gprs / csd? - Networking

Whats the diff between csd and gprs. Right now I created a new connection by doing start; settings; connections; connections; modify (internet settings). Under "My connection" I have it set for "cellular line (GPRS)". Under baud rate it is 19200 (why so slow?). Clicking next I have "wap.voicestream.com". This works but is really slow. Is this the correct way to use GPRS or is this CSD? If not, what is CSD? Is it better. Sorry for so many questions but I really dont know much about this. I have t-mobile in the US (southern california).

CSD (Circuit-Switched Data)
CSD is similar to your PC dialing up to a ISP / corperate modem pool for a data connection. For XDA or a cell phone in general, it consumes your air time. (If you make the CSD call during nights & weekends with T-Mobile, air time is free.) You get a 7Kbps avg narrow pipe - pulling an Internet page is very slow, but you can turn off the graphics on XDA to speed it up. GPRS is designed for data, giving you 40Kbps avg pipe, comparable to your PC dial-up speed but you have to pay T-Mobile $20/mo for unlimited data service. See thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=4723
for setup. Hope this helps.

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I'm trying to trial both IP Dashboard (HudsonMobile.com) and GPRS Monitor (Spbsoftwarehouse.com) to track my wireless data usage for 1) GPRS/EDGE and 2) WiFi. Both don't seem to fit the bill. I use Cingular USA MEdiaWorks bundle which comes with 5MB data download. I need to monitor how much wireless GPRS/EDGE data I'm downloading in a month because it gets expensive after 5MB ($0.05/KB). I also use WiFi pay-as-you-go hotspots & others which have either a daily limit of data limit. I also need to monitor my Wifo data download connection.
IP Dashboard wants you to select a network adapter for WiFi. If you go to Start-Settings-Connections tab-Network Cards ... which of the 7 network adpters is the integrated WiFi on Wizard?
GPRS Monitor does a great job on GPRS/EDGE data connections because you select the My ISP connection you setup to connection to the carrier's web. However, I don't have a WiFi connection setup in Connections under My ISP or My Work Network. Can you establish the Wizard's WiFi connection in this area?
Are there any other data monitoring software out there I should be looking at?
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GPRS

my gprs icon is permently on on my device G with the 2 arrows task manager says nothing running, will this use up my GPRS data?
Providing no app is accessing your GPRS then no. It's a bit like having your home PC connected to broadband ADSL but nothing actually downloading. The connection has been made but it's sat there idle.
Just ensure no application is running in the background.
You can, of course, click the "G" icon itself and then close the connection down.
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but if the operator is billing out idle time (T-Mobile HUN rounds up every 5/15 mins the traffic to 10kB) it's not equal then, if there is an active conn or not.
Connection via a dial-up WAP connection take the form of an actual call and are thus are billed by time. But GPRS data calls, I thought, were billed by data transferred. I often leave my GPRS connection open all day and Orange UK certainly only bill per MB.
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Dialling ISP using XDA Exec phone and internal modem

Hi guys
Using the XDA Exec on its own I am trying to dial out to my ISP using "cellular line" as a modem from the drop down list. But each time I get a message stating that there is no modem at the other number dialled.
Very frustating
Where am I going wrong?
Almost about to tear my hair out!!!
Any help with a "how to" will be greatly appreciated
Cheers
Shad786
Yes it is possible to use dial-up connection to your ISP. The Universal supports what is called "Circuit Switched Data" though this is very slow and the average data transfer rate you should expect is a mere 10kbs.
However to use this mode it is necessary that your mobile service provider supports dial up data connection. For example in my case Mobilink (Pakistan) charges a small fixed monthly fees to get this data connectivity activated. In some parts of my country where GPRS is not available I regularly use Dial Up connection without any problem. Also note that when you try to connect the moving arrows move about 7 times before the connection is established.
So ask your mobile service provider if data connection (Circuit switched data) is activated on your SIM
Hope this helps
Regards

my own ISP dialup

hello
i have a pc under xp running with an Dsl modem.
on an other part i have a pocket pc.
i want to plug a dialup modem (low rate) to my pc.
and i want to connect to this dialup modem with my ppc in order to get access to Internet. do you think is it possible please?
Actually i want to build my own ISP service, i read about a RAS connexion but i am not sure.
can someone help me ?
thanx
gsm phones cant use normal analog modems to connect to
i think at least thats what my old motorola phone manual said
so using that to access the isp oldschool non grps way
the isp had to support to data gsm
re
i use a pocketpc and i read it is possible with pocketlance but i am not sure about the result in regards of the my objective (to be an isp provider for only myself) using poitn to point connection. any ideas?
I was thinking the same thing today after my broadband (lack of) problem. I am palnning to attemp something myself like this. I can tell you that it is possible and that I have in the past established a dial up connection from my ppc to my pc. It was using an audiovox rtm8000 gsm card, the gprs tool that came with it let me specify the number for gprs and when I used my home phone number to dial my pc with incoming dial up activated I was able to establish a connection and use terminal services client. This is not a practical permanent solution because the software expected the connection to behave like gprs, ie if it was inactive for a time it would quickly dissconect. I can get a telsta business plan (using my abn) that has 35c untimed calls so basically for 35c I could use my home internet unlimited - all be it at a very slow connection speed.
Yes it is possible to call a remote modem located on a windows or linux machine with a RAS installed.
However, to be able to tranfert datas, you need a data subscription in addition of your voice subcription.
KR, Imer
That depends on where you are. Here (aus) every gsm sim I have bought had csd enabled on the same number for no cost. I have had friends who were required to use a different data number but thats a thing of the past here. Thats why I am shocked to find that Telstra disable csd on the roaming service they provide to 3(three) customers - I need it!
I would have thought it would be cheaper / simpler to "tunnel" into a machine using vpn having first connected to a gprs provider, as csd (data over gsm) is allways a charged call, despite many contracts saying inclusive free calls to local numbers (in the UK anyway)

How about RAS instead of paying extra for data plan?

I have a Mogul and my wireless is through Qwest (Sprint), as is my ADSL line at home. I would like to set up a RAS server so that when I am out of town, I can establish a dial-up connection to my home network and then hopefully have access to the Internet. Has anyone out there been successful with this setup? Is there anything about the protocols (ADSL) or implementations thereof that would prohibitive?
If you are talking about dialup via CSD, then it should be easy - you can get it working in few minutes with a recent linux distribution, with an old analog modem.
But you have to bear with 9.6k baud - except you got the expensive HSCSD (not commonly available to all operators)
And the HTC implementation of CSD is hmmm... a little too buggy.
Thanks ww2250. I'll give it a try and see what happens.

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