I have a Mogul and my wireless is through Qwest (Sprint), as is my ADSL line at home. I would like to set up a RAS server so that when I am out of town, I can establish a dial-up connection to my home network and then hopefully have access to the Internet. Has anyone out there been successful with this setup? Is there anything about the protocols (ADSL) or implementations thereof that would prohibitive?
If you are talking about dialup via CSD, then it should be easy - you can get it working in few minutes with a recent linux distribution, with an old analog modem.
But you have to bear with 9.6k baud - except you got the expensive HSCSD (not commonly available to all operators)
And the HTC implementation of CSD is hmmm... a little too buggy.
Thanks ww2250. I'll give it a try and see what happens.
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Whats the diff between csd and gprs. Right now I created a new connection by doing start; settings; connections; connections; modify (internet settings). Under "My connection" I have it set for "cellular line (GPRS)". Under baud rate it is 19200 (why so slow?). Clicking next I have "wap.voicestream.com". This works but is really slow. Is this the correct way to use GPRS or is this CSD? If not, what is CSD? Is it better. Sorry for so many questions but I really dont know much about this. I have t-mobile in the US (southern california).
CSD (Circuit-Switched Data)
CSD is similar to your PC dialing up to a ISP / corperate modem pool for a data connection. For XDA or a cell phone in general, it consumes your air time. (If you make the CSD call during nights & weekends with T-Mobile, air time is free.) You get a 7Kbps avg narrow pipe - pulling an Internet page is very slow, but you can turn off the graphics on XDA to speed it up. GPRS is designed for data, giving you 40Kbps avg pipe, comparable to your PC dial-up speed but you have to pay T-Mobile $20/mo for unlimited data service. See thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=4723
for setup. Hope this helps.
I've seen a lot of postings about how to use Wizards as dialup modems, either via Bluetooth or USB, and I presume that this allows making a dialled GPRS connection from the latop but does not allow the phone to access the internet at the same time? (Does it also block voice calls on the phone?)
I'd like to know if there is any way to use a currently active "T-Mobile Internet" unlimited GPRS connection on my device (which now stays on most of the time) to allow access to the internet from a USB-connected laptop?
Just to occasionally test the theory of course, not really allowed to use laptops with this tarif...
Andre
I have the Cingular Unlimited PDA Connect plan, $40 extra on my plan. It's insane. However, I was told by every sales rep that I could go online with my laptop through this plan, and that it would be unlimited. However, after some research and reading through fine prints and other forums, it appears that if I connect my laptop to my 8125 and try to browse, I'll get charged per kb. I wonder how they know it's a laptop and not the PDA, considering the similarity in the data traffic.
My idea is this, can the Cingular 8125 be used as a "Proxy" or "NAT" Device? The PDA will connect to Cingular, and relay the laptops traffic. My assumption is, when used as a modem, your laptop connects directly to Cingular's network, it gets the public IP and its traffic is directly pushed on their network. If the PDA can act as a proxy or nat device, then the PDA will get the IP and push the data directly onto their network. The laptop will just connect seamlessly through the PDA. This should bypass their stupid billing.
They do realize that Verizon has 1-2mbits for $60-$80 a month unlimited for laptops. T-Mobile has 112kbits for $30 unlimited for laptops. Cingular's out of their mind to charge $80 for 112kbits for unlimited for laptops.
I don't plan on using my laptop much to go online through my PDA, 112kbits is already too slow for my taste, but as a network engineer, occasionally I need to telnet into a router or ssh into a server and the little clients on my pda isn't enough, need the laptop.
This feature may also be good for wireless hot spots I pay for. When you pay, sometimes they authenticate based on wireless mac address. If I registered using the pda, then only that pda would be allowed to go on, my laptop wouldn't, I'd have to pay another charge just for the laptop. If the PDA is a Proxy/NAT device, it would push my laptop's traffic onto the wifi network as if it were coming from it, from its authenticated mac address. Of for networks that only assign you 1 IP, like at work, or... etc.
i have the same phone and same plan. i was also wondering if they charged per kb if i used my phone as a modem.
anybody with a better experience?
Sadly...
http://www.cingular.com/business/popup_data_connect_terms
"Cingular PDA Connect plan: may only be used with compatible palmOne Tungsten W, palmOne Treo, Siemens SX56/66, Motorola MPx200/220, Audiovox 4100 or similar Cingular-certified devices provided that the device is not being used as a modem with other equipment (e.g., computers or ruggedized handhelds) through use of connection kits, other phone/PDA-to-computer accessories, Bluetooth?? or other wireless technology. "
Buried deep in their disclaimer.
how will they know? damn we need to do some testing. when my bill comes this month i'll let you guys know. I have only opened a couple of pages like cnet.com and google.com
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I was wondering the same thing. I really want to use this to connect to my laptop when i'm doing business on the road.
After searching and reading tons of web pages, it appears they know because the phone connects to *99# when connected to the laptop.
So they can simply pick out all the calls to data and charge you for them!!!
I explained to my GF how i could use all the unlimited data i wanted as long as it was throught the phone, and how even though it's the same speed and data, i would be charged if it was connected to the same webpage through the laptop, and she simply replied:
"thats the stupidest thing i have ever heard!"
I agreed
Hope someone comes up with a work around for this.
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After searching and reading tons of web pages, it appears they know because the phone connects to *99# when connected to the laptop.
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Last month I was testing this conectivity and I did everything but put in the dialing string. Guess what, I was still abble to use the phone as a modem for my laptop. I've seen no difference in my bill even though I gave it a full testing, e-mail websites VPN to office etc.
As long as you use the WAP apn and not the Dataconnect apn you should be ok been using it for over 2 years with no extra charges...
thanks charrog and kyphur. Can either of you explain in a bit more detail of how you connect through the laptop. I'm not really sure of how to switch apn's, or even tell which i'm using. Excuse my ignorance, but i am very new to this. Thanks again.
I have been using the modem link in the phone,and setting up a dial up on the laptop and using *99# as the number.I made no other changes in the phone. Is this ok?
i'm confused. so do i get charged with my cingular unlimited pda plan? or no?
hello
i have a pc under xp running with an Dsl modem.
on an other part i have a pocket pc.
i want to plug a dialup modem (low rate) to my pc.
and i want to connect to this dialup modem with my ppc in order to get access to Internet. do you think is it possible please?
Actually i want to build my own ISP service, i read about a RAS connexion but i am not sure.
can someone help me ?
thanx
gsm phones cant use normal analog modems to connect to
i think at least thats what my old motorola phone manual said
so using that to access the isp oldschool non grps way
the isp had to support to data gsm
re
i use a pocketpc and i read it is possible with pocketlance but i am not sure about the result in regards of the my objective (to be an isp provider for only myself) using poitn to point connection. any ideas?
I was thinking the same thing today after my broadband (lack of) problem. I am palnning to attemp something myself like this. I can tell you that it is possible and that I have in the past established a dial up connection from my ppc to my pc. It was using an audiovox rtm8000 gsm card, the gprs tool that came with it let me specify the number for gprs and when I used my home phone number to dial my pc with incoming dial up activated I was able to establish a connection and use terminal services client. This is not a practical permanent solution because the software expected the connection to behave like gprs, ie if it was inactive for a time it would quickly dissconect. I can get a telsta business plan (using my abn) that has 35c untimed calls so basically for 35c I could use my home internet unlimited - all be it at a very slow connection speed.
Yes it is possible to call a remote modem located on a windows or linux machine with a RAS installed.
However, to be able to tranfert datas, you need a data subscription in addition of your voice subcription.
KR, Imer
That depends on where you are. Here (aus) every gsm sim I have bought had csd enabled on the same number for no cost. I have had friends who were required to use a different data number but thats a thing of the past here. Thats why I am shocked to find that Telstra disable csd on the roaming service they provide to 3(three) customers - I need it!
I would have thought it would be cheaper / simpler to "tunnel" into a machine using vpn having first connected to a gprs provider, as csd (data over gsm) is allways a charged call, despite many contracts saying inclusive free calls to local numbers (in the UK anyway)
I have a windows mobile 6.1 smart phone (iPAQ 910c) that I would like to connect to the internet via a network modem Cellular Line (not Cellular Line-GPRS,3G) connection to my ISP's local 56k dial up numbers. (I don't want to pay $30 for a data plan for only occasional needs to browse when I am not near wi-fi, and I have 5 faves to use so calling the modem number costs me no air time.)
• I had no problem doing this on WM 5.0 with my iPAQ 6945 that I formerly owned.
• I can set up the same connection on my 910c, but I can not connect to my ISP. I get a general error message "cannot connect". I know the ISP number is working, because I have since connected with another 5.0 phone.
• I have tried the same connection on a few other WM 6.1 phones: the HTC Fuze and the Palm Treo. Same problem on both, so it seems a WM 6.1 issue.
I have spent several hours doing searches and reading blogs on this issue, and have found no help. Most related articles only speak of how to get a phone's GPRS connection to act as a modem for a laptop, which does not apply for my need.
I would be so thankful for any help or suggestions!
Do you have DUN installed? By default WM6 only uses "Internet Sharing", which works over a data plan. I never heard of what you did before, but if it worked in the past, it definitely used "Dial Up Networking" DUN.
You may want to install:
http://www.winmobiletech.com/sekalaiset/WM6_BT_DUN.cab
But's still not working for me...
I got this working on my Kaiser:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=473875&highlight=modem
You won't get 56K speeds though, you are limited to 9600 V.32 or V.34 modem speeds, unless the device you are calling is digital and can utilise ISDN standard V.110 in which case you can get 38400. Change the CSD line type and try....
Andy