Dialling ISP using XDA Exec phone and internal modem - JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General

Hi guys
Using the XDA Exec on its own I am trying to dial out to my ISP using "cellular line" as a modem from the drop down list. But each time I get a message stating that there is no modem at the other number dialled.
Very frustating
Where am I going wrong?
Almost about to tear my hair out!!!
Any help with a "how to" will be greatly appreciated
Cheers
Shad786

Yes it is possible to use dial-up connection to your ISP. The Universal supports what is called "Circuit Switched Data" though this is very slow and the average data transfer rate you should expect is a mere 10kbs.
However to use this mode it is necessary that your mobile service provider supports dial up data connection. For example in my case Mobilink (Pakistan) charges a small fixed monthly fees to get this data connectivity activated. In some parts of my country where GPRS is not available I regularly use Dial Up connection without any problem. Also note that when you try to connect the moving arrows move about 7 times before the connection is established.
So ask your mobile service provider if data connection (Circuit switched data) is activated on your SIM
Hope this helps
Regards

Related

gprs / csd?

Whats the diff between csd and gprs. Right now I created a new connection by doing start; settings; connections; connections; modify (internet settings). Under "My connection" I have it set for "cellular line (GPRS)". Under baud rate it is 19200 (why so slow?). Clicking next I have "wap.voicestream.com". This works but is really slow. Is this the correct way to use GPRS or is this CSD? If not, what is CSD? Is it better. Sorry for so many questions but I really dont know much about this. I have t-mobile in the US (southern california).
CSD (Circuit-Switched Data)
CSD is similar to your PC dialing up to a ISP / corperate modem pool for a data connection. For XDA or a cell phone in general, it consumes your air time. (If you make the CSD call during nights & weekends with T-Mobile, air time is free.) You get a 7Kbps avg narrow pipe - pulling an Internet page is very slow, but you can turn off the graphics on XDA to speed it up. GPRS is designed for data, giving you 40Kbps avg pipe, comparable to your PC dial-up speed but you have to pay T-Mobile $20/mo for unlimited data service. See thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=4723
for setup. Hope this helps.

is it possible to dial into any ISP than the OS mobile net

Can anyone tell me is it possible to dial into any ISP than the OS mobile network I would like to use Btinternet or freeserve do I have to unlock the Phone to do it Thanks Dave
gprs networking is tied to whoever your cellular provider is
you can dial into any isp you choose with gsm data, but its slower.
Not only is it much slower, you will be paying per minute just like a voice call - so even when your just reading a page that you clicked on, unless you disconnect, it's costing you money. With GPRS you only pay whilst you're actually downloading data.

Connection preference settings

Hi,
I have had a search to see if this has been covered before but maybe I am using the wrong query.
I have an O2 Exec with the latest O2 Rom, and now when I do an email send and receive, the GPRS connection stays up. Whereas I could have sworn in the earlier ROM it disconnected after the send/receive.
I spoke to O2 and they assured me that it is supposed to do that, and since I only get charged for actaul data transfer, I can sit connected to GPRS all day for free (is this correct).
Now, my main question is. Say GPRS is up and connected, and I turn on WIFI or plug into my PC using the charger/sync cable and then do a send and receive. Will the Exec use these free connections or still route data over the GPRS?
I did a test and it looked as though when I did this, the GPRS connection was shut down, as after a send/receive and then disable WIFI, the connection setting showed a large U and not the connected icon.
I am now sitting with a GPRS connection active, email is set to manual and I have Pocket Weather set to 'Auto update on connection' and 'Auto update on Active Sync', but 'Use connection manager' is disabled as is 'Force a connect when not available'.
Should this mean that no data is used at all and that I can sit connected at no cost.
Sorry for the long rambling post, but I am a complete newbie to all this GPRS pda thing.
regards,
/Mad
related question - how to stop gprs connecting automatically
My wifi router at home is dodgy and sometimes the signal drops - this means my exec switches over automatically to GPRS (I'm not in a 3G area) and starts whacking up a big data bill before I realise. Is there anyway of getting it to ask me if I want to connect to GPRS - rather than it just telling me thats what its doing? Can't turn the phone off cos I still need to receive calls.
I did think of just scarmbling my connection settings, but now I've upgraded to the latest O2 rom the connections settings page does not show any existing connections! (I also can't get TomTom to run at all now but I guess I'll work through that one :-( )
Thanks,
John
I believe this is what you are looking for. Y
ou can set which connections programs use for thier internet access in Settings -> Connections -> Connections -> Advanced, Select Networks.
Choosing My Work Network or My ISP should stop programs sucking up your money.
Thanks PReDiToR I've tried that but it then gives me a 'cannot connect' popup instead of using the wifi - it seems as if there has to be an accessible gprs connection for it to ignore before it will try wifi :-o
What does everyone else do? Maybe you're all rich or the company pays for your data?
Thanks
Any luck yet with the GPRS / WiFi issue?? I have got the sam
webbyfoot said:
Thanks PReDiToR I've tried that but it then gives me a 'cannot connect' popup instead of using the wifi - it seems as if there has to be an accessible gprs connection for it to ignore before it will try wifi :-o
What does everyone else do? Maybe you're all rich or the company pays for your data?
Thanks
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Any luck yet with the GPRS / WiFi issue?? I have got the same problem
Derrr...
EDIT: Hey I've just read what I've written below and its exavctly what Preditor suggested - funny didn't work when I tried ........ I guess it was because I was trying 'My ISP' without gprs settings - which complained - whereas 'My Work Network' without gprs settings allows the wifi to connect ... :?
I've now got a workaround for this - means going through the menus every time I DO want GPRS data - but thats rare till I get a better contract which will have to wait till my 12 months with O2 is up in November.. web'n'walk sounds good - unlimited gprs :-o - (could T-Mobile really tell when I was using my XDa as a modem for my laptop - which is forbidden in the terms of this contarct - and when I was just usng data for its own programs - which is allowed ??)
Anyway what I do is settings>connections>advanced>Select Networks> choose My Work Network for programs connecting to the internet. I have no gprs settings in My Work Network but it connects to wifi no problem.
So when I forget and I'm out of wifi range I get an error that it can't connect, so change the setting back to 'MY ISP' and GPRS kicks in.
A Today Screen shortcut to the Network Management screen would help - but I'm almost always using wifi so I haven't bothered.
John

my own ISP dialup

hello
i have a pc under xp running with an Dsl modem.
on an other part i have a pocket pc.
i want to plug a dialup modem (low rate) to my pc.
and i want to connect to this dialup modem with my ppc in order to get access to Internet. do you think is it possible please?
Actually i want to build my own ISP service, i read about a RAS connexion but i am not sure.
can someone help me ?
thanx
gsm phones cant use normal analog modems to connect to
i think at least thats what my old motorola phone manual said
so using that to access the isp oldschool non grps way
the isp had to support to data gsm
re
i use a pocketpc and i read it is possible with pocketlance but i am not sure about the result in regards of the my objective (to be an isp provider for only myself) using poitn to point connection. any ideas?
I was thinking the same thing today after my broadband (lack of) problem. I am palnning to attemp something myself like this. I can tell you that it is possible and that I have in the past established a dial up connection from my ppc to my pc. It was using an audiovox rtm8000 gsm card, the gprs tool that came with it let me specify the number for gprs and when I used my home phone number to dial my pc with incoming dial up activated I was able to establish a connection and use terminal services client. This is not a practical permanent solution because the software expected the connection to behave like gprs, ie if it was inactive for a time it would quickly dissconect. I can get a telsta business plan (using my abn) that has 35c untimed calls so basically for 35c I could use my home internet unlimited - all be it at a very slow connection speed.
Yes it is possible to call a remote modem located on a windows or linux machine with a RAS installed.
However, to be able to tranfert datas, you need a data subscription in addition of your voice subcription.
KR, Imer
That depends on where you are. Here (aus) every gsm sim I have bought had csd enabled on the same number for no cost. I have had friends who were required to use a different data number but thats a thing of the past here. Thats why I am shocked to find that Telstra disable csd on the roaming service they provide to 3(three) customers - I need it!
I would have thought it would be cheaper / simpler to "tunnel" into a machine using vpn having first connected to a gprs provider, as csd (data over gsm) is allways a charged call, despite many contracts saying inclusive free calls to local numbers (in the UK anyway)

Dialup on Hermes

Man, I hope I don't get flamed here, but I have checked using the advanced google search, ect and couldn't fnd my problem, so here it is
My ISP (Telus) gives me 10 hours of dialup a month.I want to be able to use my 8525 to connect to dialup so I can check email ect from the different cities I end up.
I added a new modem connection and used the Hayes cmpatible on Com1, added the dialup number, login and password. It dials the number, waits, then gives me the cannot connect screen.
I've triple checked the settings, login and password...and still can't connect
If you know how to make it go, please share the info, I would greatly appreciate it!
digitus
digitus said:
Man, I hope I don't get flamed here, but I have checked using the advanced google search, ect and couldn't fnd my problem, so here it is
My ISP (Telus) gives me 10 hours of dialup a month.I want to be able to use my 8525 to connect to dialup so I can check email ect from the different cities I end up.
I added a new modem connection and used the Hayes cmpatible on Com1, added the dialup number, login and password. It dials the number, waits, then gives me the cannot connect screen.
I've triple checked the settings, login and password...and still can't connect
If you know how to make it go, please share the info, I would greatly appreciate it!
digitus
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Gawd even in Australia i dont think there is many using Dial-up and we have the slowest internet in the world! only 10 hours you think with the amount they will get from you using your mobile and dialup they would just give you unlimited
thats just on top of my adsl. I guess its for those who roam alot.
Still no answer to as what I am doing wronng tho, anybody???
Dialup using your 8525
Hi,
I had the same problem. To be able to connect with the 8525 you need to switch your signal to GSM and it will let you dialup. To do this I got a software called BandSwitch from Daniel Herrero Rey at www.commmprpro.com.
Good Luck,
Luis
i am also trying to use dialup on this device. I live in Canada and out data plans SUCK ASS! I have some dial up access from my ISP (bell sympatico) and i want to dial up but everytime i try to connect, it fails!
thanx for the link, I will try it now
can't seem to get it to stick to GSM mode. It switches back to auto mode right away
nonsense, bandswitch is not what he need!
some think too complicated when trying to anser such really basic question:
Create a new connection (settings/connections) and chose mobileconnection as modem (dont choose haiescompatible modem or 3g modem). then add username + passw. + dial in tel.number (which depend on your serviceprovider, if you dont know then ask him). thats all.
each time you connect to the net you will use GSM network.
If you want to use UMTS connection again you must select (switch back) to ISP connection by hand (settings/connection).

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