Hi,
I' am trying to connect two Smartphones over GPRS. At first I used TAPI to establish a connection between the two devices, but I don't want to use a CSD-connection. Then I took a look at the Connection Manager from EVC++, but I think with the Connecttion Manager you are not able to connect the two phones by there phonenumbers, like with modems or tapi.
Is it even possible to do a data call over GPRS? Or is GPRS just used to connect to the internet?
thx foobar
I had an audiovox rtm8000 and I put my home phone number into the gprs connection settings. I was able to log in with terminal services client. I don't know how it could be done using a normal phone hardware.
Thanx, for your post. Could you describe a little more what you did? Which APIs did you use?
I did not do it myself. It was a tool that came with the audiovox phone card. It only works with that card.
Questions for people using the blackberry connect software:
I want to sign up for cingular's blackberry service, especially since I am overseas more often than not for work.
(Some of these are questions, some are assumptions. just trying to get some info )
My question(s) are:
1) Blackberry connect acts as your internet connection, right?
2) Does anyone use it and get a UMTS connection instead of GPRS?
3) Does your hermes act like it has a normal connection? (in other words, if I turn on Blackberry connect, can I use other progs which use that net connection - say Flexmail 2007 or IE or somesuch)
4) Does the blackberry stuff use the existing calendar /addressbook programs on the hermes, or does it use it's own? (assuming it's own)
Thanks for the help. Wondering if I can sign up for the blackberry service and basically get a flat fee rate on data when I am in Europe, etc.
derrumbe said:
Questions for people using the blackberry connect software:
I want to sign up for cingular's blackberry service, especially since I am overseas more often than not for work.
(Some of these are questions, some are assumptions. just trying to get some info )
My question(s) are:
1) Blackberry connect acts as your internet connection, right?
2) Does anyone use it and get a UMTS connection instead of GPRS?
3) Does your hermes act like it has a normal connection? (in other words, if I turn on Blackberry connect, can I use other progs which use that net connection - say Flexmail 2007 or IE or somesuch)
4) Does the blackberry stuff use the existing calendar /addressbook programs on the hermes, or does it use it's own? (assuming it's own)
Thanks for the help. Wondering if I can sign up for the blackberry service and basically get a flat fee rate on data when I am in Europe, etc.
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1. BB Connect uses your internet connection.
2. BB Connect only connects while under a GPRS/GSM/EDGE connection. In other words, you will need to force your connection or while in a GPRS area to use GSM only. You can do this within the connection Band settings.
3. You can use the internet connection from any program while BB Connect is running. However, Since BB Connect is a lower priority connection, applications like pIE, etc. will take a higher priority over BB Connect and force the BB Connect client to idle while it waits for the connection. This is an automatic process.
4. BB Connect will uses the built in PIM applications (Pocket Outlook, etc.)
Cingular has a few Blackberry plans including a unlimited plan.
thanks for the response.
So that doesn't sound as good as I was hoping.
I was hoping that Blackberry would be a conduit for the rest of my applications to use, instead of being one of many apps using one network connection.
So much for cost savings and/or surfing the net via blackberry connect.
derrumbe said:
thanks for the response.
So that doesn't sound as good as I was hoping.
I was hoping that Blackberry would be a conduit for the rest of my applications to use, instead of being one of many apps using one network connection.
So much for cost savings and/or surfing the net via blackberry connect.
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I am assuming I understand your connection question. BB Connect is no different then other applications that use a internet connection. BB Connect uses the internet connection to connect and pull down mail. Other apps don't use BB Connect to get a connection. If you have a BB plan, that will allow you to have a connection not only for email, but for any app (i.e. Internet Explorer)
hmmm... interesting point.
What you are saying is that from cing's point of view, my device would be a "blackberry" although it would actually be a hermes.
What I would have to figure out is if cingular filters out connections so that you can only connect to the blackberry server....
derrumbe said:
hmmm... interesting point.
What you are saying is that from cing's point of view, my device would be a "blackberry" although it would actually be a hermes.
What I would have to figure out is if cingular filters out connections so that you can only connect to the blackberry server....
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That's correct. Cingular has no idea nor cares what device you are using. They actually sell devices like the Nokia E62 (BB Connect preinstalled) and Treo 650 which has the BB Connect software available for download.
brmcguire said:
1. BB Connect uses your internet connection.
2. BB Connect only connects while under a GPRS/GSM/EDGE connection. In other words, you will need to force your connection or while in a GPRS area to use GSM only. You can do this within the connection Band settings.
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Interesting, so BB Connect or the BB network is not compatible with UMTS? What are the symptoms BB Connect displays when UMTS is active?
I played around with this yesterday on cingular USA, but could not get the Connect software to connect, instead it would say network available then fall back to "suspended by user". BIS account creation wouldn't recognize my PIN&IMEI combo.
Thought this was a show stopper, but perhaps it's not.
Thanks
yeah, it only works with GSM - you have to force the band away from utms.
if you go over on howard forums and look in the cingular section, you can find info - I think that I saw that error mentioned....
mooney6023 said:
Interesting, so BB Connect or the BB network is not compatible with UMTS? What are the symptoms BB Connect displays when UMTS is active?
I played around with this yesterday on cingular USA, but could not get the Connect software to connect, instead it would say network available then fall back to "suspended by user". BIS account creation wouldn't recognize my PIN&IMEI combo.
Thought this was a show stopper, but perhaps it's not.
Thanks
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When BB Connect is fully connected to the BES/BIS it will display 4 dots. For some reason, and I don't know why is that the BB Connect client doesn't like a UMTS connection. It might have todo with how GPRS/GSM holds a connection. Here is a handy link for connection status indications.
As far as the BIS registration, you will need to create a NEW account on the Cingular BIS site. Then you will be able to register your device and BB Connect.
http://www.dopodasia.com/resource/sea/bbc_web/connection.html
derrumbe said:
3) Does your hermes act like it has a normal connection? (in other words, if I turn on Blackberry connect, can I use other progs which use that net connection - say Flexmail 2007 or IE or somesuch)
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No personal experience, but folks on HoFo say BB Connect is killing the internet connection for other programs like PIE:
http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=1044755
Richard
rsolomon said:
No personal experience, but folks on HoFo say BB Connect is killing the internet connection for other programs like PIE:
http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=1044755
Richard
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Hi there, sorry to be so unspecific, but at least I wanted to share my experience
German O2 XDA/HERMES recent, used in Belgium with a Company BB service from Proximus, using BB connect 2.16 usually via UMTS, but when roaming also via GPRS; never forced it to GSM.
It is very slow! so you need to be patient; 1 min waiting until everything has re-connected is not unusual.
I remember that I had the same issue of BB Connect monopolizing the internet connection so that Skype not even started and IE was not able to connect to the internet neither.
After a cold reset and re-installation of everything it works now to expectations:
BB C is usually always on and on UMTS
When starting IE, a pop up apprears saying, connecting to ...
that's when BBC goes 'offline' Symbol :!
I can then surf the Internet
You must TERMINATE IE, not just leave it running in the background
After some time, BBC will automatically re-connect. If you try to speed up, it will complain that the connection is still blocked by another program.
I believe that BB C creates another hidden connection which is not visible in the connection folder, but if you use fit4cat, there is a tweak for 'force connection always on' and there I can see Blackberry as connection
I did not notice any handling difference between UMTS or GPRS.
HOWEVER
I have another problem as following:
I carefully checked the BB C services, but I cannot get any synchronisation of deleted mails, neither when I deletem them on the Desktop, nor when I deleted them on the Mobile.
Any experience with that ??
Rgds
hk.
I'm using BB Connect with a Vario II on TMUK.
When BB Service is on, I am connected through the blackberry.net APN, but via UMTS. If I want to browse, check POP3 email or do anything else, I have to be connected through the TMUK Internet Access Point, which is how I access Web 'N Walk and my unlimited data allowance. This, of course, interrupts my BB connection.
I believe it should be possible to use the blackberry.net APN for web-surfing as well because on RIM devices, all data goes through the BB APN. However, if I try to manually set up a new connection with the blackberry.net APN and route data traffic through it, it doesn't work.
So, not quite sure, but it should be possible to use the blackberry bundle on whatever network as the conduit for data traffic that one of the posters here was referring to - might just need a chat with tech support at your network.
Dave
other post says BBC does not support MDS, so you cannot surf using blackberry.net (not sure what MDS is, but guess it is in a real BB)
also can confirm that I have to suspend the Blackberry GPRS/EDGE connection before IE and POP3 mail will work - both GPRS connections (Blackberry and normal GPRS) are active, but the Blasckberry one seems to have priority
using HTC P3300 and TMO BBC client 2.1.2.31
ive been using BBConnect on both the XDA Exec and the V1605 for well over a year, it will connect to the BB Server using whatever PHONE network band is available e.g. UMTS if in a good Vodafone signal area or it will step back to GPRS if it doesnt, there are issues when roaming on other networks which will not pass through the BB connection so for example when in Germany on a supposed Roaming Partners network BB doesnt connect. I just have to force the Phone to try to connect to VF which then obviously works albeit a low speed connection. as for using PIE whenever I try to connect it disconnects the BB Connection and connects again using the VF connection, I agree this is a bit @rse as you would have thought the applicaitons could see that there is a usable connection there and should therefore utilise it..
If anyone knows of a registry setting that can be modified to fix the connection hopping I would be interested.
Problem with BB C on Tytn
Hi, I downloaded the BB c software from Voda.de, and installed it onto my Tytn with WM5. the instalation and registering to the network was fine.
but I cant do e-mail set up... it's grayed out and I cant click it...
I also tried registering/creating an account through mobileemail.vodafone.net,
but to no avail. after I input IMEI and PIN, then create Usename and password, I get the notice, "The system has encounted an error".
I thought I might have wrong software, and to keep things simple I put WM6(Official rom from HTC) into handset, then put BB C 4 for WM6, (again from Voda.de) but to no avail. same situation.
the phone connects to BB GPRS/3G, it shows PIN, IMEI, IP.
so connection wise there doesn't seem to be problem.
but cant create an account...
anyone come across same problem??
I've been trying to figgure this out for like three days now.
Thanks to those who'll give me advice!!
BR
Timmy-Boy
Timmy-Boy said:
Hi, I downloaded the BB c software from Voda.de, and installed it onto my Tytn with WM5. the instalation and registering to the network was fine.
but I cant do e-mail set up... it's grayed out and I cant click it...
I also tried registering/creating an account through mobileemail.vodafone.net,
but to no avail. after I input IMEI and PIN, then create Usename and password, I get the notice, "The system has encounted an error".
I thought I might have wrong software, and to keep things simple I put WM6(Official rom from HTC) into handset, then put BB C 4 for WM6, (again from Voda.de) but to no avail. same situation.
the phone connects to BB GPRS/3G, it shows PIN, IMEI, IP.
so connection wise there doesn't seem to be problem.
but cant create an account...
anyone come across same problem??
I've been trying to figgure this out for like three days now.
Thanks to those who'll give me advice!!
BR
Timmy-Boy
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try this....
1) Change device ID, from Start -> Settings -> System -> About -> Device ID to HTC_TyTN
2) Edit your registry: HKLM\System\Versions\AKU key, change the key from (1.0.0) or whatever in there to .0.4.2
lve0200 said:
I have another problem as following:
I carefully checked the BB C services, but I cannot get any synchronisation of deleted mails, neither when I deletem them on the Desktop, nor when I deleted them on the Mobile.
Any experience with that ??
Rgds
hk.
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As he mentioned above I have the same problem. For regular Blackberry devices they give the advice to check the options on the messaging screen and there is setting to choose delete on handheld, both, or prompt, But I could not find any such setting in the BB client for WM6.1
BB Client is 4.0.0.97, desktop software is 4.0.0.18
Any advices?
!!! SOLVED !!!
1. Tap Start > Settings.
2. Tap the System tab.
3. Tap the BlackBerry icon.
4. Tap the Services tab.
5. Tap the BlackBerry [CMIME] service book
6. Tap the Synchronization tab.
7. Select the Enable Wireless Synchronization check box.
8. From the Conflicts drop‐down list, tap an option.
9. From the Delete on drop-down list, tap an option.
I have a windows mobile 6.1 smart phone (iPAQ 910c) that I would like to connect to the internet via a network modem Cellular Line (not Cellular Line-GPRS,3G) connection to my ISP's local 56k dial up numbers. (I don't want to pay $30 for a data plan for only occasional needs to browse when I am not near wi-fi, and I have 5 faves to use so calling the modem number costs me no air time.)
• I had no problem doing this on WM 5.0 with my iPAQ 6945 that I formerly owned.
• I can set up the same connection on my 910c, but I can not connect to my ISP. I get a general error message "cannot connect". I know the ISP number is working, because I have since connected with another 5.0 phone.
• I have tried the same connection on a few other WM 6.1 phones: the HTC Fuze and the Palm Treo. Same problem on both, so it seems a WM 6.1 issue.
I have spent several hours doing searches and reading blogs on this issue, and have found no help. Most related articles only speak of how to get a phone's GPRS connection to act as a modem for a laptop, which does not apply for my need.
I would be so thankful for any help or suggestions!
Do you have DUN installed? By default WM6 only uses "Internet Sharing", which works over a data plan. I never heard of what you did before, but if it worked in the past, it definitely used "Dial Up Networking" DUN.
You may want to install:
http://www.winmobiletech.com/sekalaiset/WM6_BT_DUN.cab
But's still not working for me...
I got this working on my Kaiser:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=473875&highlight=modem
You won't get 56K speeds though, you are limited to 9600 V.32 or V.34 modem speeds, unless the device you are calling is digital and can utilise ISDN standard V.110 in which case you can get 38400. Change the CSD line type and try....
Andy
Hi,
I have a problem, while I share internet connection and make a phone call the phone change the connection technology form HSDPA to GPRS. How can I disable this function because I want to use fast internet connection even when I make phone call?
Using GPRS should not disable a HSPA connection. You can still browse the internet whilst on a phone call, which is exactly that.
You mentioned sharing the internet connection. Are you saying that you want to use the internet connection from your phone on another device whilst you're making a call?
I share the internet connection to my pc. I usually use vnc client through vpn tunnel and make phone call to describe something to my client. When the conversation starts the connection is changed form hsdpa to gprs. Gprs is too slow for vnc or remote desktop so I need HSDPA.
I know I can use GPRS and HSDPA or 3G at the same time, so this may be an issue with your network provider. Personally, I don't think this info will help me help you in the slightest, but it may help someone else help you...
What network are you with?
Is (was) your phone locked?
Where are you?
That info may well be relevant, as I do know that some setups can mean that you can only use one connection at a time, whereas most mean you can use multiple connections.
I'm form Poland and my operator is orange pl. What is strange hd2 is my second htc device. Previous device tytn II works without any problems also in orange network.
I have a question as well! I'm on tmobile and I live in south florida and I cant talk and use Internet at the same time, why not?
Turn off the Autodisconnect option. i had the same problem, as long this was turned on.
where can I find this option?
i had a problem when i was on a call. my Msn will disconnect after a few mins of call. any idea how to stay connect ?