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GPRS Question

GPRS is new territory for me. I'm planning to apply for a GPRS acct with my telco
I'm afraid that once I've configured the settings for internet via GPRS from my telco, it will always use GPRS whenever I want to connect to the internet.
How do I switch back to normal mode when I'm at home and accessing the internet thru ActiveSync?
On my EXTENDED_ROM, there is a file called vodafone.CAB which will configure my phone with Vodafone settings (I'm with Vodafone). Whenever I run that file (after a hard reset), I cannot access the internet via ActiveSync. Everytime I run PIE, it always defaults to GPRS.
I don't know how to switch to use internet via activesync once I'm on the GPRS plan and then switch back to GPRS when I'm not at home.

If you are concerned about it using GPRS once you are connected to ActiveSync you could always switch to flight mode. Not ideal, I admit, if you use your phone alot and don't like it being turned off.
I had two profiles on mine, one GPRS and one dial up. Even when I set the default to the dial up (CSD) it still tried to use GPRS. Fault with my pocket PC only? maybe. What was strange was that even after I deleted the GPRS profile and soft reset it still was using GPRS! I had to hard reset in the end.
So, I would backup your pocket PC before installing the GPRS profiles.
If you have a large bandwidth then it probably won't matter to you but if not I would definately install a bandwidth monitor as you may also find that some apps you install may also try to periodically get internet access.
The problem with Windows Mobile 2003 is that you can't seem to tell it to ask you first. Microsoft seem to think that you either want GPRS on permanently or don't use it at all. I am sure there are a lot of people out there who just want to use it from time to time. If an app wants internet it just goes and gets it!
Having said that, even with CSD, it will still dial out when it wants. To get around that problem I created 2 profiles, one of which doesn't have a userid and password. I set the default profile to the one without userid. That way if something tries to get internet access it first asks the user to enter their userid and password - in effect it safeguards against a rogue dial out.
I personally don't use GPRS as I found out that my CSD access will use my free minutes. Since I hardly use my phone for voice calls I may as well make use of the free minutes for internet access.

Ok did some searching around ppcsg, apparently you can turn off GRPS by pressing the RED button (the disconnect talk button) and holding it for a few seconds.
Or use this tool
http://www.pocketpcfreeware.com/en/index.php?soft=1123
Question is whether once the GPRS is turned off, will internet access be automatically be directed to the ActiveSync connection (assuming I'm connected via ActiveSync)

To use internet via AS you should configure 'my work network' correctly under the 'connections' settings. The 'my isp' connection is meant for dial-up & gprs access to the internet.
Sadly can't tell how to do it in detail as my magician is my wireless modem & at work the connection isn't allowed. Maybe the help files are of any use in this.
Cheers, M

yes, mine, just automatically uses my internet connection thro' my PC with AS, but as soon as I disconnect from my PC, my Qtek switches over to GPRS.. which is pretty cool.

dood, care to share how you achieve this?

I suppose the question is, if you are connected to a PC which is on the internet, why would you want internet access on the Magician anyway? Why not just use Thunderbird or other web browser?
Outlook will sync the inbox for e-mail when connected via activesync...

The joy of surfing the net while watching TV lying on the bed..can't really do that wth a laptop..too heavy

force GPRS/3G connection

Can anyone tell me how i can force a GPRS/3G connection. At present i am using Thunderhawk II to browse the internet from my M5000 but this application does not automatically open an internet connection using GPRS/3G when i am not using WiFi. I have to open PIE first before the device will connect to the internet and then open Thunderhawk. This is a pain. Any advice? Can anyone create a little Today app to do this?

......and unlike PPC 2003, WM5 does not allow you to open a data connection by tapping on the 'G' or 'U' symbols at the top of the screen. Why not??????

go into connections and locate the connection settings you are looking for, press and hold, tap connect.

Thanks for the reply but going through the following routine everytime i need to browse is hardly convenient:
Start
Settings
Connections
Connections
Orange World: Manage existing connections
Orange GPRS Internet
Connect
Is there no way of achieving this from the Today screen?

nope
connections, or use PIE as you have indicated.

Try PhoneAlarm to force GPRS connection
I seem to recall that PhoneAlarm has a route to forcing GPRS to connect. Certainly works with my Universal. It's not always shown on the available skins, but if I use HGS6VGA CAR skin file GPRS connection is forced by clicking on one of the displayed icons. Not sure of the code this icon click invokes, but it does launch GPRS on my device.

Ask for confirmation before connecting to GPRS

Hi all,
I've got my Qtek 9000 since a week and it's a dream-device.
I've got a small "problem". When I connect through WiFi to the internet and I Sign-in to MSN, after a period, I disconnect and it often happens that my device automatically connects to GPRS (costs me €€!!) without asking me... :? I guess that's MSN who tries to connect again to the internet.
I was thinking about 2 different possible solutions, but they are only workarounds. I created a dummy GPRS-connection through IrDa that is set as default. When MSN want to connect now, it does not cost me €€
I could also use a Taskmanager to kill the MSN en Internet Explorer after using WiFi, but isn't there a clean way to ask before connection to GPRS?
Thanks in advance!
Sam

Try using an app manager or menu system (I use SmallMenu from Tillanosoft) to kill MSN PROPERLY - using the WM5 "ok" button merely puts it into the background so it'll still attempt to connect.
the dummy GPRS connection is a reasonable idea though.

You could use "GB-SOFT Tweak". It has an option to "Turn off GPRS if device not used for xxxx (h:m)" and another one to show a disconnect button in the GPRS bubble.
That way you can choose when to turn GPRS off. Saved me some €€ already
Free download at http://www.gb-soft.cz/XDAII/products.htm
(No, I don't own any shares in that company :wink: )
itoma

You could use "GB-SOFT Tweak". It has an option to "Turn off GPRS if device not used for xxxx (h:m)" and another one to show a disconnect button in the GPRS bubble.
That way you can choose when to turn GPRS off. Saved me some €€ already
Free download at http://www.gb-soft.cz/XDAII/products.htm
(No, I don't own any shares in that company :wink: )
itoma

Hi all,
This one does about the same as I suggestied with the dummy connection:
http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/index.php?blog=3&p=596&more=1
Sam

Convince Windows Live to use WiFi

Hi all,
maybe someone has a solution that does not involve totally disabling GPRS...
Every other app (TwitToday, Active Sync, Pocket IE, Outlook, GPS update, etc pp) prefers the WiFi connection over existing GPRS/EDGE connection, except Windows Live Sync/Messenger: Both of them constantly ignore the WLAN and instead open a GPRS/EDGE connection...
How do I force it (or, if easier, the whole OS) to only use GPRS then when no Wifi is available?
Thanks,
Marco

I achieved this by making everything use Work Network.....it uses GPRS when no WiFi is available only.
On the subject (not wishing to hijack the thread though) I have a similar issue. All apps work fine through wireless, however Windows Live (Messenger etc) launches and connects to GPRS/HSDPA/EDGE when a wifi connection is not present, but then errors with a "no connection" message. All other apps work fine in GPRS/EDGE/HSDPA mode but this...ideas?

Doesn't work
When I say in the Connections control panel that all apps should use something other than E-Plus Web (either My ISP or My Work Network), then MSN whines about connectivity problem.
When I leave it at work network and disconnect wifi, I get system error with all internet using apps - it "can't connect with the current settings".
So, I have to leave the "connect to the internet using..." to Eplus Web... then, all apps, including Pocket IE use WLAN if available, but only MSN still connects GPRS :/
Any idea? Why does f***ing MSN not offer what connection to choose, if it can't obey the system settings?
Marco

permanent connection errors wifi HELP!

Hey guys,
I use the program "NoData" that disables 3G and other services that charge money. So with my phone I only use Wifi when I found a wlan network.
However, I have serious problems with connection all the time.
->It started with SPB Mobile Shell 3.0. I can't access the facebook option to download some pictures of my contacts. Cannot connect.
->Then Mach5 webbrowser did not work on my Xperia. Did try it with 3G (enabled 3G from NoData of course) and wlan. No connection.
->Now, and that really annoys me: tryed to install microsofts myphone service that recently came up. After typing in my Windows Live ID (have connected Wlan) it says: Could not connect.
Are those problems linked to "NoData" or does any1 have a nother clue?
>Thanks
edit: it has nothing to do with NoData. Uninstalled and got the same problems.

On My X1 the WiFi works great.
I have even enabled all Security Settings for my Private WLAN Network.
For me it looks like that your WLAN Network dont work really good.
Can you access the Internet without any Problems with a Laptop ?
I guess you will have the same Problems.
For enabling wifi i use normally the "Comm Manager" and enable there the WLAN.
After this i call up the WLAN Programm and select the Right WLAN Network.
Thats all.
For disabling GPRS 3G i use also the "Comm Manager".
I dont use any other programms.
My experience say even that if both Options "WLAN" and "3G (GPRS, HDSPA ..)" are enabled wlan is preffered.
I still search the Option in Windows Mobile where i setup the Phone to use WLAN as the standard Internet Access.
On my previuos Phone Sony Erricsson P910i this setting was possible.