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is it possible to..

remote control ma ppc with ma pc via gprs??? how??!??

is there no way to control my pc from my ppc!??!!?
something like remote desktop(windows have..) ??

Most remote control software works using a regular network connection through active sync.
This should thus be possible with pretty much any nework connection, including gprs. Basically just dial gprs, get your phone's ip address, and use that for remote control. I think. In theory. But not fast.
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Hang on. what are you asking? control you PPC from your PC or vice versa.
Either way, look into VNC.
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no, i just want to control my pc From my ppc. can terminal services in programs do something for that??
another program?

JuNiOr_Gr said:
no, i just want to control my pc From my ppc. can terminal services in programs do something for that??
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I would have thought so.
You'll need XP pro for the remote desktop server to be built in though. XP home does not have it.
Failing that, VNC, look here: http://www.cs.utah.edu/~midgley/wince/vnc.html

You can do this easily via GPRS. Simply connect to the internet via GPRS, and then start up Terminal Services Client on the ppc, insert the ip address of your pc, and step through the authentication dialogue. Of course you will have to make sure that your pc (running WinXP) has World Wide Web Services installed, so as to enable Remote Desktop via the internet.
Hope this helps.

i tried via terminal services , add my ip(of the pc) open the port from router, from my coputer click the allow other people to connect to this pc(also there i added ppc's ip) but could connect. i got an error from ppc.
i am using win xp pro .
i there another application like terminal services ??

VNC?
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vijay555 said:
VNC?
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couldnt download it
can u tell me which file? that one which sais PocketPC win2003?
i download that and a error came out

Did you enter your PCs IP address as seen on the PC, or did you enter the external internet IP? They are 2 different numbers, and regardless of whether you have ports open or not you wont be able to connect directly to the PCs network IP address.
If you're using an ADSL router then go to the configuration or settings page and find out what your internet IP is.

Re VNC
I've used this one quite well:
http://www.parystec.demon.co.uk/pt_vnc2.htm
But there are other free versions I imagine.
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@JuNiOr_Gr
Which Port did you open for Terminal Services?
Did you then connect to you Internet IP from your PPC or to your local IP?
If you use VNC you have to open the VNC Port (default 5900).
Ist there a software firewall (e.g. XP Firewall) installed on your PC?

For terminal services to work you must have a password set on your XP account. Otherwise it should work with port 3389 forwarded. I use it fine from my Magician over GPRS.
Only thing is that it's a shame you don't seem to be able to turn off desktop background, themes etc that you can from the Desktop version of Terminal Services Client as this would improve speed.

vpn compatible apps

the remote desktop client on my vario ii connects to my work desktop perfectly using our office vpn but it is rubbish! the screen doesn't scale well at all or provide any kind of zoom out function.
I have a vnc client which performs much better but it won't connect over the vpn it only works when connected directly to the office network.
forwarding ports is out of the question. so my question is this.
is there a vnc client for pocket pc which will work over vpn or is there a way to make the remote desktop client less rubbish
also are there any apps out there that will let me browse my work network over the vpn. resco doesn't seem to be able to do it even the ftp client won't work.
am I missing something about vpn connections as it seems the only two apps that work over one are activesync and the remote desktop client.

Did you tried to acces domain controler throught the VPN? If yes it is normal that it doesn't work; Domain controler require security enhancement in auth that pocket devices cannot deliver yet. The only way I know is to reduce the security enhancement by using the GPO on the concerned servers; but this is far of being a clean fix.

Just trying to use connect to a vnc server on my workstation. btw our domain controller is the exchange server and active sync works fine

Active sync & exchange do not use the integrate authentification & kerberos; it uses a plain text auth (crypted with the SSL certs), that's why it works. Even if you are on the LAN you will not be able to access your domain's controller shares because of security enhancement.
This is far from solving your issue; but I just wanted to make it clear. Concerning your issue I can't help you at the moment, I still didnt tried the VPN & advanced networking.
btw, good luck

I have set up a vpn on my home computer, no domain, and can't access shares or a vnc server on that either.

Hi Stemill, I seen your other post about the vpn issues with Resco also, I have heard in the past about vpn issues using the [email protected], are you using [email protected] or [email protected]?
I use the terminal/remote client on a daily basis, and it does blow, vj on the board here has made an app that allows fullscreen with the terminal client, and theres a Mocha remote desktop client that supports scaling but no fullscreen, both of which have their own quirks. The scaling makes the text impossible to read when its even at 25%
I have been working on connecting to the remote desktop on mac with vnc, and I've gotten as far as an error on authentification, so I know its possible outside of a home network, but I don't have a clue about buisness situations..exchange or vpn's.
I not even 100% positive about the wap issue, I just seem to remember reading something about it in the past.
Sorry I wasn't of much help, also I kind of have a question for you, I see you mention activesync, you're not activesyncing over an internet connection are you?, I'm working on installing apps that I don't have a .cab for over an internet connection, but the best route I had figured out was to install to a ftp share and then grab the .cab from there with Resco.
Best of luck to you.

Hi there.
I'm on t-mob in the uk. They have a 3g network with full internet access so i'm not using wap at all.
Thanks for the tips about the remote client tweaks. Do you have a link?
I'm using activesync to connect to my works exchange server to sync email and calendar. Pretty sure its not possible to sync over the air to a pc without using exchange. You certainly won't be able to grab remote files via activesync.
If we could figure out how to get apps to work over vpn you could set one up on your pc and (theoretically at least) browse its contents using resco without having to bother with ftp.
If it's not possible to get stuff working over the vpn then you've probably found the best solution already. use ftp or setup a webserver on your pc and host the cab files on that. pocket ie seems to let you install cab files directly from a link.
btw which vnc client are you using on your phone?

Hi, I forget a lot of the time that people here have so many different carriers, sorry.
Here's the link to vj's terminal addon app
http://www.vijay555.com/?Releases:VJFullscreenTSC
And here's the link to the Mocha remote client app
http://www.mochasoft.dk/rd.htm
I used .Net vnc when I was able to get the authentification error
http://www.freewareppc.com/docs/netvncviewer.shtml
I think my problem on the authentification was with the apple remote desktop itself, I read about somethin in the authentification being non standard and sometimes the free vnc viewers don't work..but that was also pc to pc related, the same makers of the Mocha remote desktop also make a vnc client..that was gonna be my next try, I just haven't gotten there yet.
I inistally set up my pc to be able to remote to it from my phone and access aol chatrooms..well mainly one I have hung out in for years, then realized if I set up a server, I could install apps that I couldn't find in .cab form over the net with it, I used to have windows server 2003 set up with IIS(webserver) and the streaming media services, I'm wondering now if the windows streaming media really works with the pocket windows media, and if I could even use it with my gprs/edge connection, I'm still waiting on 3G, suprisingly the remote desktop isn't too bad on gprs/edge.
I'm currently waiting to get a new hard drive before I can really get to work, I'm testing on an old messed up xp install, and half the time I can't even access "my computer" or open folders without it crashin explorer.

networking, pinging and remote desktop? can u help?

hello all,
gots me a problem . im going to japan november, want to remote desktop back to here when necessary and be able to access a hdd here for dumping pictures. i have a lan here, wifi, it has a connection surfs the net etc.
it has an ip address from my router. is there a program or command that will get me the kind of command functionality of a dos/command prompt? ping, ipconfig, etc?
then if i can get them to talk, what steps do i need to take to remote in. do i need software? i enabled remote here, setup a user (vista BTW).
i cant access here from the laptop with xp either that one can ping. its also wifi currently. im obviously missing something and would appreciate any help, or web site links etc to show me what ive missed.
thanks in advance.

hi, a lot of admin utilities is in program called vxUtil. try to find it, if you are interrested. this is list of few features -
DNS Audit
DNS Lookup
Finger
Get HTML
Info
IP Subnet Calculator
Password Generator
Ping
Ping Sweep
Port Scanner
Quote
Time Service
Trace Route
Wake On LAN - magic packet
Whois
or look at HERE
so this was for PDA, and this is for full connection via SSH VPN encrypted connection. I work for Infineon/Qimonda company, and there is strict security policy in here. So we have not permitted to ping, or created FTP connection with outside and many other services (like sending files through ICQ and etc.). There is one way, use your own SSH tunell ;-) on my home PC I have installed WinSSHD Bitvise server liseninng on port 443 (which cannot be blocked, because all our lotus notes databases is secured with HTPPS) and from work I can connect easily to home. Then is easy to create FTP connection, or terminal, or full GUI terminal (mstsc.exe e.g.) Link to this server (not free) and also to very good client (free) is HERE
I also have few routers connected to stable IP´s adress, which also have VPN features. Then is easy for me to connect to my home lan from everywhere.

thanks so much, i knew someone would point me the right way.
since last post, i have managed to remote desktop from my phone on the LAN just using built in remote desktop. tomorrow i will attempt an internet connection probably not configured something yet!
im checking out those web pages now. thanks again

i've looked everywhere, seriously. -remote desktop

any detailed how to guide?, i can do it, i'm fairly tech savvy, so i just need to kneed out a few things. maybe if you caould start from the beginning and i can see where i went wrong.
logmein.com works, but i want something more personal, just bewtween the computer and my phone. somerthing that looks good and scales full screen preferably.
please guys?, point me in the right direction.. all the posts just keep saying to search and there's lots of info, but there's no step by step guide.
thanks guys!

ok i got it going.
first go to the computer you want to connect to and go to control panel / system
click on remote, enable remote users
go to start menu, run. type cmd
in command write "ipconfig /all"
take note of your ip address
on your phone go to remote desktop,
computer = your ip address
username = (go to startmenu, control panel, user accounts) use one of those names.
password = blank unless you have a password.
domain = i left blank.
connect full color unless it doesnt work for you
if you can connect and you get a password error
type the error you get inot google and you should get a fix as your first link.
try that.
blam, remote desktop, it's awesome.

Nice how-to...
this is the most succinct tutorial on how to do this that I've seen. I'm still having trouble, though. I get the "Cannot connect. Likely reason are: 1 the remote comupter is not set up for this. 2. Reached the maximum number of connections. 3. A network error occurred while connecting."
I have set up the XP PC, & taken down all firewalls. I only have one user account and it has a password. I've even tried using Hamachi with one of their VPN ip addresses (awesome and free for pc2pc). I 've combed trhough my router settings too, and tried to clear everything there, too. I can RD from an XP laptop, so ti seems to be something on the unit, to me. I've also setup file sharing w/ Total Commander (it's served my purposes amply).
I really have googled & googled & googled. If anyone has any idea what is going on, I'd be grateful for some ideas.

Have you enabled the RDP on the host computer?
Right click my computer
Properties
Remote
Then enable allow user to connect remotely.

Will only work on XP Pro, or Vista if you choose to allow older clients which they scaremonger you against by saying it's less secure.

Danke!
I've been scared away from Vista for the usual "new" OS reasons, but perhaps it's getting to be time for me to haul my old conservative back-end into the modern world.
Thanks so much for taking the time!
(and to Biohead: yes, I followed the instructions I lauded so vehemently.... ???)

you're running vista?
and you haven't been able to connect still, right?
sorry i could walk you through xp, but man vista sucks, i wouldn't touch it with a 10 foot pole.

i'm setting up remote desktop on my iphone
hahaha totally referred to this guide

and it sucks, so i'm sticking with vnc
man, i miss my exec/universal

dutchschultz said:
any detailed how to guide?, i can do it, i'm fairly tech savvy, so i just need to kneed out a few things. maybe if you caould start from the beginning and i can see where i went wrong.
logmein.com works, but i want something more personal, just bewtween the computer and my phone. somerthing that looks good and scales full screen preferably.
please guys?, point me in the right direction.. all the posts just keep saying to search and there's lots of info, but there's no step by step guide.
thanks guys!
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Hope this helps
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=366312
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=294524

orb3000 said:
Hope this helps
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=366312
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=294524
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you, my friend, are awesome

A possible solution for those of us on T-Mobile's standard web n walk
Sorry to resurrect this thread, but I thought I'd post my experiences here in case anyone else (like me) searches for a solution to enabling RDP on T-Mobile (UK at least).
I was having the same problem with remote desktop, it saying that the server was not available. I phoned up T-Mobile's helpdesk as recommended here and after getting past first line support (who didn't know what remote desktop was, and tried sending new connection settings to my phone to resolve the issue) I got through to someone who knew what they were talking about. Turns out that I'm on T-Mobile's "basic" or "handset-only" web-n-walk package, and it's not possible to use RDP on this. I assume they block the relevant ports. They told me that I could pay an extra fiver a month to upgrade to a version of web-n-walk which can handle RDP.
Well I told them I would think about it, but instead tried to find a way around it as the one or two times I need to use RDP are certainly not worth a fiver a month. My solution is probably only suitable for the more techy of us, but without much work and with no prior experience I managed to set up a SSH tunnel using FreeSSHd as a server running on my windows server (although a normal windows box should work fine - http://www.freesshd.com/) and zaTunnel as a client on my phone (http://www.zatelnet.com/zatunnel/main.php). Both programs are free.
Basically my phone takes all RDP connections and tunnels them over SSH to my windows server, which then turns them back into RDP connections. T-Mobile have no idea I'm using RDP, and if they block the SSH port in the future I can always change FreeSSHd to run on port 80 (for web). This will also work for other protocols T-Mobile might be blocking (FTP springs to mind).
Just thought I'd post this in case anyone was in my situation of needing RDP on their standard web'n'walk.
Edit Sorry posted this in the wrong thread! Will leave this post up however just in case someone finds it useful

echolock
Many thanks for the above have been searching everywhere for a fix to this. I am the same as you T Mobile (UK) and can't connect.
Could you give some additional advice as how you got the RDP to work.
For the record I can connect by Wi-Fi and by using a PAYG sim from a different carrier. However, I am on a contract with T Mobile and don't want to carry a different sim just to use the RDP.
I have installed both apps. I can make a connection from zaTunnel on Port SSH:24 to the freeSSHD server (SSH - listening on port 24). Other than adding a User and changing the default port to 24 there are no other changes I have made in freeSSHD.
Under the connections tab in zaTunnel I have left Network: Automatic with the other settings relevant to make a connection.
Under the ports tab of zaTunnel I have
LP> 3389,
IP/URL . IP of the desktop I want to connect to of 192.168.1.10
>RP 3389
When I the start the Remote Desktop app under my Windows Mobile 6.1 it indicates connecting the fails as before.
Also forgot to mention freeSSHD is running on the desktop I want to connect to.

Sure thing.
When you run Remote Desktop under Windows Mobile, make sure you connect to "localhost" NOT to the IP of the desktop you want to connect to.
Your other settings seem correct to me.
To attempt to explain a little, basically what happens is as follows. For simplicity's sake I will have three machines, your phone, your SSH server and your RDP server (although the latter two can be the same).
On your phone:
1) Remote Desktop connects to localhost on port 3389.
2) zaTunnel is listening on localhost on port 3389. It echos all commands sent to this port out on port 22 over your cellular connection to your SSH server, also providing details of your RDP server and port.
On your SSH server:
3) FreeSSHd receives the commands sent over port 22 and is told by zaTunnel to convert them to commands sent to your RDP server using port 3389.
On your RDP server:
4) Remote Desktop receives a normal RDP request over the normal port from your SSH server.
5) Responses are sent to your SSH server.
On your SSH server:
6) FreeSSHd receives the RDP responses, and sends them back to your phone over port 22.
On your phone:
7) zaTunnel converts the commands sent over port 22 back into RDP commands sent over port 3389.
8) Remote desktop receives a response from zaTunnel and thinks it's connected directly to an RDP server on localhost. In actuality it's connected to your RDP server using an SSH tunnel provided by zaTunnel and FreeSSHd.
Hope this makes sense, I'm not very good at explaining this!

Ah found another problem. The IP of your desktop you say is 192.168.1.10 - this is a local IP address so will only work on your local network.
Go to a website like http://whatismyipaddress.com/ from the machine you run SSHd on to find out what your current "external" IP address is. Bear in mind that most home broadband connections have a "dynamic" address which is allocated to you and might change from time to time - you can always use something like http://www.dyndns.com/services/dns/dyndns/ to set yourself up with a static hostname, and run a program on your machine which updates your hostname with the correct IP address every time it changes. Some routers have this functionality built in.

Thanks for the quick response and explanation.
Between posting and reading your reply I had worked out the RDP app needs the localhost or the IP 127.0.0.1.
I had come back here to post, so others would know in future.
Your other point you raised about the desktop IP. I have used this only in the ports tab on zaTunnel. The connection tab has a proper mydomainname.com address. (Provides email and a webmail interface).
Anyway, can connect now and thank you again in solving this for me. (If your in Leeds I will buy you a beer).

Ah yeah the 192.* address would work on the ports tab, fair enough. Might be worth pointing out if others read this that this is only the case if the machine you're trying to RDP to is on the same local network (or the same machine) as the machine you have FreeSSHd running on.
But good to hear you got it working Now hopefully T-Mobile won't cotton-on and decide to block port 22 too...

Remote desktop to XP desktop from Windows mobile

Hi Guys,
I have had a search for this question and I can't seem to find anything.
I was wondering if someone could point me in the right direction to get remote desktop to my home PC from my mobile (Xperia) whilst away from home, I have remote desktop working fine from within my network. If anyone could advise any websites to look or has any guidance on pitfalls etc that would be much appriciated
Thanks
Reb

Microsofts version
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/networking/expert/northrup_03may16.mspx
there are other ways.. which require signing up for a dns service that allows you to have static ip etc..

do you have it working outside your network? as in ex: use a laptop from an outside connection to connect to your desktop on your own network? if not, heres what u gotta do: im not gonna be too specific cause u can probably google it for plenty of guides that will be more specific than i can ever be
forward the remote desktop port on your router to your desktop
set up dynamic dns on your router (best company is probably DynDns.org)
have remote desktop software installed on your mobile device
type in your dyndns address and viola.
good luck

New Remote Desktop client from WM6.1
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2437139
Have a look at the above link to rdp from your mobile to windows client pc / server