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Multiple Bluetooth Devices

Hi there guys, its been a while since posting but I have some great news regarding using multiple bluetooth devices in the car.
A few weeks ago I purchased a Navman 4410 GPS unit for my XDAII. With the new "72" rom the Navman worked perfectly with my XDAII straight out of the box over bluetooth.
Today I installed a Sony Ericsson HBC-30 bluetooth hands free carkit (Which also worked perfectly out of the box). I was interested to know if I could have the GPS unit operating and have the handsfree carkit working at the same time.
I was simply sitting in the carpark, with the GPS connected and onscreen, then I used my other phone to call my XDAII... the call came up on screen (interrupting the GPS screen) I pressed the "answer" button on the Sony Ericsson handsfree kit, and the call came through perfectly!
Once finished with the call I pressed the "hangup" button on the handsfree kit, and then a few quick taps on the screen returned me to the GPS navigation screen.
Certainly not perfect, however it appears that the bluetooth issues are finally getting resolved, and allowing us to begin using the XDAII as it was intended.

Hi Colonel, thanks for your update, it is comforting to know that they are finally sorting out BT problems.
Is there any way to get the phone screen to automatically close after finishing a call? so I don't have to manually close it to get back to my GPS screen?

No I dont think you can. Not without altering the GPS software to continually make sure its "on top" of other windows... but then you'd have a problem with seeing the "incoming call screen" as the GPS software would try to jump on top of it.

I'd be so happy simply if I could make HCB30 and Blutrek G2 headset work side by side on my Qtek...

points are:
1-where coul i get that da***n 1.72 rom for my xda 2
2-where could i get the g2 HS in italy(even worlwide...) or all over the web at reasonable price
help a newbie...

Kolonel,
I can confirm your experience as far as BT GPS is concerned.
I however still have one issue to solve: When the MDAII (=XDA2) can't connect to the GPS (BT off, GPS off, GPS out of reach) and I start TomTom3, TomTom3 keeps searching for the GPS which results in a almost freezing MDA2.
Using rom 1,72 from Qtek I bonded the BT GPS and confirmed the question about assigning a com port.
In TomTom I assigned this (COM5) com port.
All works fine except for the issue mentioned.
Does this sound familiar?
Clues?
BTW in the BT settings screen there is nothing shown about the assigned com port (just free space next to the two lines that should indicate the in- and outbound com ports). I found COM5 to be assigned to BT by trial and error . . .

edsub said:
Kolonel,
I can confirm your experience as far as BT GPS is concerned.
I however still have one issue to solve: When the MDAII (=XDA2) can't connect to the GPS (BT off, GPS off, GPS out of reach) and I start TomTom3, TomTom3 keeps searching for the GPS which results in a almost freezing MDA2.
Using rom 1,72 from Qtek I bonded the BT GPS and confirmed the question about assigning a com port.
In TomTom I assigned this (COM5) com port.
All works fine except for the issue mentioned.
Does this sound familiar?
Clues?
BTW in the BT settings screen there is nothing shown about the assigned com port (just free space next to the two lines that should indicate the in- and outbound com ports). I found COM5 to be assigned to BT by trial and error . . .
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edsub,
Are you using "Bluetooth Tools"? Because I am not, i'm using the native bluetooth stack only.
I am using "Outbound" Com port 5 ONLY for my GPS. My 1.72 rom is the IMATE rom.
Im afraid that i'm not familiar with tomtom. So I cant help you there, sorry.

I am deliberately only using native MS bT stack.
I am only using COM5 for GPS too
What does the BT Settings show under
"Bluetooth Serial Port Setup"?
With me:
"Outbound COM port" checked, but after the colon is a "<not present>" shown.
"Inbound COM port" UNchecked, after the colon is a grayed-out "<not present>" shown.
Like i said I AM able to use the GPS via COM5.
Maybe this issue is a pure TomTom issue, I think your answer could clarify that.

edsub said:
I am deliberately only using native MS bT stack.
I am only using COM5 for GPS too
What does the BT Settings show under
"Bluetooth Serial Port Setup"?
With me:
"Outbound COM port" checked, but after the colon is a "<not present>" shown.
"Inbound COM port" UNchecked, after the colon is a grayed-out "<not present>" shown.
Like i said I AM able to use the GPS via COM5.
Maybe this issue is a pure TomTom issue, I think your answer could clarify that.
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Edsub, thats really weird... mine is:
"Inbound COM port:" UN checked, and after the colon is a grayed out "COM4"
"Outbound COM port:" checked, and after the colon is a black "COM5"

bluetooth
hi guys
im using imate 172 and tomtom 3 with a sony ericsson hb35 it works first time all the time with the standard stack. it works that good i even went and sold my carkit and just got a hold instead :lol:

@Kolonel Klink: I guessed it's strange. What ROM are you using exactly (OS & Extended).
I use the 1.72 Qtek rom with my own Extended Rom (wich is based on the Qtek ExtRom to which I added T-Mobile Nl customisations). I am sure there is nothing regarding Bluetooth in my ExtRom.
I heard from someone who uses the iMate 1.72 OS Rom (with his own cooked ExtRom) that he has the same results as you have.
Just trying to find to cause of this. Maybe I have to reflash to the iMate 1.72?? (shouldnt make a difference as both iMate and Qtek OS ROM's are the same 1.72.00WWE . . . .)
@freelockuk: Most interesting is the origin of your ExtRom. Arent there any Bluetooth enhancements in that ExtRom (like there were in the 1.60.36 T-Mobile NL ExtRom) that maybe make your 1.72 work better than mine concerning Bluetooth?

addition to prev post:
I noticed that there were two BT registry settings missing to get the assigned COMport show in BT Settings.
Also noticed another interesting value:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\ExtModems\bluetooth_dun]
With me this one is:
"port"="BSP9:"
In prev versions it was:
"port"="BSP4:"
Can anyone with a 1.72 ROM that has a BT GPS mouse working via SPP AND who can start Tom Tom without the BT GPS mouse 'connected' post their setting of this key??

Okay, i've not cooked my own extended rom. I'm using the stock standard one from iMate.
I did find something odd today. I went into an IT expo and I turned flight-mode on. When I was finished I left and turned flight mode off. Then got in my car. I tried to make a call and it didnt go thru the handsfree kit.
Weird! I had to repair the device. So I did... and it all worked fine again. So I turned flight mode back on then off, and I ended up with the same result. It appears to lose the pairing when you turn the flight mode on.
Very odd!

I still have not found a solution to the behaviour where TomTom locks up the MDA with is isnt able to connect to my BT GPS.
Today I found out that this same behavious accurs on devices (not just MDA, HP too) that use a serial (wired) GPS when they take the current off the GPS . . .
That means:
1. TomTom Navigator can't cope with the situation where it cant connect to the GPS that is installed
2. With me TomTom navigator is not able to use the Bluetooth protocol on its side to cope with the (for Bluetooth GPS quite usual) unavailability of the BT GPS.
Again: Can anyone post me some info on this :?: :?:
Especially the registry items under
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Bluetooth\]
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Bluetooth\SerialPort]
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\ExtModems\bluetooth_dun]
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\ExtModems\bluetooth_dcn]
are of interest

@ Klink
Thanks for sharing your experiences, I'm watching them with interest.
Just wanted to as you about using your navman and the headset at the same time.
In your first post to this topic, you mentioned your 'carpark' test. I assume you weren't moving at the time, so the navman wasn't trying to give you directions.
What happens when you're driving along, getting instructions (ie. "turn left in 300m") from your navman, and the phone rings? Does the navman stop giving directions while you are talking on the phone using your BT handsfree? When you hang up does it resume giving directions again?
Thanks,
Hooligan

Emtact Trine BT GPS, Bluetrek G3 BT Headset
Like all of you my exprience is that it all works together.
But I've one problem. When navigating with TomTom and there is a incoming phone call and when I accept the call with my headset TomTom continues navigating but the sound of my QTEK2020 is muted during the call. So the instructions of TomTom cannot be heard.
I'm using plain MS BT Stack.
Regards,
Mark

This behaviour seems not the be dependent of the use of a BT headset. I have a carkit and during a call TomTom stays active in background. Sound of TomTom is muted however, which I find nice.
When the phone call is ended, TomTom starts talking again.(also nice)

first of all my nevigation program works great with the jabra 250 bt , it also mutes the program during a call is madeqreceived but :
there is anothe program that is called "ontime" that sends trqaffic status to the imate, using the gprs andthen calculates the fastest root( from junction to juction) and the problem is:
if i want to use buth progtams with royaltek gps bt rbt1000 they both need the com5 port fot bt.
to solve this problem one can use a prog called: "gpsgate" which makes a virtual port for the programs to use so u can use several program with one bt device.
for some it works only with bt tools, for others it doesnt work at all, gos knows why?!
but - if any1 needs a solution - here is one.
have a nice day , spark
QTEK 2020 - 1.72.00 WWE - 1.06.01
Back Pack - jabra 250 BT- royaltek rbt 1000 GPS BT - DESTINATOR3(LIKE TOM TOM 3) - soon will recieve sd 1gb*40

Spark, where did you get 'gpsgate'??

here is the link
http://franson.biz/gpsgate/download.asp

Problem bluetooth - GPS and Parrot CarKit

anyone has the same problem ?
When I'm using TomTom 5 as navigator and i receive or make a phone call, the navigator stops everything and when a finished my phone call everything comes back again.
Why ?????

I have the same and I thought it was normal beacuse the bt can handle only one device, isn't it?

No
You are wrong because usually bluetooth allow only 1 connection per time of different kind!
For example 1 voice connection to the carkit and 1 data connection to the gps!
Before I had a Nokia 6630 and everything worked perfectly !
Post your appreciated comments!
Bye

Re: No
filippino said:
You are wrong because usually bluetooth allow only 1 connection per time of different kind!
For example 1 voice connection to the carkit and 1 data connection to the gps!
Before I had a Nokia 6630 and everything worked perfectly !
Post your appreciated comments!
Bye
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In fact, I did manage to get 3 connections (GPS, Headset, ActiveSync) at one time w/o problem.
To answer yr original question, my Tomtom 5.0 works fine on phone call.

Help
So can you help me to solve my problem ?
I have an IMate Jam with Rom 1.11 italian,
what's your version ??
Maybe you have updated the bluetooth stack ?
Thanx !

Help
So can you help me to solve my problem ?
I have an IMate Jam with Rom 1.11 italian,
what's your version ??
Maybe you have updated the bluetooth stack ?
Thanx !

BTW, I am using GPS Gate all the time so that I can open 2 GPS software (TT and Routis 2). Maybe that's another reason I didn't have problem.

I have the same problem.
I am using i TREK GPS and Jabra 800.
When im navigating, and in the middle I receieve a phone call, the GPS connection hangs even after the phone call ends.
I usualy make a SR after that and continue navigating.
What is the problem??
Thank you

Same story is with my MDA T-Mobile Compact:
EVERY (I stress it) EVERY time I use it with Jabra BT-800 and GPS receiver BT-338 when OziExplorerCE is on for a short time suddenly Ozi hangs. I try to restart it - no way, when BT option is touched, Magician says: NO BT HARDWARE ON THIS DEVICE INSTALLED. Only SR (sometimes even only HR) helps.
Tried to use JAM_Bluetooth_No_Hardware_Patch-1.CAB - it does not help.
Is there a solution? GURU, wake up, please!

Same sad story. This time it's about PocketGPSMoscow software, GPS BT-338 and SBH-100 BT Hand-free.
Every time there is an incoming call, the device looses BT connection to the GPS module.
Turning BT on and off does help,but doesn't bring much comfort. I hope this is not the BT-338 problem.
Should anyone have any bright ideas on how to find a solution to the problem, many will be very greateful.

It's strange. I really doesn't have any problem w/ my Imate Jam (flashed w/ O2 Traditional Chinese 1.11 rom) using my TomTom BT GPS w/ Sony HBH 600 BT headset.
Maybe you guys can try the following to see if it works. (for rom of 1.11 or later)
1. pair yr GPS w/ the pda.
2. In BT Com port setting, make sure both incoming port for Com4 and outgoing port for Com5 is check
3. Install GPSGate, set input port as Com5 and create virtual port Com6
4. Uninstall TomTom BT GPS driver since U doesn't need it at all
5. In TomTom GPS setting, choose "Other GPS" and choose "Franson VSerial Com6"
Let me know if this works 4 U or not.

Anybody try to upgrate/downgrate the rom version? One man in GSM service said, that BT doesn't work propriety with LEng Keybord install to 1.11 version rom. M.b. with TomTom thу same problem?

If you ask me : the problem isn't with your BT but with the phone.
I only use an GPS BT receiver and if somebody calls me, i pick up the phone and also then the GPS disconnects until the call ended ...

zoom21 said:
Anybody try to upgrate/downgrate the rom version? One man in GSM service said, that BT doesn't work propriety with LEng Keybord install to 1.11 version rom. M.b. with TomTom thу same problem?
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I've got 1.12 and I'm sure GSM is not involved - BT is the dead fish.
Every time I have a BT connection with Jabra and BT-338 simultaneously, EVEN when there is NO incoming calls, BT + GPS hang the Magician.
Unfortunately I do not remember if this bug happens when Only BT-338 is connected. Will check and report.

Orange SPV M500 with crap $icrosoft Bluetooth Stacks

Please , please can anyone tell me if it is possible to remove the crap $icrosoft Bluetooth drivers and on my SPV M500 and install better ones. As they are so crap and have taken out alot of function.
Please tell me there is a way
Thanks
Brian

What do you want??? I'm using that same MS stack on my S110 and I cannot say I miss anything compared to Widcomm on my old iPAQ, everything I need (ActiveSync, OBEX, SerialPort) can be done via BT. What are you missing???
Besindes you can install another stack like the Toshiba one or one from Bluesoleil and disable the MS one (cannot be uninstalled because it is in ROM).
Magican with 64MB RAM cant run Widcom but maybe the 128MB ones like the S110 can, but I'm not brave enough to test it. Despite I've no idea where to get the Widcom stack for PPC.

one of the most important things is my car kit requires me to activate the serial port on port 5, but My IPAQ in the bluetooth i click on the carkit port and select connect, and works fine, but i do not have that fuction with my Orange M500, until i can connect the port it will not work so thats why i need other bluetooth software that has this fuction. it seems like $icrosoft is the onlt bluetooth stact that does not have this fuction, and they have cut it down
Hope you understand that

Well I use my Holux 236 GPS on Port5 using SPP (SerialPortProfile) so the functionality is in the MS stack for sure.

Sorry and by the way, where can i get the Toshiba one or one from Bluesoleil bluetooth stack drivers and how do i disable the $icrosoft ones
Thanks again
Brian

Yes, but it does not have the manual connect fuction like other bluetooth statcks do, and i can not connect to the carkit without it. my other device have that fuction and works well, just not my M500
Brian

You can get the bluesoleil one here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=18537&highlight=bluesoleil
The Toshiba one can be found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=15604&highlight=toshiba
Important: Both stacks are not perfect. The bluesoleil is limited because the Magician is not a device it is registered on and because of that it has a 5MB data trasfer limit before you need to start it again (like a trial). The Toshiba one is really good but unstable at times.
You best bet is prolly the Bluesoleil one and the "trial" limitation can be removed, see here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=24801&highlight=bluesoleil
Instructions are avail in those two threads too. Could you let me know how it goes, I'm thinking of using another stack too.

Using a GPS mouse should work without problems. I guess you're doing something wrong. The MS stack establishes the serial port connection automatically once an application tries to use that port. I don't know how it works, but the stack can separate between a connection through the serial profile using Active Sync and a connection using a navigation software to the GPS mouse. For me, it works with no problem. I can use ActiveSync and afterwards go into my car, switch on TomTom and it connects to my bluetooth GPS mouse automatically.
I guess it also has to do how the corresponding navigation software deals with the BT stack. Therefore you should try another software and see if it works better.
It's basically true, that you can do almost everything with the crippled MS stack aswell. Even browsing the net through ActiveSync, even though it has no PAN profile. What it really lacks is the A2DP profile. I think WM5 also features HID, for keyboards, mouses and stuff.

i do not have any problem with any other bluetooth device, it just my CK3500 karkit requires you to do a manual connect, and the MS stack does not have that function.
And thanks to Private-Cowboy, will try this and post update
Thanks again

brian colston said:
i do not have any problem with any other bluetooth device, it just my CK3500 karkit requires you to do a manual connect, and the MS stack does not have that function.
And thanks to Private-Cowboy, will try this and post update
Thanks again
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Then really it's the car kit that's at fault. :?

TheBrit, looks like you was correct, problem with the carkit
Thanks
Brian

Dandie said:
Using a GPS mouse should work without problems. I guess you're doing something wrong...
...It's basically true, that you can do almost everything with the crippled MS stack aswell. Even browsing the net through ActiveSync, even though it has no PAN profile. What it really lacks is the A2DP profile. I think WM5 also features HID, for keyboards, mouses and stuff.
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I'm afraid I not fully agree with you...
In my case (I have a MDA Compact) for my bluetooth GPS mouse to work properly within TomTom 5, I need to bond the GPS mouse with COM5. And that means that I cannot connect simultaniously to an external GSM (for TomTom Traffic via GPRS).
Why an external phone on my MDA Compact? On the MDA I have my work provider and on an external phone I have my private provider with GPRS (a bit difficult I know).
As said to two functions together doesn't work with the MS stack because of the bonding of the GPS mouse on COM5.
Except...
Except when I install an old version of Bluetooth Tools!!! With Bluetooth tools I can bond my GPS mouse to a virtual COM port, which TomTom 5 recognizes! And now I can also use my external GPRS phone!

OK, I can have 2 connection through my MS stack. as i do it
i bound com 5 to my portable Slim GPS until and run tomtom 5.10 in my car, and that works fine, then on my car kit i click connect to paired device and it then connect fine,(so i have a com 5 connection to my GPS and a connection to my hands free car kit). all through my Orange SPV 500 at once
This work great,
But i wanted to use the car kit for handfree and GPS, but as my gps does not work on my car kit i am stuck with my portable Slim GPS unit for now
Brian

brian colston said:
OK, I can have 2 connection through my MS stack. as i do it
i bound com 5 to my portable Slim GPS until and run tomtom 5.10 in my car, and that works fine, then on my car kit i click connect to paired device and it then connect fine,(so i have a com 5 connection to my GPS and a connection to my hands free car kit). all through my Orange SPV 500 at once
This work great,
But i wanted to use the car kit for handfree and GPS, but as my gps does not work on my car kit i am stuck with my portable Slim GPS unit for now
Brian
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Yes, it works with a handsfree carkit. But it doesn't with an external phone, maybe because the phone is a 2-way connection? Try it and you'll see it doesn't!

Ok sorry about that
Brian

Bluetooth GPS Woes

Hi,
I seem to be having a problem with GPS bluetooth related connections with my Dopod 838 Pro.
Ive paired my Globalsat BT338 receiver and setup an outgoing serial port on my Dopod, and I can use Destinator 6 and TomTom 6 fine (for the time being).
The next day/time when I try to start the GPS applications, both programs report that they cant find the GPS signal/receiver even though its been correctly configured to work previously.
I then have to enter the Bluetooth settings to change and assign another outgoing serial port and reconfigure the GPS applications to the new serial port to work.
The programs and the GPS receiver worked fine with my old iPAQ hx4700 so its not a receiver or program issue.
I'm at my wits end and would appreciate any info on solving this problem.
Thanks in advance.

Delete / unpair your GPS
Make a new pair, and when you assign an outgoing COM port, use a NON secure COM port.
(Deselect the checkbox)
This should work

Rik_053 said:
Delete / unpair your GPS
Make a new pair, and when you assign an outgoing COM port, use a NON secure COM port.
(Deselect the checkbox)
This should work
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Hi,
Ive been through this unpair / pair scenario more than a few times and Ive never used a secure com port connection.

try destinator PN 6
also make sure you pair BEFORE starting Destinator PN; I spent a whole two days before I Got this to work ... then once it worked .. the answer was actually quite logical
sorry cant remember how i did it as it was months ago when I got and paired my tytn; now I use destinator pn 6

njay22 said:
try destinator PN 6
also make sure you pair BEFORE starting Destinator PN; I spent a whole two days before I Got this to work ... then once it worked .. the answer was actually quite logical
sorry cant remember how i did it as it was months ago when I got and paired my tytn; now I use destinator pn 6
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Hi,
The pairing has been done before any program was launched.
Im trying with both destinator 6 and tomtom 6

Bluetooth GPS Woes...
Is it the Bluetooth connection you are having problems with or getting a GPS signal. I have this exact setup working fine. What I notice is that often it will take a few minutes for the BT-338 to find enough satellites to provide a GPS signal (green light flashing). The bluetooth should connect immediately regardless of whether the GPS signal is available yet. The blue light on the BT-338 should flash twice as fast as when you first turn it on to tell you that it is connected to a Bluetooth device.
I am using TomTom 6 and it will say no GPS signal or GPS signal lost XX seconds ago. Is this similar to what you are noticing?

clearwave1 said:
Is it the Bluetooth connection you are having problems with or getting a GPS signal. I have this exact setup working fine. What I notice is that often it will take a few minutes for the BT-338 to find enough satellites to provide a GPS signal (green light flashing). The bluetooth should connect immediately regardless of whether the GPS signal is available yet. The blue light on the BT-338 should flash twice as fast as when you first turn it on to tell you that it is connected to a Bluetooth device.
I am using TomTom 6 and it will say no GPS signal or GPS signal lost XX seconds ago. Is this similar to what you are noticing?
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Hi,
Both the bluetooth reciever and the software work fine and obtain a fix.
the next time the software is started it cant find the reciver and i have to unpair, repair and set a new comm port for it to work.
the gps reciver obtains a fix but the pda cant see it.

Destinator PN has an automatic reconnect tick box on the GPS Settings page. I don't know if D6 or TT have a similar thing. If so, make sure this box is ticked.
I use D PN with a Parrot CK3300 combined handsfree and GPS receiver, and after major stuffing around trying to get D PN set to the correct port initially, it has worked fine since.

Ive sorted the issue out and hopefully this will help others experiencing the same problem.
The problem was that although an outgoing serial port was setup, for some reason it was not mapped to the bluetooth device.
It just specified "COM9" instead of having the bluetooth device "BT338(COM9)" under the bluetooth COM Ports setting.
This seems to be the reason why when the device was unpaired/paired and a com port setup it worked for the time being. After the bluetooth device was disconnected the settings mapping to the device were not retained.

Rambler76,
I am looking to get a GPS unit for my Dopod 838Pro. Which of the two, Destinator or Tom Tom, do you like best?
I know where to get Destinator 6 in Sydney, where does one get Tom Tom 6?

Rambler76 said:
Hi,
the next time the software is started it cant find the reciver and i have to unpair, repair and set a new comm port for it to work.
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Can I ask, with a new com port being asssigned each time you have a problem, when you run out of ports what happens?
Are you able to regain the use of these once assigned ports ? by resetting any settings ?
Does this make any sense?
Thanks for any input ..
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killabeezz said:
Rambler76 said:
Hi,
the next time the software is started it cant find the reciver and i have to unpair, repair and set a new comm port for it to work.
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Can I ask, with a new com port being asssigned each time you have a problem, when you run out of ports what happens?
Are you able to regain the use of these once assigned ports ? by resetting any settings ?
Does this make any sense?
Thanks for any input ..
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hi,
what i mean to say is that i switch com ports.
the issue was resolved by mapping the com port to the bluetooth device.
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Yes I understand what you have done but can I ask again :-
Are you able to regain the use of these once assigned ports ? by resetting any settings ?
Thanks,,

Tom Tom Woes
Hi,
I had the same problem until recently.
To fix I did the following:
Delete pair with GPS receiver,
Create new pair with GPS receiver (put in passkey 0000)
Tick the box for Serial Port
The in Bluetooth Settings -> COM Ports tab, I clicked 'New Outgoing Port'
Selected the GPS unit, and selected Port 4 and unticked the 'Secure' checkbox
Now open TomTom, Select Change Preferences, then Show GPS Status, then Configure, then Other Bluetooth Receiver, then Select COM 4.
Now TT works as it should - turning on and off Bluetooth on Open/Close, and no problems with needing to re-pair.
Previously I had always paired the BT GPS on COM 0 with Secure ticked. This worked the first time only, and I had to re-create the same pair each time I wanted to run the app.
Hope this helps some of you.
(btw I was using TT6 when I found the solution, but I imagine it would have worked for 5 too)

dopod bluetooth problems
Guys I have the same problem with my bluetooth and my dopod. It connects then disconnects.
I have also noticed that the systems unchecks the turn on bluetooth check box and the make this device discoverable to other devices.
Does anyone have any ideas?
Guys I just read this at another forum.
"The Dopod 838 pro and WM5 have chronic problems with the bluetooth stack, which is why everyone is waiting for the new ROM to appear, which will hopefully be WM6. HTC (manufacturers of Dopod 838 pro) announced that the new ROM will fix all of the known problems"
This I learn after having a car accident (minor) in my car playing with the bluetooth and trying to get it to work. Hutchison 3g should only be selling these with a warning.
I assume there is also a problem with the JasJam as they are the same phone.

Knight__Mayor said:
Hi,
To fix I did the following:
The in Bluetooth Settings -> COM Ports tab, I clicked 'New Outgoing Port'
Selected the GPS unit, and selected Port 4 and unticked the 'Secure' checkbox
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Have to concur with Knight_Mayor. Was having trouble getting a signal/satellite fix using a Holux GPSlim236. Then I set it to COM9 with the "Secure" box unchecked. I had barely closed the window and my M3100 had a fix from inside my house! (tomtom 6 had been running in the background whilst the adjustments were being made)

dabs1 said:
Have to concur with Knight_Mayor. Was having trouble getting a signal/satellite fix using a Holux GPSlim236. Then I set it to COM9 with the "Secure" box unchecked. I had barely closed the window and my M3100 had a fix from inside my house! (tomtom 6 had been running in the background whilst the adjustments were being made)
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yeah i recon its the screwy MS bluetooth stack, im interested to hear from anyone running tomtom on hermes with the widcomm bluetooth

Tomtom And Gps
I have found that the best cure for gps woes and pocket pc is to use GPS Gate. It make a virtual com port and will always be the same. I have used it always and never have problems connecting.
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Bluetooth GPS Question

Hello everybody, Long time reader first time poster.
I've got a little question I'd like to have answered.
I've got a I-mate JasJam and I use it for a lot of things, one is for GPS. To understand my problem I'm going to quickly tell you what my situation was before.
I used to Own a Ipaq RW6828 (Atom) However, I managed to drop it in a mop bucket and it died. (still sold it on ebay and got 80 bucks for it =D ) So I decided to get a Hermes. Back when I used my Ipaq for GPS, All I had to do was turn on the GPS receiver and run TomTom and it would instantly connect the Receiver to the Ipaq and would proceed in using it.
HOWEVER, now with my JasJam, every time I wish to use the GPS, I have to set it up every time ( select incoming / outgoing ports, etc) Which is a little annoying as when I wish to use the GPS, I don't really wish to waste the time setting it up.
Now this leads to my question if you haven't already guessed, How do I get it to do what the ipaq did and instantly connect the receiver to the PDA? I do know one way in fixing it but it requires an upgrade to WM6, and apparently it voids the JasJam warranty if I do so.
One thing I have noticed is that my Ipaq used to have a GPS settings program in the settings menu under the System tap, and the JasJam doesn't. I'm running WM5, and the GPS receiver is a generic one I got off ebay..
So that's my problem, I'd be greatly in your debpt if you helped me figure this one out.
Thank you for reading all of this, I can be the type of person to ramble on

The way I got it to work
Hi There-
I had the same problem this week - and I found the following solution which now works as we all want it. i.e turn both devices on - start TT and voila.
The way I did this.
1. Go into Settings -> Bluetooth and pair your GPS device.
2. Set the outgoing port (i set up port COM port 9 - though you can do whatever is free).
3. In your TomTom folder on your Hermes - you will find a file called: navigator.cfg - firstly take a backup of this file.
4. Then open this file up (note: i transferred it to my PC for editing).
5. On the first line (or second) of this file - you will see a reference to a COM port.
6. Ensure it is the same COM port as per Step 2 above.
7. Copy the file back to your Hermes - overwriting the original one.
8. Then start up TT and give it about 10-15 seconds and you will see that it will automatically connect - each and every time.
9. MOST Importantly do not EVER go into the COM port settings within the TT app on the hermes - as this will overwrite the 'navigator.cfg' file and corrupt your settings. If you do - then just follow the steps again.
Let me know if it works ok for you.
Thanks

Hi there.
Thanks for the reply, however this didn't work.
TomTom is fine once I pair it. It's the fact that I have to pair the Receiver my hermes every time I turn the GPS on. And set it up under the blue tooth connection settings. That's whats annoying me, TomTom picks up the receiver fine when I set it up the first time, So yeah, it;s more of a Windows Mobile thing that I need to fix.
Suggestions?

Could this be because TomTom connects to the device over bluetooth and thus takes control of it?
I use Navigon Mobile Navigator and that "locks" onto the BT GPS, so when I exit that it shuts down the BT. However, if I've got a BT headset switched on it leaves BT switched on.
Have you paired the device already with your PPC device before you let the SatNav software have it's go?
If it is still not saving the settings then it could be a problem with you're bluetooth. I had this earlier in the week and unfortunately the only "fix" I found was to do a hard reset. Cue a couple hours reinstalling
Ahh well. Good luck and you'll let us know the outcome, won't you?!

Thats a shame it did not work for you.
I take it you have gone through the tomtom support notes like this one?:
http://www.tomtom.com/support/index.php?FID=3236

JASJAM GPS Receiver Bluetooth connection problem!!
hi guys,
i have same problem when imaking a Bluetooth connection with a GPS Receiver i have jasjam W5 OS when i search my JASJAM finds my GPS Receiver its showing (?) question mark i think it is not recognizing well it pairing also but i don't no how to establish connection with GPS receiver there is no connect option my friend has PDA2K it has connect option he can connect all devices but mine not showing please help me
Thanks
destinator 6

Ok. Pairing.
Switch on your phone bluetooth. Switch on the GPS/BT device. Goto the BT menu on you're phone and tap 'add new device' and hold the gps near.
When it comes up with what you think is the closest match then select and press next. It'll ususally ask you to put a password in. This is either 1234 or 0000.
If this is ok then click next or finish.
You might need to setup a com port on your pda for this phone for some other devices to connect. To do this you'd clck on "Add com port" and then select the device and there will be a way of selecting a com port.
I know it's a bit fuzzy but ive not got the device ihere, and this is all in memory.
Cheers, Elwyn

hi Elwyn M3100 ,
thanks for your quick reply, i did everythg seems working fine but i don't know how to connect pairing no problem and port also but my only problem there is no connect option when i go in destinator it says no GPS found .....
i tried to update my ROM but no result .... im having bad luck

Right. Ok.
1. Do you have the BT GPS unit sucessfully paired to the PDA?
2. When you go into your satnav software, is Bluetooth on you're phone switched on?

THANKX BUDDY ! IT WORKED !!!!!!!!!! YUPEEEEEEEEE
Thanks Again ....

onlyamir007 said:
THANKX BUDDY ! IT WORKED !!!!!!!!!! YUPEEEEEEEEE
Thanks Again ....
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Most SatNav software, once it discovers you have a Bluetooth GPS module take it upon themselves to switch BT on and off on your phone. In one way this can be helpful, but bloody annoying if you've got a BT headset in use too
However. Once you've got it mastered, things look up from there.
Occasionally as well I find that the BT isn't actually on when it says it is, and a soft reset usually cures that.... Anyway. Congrats