BA - WiFi / While Docked - Networking

I've got it to work once, and not sure how, but I want to use my WiFi Connection while my PDA is docked so I can use Pocket Controller and access it with my desktop.
Here's my situation. at work, our connection is locked down, but we have WiFi for visiting clients, that's wide open, I like to use Agile Messenger to chat with my friends but can only do so using the open WiFi, but I want to use my keyboard and monitor on my desktop so I connect to my pda using pocket controller.
The thing is... when I connect to wifi it works, then when I dock, my PDA creates a network conenction with my desktop, and it becomes primary, this kicking me off agile messenger... I've tried docking then wifi...same results
I'm running Windows Mobile 2005, windows xp and Active Sync 4.1
I've turned off all active sync connection settings, but I still need my pda to make a network connection with my desktop thus I can use pocket controller to controll and view it.
ideas?

On ActiveSync Options->Rules change Pass Through Connection to be "Work". Quite appropriate in this case ;-)

I have yet to test this, but in theroy.. or atleast my attempt to grasp the concept..
The USB/Data connection between my desktop/PDA via active sync will then only really be a bridge to my PC, and any and all Internet traffic will then travel through WiFi, as it will become the primary/only "Internet" enabled connection.
Sound right?

Yep, I really dislike the way WM has the concept of Internet and Work and even more hate the way that this cludge has been used by operators like O2 to provide an Internet GPRS account (Internet) and a WAP GPRS account (Work).
What I suggested definately works on 2003, but if your operator does the same as O2, you won't be able to receive MMSs.

kevino said:
On ActiveSync Options->Rules change Pass Through Connection to be "Work". Quite appropriate in this case ;-)
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I have activesync 4.1 with a window mobile 5 device, but I can't find this option...
I would like to keep my GPRS-connection open when i'm connected to my PC. But the same problem over here as the topicstarter

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Terminal Services Client via Activesync

Hi all, this is my first post on xda developers (best site i've seen for xda related stufff).
Anyway my query relates to remote desktop control on the pocket pc. I've used the microsoft client (whatever its called) to connect and manipulate my xda 2 on my pc, but now I'm looking to do the opposite: view and control my pc desktop from my Xda.
I have an application that is meant to do this (remote desktop), and i'm sure it would work, though it wants to connect via gprs/wap. I am wanting to connect via activesync ( specificaly bluetooth activesnyc ).
I was told Terminal Services Client was the program to use, but I cant work it out. I've tried connecting on my pc's name and ip with the pc (xp pro) set to receive incoming connections, but i keep getting connection errors...
I can't find any help relating to this type of scenario on the net , so if anyone can help it'd be appreciated.
Cheers
you have to turn it one in systems of your pc
then you have to make a connection to the pc from the pda
then you start therminal services and type in the name of the pc
and you are there
Despite being connected by activesync, my xda 2 still trys to connect via wap (preseumably because it sees the GPRS in use already).
Has anyone setup terminal service client to work under similar conditions?
Wacking another post on this to try and grab someones attention...
Terminal services client via activesync on xp pro... has anyone seen or got a tutorial? I try using my pc's name as the login and believed I have enabled everything I'm supposed to on my PC , but still can't get it to work. I'm sure I've just missed something somewhere on the PC, but can't think what for the life of me....
Any help would be really appreciated.
well you should prob disconnect gprs
and maybe set the network to work or home or how ever you set it on under connections
my problem is as soon as i login with my xda2 then my normal user on the pc get disconnected and that disable activesync kicking off my therminal services client (the xda2)
Rudegar said:
well you should prob disconnect gprs
and maybe set the network to work or home or how ever you set it on under connections
my problem is as soon as i login with my xda2 then my normal user on the pc get disconnected and that disable activesync kicking off my therminal services client (the xda2)
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I'm activesync'd with my PC so the GPRS connection is via the PC if it wasn't there I don't believe I could get anywhere with terminal services.... as I said when I try and connect it doesn't find my PC's name and so begins looking for it on the net... which for some reason it tries to look for on wap (connects itself).
What I need to / want to know is what settings people have setup on their pc, and how having a firewall effects it?
unless your pc's modem is another xda then your gprs is not going though your pc
gprs is cellphone only
under connections you need to set up a network which dont connect to gprs
I have Terminal Services Client working fine on my XDAII to connect via 802.11b to a Win 2k Server. As far as I know the Terminal Server has to be an actual server and not just a ordinary PC.
i doubt it because on this xp pro i could use therminal services
when i turned it on
the only problem was that i could not use activesync as the connection
because when i login'd with my pda i the normal user on the pc would be loged out disabling activesync
Thanks for the post. spent a while trying to config before i read this.
Is there a way i can use remote assistance from my xda2. What i want is to use my xda remote desktop as a remote control for playing my mp3s and vids direct on my pc
you could use vnc if therminal services will not work without logging the desktop user off and so disabling the activesync connection
controlling vids and mp3 i cannot help but what i did was that... i switch user in the win xp pro and login using the terminal client so in other words the active sync connection will not disconnect. but i don't like the idea of having the whole desktop on my PPC it sucks having lesser space to control the computer but remote desktop connection is bette but tis a demo version that i can get hold off. Thinking of purchasin the full version soon once i have a stable bluetooth connection. my BT range sucks.

GPRS Question

GPRS is new territory for me. I'm planning to apply for a GPRS acct with my telco
I'm afraid that once I've configured the settings for internet via GPRS from my telco, it will always use GPRS whenever I want to connect to the internet.
How do I switch back to normal mode when I'm at home and accessing the internet thru ActiveSync?
On my EXTENDED_ROM, there is a file called vodafone.CAB which will configure my phone with Vodafone settings (I'm with Vodafone). Whenever I run that file (after a hard reset), I cannot access the internet via ActiveSync. Everytime I run PIE, it always defaults to GPRS.
I don't know how to switch to use internet via activesync once I'm on the GPRS plan and then switch back to GPRS when I'm not at home.
If you are concerned about it using GPRS once you are connected to ActiveSync you could always switch to flight mode. Not ideal, I admit, if you use your phone alot and don't like it being turned off.
I had two profiles on mine, one GPRS and one dial up. Even when I set the default to the dial up (CSD) it still tried to use GPRS. Fault with my pocket PC only? maybe. What was strange was that even after I deleted the GPRS profile and soft reset it still was using GPRS! I had to hard reset in the end.
So, I would backup your pocket PC before installing the GPRS profiles.
If you have a large bandwidth then it probably won't matter to you but if not I would definately install a bandwidth monitor as you may also find that some apps you install may also try to periodically get internet access.
The problem with Windows Mobile 2003 is that you can't seem to tell it to ask you first. Microsoft seem to think that you either want GPRS on permanently or don't use it at all. I am sure there are a lot of people out there who just want to use it from time to time. If an app wants internet it just goes and gets it!
Having said that, even with CSD, it will still dial out when it wants. To get around that problem I created 2 profiles, one of which doesn't have a userid and password. I set the default profile to the one without userid. That way if something tries to get internet access it first asks the user to enter their userid and password - in effect it safeguards against a rogue dial out.
I personally don't use GPRS as I found out that my CSD access will use my free minutes. Since I hardly use my phone for voice calls I may as well make use of the free minutes for internet access.
Ok did some searching around ppcsg, apparently you can turn off GRPS by pressing the RED button (the disconnect talk button) and holding it for a few seconds.
Or use this tool
http://www.pocketpcfreeware.com/en/index.php?soft=1123
Question is whether once the GPRS is turned off, will internet access be automatically be directed to the ActiveSync connection (assuming I'm connected via ActiveSync)
To use internet via AS you should configure 'my work network' correctly under the 'connections' settings. The 'my isp' connection is meant for dial-up & gprs access to the internet.
Sadly can't tell how to do it in detail as my magician is my wireless modem & at work the connection isn't allowed. Maybe the help files are of any use in this.
Cheers, M
yes, mine, just automatically uses my internet connection thro' my PC with AS, but as soon as I disconnect from my PC, my Qtek switches over to GPRS.. which is pretty cool.
dood, care to share how you achieve this?
I suppose the question is, if you are connected to a PC which is on the internet, why would you want internet access on the Magician anyway? Why not just use Thunderbird or other web browser?
Outlook will sync the inbox for e-mail when connected via activesync...
The joy of surfing the net while watching TV lying on the bed..can't really do that wth a laptop..too heavy

Access the internet via activesync

I used to be able to access the internet on my MDA Pro when connected to my laptop via activesync.
Now I can't!!!!
Could anyone tell me how to do this & the difference between work and internet settings?
Thanks
have you selected the pass through function in activesync?
work allows the use of VPN connections as it is expected to use names for the machines you are going to connect to. thus disallowing the use of "." in addresses.
internet allows the use of ".", but connecting a VPN connection is difficult over it. in order to use "." vpn connection addresses over the internet, you have to start placing exceptions in to the connections advanced section.
you should set it to Internet to allow the internet pass through feature.
hope it helps and is clear enough. if you need further clarification let me know. i just had to setup my wifes 2 days ago, and i can back track how i did it if necessary.
another question with same content.
use PC as a bridge for MDA (connected via BT or cable)
PC connected via proxy to the i-net.
on MDA the IE works fine, Opera doesn't.
any ideas??
greets, Ben
sorry dont use opera at all.
does it work with IE?
like I said before:
IE works fine
Opera not.

Stumped HoFo, Challenge for xda-dev: Can I use GPRS/EDGE while ActiveSync Connected?

I want to use GPRS/EDGE while connected to ActiveSync, instead of my computers connection.
Is this possible?
My work proxy blocks IM & other sites (web-based e-mail). My preference would be to use some remote control software (Pocket Controller Pro, for instance) to control my Wizard via ActiveSync, and use my computer's keyboard (!!!), but over GPRS/EDGE.
Set your ActiveSync connection as "Work" and your net connection as "Internet" and it should connect to GPRS/EDGE even when you are on ActiveSync. At least it does on my T-Mobile MDA with the stock 2.26 ROM.
This is not working for me, on my stock T-Mo (US) 2.26 ROM.
I go into ActiveSyn 4.2, File, "This Computer is Connected to" and I select "Work"
When I try to access anything (IE to a page I haven't been to before, start MSN Messenger, etc.) it says I can't access.
As soon as I unplug the USB and refresh/SignIn, GPRS starts up and I'm good to go.
Is there no way to use GPRS while connected to ActiveSync?
In mine if i connect with agile using gprs and then i plug to pc agile stays connected to gprs...but if i start agile when connected to the pc it uses the pc connection...maybe u can try to connect ur im before connecting to the pc...but for pocket explorer i dont know as it dont maintain any kind of persistent connection...
now i know this works with wifi.. but dont know about edge..
http://www.airscanner.com/downloads/airfix/airfix.html
**EDIT**
i did install it, i connected via edge, then ran the program, then placed it in my cradle and edge stayed connected while activesync sync'd... since i am at work however i was unable to vft if i was able to browse via edge.. but their website does say something about needing to set up static ip's (when referring to wifi) i know thats not possible with edge, but wonder if i can do it with activesync... hmmmmm
the way it works for me..
its kind of crude, but works for me.
i connect my wiz via activesync and after its connected use remote display to work with it on the main computer screen.
i use process explorer to kill rapimgr.exe, wcescomm.exe and wcesmgr.exe. the remote display still is connected and takes my input from the main computer. now i can use gprs to go out on the net. in order to re-sync i start activesync on the pc again.
hope this helps,
sl
lafloer said:
its kind of crude, but works for me.
i connect my wiz via activesync and after its connected use remote display to work with it on the main computer screen.
i use process explorer to kill rapimgr.exe, wcescomm.exe and wcesmgr.exe. the remote display still is connected and takes my input from the main computer. now i can use gprs to go out on the net. in order to re-sync i start activesync on the pc again.
hope this helps,
sl
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Ummm...... all I can say is WOW!
I was just about to type up a message saying the "Login to Agile then ActiveSync, Agil should retain GPRS" thing did NOT work for me....
THANK YOU! this is awesome!

Using BT to check hotmail

Hi all,
I set up my Trinity to also check my hotmail account. Ofcourse, when I do this outside the confines of my home Wifi network, the P3600 automatically connects to hotmail via my UMTS connection.
When I'm on the road I don't mind this, but when I'm at the office, where there is no wifi, I would like to use the connection my PC has to the internet. I was thinking about using BT for this but don't know if this is possible at all...
Anyone with suggestions?
I don't think this is possible via Activesync, but if possible I would like to avoid the use of it anyway...
Thx for any suggestions!
if connected to activesync one is connected to the network of the pc with activesync
unless steps have been made on the pc, pda or office network to block it
i surf with bluetooth connection to activesync all the time
Likewise i use the USB active sync connection to connect to the internet on my Trinity, and Alpine as well. The only restriction, as mentioned, is that if the PC has limited access rights then so does the PDA.
Hey thanks Rudegar & deedee, I didn't know this actually
So simple and obvious, but I never tried it out
Guess I'll have to install Activesync on the [email protected] too then....

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