GPRS Internet connection shared with laptop - Networking

I've seen a lot of postings about how to use Wizards as dialup modems, either via Bluetooth or USB, and I presume that this allows making a dialled GPRS connection from the latop but does not allow the phone to access the internet at the same time? (Does it also block voice calls on the phone?)
I'd like to know if there is any way to use a currently active "T-Mobile Internet" unlimited GPRS connection on my device (which now stays on most of the time) to allow access to the internet from a USB-connected laptop?
Just to occasionally test the theory of course, not really allowed to use laptops with this tarif...
Andre

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GPRS Question

GPRS is new territory for me. I'm planning to apply for a GPRS acct with my telco
I'm afraid that once I've configured the settings for internet via GPRS from my telco, it will always use GPRS whenever I want to connect to the internet.
How do I switch back to normal mode when I'm at home and accessing the internet thru ActiveSync?
On my EXTENDED_ROM, there is a file called vodafone.CAB which will configure my phone with Vodafone settings (I'm with Vodafone). Whenever I run that file (after a hard reset), I cannot access the internet via ActiveSync. Everytime I run PIE, it always defaults to GPRS.
I don't know how to switch to use internet via activesync once I'm on the GPRS plan and then switch back to GPRS when I'm not at home.
If you are concerned about it using GPRS once you are connected to ActiveSync you could always switch to flight mode. Not ideal, I admit, if you use your phone alot and don't like it being turned off.
I had two profiles on mine, one GPRS and one dial up. Even when I set the default to the dial up (CSD) it still tried to use GPRS. Fault with my pocket PC only? maybe. What was strange was that even after I deleted the GPRS profile and soft reset it still was using GPRS! I had to hard reset in the end.
So, I would backup your pocket PC before installing the GPRS profiles.
If you have a large bandwidth then it probably won't matter to you but if not I would definately install a bandwidth monitor as you may also find that some apps you install may also try to periodically get internet access.
The problem with Windows Mobile 2003 is that you can't seem to tell it to ask you first. Microsoft seem to think that you either want GPRS on permanently or don't use it at all. I am sure there are a lot of people out there who just want to use it from time to time. If an app wants internet it just goes and gets it!
Having said that, even with CSD, it will still dial out when it wants. To get around that problem I created 2 profiles, one of which doesn't have a userid and password. I set the default profile to the one without userid. That way if something tries to get internet access it first asks the user to enter their userid and password - in effect it safeguards against a rogue dial out.
I personally don't use GPRS as I found out that my CSD access will use my free minutes. Since I hardly use my phone for voice calls I may as well make use of the free minutes for internet access.
Ok did some searching around ppcsg, apparently you can turn off GRPS by pressing the RED button (the disconnect talk button) and holding it for a few seconds.
Or use this tool
http://www.pocketpcfreeware.com/en/index.php?soft=1123
Question is whether once the GPRS is turned off, will internet access be automatically be directed to the ActiveSync connection (assuming I'm connected via ActiveSync)
To use internet via AS you should configure 'my work network' correctly under the 'connections' settings. The 'my isp' connection is meant for dial-up & gprs access to the internet.
Sadly can't tell how to do it in detail as my magician is my wireless modem & at work the connection isn't allowed. Maybe the help files are of any use in this.
Cheers, M
yes, mine, just automatically uses my internet connection thro' my PC with AS, but as soon as I disconnect from my PC, my Qtek switches over to GPRS.. which is pretty cool.
dood, care to share how you achieve this?
I suppose the question is, if you are connected to a PC which is on the internet, why would you want internet access on the Magician anyway? Why not just use Thunderbird or other web browser?
Outlook will sync the inbox for e-mail when connected via activesync...
The joy of surfing the net while watching TV lying on the bed..can't really do that wth a laptop..too heavy

Using only Wifi

How do you select what network connection to use? 99% of the time I only ever want the phone to connect to the internet over Wifi (or bluetooth/cable connection to the computer) and not using Cingular's network. There is the occasional time that I would like to enable that but most of the time I want to only use the Wifi. Where can I set so it doesn't connect to Cingular accidentally (say if I'm out of Wifi range or hit the wrong button) so i don't get large data charges?
Thanks
In connexion option set default internet connexion as "my work network" and privat network default as "my work network" as well.
So lemme just confirm something - unless I configure server settings on the a HTC TyTN (using stock rom) on the Cingular network - it will not be able to use Cingulars network right? The only time I will be able to access the internet with the phone is over wifi, bluetooth connection (or USB) with an internet enabled computer. Otherwise the internet will not function and I will not be charged data charges correct?
I don't really ever find myself using the internet on a phone when I'm away from home so I can't justify the expense of the data service but I work on a few websites that I'd like to look good on a cellphone so that's my main reason for wanting internet access on it - so while I'm at work I can log into the wifi system and test the site while I'm tweaking the code.
Am I correct in assuming that I shouldn't be charged under this situation?
Hi, I'm on Vodafone and I made the changes fun_key posted without noting down the original settings. Please can someone tell me what the default settings are for internet connection and private network connection. Thanks

my own ISP dialup

hello
i have a pc under xp running with an Dsl modem.
on an other part i have a pocket pc.
i want to plug a dialup modem (low rate) to my pc.
and i want to connect to this dialup modem with my ppc in order to get access to Internet. do you think is it possible please?
Actually i want to build my own ISP service, i read about a RAS connexion but i am not sure.
can someone help me ?
thanx
gsm phones cant use normal analog modems to connect to
i think at least thats what my old motorola phone manual said
so using that to access the isp oldschool non grps way
the isp had to support to data gsm
re
i use a pocketpc and i read it is possible with pocketlance but i am not sure about the result in regards of the my objective (to be an isp provider for only myself) using poitn to point connection. any ideas?
I was thinking the same thing today after my broadband (lack of) problem. I am palnning to attemp something myself like this. I can tell you that it is possible and that I have in the past established a dial up connection from my ppc to my pc. It was using an audiovox rtm8000 gsm card, the gprs tool that came with it let me specify the number for gprs and when I used my home phone number to dial my pc with incoming dial up activated I was able to establish a connection and use terminal services client. This is not a practical permanent solution because the software expected the connection to behave like gprs, ie if it was inactive for a time it would quickly dissconect. I can get a telsta business plan (using my abn) that has 35c untimed calls so basically for 35c I could use my home internet unlimited - all be it at a very slow connection speed.
Yes it is possible to call a remote modem located on a windows or linux machine with a RAS installed.
However, to be able to tranfert datas, you need a data subscription in addition of your voice subcription.
KR, Imer
That depends on where you are. Here (aus) every gsm sim I have bought had csd enabled on the same number for no cost. I have had friends who were required to use a different data number but thats a thing of the past here. Thats why I am shocked to find that Telstra disable csd on the roaming service they provide to 3(three) customers - I need it!
I would have thought it would be cheaper / simpler to "tunnel" into a machine using vpn having first connected to a gprs provider, as csd (data over gsm) is allways a charged call, despite many contracts saying inclusive free calls to local numbers (in the UK anyway)

Basic query - wireless internet settings 02 Atom

Apologies but I am verynew to the Atom and networking. Could somebody please assist with a simple to follow list of steps for me to connect to the internet at an internet cafe. I turn on the wifi and it will generally stay on for a short time but when I try to use internet explorer to get to gmail (or any other site) it comes back with a message that the connection was lost. I know there was no problem with the wireless connection in the cafe as my pc was downloading at the time. many thanks
Hi,
First of all, are you able to connect to the Internet from your device at home?
....or is it the case that you don't have an access point at home and simply want to connect to the Internet from an Internet cafe or WiFi hotspot?
Generally, if you have correctly configured (set-up) your Atom correctly, to connect, using WiFi, that setup should still work outside of your home, assuming you have a free WiFi hotspot. The only difference being that this time, it is not using your own access point. All you need to do is simply to connect (as you were doing).
The same goes with an Internet cafe, as long as the routers in the Internet cafe are setup to allow connectivity from un-named devices (such as your Atom), in adition to connectivity from their own specific computers (hence you were able to download, using the computers at the Internet Cafe).
The keyword here is OPEN - be it at an Internet cafe, WiFi hotspot or whatever. It's got to be open (and free), before you can connect and surf the Internet, like you were trying to do.
Failing that, you'll have to subscribe to the service provider before you can use their WiFi hotspot (e.g. at an Internet cafe, Macdonald's, hotel, airport) or any other public place.
Your device should be able to see all nearby networks. It should also indicate the strength of the signal according to the number of bars next to the network. Additionally, it will show, by way of a padlock, that it is a secure network. No padlock means it is an open one.
If there are open networks within your vicinity that do not require authentication, with a strong signal, then all you need to do is to click connect and you're on - away and surfing.
However, if the signal is weak, (assuming that it does not require authentication), then, you simply would not be able to connect to that network.
Try and figure out from here, as to why you weren't able to connect at the Internet Cafe.
Hope this helps.
kiwi992.

Trouble getting wifi and gprs connections to behave

Hi,
I've got a Touch Cruise 09, having upgraded from the original Touch Cruise. With that old phone, I had it configured (somehow) to use a Wifi connection as default, but if there was no current wifi connection it would initiate a data connection to my cell provider. That way, when at home or work I could manually connect to a wifi AP then browse the net, download email, etc over that connection, but when I was out and about it would start a data connection.
But with this new Touch Cruise, I can't get it to use wifi for syncing email. Even if I have a wifi connection, it initiates a gprs data connection. (This works, but it costs me). It does however behave like the old phone for browsing the net using Opera.
So basically, how do you assign what connections different programs use? The whole My Work and Internet concepts have always confused me on WM/WinCE devices, but I suspect its something to do with that.
BTW, I'm using MS Windows Live to do the email syncing... I've got a hotmail email address. But I can't find anywhere in the Win Live setup to specify the connection.
Anyway, thanks for any help!
Hey,
Is it that you do not want to use your data connection at all? Because if that is the case you can use a program called "NoData". On my phone I just use my WiFi connection and no GPRS or any other kind of data connection (I am a cheap ass user).
Grtz
Nope, I want to use wifi for when I'm at home, and cell phone data fro when I'm out and about.
At the moment it ALWAYS initiates a cell data connection, even if I'm at home and have a working wifi connection open.
My old phone used the wifi if it was there, or would then start a data connection. The new one doesn't.

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