MicroSD taken out, Backlight pops on. - Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General

Hi guys,
When i take my MicroSD card out of my Herald and Kaiser, The device turns on.
I need to turn it off manually wich i hate to be honest.
Is there any program/development to disable this feature..?
I thought i post this thread here since i think more people have this problem.
Thanks in Advance,
ElProempie

happens on every WM device, it turns on, when u insert and remove ur sd card. Doubt theres a way to stop it without effecting how/when the device recognizes the card...

It only does that since i got my new 8GB microsd card. When i had a 512 MB rolleyes card, it didn't do that..
That's why i made a thread about this.

I never knew this was a problem. So it might be a problem with "Some" people!
I've not heard of anything that would stop this from happening. Doesn't it act like Plug and Play devices for PC? Like when I plug in my memory card reader, the PC wakes up...

You mean automatic playback on XP..?
Yeah i know but i use my Herald now on holiday as a photocamera, So i need to swap between phone and PC.
And my battery isn't that good anymore, i want to switch this off so i can use my battery much longer.

buy a new memory card

A new one again.. I allready have a new 8GB MicroSDHC card
Those things arent cheap here..

yeh, my hermes does this samething with any microcard...

Don't take it out...
I hot glued mine in place. A little bit of hot glue then a hair dryer to smooth it out nice and pretty. Hot glue works great and can easily be removed with out hurting anything. I have most all my addon programs installed there so taking out my sd causes problems. Not to mention all email sync'd from my exchange sync. I had a couple 1GB cards go bad after being removed at inoportune times. I just use my active sync and USB cable to write to it. My 2GB card has been in the phone for about a year now with no problems. I only take it out to flash the phone, and then only when it's powered down.
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Tips on not losing minisd card

any suggestions on securely keeping the minisd card in place. i am on my 3rd card in 4 weeks and its getting kind of annoying at this point. the first time i lost the card was when i dropped the mda and didnt realize the card was missing until the following morning. i lost the 2nd card mysteriously during the night. any suggestions would be helpful, thanks.
Keep the MDA in its case? I haven't lost my MiniSD card and i've had my phone for about 4 weeks, but i keep it in the holster 80% of the time and almost always when i'm not home or it isn't in my hand directly...
How are you using your phone? How are you storing it? Etc.?
it usually in my holster, i just get clumsy at times...pretty sure that i lose the cards when i just drop my phone and forget to check if the card is still in... i was thinking of putting a layer of tape over it...
maybe i should just be more careful
nikegeo said:
maybe i should just be more careful
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....maybe? Tape also sounds like a good idea.
Tape may be tacky, but it sure beats purchasing a new card!!
I lost the fake mini sd card that came with my wizard, but have yet to loose my 1 gig card. I think I would cry...
I have my phone now since June or so and still haven't lost my card - I'd be devastated it it happened, I just realised I need to do a backup of that card !!!
Clear Tape sounds good to me.
double post, sorry.
Perhaps your locking mechanism for the minisd card is (semi)broken? You mentioned it had fallen the first time...?
I still have to push the card in pretty hard with my fingernail to get it to pop out, so for your cards to fall out so easily makes you think the minisd card(s) might not lock in correctly?
I have to say I've never had an issue with my card falling out of the slot. It locks in pretty firmly. I suspect a defective slot. Or perhaps you're not pushing it in quite far enough to enable to lock?
nikegeo said:
any suggestions on securely keeping the minisd card in place. i am on my 3rd card in 4 weeks and its getting kind of annoying at this point. the first time i lost the card was when i dropped the mda and didnt realize the card was missing until the following morning. i lost the 2nd card mysteriously during the night. any suggestions would be helpful, thanks.
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Dude after I read this my SD some how came out at a friends house and I didnt know until I tried to run some of my apps of my card. Some skater tape works well and it looks much cooler if you run it all around and cut out the spots for the various items.
Install NotifyMe.. it alerts when your MiniSD pops -out or deliberately removed from the phone.
Just execute the EXE anywhere on the phone and it automatically puts a shortcut on Start - Settings - Personal and configure from there..
peraltah said:
Dude after I read this my SD some how came out at a friends house and I didnt know until I tried to run some of my apps of my card. Some skater tape works well and it looks much cooler if you run it all around and cut out the spots for the various items.
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That's really an... interesting thought. Anyone have any luck with duct tape?
Mesh said:
Perhaps your locking mechanism for the minisd card is (semi)broken? You mentioned it had fallen the first time...?
I still have to push the card in pretty hard with my fingernail to get it to pop out, so for your cards to fall out so easily makes you think the minisd card(s) might not lock in correctly?
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It's also got something to do with the card itself. I have a 2 GB Apacer card which has never popped out, and even after I eject it I have to pull it out by hand, it won't drop out if I shake the phone or turn it upside down.
But I also have an older 512 or 1MB card (don't remember the brand name and can't find it any more). If I just push it in to eject it, it almost flies out of the slot. If I eject it and then hold the phone upside down it just drops out.
So I guess my tip is: If you've lost one, dont buy the same brand/size again without trying it in your phone
thanks for that app and advice guys
da_mayhem - thanks for that program - just tested it out and now at least when im drunk and lose the card ill know to look for it - going into my essential apps folder - thanks again
nikegeo said:
da_mayhem - thanks for that program - just tested it out and now at least when im drunk and lose the card ill know to look for it - going into my essential apps folder - thanks again
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No problem mate..now i'm thinking about how to make my mini sd glow in the dark lol
this may not be wat ur asking, but i always forget my mini sd in my mem card reader >.<

Mini SD problems again ...

Hi,
This is my first post in this forum so I apologise if I am breaking any rules concerning repeating posts.
My problem is that I have a 2Gb mini SD card which appears to be very unreliable when used with the Vario. Sometimes I cannot get it to work at all. Well, sometimes I can get it to work .
However, when I insert it on an Axim PDA it works 100% of the times (through a mini-normal adapter).
I suspect that the problem may be with the Vario itself particularly the contacts mechanism. The reason I am saying this is that I can make it work sometimes by adding a bit of tape to the opposite side of the contacts in an attempt to make them press more against the Vario's ones. But this doesn't always cure the problem.
I am wondering whether anyone has any thoughts about this problem instead of just blaming the sd-card.
Cheers
jmf
I bought a 2GB card too that was acting weird with the MDA Vario. It was one from Transcend. Sometimes parts would be visible, sometimes the whole card was invisible. Returned it to the reseller, and asked for a Sandisk instead. Not the fastest card in the world, but at least it works. Not sure why the Transcend card wouldn't work though...
If you can, exchange the card for another.
I've had similar issues as the OP with my Kingston. It either shows up or doesn't. If it just refuses to show up, I can usually soft-boot to get it back. Often though, just reinserting it several times will eventually get it back online. Very odd problem though.
Thanks for your replies guys,
I think I am going to try a new card just for my piece of mind. But judging by the number of issues on mini-sd cards associated with the Vario I would say it is a phone issue rather then a card issue.
Is there a range of cards that don't seem to give problems with the Vario?
Cheers
jmf
there r many fakes around, many many...so they r not phone issues but different card problems...i use a 1gb nokia (not the best brand) that is working perfectly but i read somewhere that someone had problems with kingston (yea, kingston, mister memory in person, they make really good memorys) so i guess is a matter of luck and formating the card every now and then...i do it using wm5torage...
i had bought a 2gig Topram off ebay about 5-6 months ago, has worked flawlessly, had a 1gig topram before that, never had issues with either
Hi,
It appears that the best thing to do is to put a little bit of tape on the card (on the side opposite to the contacts).
Doing this seems to increase the number of times the card works.
I am now using 2 layers. I am wondering whether I am loosening the contacts and will, as a result, need to add more layers in the future.
Dodgy.....
jmf
Howdy,
Xda rocks! Top of the line situation!
The mini worked fine for a few weeks!
Than after installing some cab yesterday the 8125 locked up and locked up until I removed the sd card!
I cant locate the cab that did it, if that was the real problem anyway?
So with NO sd card the 8125 is about useless, except for a phone!
Great phone, but the pda has no storage now!
I sync and no problem, until I install the card than "FREEZE solid" and I have to eject the card, soft reset and good to go in the limited way!
Could someone help before I sling the thing!
Thanks very much!
Just added. . .. .. . ... . ... .. .. . ..
I did the deadly HARD reset and the card works now!
I didn't want to do that!
Cause I didn't have a backup but the thing is brand new so I didn't loose much!
Later

Micro SD not recognised on insertion!!!

Hi All,
Wonder if this is common or should I return the unit now. Had my Dopod 838 Pro for a week now. Great phone/PDA but since new, it does not always recognise a Micro SD card at first insertion. Tried 1x512 Sandisk and 2x1gb Ultra II cards with same issue. Phone has latest ROM from factory, 1.03.707.4. The insertion seems "clunky" too, that is, it doesn't go in smoothly like regular SD and Mini SD devices I have got.
What I have noticed is that if I only insert just enough to lock the card in it seems okay, but if I push it firmly home, it is more likely to remain unrecognised.
In every case, once recognised, it runs, saves, reads from the card flawlessly so it does seem like this is a hardware issue. But if all the Hermes phones are similar, it may be just one of those characteristics of the phone and nothing too much to worry about. Just like to know so I can relax or act as the case may be.
Thanks for any feedback guys...
John
Yes, I have found a similar issue. If I remove and re-insert the card a few times it eventually gets noticed.
It's the only glitch I have had on the device after 3 flawless months
MarkD said:
Yes, I have found a similar issue. If I remove and re-insert the card a few times it eventually gets noticed.
It's the only glitch I have had on the device after 3 flawless months
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Quite a few seem to take a few goes before recognised but usually seem to work fine once recognised.
Might be a bit concerned about jpfe8851's clunky slot and if it seems to go past the normal stopping point - Have not seen reports about this and mine does not do this.
Mike
I've noticed that it works everytime for me if I insert the card with the device turned off.
Martin
If you use your camera application to save the pictures on a memorycard, try to run the camera after inserting the card if it doesn't detect it. The camera app. then informs you that there's a new memcard inserted and do you wanna use it to save the files on.
Not so much of an hasle, considering how often you really remove/insert memory cards and the hermes has the camera button just opposite to card slot. And the application doesn't stay on the process list if you close it from the X (cross on upper right corner). The OK button doesn't completely close the application.
Inc said:
I've noticed that it works everytime for me if I insert the card with the device turned off.
Martin
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Same with me I turn it off to remove and then turn it off to insert and it will pick up the card
y2whisper said:
Same with me I turn it off to remove and then turn it off to insert and it will pick up the card
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This sounds like good practice and I'm sure for most folks this works. I think though there some people that struggle to get Hermes to recognise the card even when inserting it when off. Generally it does recognise it in the end but there could be a few reasons for these issues (formatting, fragmentation, poor physical contact and so on).
I think your advice is good though and should become routine whenever the card is removed/inserted.
Mike
I've used a 1GB PQI, a 2GB normal Sandisk, and a 2GB Sandisk Ultra, and all have worked fine. Except one of the 2GB doesn't like my card reader
i found formatting the card help. Originally it would only be detected if the phone was turned off.
Unfortunately I didn't have a card reader, so used an adapter to format it in my digital camera and have no idea how it formatted it. But it now works everytime without fail!
Thanks Guys...
Sounds like this is fairly common. I've found even since I posted the original question, that provided I just push the card until it clicks, it starts up every time. With my old Axim x50v and Atom, I had to really push the SD cards as far as possible to engage the lock whereas the Dopod clicks just after the edge of the card is past flush. Gently does it seems the rule.
Mike, I appreciate your concern but the clunkiness I think is more related to the card design, having the bumps along one side, than the slot. Also, these things are all rated as hot swappable, so we should all not have to turn off just to change a card. I don't change cards that often, but when I travel, I swap cards a bit as I take a couple cards with music on to listen to while flying.
For all with the issue, I suggest you do as I said in the first paragraph as that seems to be the clue, just press the card until you feel it engage the lock and see what happens.
Thanks all for your feedback. I'll carry on without a visit to service as the phone is terrific and the keyboard (my reason to replace the Atom) is superb.
Best regards,
John
*Solution*
I've also had the same problem, but I think I've figured it out and it's a hardware issue.
If you don't pay attention to how you put the card in, it will go in "crooked". The problem is that the little notch on the side of the microSD won't activate the switch inside the phone that tells it that "the card is in".
The solution is to watch very closely how the card goes in. If you make sure that the side of the microSD card with the notch, goes in straight and flush with the side of the slot, it will recognize it every time.
i've done all the suggestions given on this topic but i still can't get my JasJam, which is about 13hours old, to recognice my microSD card. I've tried a 512mb and a 1gb and no luck... i'm leaving tomorrow and i'm worried if the service center will want to repair it rather than exchange it.
hi fone_fanatic,
if its a fault with the jasjam, you will receive a replacement if its under 30 days old. but the replacement procedure sucks.
Are you in Australia and a Telstra customer? If so, telstra calls imate support to obtain a service reference number, then they will send your pda to mobile phone solutions (MPS) in QLD, they will inspect it and then return a new jasjam to your retail outlet. once the retail outlet receives it they will give you a call to come and collect it.
the warranty is Imate, not telstra, so once it leaves their stores, imate are the ones who do the replacement through Mobile Phone Solutions.
Turn around time, 1 week for my replacement to be couriered to QLD from Melbourne, 5 days turn around time from MPS, 4 days for the new replacement to be couriered back to melbourne, 1 day for me to pick it up. so around 3 weeks.
Now, MPS is closed from Dec 22 to Jan 3 and they are out of JASJAMS, they are awaiting more from imate for warranty replacements (my friend is wating for his replacement) so turn around time could be longer.
life sucks sometimes......
Thanks for that info Jasjamming. I'm in saudi arabia visiting family and friends for the holidays, and the process you just described soounds very similar to the one that was described to me today. BUT... turns out the device is fine, the cards i tried were both Nokia MicroSD cards that came with nokia phones and for some reason the jasjam won't read them. So i bought a 1gig Sandisk and it works fine!
Im having the same issue with my Hermes and a Sandisk 2gb card. It worked fine for a few weeks, but now wont detect at all. Interestingly the screen comes on when the card is inserted or removed - I'll test the card in a reader to see what shows...
A soft reset always seems to work for me
aprmike said:
Im having the same issue with my Hermes and a Sandisk 2gb card. It worked fine for a few weeks, but now wont detect at all. Interestingly the screen comes on when the card is inserted or removed - I'll test the card in a reader to see what shows...
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There's a thread here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=294324 which gives some fixes to this problem. The thread is a bit long so it may be best to read from the end backwards.
Also, I believe this problem has been taken care of in the cooked WM6 roms. My SD card hasn't disappeared since upgrading to WM6, but did all the time when with Vodafones UK rom.
broken microSD card?
I have a Sandisk 2GB microSD card, that after a few days stopped working. Whenever I insert it, the device hangs completely. It doesn't matter whether I had turned off the device before inserting. The device stays unresponsive when I eject the card again, I always have to do a soft reset to bring the device back to live. I tried to insert the card carefully (as someone here mentioned the issue with the little notch), but it doesn't make any difference. The card is never recognized, not even after a soft reset. This is obviously very frustrating, as I had just installed a couple of useful apps on the card.
Do I need a new card or is there anything else I could try? ( I do not have a card reader....)
ROM: 1.23.78.3
ROM date: 08/01/06
Radio: 1.06.00.00
it must be the sandisk 2GB microSD cards as i have one to worked great for a week, then stopped working....i formated using the pc and now it is recognized as a 1 GB card, in both phone and pc..
QuachMD said:
I've also had the same problem, but I think I've figured it out and it's a hardware issue.
If you don't pay attention to how you put the card in, it will go in "crooked". The problem is that the little notch on the side of the microSD won't activate the switch inside the phone that tells it that "the card is in".
The solution is to watch very closely how the card goes in. If you make sure that the side of the microSD card with the notch, goes in straight and flush with the side of the slot, it will recognize it every time.
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Quoted for truth.

miniSD card problems??

my miniSD card keeps crashing.. every time i reformat it.. (just bought it brand new 2 weeks ago.) but it keeps crashing after a little while..
so my girlfriends dad put tomtom 6 on mij sd card last night..
i look in the morning.. and 90% of my mp3 songs wont work anymore.. and my entire map with tomtom in it was gone?????? like wtf??
i got a wizard G3 with the underground edition.. and a 1 GB miniSD card..
reformated it on the computer and with more then 1 program on the phone..
(on the pc was my last time.. (like 2 hours ago...) did not crash so far..)
any1 has a solution for me??
thnx and greetz
where did you buy the card? what brand is it? how did you format it before it crash? is the card size displayed on the PC correct?
i bought it @ norrod in groningen/holland.. brand ... dunno... i used the phone to format it right after i bought it... and yes.. its being displayed normally.. unless it crashes.. cause even on the computer it wont copy things off.
even though.. it crashed again.. all the data was gone.. but at memory it still sees 50 mb used.. :\
god damn it.. i'm going to throw that *#&(#&%(&^)@)(!(@%$& phone out the window :S
I presume Norrod is a name of a shop. Anyway, it seems to be reputable. Unless you can confirm the brand, chances are it may be a faulty one (luck is not on your side). However, the good news is that, it may be a 1 off thing that it may not happen again. There are chances of SD card being wacky if you have your phone hanged and soft reset, which happened to be once when I was messing with my phone. But it never occurred again.
As for formatting on the phone, there are members reporting problems with card formatted on the phone. Since you have formatted on the PC, it ought to solve that problem. Hopefully it won't happen again.
well i had a 512 mb kingston before.. and it crashed 2.. so i threw it away.. cause it had bad sectors.. ( i had that 1 for about 1 year...)
and now this 1 crashes.. i thought mayby it had something to do with the underground edition and the omapclock.. from 180 to 228 or 240..
but it doesn't seem to be.. cause i've been running the last 2 days on normal 180...
I have a 2Gb unbranded memory card and have the same problem, I've managed to find that the memory gets corrupt when the card gets cold (3-4 Deg c), it's fine at room temp.
Got to replace it at some point.
Kingston cards usually have a lifetime guarantee... if you are able to find the package and the card, you may able to get yourself a new card.
hi
Try benchmark tools to evaluate the memory card..
before buying the memory cards..
SD carda
What is it about SD cards and Wizards. If mine takes a slight knock it cant see the card anymore - I have to re-insert it.
I recently got a cheap 2GB card from Hong Kong. Was a load of rubbish. Top tip, dont make the same mistake. Basically had a load of bad sectors and crc write errored all the time.
I have my old 1GB card in at the mo, and apart from the knocking issue (almost certainly a fault with the wizard) it works fine.
Anyone come across the issue where the SD card cant be seen by the phone anymore?
atdavie said:
Anyone come across the issue where the SD card cant be seen by the phone anymore?
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Hi everyone, I recently started having the same problem with my 1gb mem card, and its starting to annoy me now. Would'nt mind to much if I new what caused it. I havent knocked the phone or played around the the mini sd card.
Quick question, Just wondering whats the largest memory card you can put in a xda mini s.
Thanks
Mark

Micro SD Problem

I had recently bought a cingular 8525..... and i bought a scandisk 2gb micro SD card..... but when i try to push the card in it gets stuck and the card doesnt comes out..... i have to remove the battery and pull the card with the clipper...... but the dummy card goes in and comes out perfectly..... wht shall i do.... i have tried this with 2-3 brands micro SD cards
Same here. Althugh with a little fiddeling my Hermes recognised the Card. And as I haven't planned to remove it again any time soon I can live with that.
You have to be carefull when putting the card in. I had the same problem at the start, you have to put it in really straight and make sure you here a click. If you here a scrape, then it get corrupt.
Didn't want to make new thread, so I bumped...
I am having same problem. I tried to put the card in (2 gb sandisk micro SD) and now its stuck and not seen by the Phone. How did the first poster get his out? I looked under the battery, but I don't see an easy way to get to the card. Any help is much appreciated, since I cannot use my card yet...TIA!
ive experienced the same problem. seems like its a "breaking in" issue.
as you get used to putting it in and pulling it out it will ultimately just sink in. meaning, youd be able to click it in and click it out..
never had one problem with the 3 sandisk cards i use..
I did struggle the first time after taking the new Hermes out of the box but no problems since - since the first go I just do it really carefully, making sure it's absolutely straight.
SD cards are a nice, even shape but MicroSD have a funny shape to them - a degree out in insertion angle (oo-er, missus) and it seems you're stumped. Took me ages to get the thing out first time.
Thanks for the help, I was able to get it out with a very small flat screwdriver. It is very sensitive, and I make sure that I get the "click" before I push it all the way in. Thx.
tried taking out my sdhc earlier and seems like i have no problems anymore..
Guys,
Try using forum search. I posted a working solution to this issue here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=284672
Dave
Micro SD card issues
I too had the same problem for 2 or 3 times, getting it in is the trick, very delicate.
The first time I inserted it, it didn't register and it wouldn't come out with a click, sort of had to pry it out delicately out of there, the second time, the device recognized it, taking it out it clicked but hesitated a bit, by the third time, no problem. Now it works exactly like it should.
The question is, is it the slot that gets broken-in or the card itself? I have another card on order, I'll know the answer to that soon, allthough I think it's the actual slot inside that assumes the shape it should or something, probably the pins-connectors inside that have to flex a couple of times.
Scary at first but it seems to fix itself.
God I love my phone, is it wrong to be so obsessed with it?

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