I've got it to work once, and not sure how, but I want to use my WiFi Connection while my PDA is docked so I can use Pocket Controller and access it with my desktop.
Here's my situation. at work, our connection is locked down, but we have WiFi for visiting clients, that's wide open, I like to use Agile Messenger to chat with my friends but can only do so using the open WiFi, but I want to use my keyboard and monitor on my desktop so I connect to my pda using pocket controller.
The thing is... when I connect to wifi it works, then when I dock, my PDA creates a network conenction with my desktop, and it becomes primary, this kicking me off agile messenger... I've tried docking then wifi...same results
I'm running Windows Mobile 2005, windows xp and Active Sync 4.1
I've turned off all active sync connection settings, but I still need my pda to make a network connection with my desktop thus I can use pocket controller to controll and view it.
ideas?
On ActiveSync Options->Rules change Pass Through Connection to be "Work". Quite appropriate in this case ;-)
I have yet to test this, but in theroy.. or atleast my attempt to grasp the concept..
The USB/Data connection between my desktop/PDA via active sync will then only really be a bridge to my PC, and any and all Internet traffic will then travel through WiFi, as it will become the primary/only "Internet" enabled connection.
Sound right?
Yep, I really dislike the way WM has the concept of Internet and Work and even more hate the way that this cludge has been used by operators like O2 to provide an Internet GPRS account (Internet) and a WAP GPRS account (Work).
What I suggested definately works on 2003, but if your operator does the same as O2, you won't be able to receive MMSs.
kevino said:
On ActiveSync Options->Rules change Pass Through Connection to be "Work". Quite appropriate in this case ;-)
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I have activesync 4.1 with a window mobile 5 device, but I can't find this option...
I would like to keep my GPRS-connection open when i'm connected to my PC. But the same problem over here as the topicstarter
GPRS is new territory for me. I'm planning to apply for a GPRS acct with my telco
I'm afraid that once I've configured the settings for internet via GPRS from my telco, it will always use GPRS whenever I want to connect to the internet.
How do I switch back to normal mode when I'm at home and accessing the internet thru ActiveSync?
On my EXTENDED_ROM, there is a file called vodafone.CAB which will configure my phone with Vodafone settings (I'm with Vodafone). Whenever I run that file (after a hard reset), I cannot access the internet via ActiveSync. Everytime I run PIE, it always defaults to GPRS.
I don't know how to switch to use internet via activesync once I'm on the GPRS plan and then switch back to GPRS when I'm not at home.
If you are concerned about it using GPRS once you are connected to ActiveSync you could always switch to flight mode. Not ideal, I admit, if you use your phone alot and don't like it being turned off.
I had two profiles on mine, one GPRS and one dial up. Even when I set the default to the dial up (CSD) it still tried to use GPRS. Fault with my pocket PC only? maybe. What was strange was that even after I deleted the GPRS profile and soft reset it still was using GPRS! I had to hard reset in the end.
So, I would backup your pocket PC before installing the GPRS profiles.
If you have a large bandwidth then it probably won't matter to you but if not I would definately install a bandwidth monitor as you may also find that some apps you install may also try to periodically get internet access.
The problem with Windows Mobile 2003 is that you can't seem to tell it to ask you first. Microsoft seem to think that you either want GPRS on permanently or don't use it at all. I am sure there are a lot of people out there who just want to use it from time to time. If an app wants internet it just goes and gets it!
Having said that, even with CSD, it will still dial out when it wants. To get around that problem I created 2 profiles, one of which doesn't have a userid and password. I set the default profile to the one without userid. That way if something tries to get internet access it first asks the user to enter their userid and password - in effect it safeguards against a rogue dial out.
I personally don't use GPRS as I found out that my CSD access will use my free minutes. Since I hardly use my phone for voice calls I may as well make use of the free minutes for internet access.
Ok did some searching around ppcsg, apparently you can turn off GRPS by pressing the RED button (the disconnect talk button) and holding it for a few seconds.
Or use this tool
http://www.pocketpcfreeware.com/en/index.php?soft=1123
Question is whether once the GPRS is turned off, will internet access be automatically be directed to the ActiveSync connection (assuming I'm connected via ActiveSync)
To use internet via AS you should configure 'my work network' correctly under the 'connections' settings. The 'my isp' connection is meant for dial-up & gprs access to the internet.
Sadly can't tell how to do it in detail as my magician is my wireless modem & at work the connection isn't allowed. Maybe the help files are of any use in this.
Cheers, M
yes, mine, just automatically uses my internet connection thro' my PC with AS, but as soon as I disconnect from my PC, my Qtek switches over to GPRS.. which is pretty cool.
dood, care to share how you achieve this?
I suppose the question is, if you are connected to a PC which is on the internet, why would you want internet access on the Magician anyway? Why not just use Thunderbird or other web browser?
Outlook will sync the inbox for e-mail when connected via activesync...
The joy of surfing the net while watching TV lying on the bed..can't really do that wth a laptop..too heavy
Hi all,
I've got my Qtek 9000 since a week and it's a dream-device.
I've got a small "problem". When I connect through WiFi to the internet and I Sign-in to MSN, after a period, I disconnect and it often happens that my device automatically connects to GPRS (costs me €€!!) without asking me... :? I guess that's MSN who tries to connect again to the internet.
I was thinking about 2 different possible solutions, but they are only workarounds. I created a dummy GPRS-connection through IrDa that is set as default. When MSN want to connect now, it does not cost me €€
I could also use a Taskmanager to kill the MSN en Internet Explorer after using WiFi, but isn't there a clean way to ask before connection to GPRS?
Thanks in advance!
Sam
Try using an app manager or menu system (I use SmallMenu from Tillanosoft) to kill MSN PROPERLY - using the WM5 "ok" button merely puts it into the background so it'll still attempt to connect.
the dummy GPRS connection is a reasonable idea though.
You could use "GB-SOFT Tweak". It has an option to "Turn off GPRS if device not used for xxxx (h:m)" and another one to show a disconnect button in the GPRS bubble.
That way you can choose when to turn GPRS off. Saved me some €€ already
Free download at http://www.gb-soft.cz/XDAII/products.htm
(No, I don't own any shares in that company :wink: )
itoma
You could use "GB-SOFT Tweak". It has an option to "Turn off GPRS if device not used for xxxx (h:m)" and another one to show a disconnect button in the GPRS bubble.
That way you can choose when to turn GPRS off. Saved me some €€ already
Free download at http://www.gb-soft.cz/XDAII/products.htm
(No, I don't own any shares in that company :wink: )
itoma
Hi all,
This one does about the same as I suggestied with the dummy connection:
http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/index.php?blog=3&p=596&more=1
Sam
I have SPB pocket plus on my prophet (latest dopod rom)...
Is it possible to make it that I have to manually connect GPRS (other than going via control panel), other than letting it connect whenever it damnwell pleases? It eats the battery alive with GPRS simply staying on and idle like that!
Regarding SPB, is it possible to put an icon to connect to a SPECIFIC GPRS connection in there? With SPB gprs monitor, there is an icon, yes, but it only connects to the DEFAULT gprs connection. Also, once you click disconnect, it simply reconnects again in 20sec for some reason.
Thx
howzit, my china
i don't know of anything allowing a quick shortcut to connect/dc your GPRS, but what i've done is set my preferred networks to My ISP (which is one of the default profiles, IIRC) and My Work Network. this way, the GPRS _never_ connects, unless i specifically, and deliberately, manually connect. i very rarely require GPRS (i always use wireless networks - they're abundant here in germany), so by taking the GPRS profile out of my preferred networks, i don't have to worry about it connecting without my knowledge, clocking up crazy costs. crazy!
my question to you, though, is what is trying to connect so frequently? have you set your email accounts to check for new mail every few minutes? i'd have a look at your settings and make sure.
other than that, i can't think of much else...
later, my broe broe
(sorry, can't resisit being stereotypically south african, given the chance...)
lol, "ja swaer"
i've also made a dummy connection that doesnt work, so GPRS doesnt auto connect now unless i manually connect, but it's a schlepp to do it everytime...
If u do search guys maybe u can find everything u want,
However;
try this
http://www.gb-soft.cz/XDAII/product_gprs_tweak_en.htm :wink:
Questions for people using the blackberry connect software:
I want to sign up for cingular's blackberry service, especially since I am overseas more often than not for work.
(Some of these are questions, some are assumptions. just trying to get some info )
My question(s) are:
1) Blackberry connect acts as your internet connection, right?
2) Does anyone use it and get a UMTS connection instead of GPRS?
3) Does your hermes act like it has a normal connection? (in other words, if I turn on Blackberry connect, can I use other progs which use that net connection - say Flexmail 2007 or IE or somesuch)
4) Does the blackberry stuff use the existing calendar /addressbook programs on the hermes, or does it use it's own? (assuming it's own)
Thanks for the help. Wondering if I can sign up for the blackberry service and basically get a flat fee rate on data when I am in Europe, etc.
derrumbe said:
Questions for people using the blackberry connect software:
I want to sign up for cingular's blackberry service, especially since I am overseas more often than not for work.
(Some of these are questions, some are assumptions. just trying to get some info )
My question(s) are:
1) Blackberry connect acts as your internet connection, right?
2) Does anyone use it and get a UMTS connection instead of GPRS?
3) Does your hermes act like it has a normal connection? (in other words, if I turn on Blackberry connect, can I use other progs which use that net connection - say Flexmail 2007 or IE or somesuch)
4) Does the blackberry stuff use the existing calendar /addressbook programs on the hermes, or does it use it's own? (assuming it's own)
Thanks for the help. Wondering if I can sign up for the blackberry service and basically get a flat fee rate on data when I am in Europe, etc.
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1. BB Connect uses your internet connection.
2. BB Connect only connects while under a GPRS/GSM/EDGE connection. In other words, you will need to force your connection or while in a GPRS area to use GSM only. You can do this within the connection Band settings.
3. You can use the internet connection from any program while BB Connect is running. However, Since BB Connect is a lower priority connection, applications like pIE, etc. will take a higher priority over BB Connect and force the BB Connect client to idle while it waits for the connection. This is an automatic process.
4. BB Connect will uses the built in PIM applications (Pocket Outlook, etc.)
Cingular has a few Blackberry plans including a unlimited plan.
thanks for the response.
So that doesn't sound as good as I was hoping.
I was hoping that Blackberry would be a conduit for the rest of my applications to use, instead of being one of many apps using one network connection.
So much for cost savings and/or surfing the net via blackberry connect.
derrumbe said:
thanks for the response.
So that doesn't sound as good as I was hoping.
I was hoping that Blackberry would be a conduit for the rest of my applications to use, instead of being one of many apps using one network connection.
So much for cost savings and/or surfing the net via blackberry connect.
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I am assuming I understand your connection question. BB Connect is no different then other applications that use a internet connection. BB Connect uses the internet connection to connect and pull down mail. Other apps don't use BB Connect to get a connection. If you have a BB plan, that will allow you to have a connection not only for email, but for any app (i.e. Internet Explorer)
hmmm... interesting point.
What you are saying is that from cing's point of view, my device would be a "blackberry" although it would actually be a hermes.
What I would have to figure out is if cingular filters out connections so that you can only connect to the blackberry server....
derrumbe said:
hmmm... interesting point.
What you are saying is that from cing's point of view, my device would be a "blackberry" although it would actually be a hermes.
What I would have to figure out is if cingular filters out connections so that you can only connect to the blackberry server....
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That's correct. Cingular has no idea nor cares what device you are using. They actually sell devices like the Nokia E62 (BB Connect preinstalled) and Treo 650 which has the BB Connect software available for download.
brmcguire said:
1. BB Connect uses your internet connection.
2. BB Connect only connects while under a GPRS/GSM/EDGE connection. In other words, you will need to force your connection or while in a GPRS area to use GSM only. You can do this within the connection Band settings.
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Interesting, so BB Connect or the BB network is not compatible with UMTS? What are the symptoms BB Connect displays when UMTS is active?
I played around with this yesterday on cingular USA, but could not get the Connect software to connect, instead it would say network available then fall back to "suspended by user". BIS account creation wouldn't recognize my PIN&IMEI combo.
Thought this was a show stopper, but perhaps it's not.
Thanks
yeah, it only works with GSM - you have to force the band away from utms.
if you go over on howard forums and look in the cingular section, you can find info - I think that I saw that error mentioned....
mooney6023 said:
Interesting, so BB Connect or the BB network is not compatible with UMTS? What are the symptoms BB Connect displays when UMTS is active?
I played around with this yesterday on cingular USA, but could not get the Connect software to connect, instead it would say network available then fall back to "suspended by user". BIS account creation wouldn't recognize my PIN&IMEI combo.
Thought this was a show stopper, but perhaps it's not.
Thanks
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When BB Connect is fully connected to the BES/BIS it will display 4 dots. For some reason, and I don't know why is that the BB Connect client doesn't like a UMTS connection. It might have todo with how GPRS/GSM holds a connection. Here is a handy link for connection status indications.
As far as the BIS registration, you will need to create a NEW account on the Cingular BIS site. Then you will be able to register your device and BB Connect.
http://www.dopodasia.com/resource/sea/bbc_web/connection.html
derrumbe said:
3) Does your hermes act like it has a normal connection? (in other words, if I turn on Blackberry connect, can I use other progs which use that net connection - say Flexmail 2007 or IE or somesuch)
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No personal experience, but folks on HoFo say BB Connect is killing the internet connection for other programs like PIE:
http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=1044755
Richard
rsolomon said:
No personal experience, but folks on HoFo say BB Connect is killing the internet connection for other programs like PIE:
http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=1044755
Richard
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Hi there, sorry to be so unspecific, but at least I wanted to share my experience
German O2 XDA/HERMES recent, used in Belgium with a Company BB service from Proximus, using BB connect 2.16 usually via UMTS, but when roaming also via GPRS; never forced it to GSM.
It is very slow! so you need to be patient; 1 min waiting until everything has re-connected is not unusual.
I remember that I had the same issue of BB Connect monopolizing the internet connection so that Skype not even started and IE was not able to connect to the internet neither.
After a cold reset and re-installation of everything it works now to expectations:
BB C is usually always on and on UMTS
When starting IE, a pop up apprears saying, connecting to ...
that's when BBC goes 'offline' Symbol :!
I can then surf the Internet
You must TERMINATE IE, not just leave it running in the background
After some time, BBC will automatically re-connect. If you try to speed up, it will complain that the connection is still blocked by another program.
I believe that BB C creates another hidden connection which is not visible in the connection folder, but if you use fit4cat, there is a tweak for 'force connection always on' and there I can see Blackberry as connection
I did not notice any handling difference between UMTS or GPRS.
HOWEVER
I have another problem as following:
I carefully checked the BB C services, but I cannot get any synchronisation of deleted mails, neither when I deletem them on the Desktop, nor when I deleted them on the Mobile.
Any experience with that ??
Rgds
hk.
I'm using BB Connect with a Vario II on TMUK.
When BB Service is on, I am connected through the blackberry.net APN, but via UMTS. If I want to browse, check POP3 email or do anything else, I have to be connected through the TMUK Internet Access Point, which is how I access Web 'N Walk and my unlimited data allowance. This, of course, interrupts my BB connection.
I believe it should be possible to use the blackberry.net APN for web-surfing as well because on RIM devices, all data goes through the BB APN. However, if I try to manually set up a new connection with the blackberry.net APN and route data traffic through it, it doesn't work.
So, not quite sure, but it should be possible to use the blackberry bundle on whatever network as the conduit for data traffic that one of the posters here was referring to - might just need a chat with tech support at your network.
Dave
other post says BBC does not support MDS, so you cannot surf using blackberry.net (not sure what MDS is, but guess it is in a real BB)
also can confirm that I have to suspend the Blackberry GPRS/EDGE connection before IE and POP3 mail will work - both GPRS connections (Blackberry and normal GPRS) are active, but the Blasckberry one seems to have priority
using HTC P3300 and TMO BBC client 2.1.2.31
ive been using BBConnect on both the XDA Exec and the V1605 for well over a year, it will connect to the BB Server using whatever PHONE network band is available e.g. UMTS if in a good Vodafone signal area or it will step back to GPRS if it doesnt, there are issues when roaming on other networks which will not pass through the BB connection so for example when in Germany on a supposed Roaming Partners network BB doesnt connect. I just have to force the Phone to try to connect to VF which then obviously works albeit a low speed connection. as for using PIE whenever I try to connect it disconnects the BB Connection and connects again using the VF connection, I agree this is a bit @rse as you would have thought the applicaitons could see that there is a usable connection there and should therefore utilise it..
If anyone knows of a registry setting that can be modified to fix the connection hopping I would be interested.
Problem with BB C on Tytn
Hi, I downloaded the BB c software from Voda.de, and installed it onto my Tytn with WM5. the instalation and registering to the network was fine.
but I cant do e-mail set up... it's grayed out and I cant click it...
I also tried registering/creating an account through mobileemail.vodafone.net,
but to no avail. after I input IMEI and PIN, then create Usename and password, I get the notice, "The system has encounted an error".
I thought I might have wrong software, and to keep things simple I put WM6(Official rom from HTC) into handset, then put BB C 4 for WM6, (again from Voda.de) but to no avail. same situation.
the phone connects to BB GPRS/3G, it shows PIN, IMEI, IP.
so connection wise there doesn't seem to be problem.
but cant create an account...
anyone come across same problem??
I've been trying to figgure this out for like three days now.
Thanks to those who'll give me advice!!
BR
Timmy-Boy
Timmy-Boy said:
Hi, I downloaded the BB c software from Voda.de, and installed it onto my Tytn with WM5. the instalation and registering to the network was fine.
but I cant do e-mail set up... it's grayed out and I cant click it...
I also tried registering/creating an account through mobileemail.vodafone.net,
but to no avail. after I input IMEI and PIN, then create Usename and password, I get the notice, "The system has encounted an error".
I thought I might have wrong software, and to keep things simple I put WM6(Official rom from HTC) into handset, then put BB C 4 for WM6, (again from Voda.de) but to no avail. same situation.
the phone connects to BB GPRS/3G, it shows PIN, IMEI, IP.
so connection wise there doesn't seem to be problem.
but cant create an account...
anyone come across same problem??
I've been trying to figgure this out for like three days now.
Thanks to those who'll give me advice!!
BR
Timmy-Boy
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try this....
1) Change device ID, from Start -> Settings -> System -> About -> Device ID to HTC_TyTN
2) Edit your registry: HKLM\System\Versions\AKU key, change the key from (1.0.0) or whatever in there to .0.4.2
lve0200 said:
I have another problem as following:
I carefully checked the BB C services, but I cannot get any synchronisation of deleted mails, neither when I deletem them on the Desktop, nor when I deleted them on the Mobile.
Any experience with that ??
Rgds
hk.
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As he mentioned above I have the same problem. For regular Blackberry devices they give the advice to check the options on the messaging screen and there is setting to choose delete on handheld, both, or prompt, But I could not find any such setting in the BB client for WM6.1
BB Client is 4.0.0.97, desktop software is 4.0.0.18
Any advices?
!!! SOLVED !!!
1. Tap Start > Settings.
2. Tap the System tab.
3. Tap the BlackBerry icon.
4. Tap the Services tab.
5. Tap the BlackBerry [CMIME] service book
6. Tap the Synchronization tab.
7. Select the Enable Wireless Synchronization check box.
8. From the Conflicts drop‐down list, tap an option.
9. From the Delete on drop-down list, tap an option.