset. WOO!!
Go to \\registry\\HKLM\init\ (using total commander's akward directory structure style)
You then have to add a new key, I used "Launch94" as I was noticing most of the T-Mo crapware was using the Launch9# series of keys
Then edit the key's data to be: My5Service.exe (Must be spelled correctly)
Basically what you did was add in a registry key that tells windows to load up the MyFaves service at boot so all the my faves apps will initialize properly. Putting My5Service.exe into the \windows\startup\ folder doesn't work (I tried it initially).
Soft reset and the phone will act wonky for a second as it is refreshing itself, don't panic. A box popped up saying "MyFaves display set to ON" and all was well at that point.
Then, since you want factory default I'd just remove Total Commander using the add/remove programs feature.
Good lookin out!!!
thanks alot, it did it and it worked.
I made an attemp to reformat the phone again, and myfavs appeared. Funny How I never managed to get that total commander for this phone. Lol im an experience user with registries (now gonna experiment with the register editor an tweak the phone to make phone faster and remove useless I don't need)
Thanks lot you have been helpful and gave fast support!!
Ah well no insult to your ability or experience was meant. I try to be as specific in my write ups as possible so others who might have the same problem can understand the solution, regardless of ability. Tends to make my life at work a lot easier when I do that so it's become a bit of a habit.
Glad it worked for ya and I'm actually surprised it survived another format. But hey all it says is there is some glitchy code in the re-install portion T-Mo has built.
Extreme184X said:
(now gonna experiment with the register editor an tweak the phone to make phone faster and remove useless I don't need)
Thanks lot you have been helpful and gave fast support!!
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By the way, let me know what tweaks you try. I'd be interested in them myself.
Good seeing people help each other out. The speed tweaks are everywhere, but to remove things you have to recook and flash your phone. (Alternatively, you can flash one of the many available ROMs our cooks have already made or made a custom one based on my own through the link on my signature.)
i got a quick Question how about trying to add it to a already cooked rom is that possible ? bc i love the PDAVIET-ROM BUILD 20931.1.5.0.PV(uploaded) rom but the myfaves tab dont work
does anyone have the my faves.cab?
Hi there
Thanks in addvance
Could any body help i think i read some ware in this forum that less files in windows folder meens that your device runs faster !!
I also think I read some program can only be installed to windows\ I Don't know which? programs need to be in which directory or is it all down to the reg enteries or is it dependent on the *.exe & *.dll files
If it is posible to install office mobile to something like \program files\OfficeMobile\ ?, Would there be any benifits for doing this ? or would i be wasting my time ?
It seems a lot of programs install into windows\
Easy - if you know how!
swampy395 said:
Hi there
Thanks in addvance
Could any body help i think i read some ware in this forum that less files in windows folder meens that your device runs faster !!
I also think I read some program can only be installed to windows\ I Don't know which? programs need to be in which directory or is it all down to the reg enteries or is it dependent on the *.exe & *.dll files
If it is posible to install office mobile to something like \program files\OfficeMobile\ ?, Would there be any benifits for doing this ? or would i be wasting my time ?
It seems a lot of programs install into windows\
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Various options here mate (listed in order of user level):
In WM5+ you can choose to install to the Storage Card by default - any programs that cannot be installed here will usually tell you when you try, and ask you to try again in the correct folder.
Go get yourself a copy of a program called Pocket Mechanic and it has an option that lets you move programs to your storage card (it changes all the links/shortcuts and reg entries for you) - it can also move the 'My Documents folder and IE cache, too - saving even more space.
Find a program called CECabManager (30 day trial) which lets you edit the cab files for programs and change their default install folder.
WARNING
ALWAYS backup your device before playing around with this stuff - it's a real P.I.T.A. when you have got yourself almost set up, then you destroy the system, or cause a glitch!
My best advice is to go buy a copy of Spb Clone and install that before you fiddle about! Also, backup your PIM data to Outlook, or with Spb Backup, too! Then you're pretty much safe to do what you want, as you can always go back if all goes tits up!
Bird
Bird_FAT said:
Various options here mate (listed in order of user level):
In WM5+ you can choose to install to the Storage Card by default - any programs that cannot be installed here will usually tell you when you try, and ask you to try again in the correct folder.
Go get yourself a copy of a program called Pocket Mechanic and it has an option that lets you move programs to your storage card (it changes all the links/shortcuts and reg entries for you) - it can also move the 'My Documents folder and IE cache, too - saving even more space.
Find a program called CECabManager (30 day trial) which lets you edit the cab files for programs and change their default install folder.
WARNING
ALWAYS backup your device before playing around with this stuff - it's a real P.I.T.A. when you have got yourself almost set up, then you destroy the system, or cause a glitch!
My best advice is to go buy a copy of Spb Clone and install that before you fiddle about! Also, backup your PIM data to Outlook, or with Spb Backup, too! Then you're pretty much safe to do what you want, as you can always go back if all goes tits up!
Bird
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Thanks Bird
PS do you know it doe's run faster whith les files in windows folder ?
Speed or Space?!?!
swampy395 said:
Thanks Bird
PS do you know it doe's run faster whith les files in windows folder ?
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No idea - anyone?
I think that if you have too little space, you'll be in trouble when some programs run as they may need to use it as RAM or a swap file - I've filled it to within a MB or 2 and it has slowed down the system!
See my post in this thread for how I keep space in my Storage area (at the bottom of the second post)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=388249
If you're looking to speed up your system, why not try an overclocking utility?
I've just got Pocket Hack Master - I'm testing it now! I've used Anton's Pocket Mechanic for ages now, and so I'm pretty confident in the quality of the app.
http://www.wizcode.com/products/view/pocket_hack_master
And there is a starter guide here:
http://www.wizcode.com/articles/comments/pocket-hack-master-speed-configuration-guide/
Let me know your results!
Bird
Thanks again bird
Don't fancy clocking my CPU realy wanting to know if it's worth the effort of hacking all my *.cab files and OEMs to install into sub folders rather than windows\ Idear been Keeping as little as posible in the windows\ "folder" I could have a sleep some times waiting for file explorer to finish opening windows\ was hopeing that if there's less in windows\ the device my run faster with a smaller directory ??
Thanks
swampy395
Possibly...
You could always try using Pocket Mechanic!!
Instead of hacking the cabs, you could just use Pocket Mechanic - it will move the programs across to your SD card and change all the reg entries, links, etc. for you!
I find that there are some cabs that really don't like to be hacked! But, if that's the route you want to go down (saves having to do it all again in the future), then CECabManager is definitely the way to go! Pretty pricey software, but gives you a nice 30 day trial period to play with it! Just remember to remove any 'setup.dll's' from the tree in the left-hand window if you change anything - can cause the install to muck up if you don't!
And the best bit of software on the net in my opinion is Spb Clone (god I love Spb software - it's just so good!) - once you get your system looking and working how you want it to, just clone the whole thing on to some spare space on your card and you're safe from any general errors! Use Pocket Mechanic to move all your documents, mail and cache folders onto the SD card and you're even safer - go one step further and get Spb Backup to save teh PIM data onto your SD, too and you get ultimate safety (as long as you remember to save reguarly LoL!):
PIM synced with main PC or onto SD with Spb Backup
Documents, mail and cache on SD
Clone of system on SD
Any screw ups, any dodgy software, ANY problems and you just go back a few days!
SORTED!!
Bird
Free even MORE space!!
Found a way to get even more space! Really helpful for me when I want to play certain games, as some of them were refusing to start as they needed more space than I had. I managed to claw back about 8meg, but then I have somewhat overloaded my BAs with about 250 apps/games! )
Using Pocket Mechanic, you can move the AppMgr file from the Windows directory of you BA onto your Storage Card - (the original folder structure will be recreated if you try to install anything new!) - when it's finished, just soft reset your BA and VIOLA! more space in the storage section.
***********NOTE***********
If you want to delete any of your apps - or even install a new version over the top of an old one, you have to move the corresponding folder from the AppMgr folder on your Storage Card back into Windows/ApMgr or the uninstall/reinstall will fail - If you haven't installed anything since you last moved the AppMgr folder, then you will have to create the AppMgr folder before moving the folder of the app you wish to delete.
Have fun,
Hello everyone ..
I've been here for a while, and been using alot of apps from the great team of developers here. And been using a lot of great ROMs, thanks to all cooks!
I did something, and it showed me we do need a special program.
I tried to install an app, then uninstall it, and a very funny thing happened,
for example, it asked for 1536 kB to install , but it installed on more than that, and after uninstalling it freed less than what it already took, and even less than what it saied it will take.
I guess it's because of the registry and some un-removed files.
and here comes the idea of the program
AN INSTALLER/UNINSTALLER app
i think it should do the following
1- browse for the cab
2- i think it might need to use the builtin installer, but it should keep track of all the files and registery entries that the program will take
3- keep record of all the installed apps
4- allows the user to uninstall the app, again, it might need to use the builtin unistaller, but after it is removed, it ensures that all the registery values are removed and all the files are deleted
so what do you think? is this possible? any one can do it for us?
If this is a request of an Application, PLease Modify Your Title with some thing like this :
[REQ]Windows Mobile UnInstaller
Short answer: Forget it.
Middle answer : There are slightly improved uninstallers available, e.g. in SKTools
Long answer: The default installation routine keeps a pretty good track of what is installed with the default setup routines, and usually uninstalls it just fine (only exceptions: fonts and sometimes Today plugins. Which belongs to the things SKTools' uninstaller does better.).
The trouble is with those files and registry entries that aren't created by default installation itself. There are two ways for that to happen. Either there's a "setup.dll", which allows user extentions wherever the default routines wouldn't be flexible enough, usually used for setting migrations (updates) or selections immediately after installation (like which language packs should remain resp. extracted from an common archive). Or the application creates them on first run resp. whenever required (like when the user modifies settings, a game is saved, entries are created, ...). For both of them, any unistall helper has a really bad job to relate them to the program. The best it could do would be to remain in background, look for changes (which would take a lot of resources because WM doesn't offer as nice system hooks for e.g. new registry entries as the desktop Windows) and assign them to the currently active program. Which might be wrong whenever a program in background creates/modifies something. And then there's the problem "What to remove?" when it comes to uninstall. You wouldn't be that happy when it deletes all text documents, contacts, registry tweaks, ... you created with a program, would you? And sometimes you even want to keep the settings, e.g. when updating (since WM5, the old version is always removed before the new one is installed).
A developer can create special uninstall actions in the setup.dll, which usually are way better than any uninstall tool could try to be. You often experience that when there's a query like "Keep settings for update?" appears on uninstall. But that's up to the developers...
thank you guys very much for answering ..
as a result .. i get that if i want something better .. go buy a sktools license
and there is nothing better than that ...
right?
try Pocket Mechanic too
MemMaid is the best!
I vote for SKTools. Has the best uninstall function ever.
I am fairly new to this forum and I am sure this has been explain on here once before. But I though this might be a little easier than searching through countless pages of posts. I want to know if there is a way to clear up the program memory. If I could I would like to be able to delete the Office mobile stuff if that would help. Dont see a need for it since I work on macs mostly. Of if there is way to trim it down. At the moment my program memory is 43.87 MB and it says 40.91MB is in use but I only have window media running and only 3MB available. Is there something I can do. What is taking up all memory. Even after a soft reset. The most I have ever seen it go up to is like 14MB and that is just for a while then it begins to rundown. Thanks for you help in advanced.
Carlos
CleanRAM - http://thewingster.com/cleanram.aspx
Thanks Ace..good work..is there a way to get into the registry and delete some of the office mobile stuff, like work powerpoint and excel or would I have to do a complete flash
toreone said:
Thanks Ace..good work..is there a way to get into the registry and delete some of the office mobile stuff, like work powerpoint and excel or would I have to do a complete flash
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You would have to flash a ROM without Office Mobile. Look on The Wingster (http://thewingster.com/roms.aspx) and find a ROM that doesn't include Office Mobile. I tell you if it doesn't include it, so it should be fairly easy to identify that.
But going into the registry wouldn't be where you'd delete that stuff. You'd find it in the file explorer, \Windows. I'm not sure if you can delete those files though. I'd just flash one of the numerous ROM's that doesn't include Office Mobile, there's many of them.
Office Mobile is in most cases (there are CABs out there, so that you can install it on stirage card) in the ROM and can't be deleted in an easy way. The File Explorer doesn't delete it. Midnight Commander can delete files, which are in the Main ROM, but only use if you know what you're doing! This program can delete all files - important system files, too!
The most easy way is, as ace already said, to flash a rom without Office Mobile. But be careful and read a lot before you flash a new rom! A broken flash may cause a broken phone!
That is one of my biggest fears is bricking my phone and not being able to bring it back. I am currently running SPB Mobile 3.0 and I like that a lot. That is what I would like to run permanently. Maybe when i upgrade or buy a new phone I will practice on my old wing. Thanks guys for the info!
program mem == application mem
storage mem == files on your device
application mem is used by programming which are running nothing else
storage mem is used by files stored on your device
freeing up app mem don't give more storage and virsa versa
Hello,
Earlier today, I copied a file named AVATOR.PNG into the \Windows folder of my HTC Touch HD (running Grzegorz10s custom Dusk ROM). The file was meant to replace an existing Avator.png file. (The graphics file is part of a skinned Manila 2.5 installation, but that's beside the point.) I ended up with two separate files in \Windows; one named AVATOR.PNG and the other named Avator.png.
At this point, I can't remove either file, nor can I change their file properties. A few days ago (before doing a task 29 and reflashing the ROM to improve device performance), I could replace the packaged file without problem. The procedure at that time was simply to stop HTC Sense from the list of Home Screen items, remove the read only attribute of Avator.png, and overwrite it with another graphic with the same name.
This time, I apparently didn't pay enough attention to upper and lower case characters.... To view the symptoms and issue, please refer to this YouTube video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMQkgENs0DA
Can anybody help me out? I could always reflash the ROM but it seems like too much work for something this "simple."
Thanks,
Svein
ok, you already wrote, you will care for case sentitivity next time, so no lecturing there
these might sound stupid, but have you tried, either renaming AVATOR.png (the one you copied there, if i'm not mistaking) to Avator.png (should either ask to overwrite or at least give another error) or something completely unrelated (to get rid of the conflict)?
can you maybe move that file to, say, my documents\ and delete it there?
the only other things, that would come to mind would be to write a script to delete that one file and run it in startup, before anything else starts, or in a UC environment, where also nearly everything else is stopped, but to be honest, you should rather perform a hard reset, much faster.
Chef_Tony said:
ok, you already wrote, you will care for case sentitivity next time, so no lecturing there
these might sound stupid, but have you tried, either renaming AVATOR.png (the one you copied there, if i'm not mistaking) to Avator.png (should either ask to overwrite or at least give another error) or something completely unrelated (to get rid of the conflict)?
can you maybe move that file to, say, my documents\ and delete it there?
the only other things, that would come to mind would be to write a script to delete that one file and run it in startup, before anything else starts, or in a UC environment, where also nearly everything else is stopped, but to be honest, you should rather perform a hard reset, much faster.
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Thanks, Tony. Yeah, the case sensitivity is a given - my bad. And I will likely opt for a hard reset. I had *really* looked forward to not having to reconfigure my device again, now that I finally found a ROM that I thoroughly enjoy, but alas... The files are locked (can't move, delete, or change attributes no matter what...)
Googled "UC environment" with both HTC and windows mobile as keywords and came up with Unified Communication. Is that the right way to go or did I just blow my cover and will get tossed outta here as the functional, non-techie user that I just professed to be?
by UC, i was referring to the automatic customizations (formerly known as EXTROM), run after a hard reset or through an automatic installer integrated in many roms, i saw it as XDA_UC or Cloudy AutoInstall. Because the purpose of these automatic customizations are to install settings (mms, internet) or skins and wallpapers, usually done by your carrier, when running this setup, all connections are cut, all apps are shut down and only a basic windows mobile is running (also sense is shut down).
these autoinstallers can use cab or xml or mortscript files, but setting up a mortscript to try and delete a file, when you've never done it before, probably takes longer than hard resetting and setting up your device again. yet, you can make use of autoinstallers to get all your programs up and running, sync with myphone, and all that is left to do is make some basic settings like owner information. usually that should take less than an hour, that way, being much faster than searching solutions for several days
This software worked for me - dublicatefilesdeleter.com