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Setting up VNC or Remote Desktop

I've set up LogMeIn, but it's left me dissatisfied. I don't like the fact that it's website based, and it's a little slow for my tastes.
I've attempted VNC and Remote Desktop but, sadly, it's a little over my head. I'm by no means a noobie, but I've never dabbled in remote desktop type work before.
Is there a simple tutorial for setting up VNC or Remote Desktop clients for the Wizard? I could really use one. I've been trying to search for it for a few days, and I turned up absolute zilch.
Thanks!

both VNC and remote desktop would need to be enabled on your workstation / server / computer and make sure that either the required ports for VNC (port 5900+) and Remote Desktop Connection (port 3389) and open your firewall or the windows firewall is turned off.
if you are trying to use VNC / RDP, using your GPRS/EDGE connection then there's more tweaking which needs to be done ... this would entail you to go to your router/firewall and open ports 5900 (VNC) and 3389 (Terminal Services / Remote Desktop Connection) and point these ports to the right IP Address (which would be the IP address of your workstation).
if you have any questions about remote access just email me back ... i use my XDA Exec, Qtek 8500 and all the other PDA's i have to access my network at the office as well as at my clients all the time ... both through VNC and through Remote Desktop Connection ....

what program do you need on the wizard to do remote desktop?
right now i can remote desktop to my work computer from my laptop at home. is it similar? thank you.

There should be a remote desktop client already installed on your Wizard. Look in the Programs folder for "Terminal Services Client". It works pretty much the same as it does on big Windows.

As dumb as this is, I really need a step by step to help me out on this subject.
I'm unsure what is needed to get the Remote Desktop Client working. I have XP Pro. I have a "Remote" section under my home computers system properties. However, the one tutorial I could find asked me to go into Add/Remove Windows Devices and apply some sort of setting there. Upon doing so, I was asked to insert my Windows XP CD which . . . I don't have.
If I don't need that CD, I am open to doing either Remote Desktop or VNC. Whichever is preferable, I guess. I don't know which is more full-featured, which one is quicker, etc.
So I need help getting started. What do I do?

Hey Dr.Other
Okay here is a step by step to enable remote desktop on your computer ( much better then VNC in my book but I am sure others may disagree..so in the end its personal prefrence...I just like RD (remote desktop) better cause I can stream music if I wanted and its also encrypted (I think I read that some where) any way here it is for remote desktop.
Guessing you are useing Windows XP Pro
Right Click on MY COMPUTER ( on your desktop)
From the menu that opens up Click (Left click) on PROPERTIES
You will see a few tabs in a window called System Properties
Click on the REMOTEtab
Check the Box under the Remote desktop area that say ALL USEERS TO CONNECT REMOTELY TO THIS COMPUTER (its not in caps)
Next click on Select Remote User and click ADD
TYpe in the users name (what ever name you use to login with)
Hit Okay till your back to your desktop
Phone:
Start\Programs\Terminal services Client
under servers type in the IP address of your computer ( Hint try it locally 1st if you have wifi in your house and then click connect) its a bit difficult to naviagate and the colors are not the best ( which leads me toa question ...look at the bottem for the Q ) but it will do...I have hcked email looked at my fav places for a book name I had bookmarked but forgot etc. its really cumbersome but in teh end it may get the job done. Though Fair warning your icons and stuff will be bunched up on your desktop computer once you RD from your Phone
RD to your phone..... What ? can you remote desktop to your phone ?
I think so...if you enable terminal service port on the device you maybe able to connect to it from your computer ...but I am still trying to figure that one out
Question for every one: IS it possible to get better colors when connecting to your home computer via terminal services on your phone ? ...they look like 256 colors (eww)

geekserver said:
Question for every one: IS it possible to get better colors when connecting to your home computer via terminal services on your phone ? ...they look like 256 colors (eww)
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Even if you could it would slow the process down so much it wouldnt be worth it. I wouldnt even have a background on as it slows to a crawl.

vpn compatible apps

the remote desktop client on my vario ii connects to my work desktop perfectly using our office vpn but it is rubbish! the screen doesn't scale well at all or provide any kind of zoom out function.
I have a vnc client which performs much better but it won't connect over the vpn it only works when connected directly to the office network.
forwarding ports is out of the question. so my question is this.
is there a vnc client for pocket pc which will work over vpn or is there a way to make the remote desktop client less rubbish
also are there any apps out there that will let me browse my work network over the vpn. resco doesn't seem to be able to do it even the ftp client won't work.
am I missing something about vpn connections as it seems the only two apps that work over one are activesync and the remote desktop client.

Did you tried to acces domain controler throught the VPN? If yes it is normal that it doesn't work; Domain controler require security enhancement in auth that pocket devices cannot deliver yet. The only way I know is to reduce the security enhancement by using the GPO on the concerned servers; but this is far of being a clean fix.

Just trying to use connect to a vnc server on my workstation. btw our domain controller is the exchange server and active sync works fine

Active sync & exchange do not use the integrate authentification & kerberos; it uses a plain text auth (crypted with the SSL certs), that's why it works. Even if you are on the LAN you will not be able to access your domain's controller shares because of security enhancement.
This is far from solving your issue; but I just wanted to make it clear. Concerning your issue I can't help you at the moment, I still didnt tried the VPN & advanced networking.
btw, good luck

I have set up a vpn on my home computer, no domain, and can't access shares or a vnc server on that either.

Hi Stemill, I seen your other post about the vpn issues with Resco also, I have heard in the past about vpn issues using the [email protected], are you using [email protected] or [email protected]?
I use the terminal/remote client on a daily basis, and it does blow, vj on the board here has made an app that allows fullscreen with the terminal client, and theres a Mocha remote desktop client that supports scaling but no fullscreen, both of which have their own quirks. The scaling makes the text impossible to read when its even at 25%
I have been working on connecting to the remote desktop on mac with vnc, and I've gotten as far as an error on authentification, so I know its possible outside of a home network, but I don't have a clue about buisness situations..exchange or vpn's.
I not even 100% positive about the wap issue, I just seem to remember reading something about it in the past.
Sorry I wasn't of much help, also I kind of have a question for you, I see you mention activesync, you're not activesyncing over an internet connection are you?, I'm working on installing apps that I don't have a .cab for over an internet connection, but the best route I had figured out was to install to a ftp share and then grab the .cab from there with Resco.
Best of luck to you.

Hi there.
I'm on t-mob in the uk. They have a 3g network with full internet access so i'm not using wap at all.
Thanks for the tips about the remote client tweaks. Do you have a link?
I'm using activesync to connect to my works exchange server to sync email and calendar. Pretty sure its not possible to sync over the air to a pc without using exchange. You certainly won't be able to grab remote files via activesync.
If we could figure out how to get apps to work over vpn you could set one up on your pc and (theoretically at least) browse its contents using resco without having to bother with ftp.
If it's not possible to get stuff working over the vpn then you've probably found the best solution already. use ftp or setup a webserver on your pc and host the cab files on that. pocket ie seems to let you install cab files directly from a link.
btw which vnc client are you using on your phone?

Hi, I forget a lot of the time that people here have so many different carriers, sorry.
Here's the link to vj's terminal addon app
http://www.vijay555.com/?Releases:VJFullscreenTSC
And here's the link to the Mocha remote client app
http://www.mochasoft.dk/rd.htm
I used .Net vnc when I was able to get the authentification error
http://www.freewareppc.com/docs/netvncviewer.shtml
I think my problem on the authentification was with the apple remote desktop itself, I read about somethin in the authentification being non standard and sometimes the free vnc viewers don't work..but that was also pc to pc related, the same makers of the Mocha remote desktop also make a vnc client..that was gonna be my next try, I just haven't gotten there yet.
I inistally set up my pc to be able to remote to it from my phone and access aol chatrooms..well mainly one I have hung out in for years, then realized if I set up a server, I could install apps that I couldn't find in .cab form over the net with it, I used to have windows server 2003 set up with IIS(webserver) and the streaming media services, I'm wondering now if the windows streaming media really works with the pocket windows media, and if I could even use it with my gprs/edge connection, I'm still waiting on 3G, suprisingly the remote desktop isn't too bad on gprs/edge.
I'm currently waiting to get a new hard drive before I can really get to work, I'm testing on an old messed up xp install, and half the time I can't even access "my computer" or open folders without it crashin explorer.

Remote Desktop WM6 T-Mobile Wing help

I have been searching for clarity thru islands of info in the forums as well as the net. Any help directing me would be sweet. I am trying to use my T-Mobile Wing HTC WM6 to control a computer on my home network. I have somewhat knowledge of having the server and client. Have read and installed programs. I want to be at McDonalds *or any wifi spot and log in to home computer. When I have a VNC server running it says the network ip address of 192.168.1.101 but I assume thats because its thru my network. I have went to what is my ip address.com and tried that with the port the server allows in the vnc viewer and had no luck. I think I might be too newb for such an advanced concept. I am somewhat computer savvy to alot of technical terms. If anyone could help it would be greatly appreciated. I use messengers if faster communication is necessary. Thanks in advance to any help or thoughts.

homiedaclown said:
I have been searching for clarity thru islands of info in the forums as well as the net. Any help directing me would be sweet. I am trying to use my T-Mobile Wing HTC WM6 to control a computer on my home network. I have somewhat knowledge of having the server and client. Have read and installed programs. I want to be at McDonalds *or any wifi spot and log in to home computer. When I have a VNC server running it says the network ip address of 192.168.1.101 but I assume thats because its thru my network. I have went to what is my ip address.com and tried that with the port the server allows in the vnc viewer and had no luck. I think I might be too newb for such an advanced concept. I am somewhat computer savvy to alot of technical terms. If anyone could help it would be greatly appreciated. I use messengers if faster communication is necessary. Thanks in advance to any help or thoughts.
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a few thoughts,
1. what version of windows are you running. (e.g Xp Home or vista )
as Vista home basic and premium will not accept a remote desktop connection without a 3rd party hack to make it work only business and ultimate support remote desktop
If on XP home be sure to set allowing of remote desktop sessions to be allowed under the system properties area.
2. do you have a password setup on the user account that you log into windows on if no remote desktop will not allow access.
3. when browsing from a 3rd party network ( e.g mcdonalds or over GPRS/HSDPA ) you browse to your external ip not the dark ip of 192.168.1.x i use dyndns.org so i can just browse to the dynamic domain ip which is my external ip of my home pc
4. since you mentioned a dark ip i can only also assume your using a router at home. this means you either use such as LogmeIn/Hamachi and browse to the home pc's Hamachi IP ( e.g 5.5.100.50 ) or you will have to set a port forward in your router to forward any requests from port 3389 to the local IP of the home pc, ( e.g 192.168.1.100 )
I use static ip's in my router at home to ensire that the port forward will always goto my home pc's internal ip address. My particular router from netgear allows to have the ip of a specific machine be assigned the same ip internally based on it's ethernet adapter MAC address. making no changes required on the pc itself other them standard DHCP.
hope this helps.

1. what version of windows are you running. (e.g Xp Home or vista )
as Vista home basic and premium will not accept a remote desktop connection without a 3rd party hack to make it work only business and ultimate support remote desktop
If on XP home be sure to set allowing of remote desktop sessions to be allowed under the system properties area.
1. I am using Windows XP Home. I have allowed Remote Access under the tab Systems Tab.
2. I only have a pw on the prog VNC server on the pc but no passwords for windows *should I? :| ... Then I try VNC Viewer the the Pocket PC *T-mobile Wing.
3. I am reading up on the dyndns.org site. I assume I need the free dns service for those with dynamic IP addresses. *i hope I have that.
4. I have Linksys Bef11s4... I believe I can set static ip's though its tricky for me. I am going to try for the pc I want to connect to. This networking stuff gets a little bit blurry for me. I understand that static means non-changing, therefore the pc to connect to in network will have same ip on restarts and things. I am familiar with the port forwarding options *do i need tcp and udp checked?... again any thoughts definately appreciated...
lastly, Do you have any particular progs you recommend for me to do this concept? I have a few installed, but not sure i need all.. I have pocketputty on pda and wm6 rdc... plus vncvier. On the PC i have VNC CLient and VNC Server *believe I only need server. Thank you for your time Cyberjak

1. Just go to http://www.logmein.com
2. Sign up. It's free.
3. Screw Remote Desktop and juggling internal vs. external IP addresses and DNS.
4. Use/enjoy...no work needed.
MJB

Logmein has like 6 choices... I am looking to remote access outside my network... also is this free? I see trials and stuff... thanks for help mjb

have the logme in installed on main and when i use pda it doesnt work...i installed cab and log in fine but when i go to remote the pc it takes my access code and then pops up with error message for menuPDA.html... i cleared history and cookies and tried to make sense of the forums... I am using the T-mobile Wing with WM6.... wierd... willing to try the other way if needed... i guess i could also try loggin thru a pc not home to the remote pc... i believe i saying this remote term correctly but i believe u understand. I am trying to use my PDA anywhere to control home pc.... thanks for help guys... i am willing to try whatever way works...

I've used Logmein on my MDA Pro, Ameo and now on my Vario 3.
You should first try to remote your PC while your sitting next to it. That way you can see any firewall pop ups that may be blocking you.

I have been trying when i am right next to it... I am using my WM6 to connect wi-fi to the internet thru my network.... the pc i wanna control is on my network...

It doesn't matter what network the PDA and PC are on. Logmein uses an internet connection.

yeah, tried a bunch of things to get logmein to work, and it always comes to the page of "403 Forbidden (0x5) menuPDA.html System error: Access is denied. (5)"
checked their forrums too...
guessing i should try going back to client/server manual entry... either way, any advice from you guys much appreciated.... It seems WM6 are known for incompatibility issues with RDC situations.... hoping not the case but...thanks again guys

got logmein working nicely, thank you for the help guys...

Gooer Remote Desktop Service
I am using Gooer Remote Desktop Service(http://www.gooer.com) and it let me access my home PC using laptop or mobile phone.

remote desktop only works, as far as I know, on XP pro & Vista
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=357009

Remote Desktop software

hi all, forgive my ignorance but I would like to use my hd 2 to remotely access my home computer while out. I see the hd2 comes with remote desktop software but from what I can tell it can only be used to control computers on a lan, i.e. I'd need to be in the same domain anyway. is this correct?
z2 remote to pc is a decent piece of software ive used in the past, how well does it work on the hd2? would this new the nearest software to my needs?
tia!

its like the desktop version. it can work over the internet aswell.

Thanks - from what I've read it also supports pinch-to-zoom which is fantastic.
The only thing that concerns me is just how secure Remote Desktop is on the client side (WinXP). I guess a lot of it is down to the user to secure things, I found a decent guide here on how to minimise brute force attacks.
What appealed to me about z2 remote pc from a security point of view is that it required its own usernames/passwords to be set up as opposed to using actual Windows users and supported up to 256bit AES encryption, good stuff!
I figure I'll try both again and see how they perform.

SMS92 said:
Thanks - from what I've read it also supports pinch-to-zoom which is fantastic.
The only thing that concerns me is just how secure Remote Desktop is on the client side (WinXP). I guess a lot of it is down to the user to secure things, I found a decent guide here on how to minimise brute force attacks.
What appealed to me about z2 remote pc from a security point of view is that it required its own usernames/passwords to be set up as opposed to using actual Windows users and supported up to 256bit AES encryption, good stuff!
I figure I'll try both again and see how they perform.
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Remote desktop from Microsoft is extremely safe to use...
For one, it uses 128-bit encryption (RC4), you login using the same login mechanisms as the windows machine... and no user with blank password or not-admin can login, so you don't suffer from that, either...

Hi guys,
You can use Logmein Hamachi Network to extend access for computers.
Go to Logmein, create an account and create a network with Hamachi.
Install Hamachi on computer do you want to connect remote, like home and work computers.
Hamachi is a VPN Network software you can use Remote Desktop Mobile to access yours computers in Hamachi Network.
There is a client for logmein Hamachi that works on HD2. Join to your Hamachi Network and use a IP Address of your computer on RDP Mobile.
The solution with Logmein Hamachi is excelent. Remote Desktop Mobile make a great job and Logmein Hamachi can connect 16 computer anywhere for free.
Try and let me know your opinion.

work around for 3rd party vpn for remote desktop

Hi Everyone,
I am seeking advice and/or feedback. Lack of 3rd party vpn (Juniper in my case) is really frustrating me. I know about TeamViewer, Remote Desktop, and the LogMeIn solutions available. Part of my problem is that I do not have local admin access to my work computer.
The desktop app for TeamViewer will launch on my work PC, and it will allow for remote connections, but this is pretty clearly commercial usage of the product, and therefore would require buying a terribly expensive license.
Here's what I'm thinking.
* Install Windows 7 on a virtual machine on an HTPC that is on 24/7.
* Install TeamViewer desktop app on the Win7 VM. (connecting to my personal, home network would not be commercial use)
* While connected to my VM, connect to my work VPN server and then launch RDP to my work computer.
Thoughts? Will this be too laggy?
An alternative would be to use Putty/RDP (jailbreak required) to connect to my HTPC via ssh tunnel and then connect to the VPN server.
Until a native VPN client is provided, I think I will need to do this two step process...
Any feedback is appreciated....
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You've probably asked in the wrong forum.
sixsevenco said:
* Install Windows 7 on a virtual machine on an HTPC that is on 24/7.
* Install TeamViewer desktop app on the Win7 VM. (connecting to my personal, home network would not be commercial use)
* While connected to my VM, connect to my work VPN server and then launch RDP to my work computer.
Thoughts? Will this be too laggy?
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I've used this method:
- a 24/7 nettop at home with Windows 7 and a public IP address. Nettop allows incoming RDP connections.
- a VPN client on that nettop that allows connection to my office. I'm using ShrewSoft VPN as it is compatible with our VPN and it works fine through an RDP session.
- an RDP client on my phone or WinRT tab
When I need to connect to my workplace - I RDP into my home nettop, establish a VPN connection on it, then run RDP client on nettop to connect to my work PC. Speed is fine.
Long time ago I was thinking about making an app based on the OpenVPN sources that would not require any drivers. That app would allow you to make a tunnel to the specified port of a specified IP inside your work network - similar to SSH tunneling. But this is just an idea - would never have time to work on it.

sixsevenco said:
Hi Everyone,
I am seeking advice and/or feedback. Lack of 3rd party vpn (Juniper in my case) is really frustrating me. I know about TeamViewer, Remote Desktop, and the LogMeIn solutions available. Part of my problem is that I do not have local admin access to my work computer.
The desktop app for TeamViewer will launch on my work PC, and it will allow for remote connections, but this is pretty clearly commercial usage of the product, and therefore would require buying a terribly expensive license.
Here's what I'm thinking.
* Install Windows 7 on a virtual machine on an HTPC that is on 24/7.
* Install TeamViewer desktop app on the Win7 VM. (connecting to my personal, home network would not be commercial use)
* While connected to my VM, connect to my work VPN server and then launch RDP to my work computer.
Thoughts? Will this be too laggy?
An alternative would be to use Putty/RDP (jailbreak required) to connect to my HTPC via ssh tunnel and then connect to the VPN server.
Until a native VPN client is provided, I think I will need to do this two step process...
Any feedback is appreciated....
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Ahh! i spent many a day in talks with Juniper right up to a roundtable of management about a 64bit VPN client not being available. In the process of investigating the replacement i found Shrewsoft VPN http://www.shrew.net/download/vpn
It will connect to your juniper and they also provide a guide on how to do so. If you get stuck let me know and i can share some of my config. I use this successfully on both 32 and 64bit wind7/win8. In fact i just finished installing and using it on my new ASUS VivoTab Smart.

Could anyone provide me with a lot of assistance? I've been very interested in using a VPN for my computer and phone for awhile, as well as a proxy, and other means of privacy. I just get lost in a sea of information, I just want reliable, secure. I mean, I want to make sure the government of Japan can't track me down (example obviously).

IDKHow2ShaveWithaRAZR:/ said:
Could anyone provide me with a lot of assistance? I've been very interested in using a VPN for my computer and phone for awhile, as well as a proxy, and other means of privacy. I just get lost in a sea of information, I just want reliable, secure. I mean, I want to make sure the government of Japan can't track me down (example obviously).
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check out pirate bay, they have a vpn recommended but it's not like your site to site vpn. you could then use something like proxys.org and proxy through that then you'll be annonymised by the vpn and again by the proxy.

mamaich said:
You've probably asked in the wrong forum.
I've used this method:
- a 24/7 nettop at home with Windows 7 and a public IP address. Nettop allows incoming RDP connections.
- a VPN client on that nettop that allows connection to my office. I'm using ShrewSoft VPN as it is compatible with our VPN and it works fine through an RDP session.
- an RDP client on my phone or WinRT tab
When I need to connect to my workplace - I RDP into my home nettop, establish a VPN connection on it, then run RDP client on nettop to connect to my work PC. Speed is fine.
Long time ago I was thinking about making an app based on the OpenVPN sources that would not require any drivers. That app would allow you to make a tunnel to the specified port of a specified IP inside your work network - similar to SSH tunneling. But this is just an idea - would never have time to work on it.
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Thanks. I've done something similar, and it seems to be working fine. I don't have dedicated hardware, so I've used a vm, but speed is working ok.
Shrew Soft looks interesting... I need to check it out.