HTC Shift finally ships in Europe - Shift General

hi
look at this
http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/11/htc-shift-finally-ships-in-europe-still-nowhere-to-be-found-in/

Wow, how kind of that US Engadget to post HTC Shift availability.
I wonder how it is possible that they have a better idea of what's happening than us in Europe and on this forum.
I am thinking of how HTC could possible make the Shift Launch any worse, I mean another delay ... we're used to that. Mediocre specifications ... No they got that one covered.
No clear word on Voice Calls or GPS ... Yep, that's still true.
Like most of us who would have enthusiastically snapped us this device mid 2007, come February 2008 the enthusiasm has somehow been lost.
Yours grumpily, marcus b.

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3G UTMS support soon on xda2!!!

i called the guy in the shop and he confirmed [email protected]!!!
happpy happy happy
loof lirpa
Yeah - and it comes with the 512 MB RAM upgrade as well - for free..
Regards
Michael
I'm not saying it is NOT possible....
But I WILL say that for 3G operation, HARDWARE is necessary, not just software.
So if it is true, then O2/HTC were very forward thinking, in that they must have included the HARDWARE within the XDA2 to allow this.
Which, forgive me, seems very strange.
So I am sceptical to say the least.
Not impossible per se, but if there is NOT the relevant hardware in the phone, then it IS impossible.
Additionally, as the XDA2 does not have a user facing camera, it does not match the specification standards of a full 3G device, and would not be an accepted handset on the 3 Network, so obviously, O2 take a very different view as to what constitutes a 3G handset, as video calling was meant to be part of the standard.
(Just like the new Nokia 7600 'tear drop' shaped phone - technically it has 3G hardware in it, that means it could operate on a 3G UTMS/WCDMA Network, but the limited feature set itself of the phone is such that no impending or current 3G carrier will accept it...)
Mmm - before anyone says I fell for it, his post is timed at 12.12, and any april fool joke is meant to be BEFORE 12pm or the joke is on the original joker.
So I assume its a serious post.
If not, then sorry mate, but you are too late for April Fools - thats before 12pm only...
damm i dident know that was the rule
Rudegar said:
i called the guy in the shop and he confirmed [email protected]!!!
happpy happy happy
loof lirpa
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Didnt nobody see the loof lirpa bit ?
well duh ! read it backwards ! :wink:
another thing about the correct time to make april fools then we are all in different time zone (well we are not all in our individual personal time zone but anyway)
dont that make it a bit diff to make april fool jokes online because
unless you are on those islands in the Pacific there the dateline is then there will always be somebody who's time is later then 12:00
Yeah.
And if YOU never spotted that I HAD fell for it, but then just needed an EXCUSE for me to look really intelligent, then we are equal now aren't we mate? :wink:
Seriously though, I guess the interent makes things a bit different, but within the UK, if you are gonna play an April Fool on someone, you have to do it before noon.
But no, I still hadn't spotted it was a wind up, so well done mate.
I thought that in the 12 O'clock rule wasn't applicable in Leap Years (such as this) so you could play jokes all day?
Bit like women being able to ask a man to marry them on the 29th Feb (or is it actually 14th feb - I'm never sure).
Just thought I'd throw that in to confuse matters :twisted:
not sure about leap years
but the women part i seem to recall that if the
man declide he have to give a 12 pair of gloves or something
crazy like that

WM6 For Advantage/Athena

If this has been posted already sorry but read here
HTC press realease
http://www.europe.htc.com/z/pdf/press/WM6_statement_v6.pdf
bond007 said:
If this has been posted already sorry but read here
HTC press realease
http://www.europe.htc.com/z/pdf/press/WM6_statement_v6.pdf
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thanks for this great news, looks like wm6 update is available for quite a lot of product (even p3300!). We should now expect T-mobile do the same.
Great news indeed to get offical confirmation etc. Buying my advantage in the morning!
Great news...
tanX foy good news
Why HTC make X7501?!!!!!!!!11
Great!
Good news! Come on T-Mobile!
-Krip
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tanX foy good news
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Can I ask you Arya, why do you always say tanX?
Is that supposed to mean 'Thanks' ?
Sometime Thanks fits and sometimes it doesn't...I'm just curious as you often use it. Could mean brown X ???
!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i say tanX for thanks!!!!!
i'm glad that i bought my advantage at htc .. so i can receive a "uncustomised" wm6 if available
I cant access the news im assuming this is announcement of wm6 officially coming to Advantage? yes hope so
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If this has been posted already sorry but read here
HTC press realease
http://www.europe.htc.com/z/pdf/press/WM6_statement_v6.pdf
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hmm, the link does not work for me.
Was working a few days ago, not now.
Arya said:
Why HTC make X7501?!!!!!!!!11
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Presumably the 7500 will be withdrawn when wm6 becomes available and sold as the 7501 instead. The different numbering makes it clear which OS you're buying.
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Presumably the 7500 will be withdrawn when wm6 becomes available and sold as the 7501 instead. The different numbering makes it clear which OS you're buying.
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you do realize the HTC X7501 don't have front camera right?
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Presumably the 7500 will be withdrawn when wm6 becomes available and sold as the 7501 instead. The different numbering makes it clear which OS you're buying.
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....and the x7500 will be officially sold in Europe while X7501 will officially be sold in the U.S. Contrary to some people's beliefs , I believe that cross-continent internet sales of the devices will not be so much to warrant the grouping of the 2 devices together so that the x7500 will not receive the WM6 upgrade or have it pulled, especially since it was specifically mentioned in the release.
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....and the x7500 will be officially sold in Europe while X7501 will officially be sold in the U.S. Contrary to some people's beliefs , I believe that cross-continent internet sales of the devices will not be so much to warrant the grouping of the 2 devices together so that the x7500 will not receive the WM6 upgrade or have it pulled, especially since it was specifically mentioned in the release.
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funny that they took the press release out, make you think have they make a mistake on the statement or what.
From what I remember of the press release it was not really talking about making WM6 available to those with HTC devices, but through mobile operators at the latters' discretion.
I'm reasonably pleased with my Advantage (over the Tytn) simply because the data connection works much more reliably.
WM6 would, however, be a bonus, as I use certificates for VPN authentication.
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From what I remember of the press release it was not really talking about making WM6 available to those with HTC devices, but through mobile operators at the latters' discretion.
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Actually, I think they stated for HTC branded phones, they would offer the upgrade, especially to those phones with more advanced messaging abilities.
When referring to 'at the mobile operators discretion', I believe they were referring to non-HTC branded phones, (like T-mobile Ameo, Cingular 8525 & 8125, verizon and sprint 6700, etc...) I firmly believe we will see it for the advantage this summer or sooner.
@Wu5262, you seem to be going back and forth on this. At first you stated repetitively, the upgrade would come. Then you changed your mind, and stated repetitively, it probably would not come, then, you seemed to believe it would when the press release came out. Now it seems you're begining to to think we may not see it afterall. I apoligize, if I'm off base here, but maybe you could ask this contact of yours at HTC, since there has already been a press release. Didn't I read somewhere, your brother worked for HTC as well? Let us know if you hear anything on the subject. Thanks.
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Actually, I think they stated for HTC branded phones, they would offer the upgrade, especially to those phones with more advanced messaging abilities.
When referring to 'at the mobile operators discretion', I believe they were referring to non-HTC branded phones, (like T-mobile Ameo, Cingular 8525 & 8125, verizon and sprint 6700, etc...) I firmly believe we will see it for the advantage this summer or sooner.
@Wu5262, you seem to be going back and forth on this. At first you stated repetitively, the upgrade would come. Then you changed your mind, and stated repetitively, it probably would not come, then, you seemed to believe it would when the press release came out. Now it seems you're begining to to think we may not see it afterall. I apoligize, if I'm off base here, but maybe you could ask this contact of yours at HTC, since there has already been a press release. Didn't I read somewhere, your brother worked for HTC as well? Let us know if you hear anything on the subject. Thanks.
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i wasn't going back and forth on this, i am 100% sure DOPOD U1000 will have WM6, not sure if Ameo will have it since i don't have contact in T-mobile. I haven't heard anything about HTC WM6 program, and my brother never heard of that as well, it's possible because he isn't in charge on this field. You are right, when the press release appear, i do believe it's true, why wouldn't you? you see it with your own eyes on the official HTC site, but then it's gone, so i start wondering why that is, as you can see, the rest of the press release is still there, so there must be a reason why it has been remove (or it could just be a technical fault).
Never the less, if the press release is up, you can be sure that it's true. But mean while, i will double check with my contact in HTC and see if they can give me a bit more details.
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....and the x7500 will be officially sold in Europe while X7501 will officially be sold in the U.S. Contrary to some people's beliefs , I believe that cross-continent internet sales of the devices will not be so much to warrant the grouping of the 2 devices together so that the x7500 will not receive the WM6 upgrade or have it pulled, especially since it was specifically mentioned in the release.
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I doubt this. Why should the US customer get an Advantage with WM6 and without front camera, and the European customer get's an Advantage with WM5 and front camera? I think later this year the 7500 will be pulled, and after the distributors have cleared their stock stock, replaced by the 7501.

UPDATED: Vodafone ARE pulling the handset from their product line!

Hi Guys,
This is all getting very interesting. Firstly let me state that i have an HD2 so this isnt one of those threads complaining about not getting one etc etc...
Mine has no issues whatsoever. The only problem i had was with the camera and this has been fixed completely by todays release of a camera update.
So... i have just read on the Vodafone forums that Vodafone will no longer be stocking the HD2!!!! This little snippet of info was posted by an official Vodafone rep.
I am now hearing similar stories from T-Mobile.
Is anyone here in know about whats going on? loads of rumours flying around at the moment....
http://forum.vodafone.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=44113
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http://forum.vodafone.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=44113
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nice one mate.... thats cleared that up!
shame though... i was up for a bit of drama!!
oh dear... seems its not over... the post above was written yesterday whereas the following was posted TODAY by vodafone:
Hi guys,
Just to clarify, Vodafone stores are no longer stocking the HD2.
There is limited stock online, however once this has gone, there won’t be any further coming into stock.
All the best,
Jenny
eForum Team
check this thread: http://forum.vodafone.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=44210
lol this happens every time a new handset comes out.
Operator A says 'we don't have any as it's been recalled/firmware update/whatever' so you don't go running off to operator B.
I'd be amazed if this is being withdrawn from any supplier.
I'll believe what HTC (and common sense) is saying though..
im on the edge of my seat waiting to see what happens next tbh...
We should see an update from Vodafone posted soon in the thread i linked above.
Ok... its official... they've pulled it!!!!!
Hello everyone,
As promised, here's our update:
We won't be re-stocking the HTC HD2 for general consumer sales once our current devices sell out. There's been a great deal of interest since we made the HTC HD2 available to buy in November and our initial supply quickly sold out. With subsequent deliveries of stock we've prioritised the fulfilment of back orders for the device.[/size] Given the wide and expanding range of smartphones available to Vodafone customers, including the iPhone in early 2010, we're confident that we continue to offer the broadest range of devices to our customers, more details of which can be found at http://shop.vodafone.co.uk/shop/mobile-phones/all-phones
Kind regards,
Tom
eForum Team
Official Vodafone thread with this announcement here:
http://forum.vodafone.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=43677
Praise the lord for o2
seems a very stupid decision on vodafone's part, especially as the official comment they seem to be giving to press is that there is no room for the HD2 amongst their current and future smartphone lineup. Surely they would have known what handsets they have and will be getting soon, they should never have sold the HD2 if they were going to stop selling it after a few weeks.
Glad I got mine when I did. But this is a terrible move by Vodafone. Why stop selling one of the best current smartphones on the market less than a month after you introduce it!
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Glad I got mine when I did. But this is a terrible move by Vodafone. Why stop selling one of the best current smartphones on the market less than a month after you introduce it!
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...because it's pretty much a crock for the average user? Can't send SMS without problems, quality of calls audio chronically bad, almost impossible to type on due to the crappy keyboard and Win Mob is generally a nightmare for all but the most techy of people??
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...because it's pretty much a crock for the average user? Can't send SMS without problems, quality of calls audio chronically bad, almost impossible to type on due to the crappy keyboard and Win Mob is generally a nightmare for all but the most techy of people??
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Just spoken to a guy at Vodafone over the phone about this. He said this was the first he had heard about it. He also told me, that compared to all other phones, the people who phoned about problems on HTC phones was a LOT smaller than the list of people who phoned with problems on other ones.
And sorry sunking101, but have you used the HD2 for a prolonged period of time. The keyboard only takes some getting used to, because of the capacitive screen. Windows Mobile is NOT a nightmare to use. This is just a lot of crap spouted by review sites, tech blogs and Android and iPhone OS users.
Sure, it has some flaws. But most of these can be fixed. And Windows Mobile gives a LOT more functionality, which I think is worth a bit of getting used to.
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seems a very stupid decision on vodafone's part, especially as the official comment they seem to be giving to press is that there is no room for the HD2 amongst their current and future smartphone lineup. Surely they would have known what handsets they have and will be getting soon, they should never have sold the HD2 if they were going to stop selling it after a few weeks.
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That's probably down to poor market research lol - they've obviously planned on the iphone selling like hot cakes when they get them and have totally overlooked the possibility of the HD2 flying off the shelves... my guess is that they have pre-ordered absolute tons of iphones that they'll have no chance of flogging if many of their customers get an HD2.
I have to say that I got one from them and that apart from the camera issue (obviously now fixed) I have none of the other major problems (touch wood it stays that way! ) - sms are fine, call quality is fine, keyboard is fine.
madindehead said:
Just spoken to a guy at Vodafone over the phone about this. He said this was the first he had heard about it. He also told me, that compared to all other phones, the people who phoned about problems on HTC phones was a LOT smaller than the list of people who phoned with problems on other ones.
And sorry sunking101, but have you used the HD2 for a prolonged period of time. The keyboard only takes some getting used to, because of the capacitive screen. Windows Mobile is NOT a nightmare to use. This is just a lot of crap spouted by review sites, tech blogs and Android and iPhone OS users.
Sure, it has some flaws. But most of these can be fixed. And Windows Mobile gives a LOT more functionality, which I think is worth a bit of getting used to.
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I've used it for around 2 weeks now and the keyboard is horrendous. There are certain features that I absolutely love - the screen for one, internet browsing, the decent You Tube app and internet sharing but the basic features of a mobile phone seem to have been forgotten by HTC. This phone is awful for calls (terribly loud even on the lowest volume setting and distorted, crackly audio), awful for texting (nasty keyboard, delays with SMS sending and receiving, plus occasionally texts going to the wrong person!!!) and the calendar is poor. The camera is ok in my book, as is the size of the device. It's just the basics it gets wrong and ultimately they're the most important for most users.
Fair enough mate. I personally, have had zero issues with call quality or texting. Sometimes a hard reset can fix those issues =p
The keyboard simply need getting used to.
To be honest I smell a rat here, I have had an HD2 now for about 4 week and it has been fine in fact it’s the best phone I have ever used. No problems at all.
I followed the HD2 for months on loads of forums and there seems to be a small but very vocal number of people going on about how god awful the phone is, how is has major problems and is a waste of time and money. Most of these posters are new to the forums that they post in and almost seem to have joined to have a go at the HD2. (sunking101 Join Date: Nov 2009)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=583618
Now I know it’s not perfect and will have faults but to be honest I have seem this so often that I am starting to think it’s a campaign to put people off the HD2. This story seem to me to be more of the same, I find it hard to believe that Vodafone would go the trouble to test and clear the phone for it network only to stock it for what two weeks?
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I've used it for around 2 weeks now and the keyboard is horrendous. There are certain features that I absolutely love - the screen for one, internet browsing, the decent You Tube app and internet sharing but the basic features of a mobile phone seem to have been forgotten by HTC. This phone is awful for calls (terribly loud even on the lowest volume setting and distorted, crackly audio), awful for texting (nasty keyboard, delays with SMS sending and receiving, plus occasionally texts going to the wrong person!!!) and the calendar is poor. The camera is ok in my book, as is the size of the device. It's just the basics it gets wrong and ultimately they're the most important for most users.
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Two weeks and we've all had to put up with your trolling every step of the way. Given that nobody else seems to be suffering from all the problems that you are it's pretty safe to assume that you are the problem, not the phone. I'd recommend that you replace your HD2 with something simple like a Motorola RAZR that you won't find too confusing.
Audio Oblivion said:
Ok... its official... they've pulled it!!!!!
Hello everyone,
As promised, here's our update:
We won't be re-stocking the HTC HD2 for general consumer sales once our current devices sell out. There's been a great deal of interest since we made the HTC HD2 available to buy in November and our initial supply quickly sold out. With subsequent deliveries of stock we've prioritised the fulfilment of back orders for the device.[/size] Given the wide and expanding range of smartphones available to Vodafone customers, including the iPhone in early 2010, we're confident that we continue to offer the broadest range of devices to our customers, more details of which can be found at http://shop.vodafone.co.uk/shop/mobile-phones/all-phones
Kind regards,
Tom
eForum Team
Official Vodafone thread with this announcement here:
http://forum.vodafone.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=43677
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Hmmm actually just noticed the bit that says "general consumer sales" so it could be that it's going to be for business sales only?
Isadora said:
That's probably down to poor market research lol - they've obviously planned on the iphone selling like hot cakes when they get them and have totally overlooked the possibility of the HD2 flying off the shelves... my guess is that they have pre-ordered absolute tons of iphones that they'll have no chance of flogging if many of their customers get an HD2.
I have to say that I got one from them and that apart from the camera issue (obviously now fixed) I have none of the other major problems (touch wood it stays that way! ) - sms are fine, call quality is fine, keyboard is fine.
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No doubt the iphone will sell quite well when it does come out on vodafone but in the store i work at for o2 we've had more people over the last couple of weeks ask about the hd2 then any other phone, so vodafone could lose quite a few customers who wanted the hd2 over an iphone as a result of this decision

Calling on all hd2 owners for a petition to htc

I believe that owners of the HD2 might have all seen the USA version spec of the HD2, obably air their feelings about the hardware upgrade, I just got mine less than a week ago, and then to read on the web about bugs and updates for the HD2 from HTC, but to read that the US t-mobile customer will have a higher spec is frustrating to every HD2 owners.
So I suggest we all write in to HTC direct, even if their excuse is it's exclusive to the "t-mobile USA" only as they requested for it. I have written in already, but am just one among thousands of htc HD2 owners out there, so the more customer request or support on this topic, they are likely to respond into doing something.
Higher Ram, Rom and a 16Gb of storage card, compare to what we received and most of us saved up, got ourselves tied in to an contract with an air time provider and also had to pay for the device.
Simply stating that let us all write in or email in requesting for either an exchange when the USA launch their model, or they provider us with a suitable alternative.
So join me HD2 OWNERS in making a petition to HTC about our concerns, that we all had to make some sort of sacrifice in getting the HD2, rather than any other competitive handset or device that is currently in the market.
Sorry For Going on so long and any bad grammar or repetition.
Sorry mate, but you've not got my personal backing on this. It's a different device - end of. It's not even on the market yet, and probably won't be for quite some time.
And also, I really have to question this statement...
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...we all had to make some sort of sacrifice in getting the HD2, rather than any other competitive handset or device that is currently in the market.
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It was in no way, shape, or form a sacrifice for me to get the HD2 over a competitor's handset. It was an easy choice, and the correct one for me. There is no handset in the world right now that suits me better than the one I've got.
I pretty much guarantee this thread turning into a flame war. I hope for your sake, and the sake of all those who do feel hard done by, that it doesn't.
Good luck
ok . sounds good .
BUT i dont think anything will happen , as far as receiving a new handset .
but i guess its worth a try .
Lol no wai, Im very happy with my hd2.
The usa hd2 will be beaten by another one in no time also.
Hi everybody
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Sorry mate, but you've not got my personal backing on this. It's a different device - end of. It's not even on the market yet, and probably won't be for quite some time.
I pretty much guarantee this thread turning into a flame war. I hope for your sake, and the sake of all those who do feel hard done by, that it doesn't.
Good luck
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Thanks for your reply, but to correct you, its not a different device, had got a responce from HTC uk branch that, it a demand put in by t-mobile Us network, not the Usa market, but the air provider.
All am stating that for the same device but higher spec's we deserve more than what we paid for, in the space of how many months of launching the HD2 device.
Whilst HTC have stated to a number of that T-Mobile requested higher specification, it seems that all HD2's have 576Mb of RAM, its just not being shown and that theres a chance that we've also got the 1Gb flash, but time will tell on that... so no I wont be doing it either...
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Thanks for your reply, but to correct you, its not a different device, had got a responce from HTC uk branch that, it a demand put in by t-mobile Us network, not the Usa market, but the air provider.
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I obviously disagree on what makes something a different device. Besides, even if they did offer me one of these as a replacement for my "old" HD2, it wouldn't work properly in my country, so it would actually be a worse handset for me to have.
Anyway, like I said, good luck.
I do not want to comment on the merits, or lack of, in mounting such an action (although I do feel strongly the futility of it), I do wish to point to the OP that his cross posting of the same message in other threads makes it look more like he is a troll or spammer. I suggest that he not do any more cross posting. Here is one example of cross posting in an unrelated thread, I am sure there are others.
Poor HTC
My company wanted to buy 60 htc hd2, on my suggestion.
After the news of the new model with 1GB of ROM and the unknown upgrade to the OS WM7, there was a stop to purchase.
At this point waiting a few days for the evolution of the market (tonight Apple's presentation).
I think that the mail of HTC is not necessary, the market is merciless.
Poor HTC, today again of -0.41% (international market).
I think it should nevertheless provide a review of business manager.
Blaise
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I do not want to comment on the merits, or lack of, in mounting such an action (although I do feel strongly the futility of it), I do wish to point to the OP that his cross posting of the same message in other threads makes it look more like he is a troll or spammer. I suggest that he not do any more cross posting.
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No its not a spam just an error on my part, and to be clear there is no malice intent with what am suggesting apart from hopefully informing HTC that if the Uk market should be offered either a higher spec for the uk market or an alternative good will gesture e.g 16Gb memory card, an extended battery e.t.c.
On the positive side HTc did get back to me stating the obvious of difference in spec of the same handset, but will be happy to forward my concerns to thee right department, now that doesn't mean my request has been granted but rather notice and something be DONE OR NOT but at least HEARD.
Thanks to everyone who responded, accepting both the ve+ and ne- feedback
I am happy with my HD2. More than happy infact.
It is blistering fast and I have modded, prodded and firmware changed it to death. loving the customization.
Mind you the 16GB card would be nice!
other than that I am perfectly happy
GG
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No its not a spam just an error on my part, and to be clear there is no malice intent with what am suggesting apart from hopefully informing HTC that if the Uk market should be offered either a higher spec for the uk market or an alternative good will gesture e.g 16Gb memory card, an extended battery e.t.c.
On the positive side HTc did get back to me stating the obvious of difference in spec of the same handset, but will be happy to forward my concerns to thee right department, now that doesn't mean my request has been granted but rather notice and something be DONE OR NOT but at least HEARD.
Thanks to everyone who responded, accepting both the ve+ and ne- feedback
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Okay, sorry for thinking you were spamming...........
As for 16GB memory card, how can you blame HTC for that? I can go around Taipei and see the HD2 sold with differing sizes of memory cards in different places. Or maybe you would like to pick a bone with Taiwan Mobile, who carries the phone with 16 GB of flash memory. It is the dealer or carrier who decides the size of the memory card, not HTC.
And, there is nothing new in HTC offering different variations on one phone. They started out as an OEM manufacturer. Check the XDA Developers Wiki on HTC's history that can be seen through the products they manufactured through the years. I do not remember in the past when a phone had an upgrade with another carrier that it created such irrational rage in some.
i can not say that i'm unhappy with my hd2, i got mine in october from the uk and it would indeed be nice if htc would give free upgrades but wait and see what newer roms will bring!
and as long as every hd2 will get the wm7 upgrade (if it comes) i'm not that much concerned
maybe if got an other device by then anyways *g*
nevertheless i will write htc about the issue cause i want to know what their response is!
Can we PLEASE close this thread?
There is no point to it. The US HD2 is different hardware and will never come to Europe, so there's absolutely no point in complaining that the European HD2 is different.
Those that complain here don't even understand that the US HD2 wouldn't work for them, anyway. Nobody has been "shafted", because everyone who bought the "old" HD2 would still have to buy the "old" HD2, because the "new" one just doesn't work here in Europe.
HTC had to make a different HD2 because of the TMO US 3G-Bands and maybe memory chips got cheaper, smaller or TMO wanted to have more, so they put more memory in it, beause they had to produce a different HD2 anyway. It's only natural that after half a year, better technology comes out. You can't buy any piece of tech and then complain that half a year later, something better is available.
The US HD2 is different hardware and there's absolutely no reason to complain. It will not work in Europe and HTC won't change the European version. Moreover, you can't expect anything you buy to still be the best after half a year. End of story.
It's true
It's true, but but at least call HD3 !!!!!!!!!!!! ( this is marketing )
bye
I took my 386 into PC world the other day and they did a straight swap for a quad core 4.8GHz machine. They also apoligised for the fact that my PC only had 256MB RAM and gave me 8GB.
there's already a huge thread. so why don't go there and cry? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=622734
so htc used us for beta testers and some of you are defending them?
no wonder they get away with it..
iphone sold 8.7 million devices in the christmas period..why did htc not try and get some of that market in the usa?
simple,they know the device was not working properly..
No, because it is no HD3.
And besides, we will probably get the HD3 half a year before the people in the US. That's only half a year later than their HD2. Does this give them the right to whine like little babies?
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so htc used us for beta testers and some of you are defending them?
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No, you whining little baby!
Our HD2 was produced half a year earlier. At that time, those chips probably simply weren't available or they were too expensive. The people in the US had to wait half a year longer than we did, now just let them enjoy their HD2. It's only natural that technology evolves with time.
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Can we PLEASE close this thread?
There is no point to it. The US HD2 is different hardware and will never come to Europe, so there's absolutely no point in complaining that the European HD2 is different.
Those that complain here don't even understand that the US HD2 wouldn't work for them, anyway. Nobody has been "shafted", because everyone who bought the "old" HD2 would still have to buy the "old" HD2, because the "new" one just doesn't work here in Europe.
HTC had to make a different HD2 because of the TMO US 3G-Bands and maybe memory chips got cheaper, smaller or TMO wanted to have more, so they put more memory in it, beause they had to produce a different HD2 anyway. It's only natural that after half a year, better technology comes out. You can't buy any piece of tech and then complain that half a year later, something better is available.
The US HD2 is different hardware and there's absolutely no reason to complain. It will not work in Europe and HTC won't change the European version. Moreover, you can't expect anything you buy to still be the best after half a year. End of story.
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sorry mate,if you don't want to discuss this and is very comfortable with your device you can always not click on threads that are discussing the topic..
don't come tell us to accept being testers for a device without agreeing to be such..

HD3 out in 9 days!

http://www.fudzilla.com/mobiles/mobiles/htc-hd3-out-in-9-days
That is a pretty bad 'article'.
The 'reporter' has worded it such that the reader has no idea which specs are for which device they mention.
Their 'sauce' [sic] mentions AMOLED displays, which in the current market, are a pain to get hold of, and HTC have already mentioned getting different types of screen (such as the Sony one a commenter has said) rather than use the AMOLED.
Well it's coming out anyway in the near future shame I still got another year on my contract.. The specs that have been mentioned seem very impressive I'm not sure about an even slighlty bigger screen it's big enough ain't it?
I bet my life that thats fake.
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http://www.fudzilla.com/mobiles/mobiles/htc-hd3-out-in-9-days
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From what little evidence there is out there - at least from what little can be treated as in any way reliable - 15th September MAY be the day of the official announcement, with the actual device available some time thereafter.
One 'sauce' reckons an O2 spreadsheet shows it being available from mid-October.
Being little more than a month away from release - perhaps - I might have thought there would be more noise about WPS7, or am I just missing it? If locked down like the bright boys say it will be, WPS7 may be a killer - nice device or not. Backward compatability with WM6.5 anyone?
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From what little evidence there is out there - at least from what little can be treated as in any way reliable - 15th September MAY be the day of the official announcement, with the actual device available some time thereafter.
One 'sauce' reckons an O2 spreadsheet shows it being available from mid-October.
Being little more than a month away from release - perhaps - I might have thought there would be more noise about WPS7, or am I just missing it? If locked down like the bright boys say it will be, WPS7 may be a killer - nice device or not. Backward compatability with WM6.5 anyone?
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I'm still in two minds about WPS7. I'm awaiting a play with one before a verdict
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http://www.fudzilla.com/mobiles/mobiles/htc-hd3-out-in-9-days
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I'm really not worried about the launch on the HD3 to be honest. It's likely to have initial problems and updates will inevitable. I'll hang on for the length of my contract and get one when it's up? I'm sure some clever cooks gonna run the os on an HD2 anywez?
Gustopher said:
From what little evidence there is out there - at least from what little can be treated as in any way reliable - 15th September MAY be the day of the official announcement, with the actual device available some time thereafter.
One 'sauce' reckons an O2 spreadsheet shows it being available from mid-October.
Being little more than a month away from release - perhaps - I might have thought there would be more noise about WPS7, or am I just missing it? If locked down like the bright boys say it will be, WPS7 may be a killer - nice device or not. Backward compatability with WM6.5 anyone?
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o2 sais that the hd2 was going to be mid oct last year, ended up being nearly end of novemeber so id take that with a very large pinch of salt
"according to our source from the queen vic pub" - lool. I call bull**** on this article
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"according to our source from the queen vic pub" - lool. I call bull**** on this article
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+1 I call shenanigans
Very Interesting, but a big but....
Looking at another article the specs seem resonable, except I do not believe the dual core bit (Two major steps in one phone?)
Otherwise it looks like a phine with peppersauce and a cream-vanillasauce on top to soften things.
I am worried about stability and performance (New OS, Bigger screen [375 Kpix vs 1000 Kpix], probably - as HTC-usual- no good graphic drivers, Dual-core?)
If as usual the graphics drivers suck again, screen will be slower as on HD, as there are almost 3 times the amount of pixels to manipulate while the proc only delivers about 1.4 times HD2 capacity.
Stability will be an issue as combining new Operating system, new techniques and new processors, probably new gui over WP7 rarely integrate without major issues.
Glad I just hava a proven good phone, I will let the new techniques cristallize to stability before I will buy one.
Fake Fake and Fake
All we have to do is wait and see for it to come out, just appreciate what u've got for now!
I think this is too good to be true. Just me.
I'm going to take a punt and offer an opinion - nothing more.
I think the announcement date is probably genuine - the timing feels about right - and I suspect that the specs aren't too far off the mark, although I certainly wouldn't treat them as gospel.
The timing of RTM is much trickier and may be the alarm bell that should convince me that this is fake. If it is to be a WPS7 device, an October release is rather early given that MS seem to be suggesting availability of WPS7 from December...last I looked anyway.
So I think there is a germ of truth submerged in a moderate quantity of bull excreta. Happy to be proved wrong either way though!
Wouldnt it make alot more business sence to drum up interest and market the phone pre-releases?
THis is not going to be released in such a short time frame just like hd2 release drag it out and you get more ppl interested
Feck off (and i have to write this to bulk up my reply)
Wp7 doesn't support this resolution
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You do realize that the way the OP titled the thread the release will always be nine days away don't you?
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You do realize that the way the OP titled the thread the release will always be nine days away don't you?
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unless they plan on editing it and counting down.........
by the time its released we'll be at about -34 days.............

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