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Why can't some apps establish a gprs/umts connection ?

When I use total commander's ftp client to connect to an ftp server , total commander itself is not able to establish a gprs/umts connection. I must already be connected (for example open pocket ie before I start ftp) to get it to work. This strange behavior I have also seen in other applications (i.e. pocketirc cannot connect to an irc server if I don't start pocket IE before). Why is that so ? And what can I do about it ?

I had the same problem when I started using ThunderHawk. I had to open Pocket IE to get a connection, close it and then open ThunderHawwk.
Using the always-on GPRS in the wiki (http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Universal_Registry) solved that issue for me.
Hopefully, that will work for ftp, as well. Let us know.
Boinger

what does that always on registry hack REALLY do ? Does that mean my phone will have a constant GPRS connection ? Does that not mean I must not forget to disconnect manually when I close the phone? Will that not increase the traffic ?

It is kind of an all or nothing deal. If you have ANY programs that can access GPRS data, this hack will allow it. Also, be aware that if you manually disconnect, the connection will automatically re-establish 5-10 sec later while using this hack.
As an example, I use PocketWeather, which I have setup to update every hour. It will update using GPRS if it is not Activesync-ing, every single hour of every day. If you have to pay for data by the amount used, it may not be attractive. I have an unlimited use plan through T-mobile USA for $20/month, so I just don't have to worry.
Other than this hack, I believe you will have to connect the hard way.
Strangely enough, my old PDA phone (hp 6315) would connect just fine with ThunderHawk. It also had a choice under the taskbar 'Connectivity' pop-up bubble for 'GPRS (T-Mobile)' that I could use to easily connect or disconnect. My Jasjar only lists 'T-Zones GPRS (GPRS, 3G)' in the pop-up only when it is connected. So, I suspect that the issue is either with WM5 or T-Mobile added something to the ROM of the 6315 to make it more functional with their network.

GPRS Question

GPRS is new territory for me. I'm planning to apply for a GPRS acct with my telco
I'm afraid that once I've configured the settings for internet via GPRS from my telco, it will always use GPRS whenever I want to connect to the internet.
How do I switch back to normal mode when I'm at home and accessing the internet thru ActiveSync?
On my EXTENDED_ROM, there is a file called vodafone.CAB which will configure my phone with Vodafone settings (I'm with Vodafone). Whenever I run that file (after a hard reset), I cannot access the internet via ActiveSync. Everytime I run PIE, it always defaults to GPRS.
I don't know how to switch to use internet via activesync once I'm on the GPRS plan and then switch back to GPRS when I'm not at home.

If you are concerned about it using GPRS once you are connected to ActiveSync you could always switch to flight mode. Not ideal, I admit, if you use your phone alot and don't like it being turned off.
I had two profiles on mine, one GPRS and one dial up. Even when I set the default to the dial up (CSD) it still tried to use GPRS. Fault with my pocket PC only? maybe. What was strange was that even after I deleted the GPRS profile and soft reset it still was using GPRS! I had to hard reset in the end.
So, I would backup your pocket PC before installing the GPRS profiles.
If you have a large bandwidth then it probably won't matter to you but if not I would definately install a bandwidth monitor as you may also find that some apps you install may also try to periodically get internet access.
The problem with Windows Mobile 2003 is that you can't seem to tell it to ask you first. Microsoft seem to think that you either want GPRS on permanently or don't use it at all. I am sure there are a lot of people out there who just want to use it from time to time. If an app wants internet it just goes and gets it!
Having said that, even with CSD, it will still dial out when it wants. To get around that problem I created 2 profiles, one of which doesn't have a userid and password. I set the default profile to the one without userid. That way if something tries to get internet access it first asks the user to enter their userid and password - in effect it safeguards against a rogue dial out.
I personally don't use GPRS as I found out that my CSD access will use my free minutes. Since I hardly use my phone for voice calls I may as well make use of the free minutes for internet access.

Ok did some searching around ppcsg, apparently you can turn off GRPS by pressing the RED button (the disconnect talk button) and holding it for a few seconds.
Or use this tool
http://www.pocketpcfreeware.com/en/index.php?soft=1123
Question is whether once the GPRS is turned off, will internet access be automatically be directed to the ActiveSync connection (assuming I'm connected via ActiveSync)

To use internet via AS you should configure 'my work network' correctly under the 'connections' settings. The 'my isp' connection is meant for dial-up & gprs access to the internet.
Sadly can't tell how to do it in detail as my magician is my wireless modem & at work the connection isn't allowed. Maybe the help files are of any use in this.
Cheers, M

yes, mine, just automatically uses my internet connection thro' my PC with AS, but as soon as I disconnect from my PC, my Qtek switches over to GPRS.. which is pretty cool.

dood, care to share how you achieve this?

I suppose the question is, if you are connected to a PC which is on the internet, why would you want internet access on the Magician anyway? Why not just use Thunderbird or other web browser?
Outlook will sync the inbox for e-mail when connected via activesync...

The joy of surfing the net while watching TV lying on the bed..can't really do that wth a laptop..too heavy

Connection preference settings

Hi,
I have had a search to see if this has been covered before but maybe I am using the wrong query.
I have an O2 Exec with the latest O2 Rom, and now when I do an email send and receive, the GPRS connection stays up. Whereas I could have sworn in the earlier ROM it disconnected after the send/receive.
I spoke to O2 and they assured me that it is supposed to do that, and since I only get charged for actaul data transfer, I can sit connected to GPRS all day for free (is this correct).
Now, my main question is. Say GPRS is up and connected, and I turn on WIFI or plug into my PC using the charger/sync cable and then do a send and receive. Will the Exec use these free connections or still route data over the GPRS?
I did a test and it looked as though when I did this, the GPRS connection was shut down, as after a send/receive and then disable WIFI, the connection setting showed a large U and not the connected icon.
I am now sitting with a GPRS connection active, email is set to manual and I have Pocket Weather set to 'Auto update on connection' and 'Auto update on Active Sync', but 'Use connection manager' is disabled as is 'Force a connect when not available'.
Should this mean that no data is used at all and that I can sit connected at no cost.
Sorry for the long rambling post, but I am a complete newbie to all this GPRS pda thing.
regards,
/Mad

related question - how to stop gprs connecting automatically
My wifi router at home is dodgy and sometimes the signal drops - this means my exec switches over automatically to GPRS (I'm not in a 3G area) and starts whacking up a big data bill before I realise. Is there anyway of getting it to ask me if I want to connect to GPRS - rather than it just telling me thats what its doing? Can't turn the phone off cos I still need to receive calls.
I did think of just scarmbling my connection settings, but now I've upgraded to the latest O2 rom the connections settings page does not show any existing connections! (I also can't get TomTom to run at all now but I guess I'll work through that one :-( )
Thanks,
John

I believe this is what you are looking for. Y
ou can set which connections programs use for thier internet access in Settings -> Connections -> Connections -> Advanced, Select Networks.
Choosing My Work Network or My ISP should stop programs sucking up your money.

Thanks PReDiToR I've tried that but it then gives me a 'cannot connect' popup instead of using the wifi - it seems as if there has to be an accessible gprs connection for it to ignore before it will try wifi :-o
What does everyone else do? Maybe you're all rich or the company pays for your data?
Thanks

Any luck yet with the GPRS / WiFi issue?? I have got the sam
webbyfoot said:
Thanks PReDiToR I've tried that but it then gives me a 'cannot connect' popup instead of using the wifi - it seems as if there has to be an accessible gprs connection for it to ignore before it will try wifi :-o
What does everyone else do? Maybe you're all rich or the company pays for your data?
Thanks
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Any luck yet with the GPRS / WiFi issue?? I have got the same problem

Derrr...
EDIT: Hey I've just read what I've written below and its exavctly what Preditor suggested - funny didn't work when I tried ........ I guess it was because I was trying 'My ISP' without gprs settings - which complained - whereas 'My Work Network' without gprs settings allows the wifi to connect ... :?
I've now got a workaround for this - means going through the menus every time I DO want GPRS data - but thats rare till I get a better contract which will have to wait till my 12 months with O2 is up in November.. web'n'walk sounds good - unlimited gprs :-o - (could T-Mobile really tell when I was using my XDa as a modem for my laptop - which is forbidden in the terms of this contarct - and when I was just usng data for its own programs - which is allowed ??)
Anyway what I do is settings>connections>advanced>Select Networks> choose My Work Network for programs connecting to the internet. I have no gprs settings in My Work Network but it connects to wifi no problem.
So when I forget and I'm out of wifi range I get an error that it can't connect, so change the setting back to 'MY ISP' and GPRS kicks in.
A Today Screen shortcut to the Network Management screen would help - but I'm almost always using wifi so I haven't bothered.
John

Unable the GPRS/3G/WAP...

Hi,
I want that all the pay connection are deleted form my phone, for example, I set software to get my calendar automatically, of google maps,... from internet, but if no WIFI connection is available, the phone will dial an operator phone number for WAP called "WAP SFR CSD" and I had to cancel the call...
I've deleted all connection in Connexion page (even the MMS connexion and I don't know how to put it back) but this strange connextion is still there.
So, I want that all softwares who need to gon on internet, can still try (for getting mails, callendar, sync, etc..) but if no connexion through wifi or usb is available, do nothing. And don't try to use pay connexion.
Or better, sync only if Wifi, of activesync is enabled.
Thanks.
P.S : my operator is SFR and I use the "normal" version if WM5

You could try a program called NoData available from Modaco.com. It allows you turn off/on your GPRS etc at will. My situation is exactly like yours - my phone kept trying to dial up to GPRS etc and I had to continuously keep cancelling the connection. This nice little utility has stopped this from happening.

Connect to GPRS only manually

Hi,
I am able to connect to gprs automatically (also works wifi). My problem is I don't want my gprs to start connecting itself (showing the gprs connection box with "cancel" and "hide" buttons). Instead, I want a dialog box appear to ask me if I want to connect to gprs. If say "yes" only then it should connect. I don't want to be automatically connected when I use windows live messenger, google map or any tryout softwares in my phone.
Device : HTC FUZE
Windows 6.5 custom rom installed
Thanks in advance,

You can use little program called NoData ( http://www.modaco.com/content/pocket-pc-software/246171/new-free-utility-nodata/ ) - with it you can completely disable/enable your gprs data connection.