GPRS Question - JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General

GPRS is new territory for me. I'm planning to apply for a GPRS acct with my telco
I'm afraid that once I've configured the settings for internet via GPRS from my telco, it will always use GPRS whenever I want to connect to the internet.
How do I switch back to normal mode when I'm at home and accessing the internet thru ActiveSync?
On my EXTENDED_ROM, there is a file called vodafone.CAB which will configure my phone with Vodafone settings (I'm with Vodafone). Whenever I run that file (after a hard reset), I cannot access the internet via ActiveSync. Everytime I run PIE, it always defaults to GPRS.
I don't know how to switch to use internet via activesync once I'm on the GPRS plan and then switch back to GPRS when I'm not at home.

If you are concerned about it using GPRS once you are connected to ActiveSync you could always switch to flight mode. Not ideal, I admit, if you use your phone alot and don't like it being turned off.
I had two profiles on mine, one GPRS and one dial up. Even when I set the default to the dial up (CSD) it still tried to use GPRS. Fault with my pocket PC only? maybe. What was strange was that even after I deleted the GPRS profile and soft reset it still was using GPRS! I had to hard reset in the end.
So, I would backup your pocket PC before installing the GPRS profiles.
If you have a large bandwidth then it probably won't matter to you but if not I would definately install a bandwidth monitor as you may also find that some apps you install may also try to periodically get internet access.
The problem with Windows Mobile 2003 is that you can't seem to tell it to ask you first. Microsoft seem to think that you either want GPRS on permanently or don't use it at all. I am sure there are a lot of people out there who just want to use it from time to time. If an app wants internet it just goes and gets it!
Having said that, even with CSD, it will still dial out when it wants. To get around that problem I created 2 profiles, one of which doesn't have a userid and password. I set the default profile to the one without userid. That way if something tries to get internet access it first asks the user to enter their userid and password - in effect it safeguards against a rogue dial out.
I personally don't use GPRS as I found out that my CSD access will use my free minutes. Since I hardly use my phone for voice calls I may as well make use of the free minutes for internet access.

Ok did some searching around ppcsg, apparently you can turn off GRPS by pressing the RED button (the disconnect talk button) and holding it for a few seconds.
Or use this tool
http://www.pocketpcfreeware.com/en/index.php?soft=1123
Question is whether once the GPRS is turned off, will internet access be automatically be directed to the ActiveSync connection (assuming I'm connected via ActiveSync)

To use internet via AS you should configure 'my work network' correctly under the 'connections' settings. The 'my isp' connection is meant for dial-up & gprs access to the internet.
Sadly can't tell how to do it in detail as my magician is my wireless modem & at work the connection isn't allowed. Maybe the help files are of any use in this.
Cheers, M

yes, mine, just automatically uses my internet connection thro' my PC with AS, but as soon as I disconnect from my PC, my Qtek switches over to GPRS.. which is pretty cool.

dood, care to share how you achieve this?

I suppose the question is, if you are connected to a PC which is on the internet, why would you want internet access on the Magician anyway? Why not just use Thunderbird or other web browser?
Outlook will sync the inbox for e-mail when connected via activesync...

The joy of surfing the net while watching TV lying on the bed..can't really do that wth a laptop..too heavy

Related

Why can't some apps establish a gprs/umts connection ?

When I use total commander's ftp client to connect to an ftp server , total commander itself is not able to establish a gprs/umts connection. I must already be connected (for example open pocket ie before I start ftp) to get it to work. This strange behavior I have also seen in other applications (i.e. pocketirc cannot connect to an irc server if I don't start pocket IE before). Why is that so ? And what can I do about it ?
I had the same problem when I started using ThunderHawk. I had to open Pocket IE to get a connection, close it and then open ThunderHawwk.
Using the always-on GPRS in the wiki (http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Universal_Registry) solved that issue for me.
Hopefully, that will work for ftp, as well. Let us know.
Boinger
what does that always on registry hack REALLY do ? Does that mean my phone will have a constant GPRS connection ? Does that not mean I must not forget to disconnect manually when I close the phone? Will that not increase the traffic ?
It is kind of an all or nothing deal. If you have ANY programs that can access GPRS data, this hack will allow it. Also, be aware that if you manually disconnect, the connection will automatically re-establish 5-10 sec later while using this hack.
As an example, I use PocketWeather, which I have setup to update every hour. It will update using GPRS if it is not Activesync-ing, every single hour of every day. If you have to pay for data by the amount used, it may not be attractive. I have an unlimited use plan through T-mobile USA for $20/month, so I just don't have to worry.
Other than this hack, I believe you will have to connect the hard way.
Strangely enough, my old PDA phone (hp 6315) would connect just fine with ThunderHawk. It also had a choice under the taskbar 'Connectivity' pop-up bubble for 'GPRS (T-Mobile)' that I could use to easily connect or disconnect. My Jasjar only lists 'T-Zones GPRS (GPRS, 3G)' in the pop-up only when it is connected. So, I suspect that the issue is either with WM5 or T-Mobile added something to the ROM of the 6315 to make it more functional with their network.

Ask for confirmation before connecting to GPRS

Hi all,
I've got my Qtek 9000 since a week and it's a dream-device.
I've got a small "problem". When I connect through WiFi to the internet and I Sign-in to MSN, after a period, I disconnect and it often happens that my device automatically connects to GPRS (costs me €€!!) without asking me... :? I guess that's MSN who tries to connect again to the internet.
I was thinking about 2 different possible solutions, but they are only workarounds. I created a dummy GPRS-connection through IrDa that is set as default. When MSN want to connect now, it does not cost me €€
I could also use a Taskmanager to kill the MSN en Internet Explorer after using WiFi, but isn't there a clean way to ask before connection to GPRS?
Thanks in advance!
Sam
Try using an app manager or menu system (I use SmallMenu from Tillanosoft) to kill MSN PROPERLY - using the WM5 "ok" button merely puts it into the background so it'll still attempt to connect.
the dummy GPRS connection is a reasonable idea though.
You could use "GB-SOFT Tweak". It has an option to "Turn off GPRS if device not used for xxxx (h:m)" and another one to show a disconnect button in the GPRS bubble.
That way you can choose when to turn GPRS off. Saved me some €€ already
Free download at http://www.gb-soft.cz/XDAII/products.htm
(No, I don't own any shares in that company :wink: )
itoma
You could use "GB-SOFT Tweak". It has an option to "Turn off GPRS if device not used for xxxx (h:m)" and another one to show a disconnect button in the GPRS bubble.
That way you can choose when to turn GPRS off. Saved me some €€ already
Free download at http://www.gb-soft.cz/XDAII/products.htm
(No, I don't own any shares in that company :wink: )
itoma
Hi all,
This one does about the same as I suggestied with the dummy connection:
http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/index.php?blog=3&p=596&more=1
Sam

GPRS keeps auto connecting, chowing battery

I have SPB pocket plus on my prophet (latest dopod rom)...
Is it possible to make it that I have to manually connect GPRS (other than going via control panel), other than letting it connect whenever it damnwell pleases? It eats the battery alive with GPRS simply staying on and idle like that!
Regarding SPB, is it possible to put an icon to connect to a SPECIFIC GPRS connection in there? With SPB gprs monitor, there is an icon, yes, but it only connects to the DEFAULT gprs connection. Also, once you click disconnect, it simply reconnects again in 20sec for some reason.
Thx
howzit, my china
i don't know of anything allowing a quick shortcut to connect/dc your GPRS, but what i've done is set my preferred networks to My ISP (which is one of the default profiles, IIRC) and My Work Network. this way, the GPRS _never_ connects, unless i specifically, and deliberately, manually connect. i very rarely require GPRS (i always use wireless networks - they're abundant here in germany), so by taking the GPRS profile out of my preferred networks, i don't have to worry about it connecting without my knowledge, clocking up crazy costs. crazy!
my question to you, though, is what is trying to connect so frequently? have you set your email accounts to check for new mail every few minutes? i'd have a look at your settings and make sure.
other than that, i can't think of much else...
later, my broe broe
(sorry, can't resisit being stereotypically south african, given the chance...)
lol, "ja swaer"
i've also made a dummy connection that doesnt work, so GPRS doesnt auto connect now unless i manually connect, but it's a schlepp to do it everytime...
If u do search guys maybe u can find everything u want,
However;
try this
http://www.gb-soft.cz/XDAII/product_gprs_tweak_en.htm :wink:

VPN, best practices and wifi in general

Hi, Ive just got an imate JAMin after a 3 year break from the Pocket PC world and im very impressed but I have a few questions.
1) VPN, how do you actually connect to it? I have enterd all the details to connect to my windows VPN server but as far as I can see the only way to initiate the connection is to tap hold on the VPN in connection manager and select connect. But it also never does anything.
2) Is there any way to select if the wireless uses b or g mode or is it totally automatic? I would like to leave it in b only mode to save power.
3) My setup is as follows. Wireless at home directly connected to the internet, wireless at work on our lan which also offers internet access. I would like to know whats the best way to setup my connections? Should I say my wireless is on the work network or on the internet? I want connections no matter where I am to always use the wifi first and then if it cant connect to use the GPRS connection. The way I have done it is to convigure everything to use my work network and added a GPRS connection to that. so the 'My ISP' option isnt even used any more.
Many Thanks for any assistance you can offer.

Disallow mobile connections

Hi,
is there any possibility to disallow your win mo device (touch hd) connecting to the mobile internet even if you for example click on "send/receive" in mail? The only way to stop this that I found out is switching off phone in com manager...
I use wm 6.5 by miri.
By the way my mail program even wants to connect to mobile internet if I've wifi switched on - and mobile internet is quite expensive for me...
Do a search for "NoData", this will install a wee utlility that will enable you to disable your GPRS connection, thus leaving the phone on but no data.
I solved this by setting that only "my" network group of connections was allowed to connect to the internet and in that group I put all my WiFi access points and hotspots.
Everytime I flash my rom though, my phone is quick to waste a couple of € by autoconnecting before I finish setting everything up.
I solved this by setting that only "my" network group of connections was allowed to connect to the internet and in that group I put all my WiFi access points and hotspots.
Everytime I flash my rom though, my phone is quick to waste a couple of € by autoconnecting before I finish setting everything up.
Nodata won't fonction on my device (Rhodium), it crashes when I start it.
Any idea why?
I've got CF 3.5 installed on my device.
In any case, I travel a lot and I have no use for data on the cellphone network so I haven't set it up at all.
I'm assuming my phone won't find which server to use on it's own right?
Pat
Why don't you just remove the internet connection settings if you NEVER want to connect?
Oh wait -- you just said you do not have it set up at all. Now I am confused. Does your phone still establish a connection DESPITE the fact that you do not have it set up (no apn etc)?

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