My XDA2 now has a Sandisk 512MB card.
I also have Journal Bar, SPB pocket plus, Lextionary, Pocket Atlas, Pocket Stars, Currency Convertor X, a few games, (and a few others which I ran out of memory).
What I want to know is how exactly do I get the programmes to run from the sd card, so that the XDA2 memory isn't used to store them.
I have tried x-backup, and I have tried cutting the files using file explorer to the sd card, but then the programmes do not run from the start menu.
I'm sure it's something simple but please let me in on it!
So near, and yet so far!
well when you install programs using activesync you can choose between
if you want to install it in main mem or storage
some programs dont work though if you install them to the storage
if you dont want to install the programs again you may be able to edit the shortcut and pointing the path to the new location and some programs may also require some regediting for them to work after being moved
if you dont want to edit the shortcuts then you can just make new ones
whats under programs is just which shortcuts that are located in windows\programs
Thanks for the help.. made sure I said no to installing in default directory.. now to see if each programme works.. Thanks for the help!
Similar position
Hi Gumby I'm in a similar position to you in that I just got a 512Mb SD today and I intend to rebuils my system with appropriate applications on the SD. Have you found out yet which work from the SD and which only work from ROM?
It would be halpful for everyone if we could get a list of what should go where.
Related
I use the Storage to store some DLLs to save space. It works, not for all programs though.
Have tried installing programs to storage before (Journal Bar and Avantgo) but system seemed to be unstable afterwards.
Wonder if anyone has any good experience of storing and running other programs from Storage.
Also, has anyone tried installing the cab files from extended rom to Storage??? Is that possible at all???
RE
Yes, you can use Storage to store your cab files for the EXTROM.
BTW, program cab files for Storage and EXTROM are those that don't upgrade frequently otherwise you'll have to hard reset frequently too
Using Storage or Storage Cards should be avoided for anything on the today screen or anything which is bound to a hardware button. This is because the SD drivers take a little time to initialise when the device powers up and can result in files not being found - which can lead to small or big problems, depending on the nature of the 'missing' file.
This is why Pocket Plus cannot be installed in Storage any more and why Pocket Informant recommends installation into main memory. This is documented both by Spb Software House and WebIS.
I was beta testing SpbWeather and had some of the skins installed to Storage - whenever I used those skins, the plug-in was icon-less on power up, but main memory skins were fine.
As mentioned above, be careful selecting where to install Today Screen plug-ins.
As of the Storage, well I am not sure but I recommed you put in SMALL items in there since the storage becomes unstable at times because to OS may use a little of the Storage space to accomodate memory intensive applications like Adobe Acrobat. Correct me if I am wrong but this is what I understand about it.
Mvmajorem said:
As mentioned above, be careful selecting where to install Today Screen plug-ins.
As of the Storage, well I am not sure but I recommed you put in SMALL items in there since the storage becomes unstable at times because to OS may use a little of the Storage space to accomodate memory intensive applications like Adobe Acrobat. Correct me if I am wrong but this is what I understand about it.
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Ther is so little storage there, why not just ignore it and use SD memory, or main memory where required?
I use storage to store my wma ringtones... haven't have the guts to move the DLLs yet. with regards to this... if i create a folder named Windows in Storage and move all my DLLs there would I need to hack into the apps individually ang make them look at this folder... or will the OS automatically look at both folders? Some people say to use systempath to do this.
bnycastro said:
I use storage to store my wma ringtones... haven't have the guts to move the DLLs yet. with regards to this... if i create a folder named Windows in Storage and move all my DLLs there would I need to hack into the apps individually ang make them look at this folder... or will the OS automatically look at both folders? Some people say to use systempath to do this.
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As I know U have to hack the registry files of single appz to point in to storage folder instead in the main memory... :roll:
Regards,
Primoz
belfast-biker said:
Ther is so little storage there, why not just ignore it and use SD memory, or main memory where required?
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It's 10% of the device's memory, that's not insignificant and certainly not worth wasting. I store 13.2Mb of utilities and etc. in Storage so that it frees up the same amount of Main Memory but permits me to use them when swapping cards. I think it's a waste not to use it.
Into my Storage i have install :
Resco keyboard pro
Laplink controller
Handymenu
Hottbutton plus
Phone today
Today phone pro
VIto voice dialer
Used space for all this 3.21 mb
Free space 4.31 mb
I Don't have any problem at all, my JAM works smoothly & stable plus the today plugins run faster than ever...
Try with no doubt ...
OK HERES THE THING I FLASHED TO LATEST ROM WITH A2DP AND AKU AND EVERYTHING THE QTEK VERSION AND ITS WORKING PRETTY FAST , AND THEN I INSTALL SPB POCKET PLUS AND SPD WEATHER , NOW EVERYTIME I TURN ON THE PHONE OR FLIP THE SCREEN, THERES A 5-10SEC DELAY ON THE TOUCHSCREEN/BUTTONS
WHY IS THIS?
AND SHOULD I GET RID OF SPB
AND HAVE ANY OF YOU HAD THE SIMILAR PROBLEM
PLZ LMK
got a similar problem (although after installing Pocket and Contact Breeze), but learned to live with it.... i think its a memory issue and the today programs using too much memory.
First thing to do is to turn off the SD memory card checking in all today plugins - this should get rid of the main part of the delay...
Hi rancorp!
Where did you install these plugins? If you installed them on the SD-card you should
reinstall them to your Execs flash. I've experience similar problems with SBSH Pocket Breeze
and its Plugins which basically do the same SPB does.
Since I moved the installation to the device everythin ran much better.
I suppose this corresponds to Lordsmiffs advice since a PPC inits its hardware on
wakeup and if he has to init the SD and start things from there it takes time.
Have fun!
mikrolinux
universal speed
operation in most areas should be sub 2 seconds.
some good advice above.
1. Remove memory readers of SD card
2. Install all applications that you use on the today screen to device
3. Remove all icons that look at the sd card for their picture
4. Do not put pocket skype icon anywhere visible, it is a known really really slow bug
5. Common ones well known.... Remove antivirus, turn off error checking, remove auto accept beams
6. If you dont use video call methods, use the original simple phone skin (details are available on wiki)
7. Look at your SPB application, and ensure that you are using what you need... I found I the extras of spb slow it down, the basic today plug in is fast
8. Look at anything else in your startup
9. Look at how much data you are synchronising by referring to your .vol file in the root directory of your folder system
I think a bit more information on your device is necessary. It should be fast. What does your system ram run at on a fresh soft reset.
Excuse me for asking... how to turn off the SD memory card checking in today plugins? Thanks.
stanip said:
Excuse me for asking... how to turn off the SD memory card checking in today plugins? Thanks.
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I believe they were referring to 3rd party applications that have SD card memory capacity indicator plug-ins. I don't think any shipped ROM has a SD card indicator plug-in.
Thanks cktlcmd.
Hi gang. Does anyone know if there is a hack to move the "My Docs" folder to store by default on my super duper 2gb storage card instead of on my device memory.
cheers
My Documents
No difficulty here. Just create a My Documents folder in root directory of storage card, can also put a my documents, my pictures and my videos folder inside it. Plus anything else you may want.
Need to then make sure all your programmes know to save to storage card. Some progs will know to look for these folders others need to be told in their settings menues.
I save nothing to on-board memory and the my documents folders are left on the system memory but remain empty.
Mike
Cheers Mike
That sort of works, although I have activesync to sync my files, & I can't find anywhere to change this option to look at the storage card. It keeps resorting to the device memory default location.
Many thanks
Shane
I'd been trying to do that, posted previously with no joy
sparkz said:
Cheers Mike
That sort of works, although I have activesync to sync my files, & I can't find anywhere to change this option to look at the storage card. It keeps resorting to the device memory default location.
Many thanks
Shane
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Yes activesync will be more of a problem as you'll see from following links, but might give some possibilities:
http://www.pocketpctweaks.com/pocketpc_tweaks/SD_card_my_documents
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=259823
Mike
Did anyone get this to work on the Tytn?
I have started to play around with this from the Magic instructions, but am having some problems.
Please let me know.
Hello,
after Using Meschles Touch 3.1 WWE -Rom I wondered how I used up my remaining 46mb main Storage, since I usually put all programs etc on my 8GB SDHC-Card.
Is there any tool that would give me an idea, what programms use how much of my storage? (in Activesync I do not see whether programs are in main or external storage, SKTools does also not show all my installed programes).
How much would I save round about, if I start to compile some programs into self-cooked roms?
How can I find out, wheather my pagefile -memero is 2, 4, 6 or 8 MB?
Thanks for your help
You may go to
mydevice>application data>volatile
open volatile then delet whatever inside it. You may get extra 9 mega.
pocket mechanic is great for that as it. It can also move programs from main memory to storage card (including all relevant files, registry info etc..)
Re:
Thanks for your efforts. I tried both, but I could not free anything, maybe that volatile folder might also be emptied by oxios hibernate?!?
Pocket Mechanic seems quite similar to SKTools, actually there were many programs I could not move, du I even did not information wheather they are on main or external storage (like tomtom). I guess its theses kind of programm who also do not ask you wheather you want to install on external or main memory ;-(
Hi there
Thanks in addvance
Could any body help i think i read some ware in this forum that less files in windows folder meens that your device runs faster !!
I also think I read some program can only be installed to windows\ I Don't know which? programs need to be in which directory or is it all down to the reg enteries or is it dependent on the *.exe & *.dll files
If it is posible to install office mobile to something like \program files\OfficeMobile\ ?, Would there be any benifits for doing this ? or would i be wasting my time ?
It seems a lot of programs install into windows\
Easy - if you know how!
swampy395 said:
Hi there
Thanks in addvance
Could any body help i think i read some ware in this forum that less files in windows folder meens that your device runs faster !!
I also think I read some program can only be installed to windows\ I Don't know which? programs need to be in which directory or is it all down to the reg enteries or is it dependent on the *.exe & *.dll files
If it is posible to install office mobile to something like \program files\OfficeMobile\ ?, Would there be any benifits for doing this ? or would i be wasting my time ?
It seems a lot of programs install into windows\
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Various options here mate (listed in order of user level):
In WM5+ you can choose to install to the Storage Card by default - any programs that cannot be installed here will usually tell you when you try, and ask you to try again in the correct folder.
Go get yourself a copy of a program called Pocket Mechanic and it has an option that lets you move programs to your storage card (it changes all the links/shortcuts and reg entries for you) - it can also move the 'My Documents folder and IE cache, too - saving even more space.
Find a program called CECabManager (30 day trial) which lets you edit the cab files for programs and change their default install folder.
WARNING
ALWAYS backup your device before playing around with this stuff - it's a real P.I.T.A. when you have got yourself almost set up, then you destroy the system, or cause a glitch!
My best advice is to go buy a copy of Spb Clone and install that before you fiddle about! Also, backup your PIM data to Outlook, or with Spb Backup, too! Then you're pretty much safe to do what you want, as you can always go back if all goes tits up!
Bird
Bird_FAT said:
Various options here mate (listed in order of user level):
In WM5+ you can choose to install to the Storage Card by default - any programs that cannot be installed here will usually tell you when you try, and ask you to try again in the correct folder.
Go get yourself a copy of a program called Pocket Mechanic and it has an option that lets you move programs to your storage card (it changes all the links/shortcuts and reg entries for you) - it can also move the 'My Documents folder and IE cache, too - saving even more space.
Find a program called CECabManager (30 day trial) which lets you edit the cab files for programs and change their default install folder.
WARNING
ALWAYS backup your device before playing around with this stuff - it's a real P.I.T.A. when you have got yourself almost set up, then you destroy the system, or cause a glitch!
My best advice is to go buy a copy of Spb Clone and install that before you fiddle about! Also, backup your PIM data to Outlook, or with Spb Backup, too! Then you're pretty much safe to do what you want, as you can always go back if all goes tits up!
Bird
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Thanks Bird
PS do you know it doe's run faster whith les files in windows folder ?
Speed or Space?!?!
swampy395 said:
Thanks Bird
PS do you know it doe's run faster whith les files in windows folder ?
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No idea - anyone?
I think that if you have too little space, you'll be in trouble when some programs run as they may need to use it as RAM or a swap file - I've filled it to within a MB or 2 and it has slowed down the system!
See my post in this thread for how I keep space in my Storage area (at the bottom of the second post)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=388249
If you're looking to speed up your system, why not try an overclocking utility?
I've just got Pocket Hack Master - I'm testing it now! I've used Anton's Pocket Mechanic for ages now, and so I'm pretty confident in the quality of the app.
http://www.wizcode.com/products/view/pocket_hack_master
And there is a starter guide here:
http://www.wizcode.com/articles/comments/pocket-hack-master-speed-configuration-guide/
Let me know your results!
Bird
Thanks again bird
Don't fancy clocking my CPU realy wanting to know if it's worth the effort of hacking all my *.cab files and OEMs to install into sub folders rather than windows\ Idear been Keeping as little as posible in the windows\ "folder" I could have a sleep some times waiting for file explorer to finish opening windows\ was hopeing that if there's less in windows\ the device my run faster with a smaller directory ??
Thanks
swampy395
Possibly...
You could always try using Pocket Mechanic!!
Instead of hacking the cabs, you could just use Pocket Mechanic - it will move the programs across to your SD card and change all the reg entries, links, etc. for you!
I find that there are some cabs that really don't like to be hacked! But, if that's the route you want to go down (saves having to do it all again in the future), then CECabManager is definitely the way to go! Pretty pricey software, but gives you a nice 30 day trial period to play with it! Just remember to remove any 'setup.dll's' from the tree in the left-hand window if you change anything - can cause the install to muck up if you don't!
And the best bit of software on the net in my opinion is Spb Clone (god I love Spb software - it's just so good!) - once you get your system looking and working how you want it to, just clone the whole thing on to some spare space on your card and you're safe from any general errors! Use Pocket Mechanic to move all your documents, mail and cache folders onto the SD card and you're even safer - go one step further and get Spb Backup to save teh PIM data onto your SD, too and you get ultimate safety (as long as you remember to save reguarly LoL!):
PIM synced with main PC or onto SD with Spb Backup
Documents, mail and cache on SD
Clone of system on SD
Any screw ups, any dodgy software, ANY problems and you just go back a few days!
SORTED!!
Bird
Free even MORE space!!
Found a way to get even more space! Really helpful for me when I want to play certain games, as some of them were refusing to start as they needed more space than I had. I managed to claw back about 8meg, but then I have somewhat overloaded my BAs with about 250 apps/games! )
Using Pocket Mechanic, you can move the AppMgr file from the Windows directory of you BA onto your Storage Card - (the original folder structure will be recreated if you try to install anything new!) - when it's finished, just soft reset your BA and VIOLA! more space in the storage section.
***********NOTE***********
If you want to delete any of your apps - or even install a new version over the top of an old one, you have to move the corresponding folder from the AppMgr folder on your Storage Card back into Windows/ApMgr or the uninstall/reinstall will fail - If you haven't installed anything since you last moved the AppMgr folder, then you will have to create the AppMgr folder before moving the folder of the app you wish to delete.
Have fun,