I have a new AT&T Tilt and I've just installed a WIFI access point on my home/office LAN. My WIFI laptop was simple to configure as member of the Windows WORKGROUP. I've been struggling with my TILT. Some questions:
1) Is this supposed to work?
2) How do you assign the TILT to a workgroup?
3) I can see other workgroup PCs from the TILT, but I cannot see the TILT from other PCs. I am able to ping the TILT from a PC both by ip address and by device name (which happens to be "tilt").
Thanks for any help,
From what I understand you want to be able to browse phone files over wifi?
Yes. On any LAN PC, I would like to click on "My Network Places" and see the WM6-Phone listed with the other WORKGROUP computers. Then I would like to be to click on it to browse its directorys. And also drag & drop files to/from the phone. Thanks.
comet270 said:
Yes. On any LAN PC, I would like to click on "My Network Places" and see the WM6-Phone listed with the other WORKGROUP computers. Then I would like to be to click on it to browse its directorys. And also drag & drop files to/from the phone. Thanks.
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Not sure that's going to work unless you can find some other way of connecting other than by using Activesync
I understand the "Not sure that's going to work..." part. I don't follow the "unless you can find some other way...". I'm not using Activesync (at the moment) I wish to use a WIFI Access Point to join a LAN WorkGroup. I call that "some other way". It would seem that this desire would be widely shared by the wider community of users. It's a logical thing to want to do. There are enough parameters to tweek that given the proper expertise, I would guess that you could connect anything to anything else. I just don't have the expertise so I thought I would pose the question...
As far as i know, windows mobile doesn't include a smb (file) server. You have only a client. This means that you can browse your desktops' shares from the phone but not the contrary.
Windows CE 5.0 and 6.0 actually have a smb server but i think this is not shipped with the Mobile variant.
Unless you find some 3rd party software of course (i don't know of any but i've never really looked for it).
Bye
EDIT: if you want to be able to share files in the PPC with the desktops in the network, you can install a FTP server in your PPC. Then you can use a ftp client on the desktop to browse the PPC.
Try this one: http://www.mochasoft.dk/freeware/ftpd.htm
Nice solution. Thank you.
Seeing LAN shares with Tilt
I have the same goal (to share both ways between Tilt and LAN), but some additional issues.Have had the Tilt for only one day, so forgive me for any dumb questions!.
Can't even see the LAN shares from the tilt (nor the other way around). The phone indicates it is connected to our WiFI, and other LAN PCs can see another's share \\Titan for eg., but when I type //Titan into the Tilt browser it says it can't connect to that. Any suggestions why?
I wondered if its a syntax problem. Seems the Tilt does not have a reverse slash (\), but I would think forward slash (/) should work equally well.
In some circumstances, the phone invites logging into a VPN, but we dont have one established on our LAN. Would this facilitate sharing files? Does setting one up require running a server or is a simple Peer to Peer network sufficient? If so, how do you set one up?
Once I am sure I hve a Wifi connection I will try the ftp client solution.
Any suggestions welcomed.
Thanks
Trekker451
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I have a wireless router and have managed to set up my Home PC and my Wizard so i can browse shared folders on my PC from my wizard. My wife has recently aquired a wizard also and I am trying to set it up so we can share files between the two wizards by mapping/sharing folders on each device.
I have resco explorer on both devices but if I try to map a location on her device from within resco, i can see her device name, but i cant get access to a folder by typing "\\her_name\My Documents" for example.
Anyone got any idea's where i'm going wrong??
Is there a way to share certain files or will it just work on a PPC?
Obviously you are both in the house at the same time to do this.
Why not just do it directly?
I don't think the wizard has a samba server on it, it's only a client. you can share files fast over a PC or, if they're small, by bluetooth!
Hi, thanks for your responses, but i'm not trying to connect them directly to each other. I mean via the wireless router, the router is set up as a gateway.
It is possible to actually see each others devices in the "map network drive" window of resco explorer, but it tells me i "dont have permission or it cant find the network resource" if i try to map a folder on the pocket pc.
It would seem as though i'm just a step away from solving this but i'm not an expert at networking.
Sorry if i didn't explain myself properly in the first message. :wink:
EDIT: I know it could be done by bluetooth, but i was just wondering if it was possible
like i said, i don't think WM has an integrated Samba Server, only a client. you can only connect to network resources, not host files etc.
This topic reads so much better if you imagine it as being 2 actual wizards sharing nail files :lol:
Off topic I know but I couldn't resist :wink:
Sorry - I looked at it from a practical perspective, not as a challenge or theoretical project.
GaZ said:
This topic reads so much better if you imagine it as being 2 actual wizards sharing nail files :lol:
Off topic I know but I couldn't resist :wink:
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How stupid!
Clearly they were in prison - and their wives just sent a cake! :lol:
I have been searching for clarity thru islands of info in the forums as well as the net. Any help directing me would be sweet. I am trying to use my T-Mobile Wing HTC WM6 to control a computer on my home network. I have somewhat knowledge of having the server and client. Have read and installed programs. I want to be at McDonalds *or any wifi spot and log in to home computer. When I have a VNC server running it says the network ip address of 192.168.1.101 but I assume thats because its thru my network. I have went to what is my ip address.com and tried that with the port the server allows in the vnc viewer and had no luck. I think I might be too newb for such an advanced concept. I am somewhat computer savvy to alot of technical terms. If anyone could help it would be greatly appreciated. I use messengers if faster communication is necessary. Thanks in advance to any help or thoughts.
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I have been searching for clarity thru islands of info in the forums as well as the net. Any help directing me would be sweet. I am trying to use my T-Mobile Wing HTC WM6 to control a computer on my home network. I have somewhat knowledge of having the server and client. Have read and installed programs. I want to be at McDonalds *or any wifi spot and log in to home computer. When I have a VNC server running it says the network ip address of 192.168.1.101 but I assume thats because its thru my network. I have went to what is my ip address.com and tried that with the port the server allows in the vnc viewer and had no luck. I think I might be too newb for such an advanced concept. I am somewhat computer savvy to alot of technical terms. If anyone could help it would be greatly appreciated. I use messengers if faster communication is necessary. Thanks in advance to any help or thoughts.
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a few thoughts,
1. what version of windows are you running. (e.g Xp Home or vista )
as Vista home basic and premium will not accept a remote desktop connection without a 3rd party hack to make it work only business and ultimate support remote desktop
If on XP home be sure to set allowing of remote desktop sessions to be allowed under the system properties area.
2. do you have a password setup on the user account that you log into windows on if no remote desktop will not allow access.
3. when browsing from a 3rd party network ( e.g mcdonalds or over GPRS/HSDPA ) you browse to your external ip not the dark ip of 192.168.1.x i use dyndns.org so i can just browse to the dynamic domain ip which is my external ip of my home pc
4. since you mentioned a dark ip i can only also assume your using a router at home. this means you either use such as LogmeIn/Hamachi and browse to the home pc's Hamachi IP ( e.g 5.5.100.50 ) or you will have to set a port forward in your router to forward any requests from port 3389 to the local IP of the home pc, ( e.g 192.168.1.100 )
I use static ip's in my router at home to ensire that the port forward will always goto my home pc's internal ip address. My particular router from netgear allows to have the ip of a specific machine be assigned the same ip internally based on it's ethernet adapter MAC address. making no changes required on the pc itself other them standard DHCP.
hope this helps.
1. what version of windows are you running. (e.g Xp Home or vista )
as Vista home basic and premium will not accept a remote desktop connection without a 3rd party hack to make it work only business and ultimate support remote desktop
If on XP home be sure to set allowing of remote desktop sessions to be allowed under the system properties area.
1. I am using Windows XP Home. I have allowed Remote Access under the tab Systems Tab.
2. I only have a pw on the prog VNC server on the pc but no passwords for windows *should I? :| ... Then I try VNC Viewer the the Pocket PC *T-mobile Wing.
3. I am reading up on the dyndns.org site. I assume I need the free dns service for those with dynamic IP addresses. *i hope I have that.
4. I have Linksys Bef11s4... I believe I can set static ip's though its tricky for me. I am going to try for the pc I want to connect to. This networking stuff gets a little bit blurry for me. I understand that static means non-changing, therefore the pc to connect to in network will have same ip on restarts and things. I am familiar with the port forwarding options *do i need tcp and udp checked?... again any thoughts definately appreciated...
lastly, Do you have any particular progs you recommend for me to do this concept? I have a few installed, but not sure i need all.. I have pocketputty on pda and wm6 rdc... plus vncvier. On the PC i have VNC CLient and VNC Server *believe I only need server. Thank you for your time Cyberjak
1. Just go to http://www.logmein.com
2. Sign up. It's free.
3. Screw Remote Desktop and juggling internal vs. external IP addresses and DNS.
4. Use/enjoy...no work needed.
MJB
Logmein has like 6 choices... I am looking to remote access outside my network... also is this free? I see trials and stuff... thanks for help mjb
have the logme in installed on main and when i use pda it doesnt work...i installed cab and log in fine but when i go to remote the pc it takes my access code and then pops up with error message for menuPDA.html... i cleared history and cookies and tried to make sense of the forums... I am using the T-mobile Wing with WM6.... wierd... willing to try the other way if needed... i guess i could also try loggin thru a pc not home to the remote pc... i believe i saying this remote term correctly but i believe u understand. I am trying to use my PDA anywhere to control home pc.... thanks for help guys... i am willing to try whatever way works...
I've used Logmein on my MDA Pro, Ameo and now on my Vario 3.
You should first try to remote your PC while your sitting next to it. That way you can see any firewall pop ups that may be blocking you.
I have been trying when i am right next to it... I am using my WM6 to connect wi-fi to the internet thru my network.... the pc i wanna control is on my network...
It doesn't matter what network the PDA and PC are on. Logmein uses an internet connection.
yeah, tried a bunch of things to get logmein to work, and it always comes to the page of "403 Forbidden (0x5) menuPDA.html System error: Access is denied. (5)"
checked their forrums too...
guessing i should try going back to client/server manual entry... either way, any advice from you guys much appreciated.... It seems WM6 are known for incompatibility issues with RDC situations.... hoping not the case but...thanks again guys
got logmein working nicely, thank you for the help guys...
Gooer Remote Desktop Service
I am using Gooer Remote Desktop Service(http://www.gooer.com) and it let me access my home PC using laptop or mobile phone.
remote desktop only works, as far as I know, on XP pro & Vista
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=357009
Does anybody how i could access my Pocket PC from my PC over the network. I could do it vice versa through Resco but i can't do Pocket PC from PC nor Pocket PC to Pocket PC. Any ideas? I would like it to happen just how the PC does it, with no major add-ons. I don't want to have to deal with VNC, FTP, etc. So if you know, i'd really like to know the answer. Thanks
I was looking for the same thing and haven't been able to find anything.
(I know you said u didn't want to use FTP)
So far the only thing I have been able to find for this is an FTP solution.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=351882
I can access the local network from the phone, but apparently there is no SMB server available for Wm6
Why can't you just use the explorer function of ActiveSync?
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Why can't you just use the explorer function of ActiveSync?
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There are multiple reasons for wanting to access your device from the network. I myself am using multiple machines and would like to drag and drop files from my phone without having to get a bluetooth dongle and install active sync on every one of those machines.
If anyone has setup a smb server for wm6 i'd love to know, also if anyone has any other recommendations for a good ftp server that mocha one doesn't run in the background properly and the bottom toolbar for it stays on my today screen.
Not exactly what you're after, but I've seen a web server for WinMo around somewhere...
Or maybe something along the lines of a VNC client?
Yea, there are reasons for the networking thing. I have several devices on the network and i would life to get a NAS device. I don't want to go to the trouble of setting up ftp/vnc. Mapping the device using Resco works GREAT. For some reason, my laptop can't find my Tilt when i search for devices on the network and i was thinking maybe it was because it didn't have the same workgroup name?
useful for sure
Assuming you're on the LAN with WiFi, what happens when you port-scan your device's IP?
Not sure what you mean by port-scan but when i go to file explorer on my laptop and type \\ip of tilt, it gives me some error. I'm really trying to look into this and most advice is using vnc and another program which i don't want.
kareem9nba said:
Not sure what you mean by port-scan but when i go to file explorer on my laptop and type \\ip of tilt, it gives me some error. I'm really trying to look into this and most advice is using vnc and another program which i don't want.
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I don't think you're understanding when i said wm6 doesn't have a SMB server running.
Basically, it isn't running the microsoft networking services to access the file shares. You wont get it to work unless you get some sort of SMB daemon(server) for the phone, which to my knowledge doesn't exist.
look up SMB in wikipedia and u will understand what im talking about.
If using Resco to map shares, will you be able to play media (music, movies) over the wlan then, or will it not be fast enough?
I'm assuming that mediaplayer in wm6 won't have a problem playing from shares...or am I wrong?
/Pilot1
I kind of got this resolved. Not the way i really wanted it, but now i use Pocket Controller Enterprise and it does this. Really nice features, i could connect to anybody in the world, just need their host name.
Doesn't the desktop version of total commander do this? The only problem is the desktop version isn't free...
Hi,
Is it possible for my WM6.1 device to join my LAN Workgroup such that I can view the files on my PPC from my desktop computer and drag and drop files over to the PPC via WIFI? Kind of like using the PPC as a NAS device?
Thanks in advance
Rob
Yes and No
To my knowledge no. i believe that microsoft stopped allowing that feature within active sync quite awhile ago, but what i have managed to do is to create a computer to computer network (ad-hoc) where my PDA was the access point and my laptop could then connect to that.
I could transfer files using explorer on my phone to access my network drives on the laptop, then copy and paste from there, but i could not find my phone on the laptop due to it not having shared folders to my knowledge.
The things i would like to achieve is shared internet over wifi by using the phone as an access point and to figure out how to access files on phone on the laptop. Not the other way round.
When i created this computer to computer network i thought that if i had 3G connected it would automatically pick up the connection on the laptop but i was wrong.
Which means i am no expert on the matter, but im sure there is a way
the same rules goes for pda's on the same net as for other computers
if they got the correct rights to access shared dirs
it can access them and map them if one use programs like total commander
and know a bit about network in generals not really that user friendly i guess
It can be done, I use a program called WMFTP. Google it.
Yea i get some of it
Rudegar said:
the same rules goes for pda's on the same net as for other computers
if they got the correct rights to access shared dirs
it can access them and map them if one use programs like total commander
and know a bit about network in generals not really that user friendly i guess
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Some of it i get but others bits i dont. Like is it possible to set sharing rights to directory's on the phone? If that is possible great.
Also how do you find out the device name or would you have to use the ip address for mapping those directory's?
I have a touch diamond and would love to map the internal storage on my network, but have failed at that.
Still not figured how to share the internet connection of the phone over wifi either
Hello,
I'd like to be able to connect from my PC to my PPC using wi-fi, nit USB/ActiveSync. This is part of an effort to establish connection between all networked computers - one PC and two PPC, including the possibility to connect from one PPC to the other. I am not sure how much of this is possible, and will appreciate advice.
Currently I have:
DHCP enabled wi-fi router and assigned static IPs to both PPCs, e.g. 192.168.2.100. I try to access this via FileZilla by typing the IP or the host name (WM_Cheeseus). I never get beyond:
"Connection established, waiting for welcome message...
Error: Could not connect to server".
I can ping the device, but I cannot see it from Windows Explorer's Network Places (only see other PCs, not the PPCs).
From the device, I can ping the PC (192.168.2.102) but I get "request timed out" when trying to ping the second device, 192.168.2.109.
I think I am looking for the WM version of "sharing" my PPC's folders on the network.
So, what settings should I be looking for? Thanks!
don't think ppc support smb server role
you can put a ftp on it and do it that way
Rudegar said:
don't think ppc support smb server role
you can put a ftp on it and do it that way
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Um... what do you mean by "put a ftp on it"? Will Total Commander's FTP/LAN plugins do or do I need something else? I have tried to connect to the other PPC via TCMD's LAN plugin but I can't.
no total commander got a ftp client not a server
http://www.google.dk/search?source=...le-søgning&meta=lr=&aq=f&oq=pocketpc+ftp+serv
here are some
Thank you!
Mocha FTP did the job - as far as connecting to the PPC from the PC. Unfortunately, it is still not possible to connect between the two PPCs by starting Mocha FTP on one and typing its IP into the other one's browser.