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Connecting to GPRS in WM5

In WM2003SE when i clicked on the Network icon, the little bubble that opened used to display any configured GPRS connections with a "connect" link.
To connect all i had to do was click on "connect" and it would connect to the GPRS network.
In WM5, even though I have a gprs connection set-up, there is no mention of it on that little bubble that opens up when i click on the connection icon.
Am i dong something wrong? is there some configuration step missing or is this feature just not supported in WM5?

Same behaviour on my device, I guess it's a bug.
But the connection actually works perfectly, you just need to enter in "connections", "manage existing connections", and then "connect" with your connection of choice.
A bit tricky, but it works.
Alternatively, there are softwares which monitor the GPRS traffic and also allow a more immediate connection.

GPRS Question

GPRS is new territory for me. I'm planning to apply for a GPRS acct with my telco
I'm afraid that once I've configured the settings for internet via GPRS from my telco, it will always use GPRS whenever I want to connect to the internet.
How do I switch back to normal mode when I'm at home and accessing the internet thru ActiveSync?
On my EXTENDED_ROM, there is a file called vodafone.CAB which will configure my phone with Vodafone settings (I'm with Vodafone). Whenever I run that file (after a hard reset), I cannot access the internet via ActiveSync. Everytime I run PIE, it always defaults to GPRS.
I don't know how to switch to use internet via activesync once I'm on the GPRS plan and then switch back to GPRS when I'm not at home.

If you are concerned about it using GPRS once you are connected to ActiveSync you could always switch to flight mode. Not ideal, I admit, if you use your phone alot and don't like it being turned off.
I had two profiles on mine, one GPRS and one dial up. Even when I set the default to the dial up (CSD) it still tried to use GPRS. Fault with my pocket PC only? maybe. What was strange was that even after I deleted the GPRS profile and soft reset it still was using GPRS! I had to hard reset in the end.
So, I would backup your pocket PC before installing the GPRS profiles.
If you have a large bandwidth then it probably won't matter to you but if not I would definately install a bandwidth monitor as you may also find that some apps you install may also try to periodically get internet access.
The problem with Windows Mobile 2003 is that you can't seem to tell it to ask you first. Microsoft seem to think that you either want GPRS on permanently or don't use it at all. I am sure there are a lot of people out there who just want to use it from time to time. If an app wants internet it just goes and gets it!
Having said that, even with CSD, it will still dial out when it wants. To get around that problem I created 2 profiles, one of which doesn't have a userid and password. I set the default profile to the one without userid. That way if something tries to get internet access it first asks the user to enter their userid and password - in effect it safeguards against a rogue dial out.
I personally don't use GPRS as I found out that my CSD access will use my free minutes. Since I hardly use my phone for voice calls I may as well make use of the free minutes for internet access.

Ok did some searching around ppcsg, apparently you can turn off GRPS by pressing the RED button (the disconnect talk button) and holding it for a few seconds.
Or use this tool
http://www.pocketpcfreeware.com/en/index.php?soft=1123
Question is whether once the GPRS is turned off, will internet access be automatically be directed to the ActiveSync connection (assuming I'm connected via ActiveSync)

To use internet via AS you should configure 'my work network' correctly under the 'connections' settings. The 'my isp' connection is meant for dial-up & gprs access to the internet.
Sadly can't tell how to do it in detail as my magician is my wireless modem & at work the connection isn't allowed. Maybe the help files are of any use in this.
Cheers, M

yes, mine, just automatically uses my internet connection thro' my PC with AS, but as soon as I disconnect from my PC, my Qtek switches over to GPRS.. which is pretty cool.

dood, care to share how you achieve this?

I suppose the question is, if you are connected to a PC which is on the internet, why would you want internet access on the Magician anyway? Why not just use Thunderbird or other web browser?
Outlook will sync the inbox for e-mail when connected via activesync...

The joy of surfing the net while watching TV lying on the bed..can't really do that wth a laptop..too heavy

Connection preference settings

Hi,
I have had a search to see if this has been covered before but maybe I am using the wrong query.
I have an O2 Exec with the latest O2 Rom, and now when I do an email send and receive, the GPRS connection stays up. Whereas I could have sworn in the earlier ROM it disconnected after the send/receive.
I spoke to O2 and they assured me that it is supposed to do that, and since I only get charged for actaul data transfer, I can sit connected to GPRS all day for free (is this correct).
Now, my main question is. Say GPRS is up and connected, and I turn on WIFI or plug into my PC using the charger/sync cable and then do a send and receive. Will the Exec use these free connections or still route data over the GPRS?
I did a test and it looked as though when I did this, the GPRS connection was shut down, as after a send/receive and then disable WIFI, the connection setting showed a large U and not the connected icon.
I am now sitting with a GPRS connection active, email is set to manual and I have Pocket Weather set to 'Auto update on connection' and 'Auto update on Active Sync', but 'Use connection manager' is disabled as is 'Force a connect when not available'.
Should this mean that no data is used at all and that I can sit connected at no cost.
Sorry for the long rambling post, but I am a complete newbie to all this GPRS pda thing.
regards,
/Mad

related question - how to stop gprs connecting automatically
My wifi router at home is dodgy and sometimes the signal drops - this means my exec switches over automatically to GPRS (I'm not in a 3G area) and starts whacking up a big data bill before I realise. Is there anyway of getting it to ask me if I want to connect to GPRS - rather than it just telling me thats what its doing? Can't turn the phone off cos I still need to receive calls.
I did think of just scarmbling my connection settings, but now I've upgraded to the latest O2 rom the connections settings page does not show any existing connections! (I also can't get TomTom to run at all now but I guess I'll work through that one :-( )
Thanks,
John

I believe this is what you are looking for. Y
ou can set which connections programs use for thier internet access in Settings -> Connections -> Connections -> Advanced, Select Networks.
Choosing My Work Network or My ISP should stop programs sucking up your money.

Thanks PReDiToR I've tried that but it then gives me a 'cannot connect' popup instead of using the wifi - it seems as if there has to be an accessible gprs connection for it to ignore before it will try wifi :-o
What does everyone else do? Maybe you're all rich or the company pays for your data?
Thanks

Any luck yet with the GPRS / WiFi issue?? I have got the sam
webbyfoot said:
Thanks PReDiToR I've tried that but it then gives me a 'cannot connect' popup instead of using the wifi - it seems as if there has to be an accessible gprs connection for it to ignore before it will try wifi :-o
What does everyone else do? Maybe you're all rich or the company pays for your data?
Thanks
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Any luck yet with the GPRS / WiFi issue?? I have got the same problem

Derrr...
EDIT: Hey I've just read what I've written below and its exavctly what Preditor suggested - funny didn't work when I tried ........ I guess it was because I was trying 'My ISP' without gprs settings - which complained - whereas 'My Work Network' without gprs settings allows the wifi to connect ... :?
I've now got a workaround for this - means going through the menus every time I DO want GPRS data - but thats rare till I get a better contract which will have to wait till my 12 months with O2 is up in November.. web'n'walk sounds good - unlimited gprs :-o - (could T-Mobile really tell when I was using my XDa as a modem for my laptop - which is forbidden in the terms of this contarct - and when I was just usng data for its own programs - which is allowed ??)
Anyway what I do is settings>connections>advanced>Select Networks> choose My Work Network for programs connecting to the internet. I have no gprs settings in My Work Network but it connects to wifi no problem.
So when I forget and I'm out of wifi range I get an error that it can't connect, so change the setting back to 'MY ISP' and GPRS kicks in.
A Today Screen shortcut to the Network Management screen would help - but I'm almost always using wifi so I haven't bothered.
John

Problem with WLAN

I have connected my WM6 Hermes to our WLAN network, but I cannot access the internet. And yes, I am 100% sure I am connected and have put in the WEP key and everything.
When I try to go to a webpage, it says, "The page cannot be displayed or downloaded because the connection was lost. Please check the connection and try again."
So I check the connection and sure enough, I am connected fine.

are you using any proxy's on your internet to connect?
if so, configure them in your hermes

no I don't use any proxies, it is just regular Wi-Fi... when I look under wifi in the Connections section of Settings it says I am connected to my network, and I was playing around with the "Connections" app in that section and I all I could do was edit some stuff about my Media Net or 3G connection.

the icons on the top bar clearly shows what connection is being used as active data connection
the manual describe what each icon mean
you should be able to force it to use other connections then gprs
in
settings->connections->connections->advanced-Select network

alright I got it to work, I disabled some IEEE EAP stuff, but now it only remains connected for like 10 seconds, about long enough for me to open 1 webpage, even though the icon at the top still says my Wi-Fi is used as my active data collection

Wifi instead of Data connection

I have been trying for a long time trying to figure out a way to use Samsung Omnia Pro b7610 wifi connection for all applications which require internet connection like windows update, widgets, browsing internet. No matter what i do, it doesnt work, although I managed to somehow use wifi for browsing internet by using IE but no other service. When I go to "Manage my connection", it shows me no option for making a wifi connection, it only shows make/edit modem connection, VPN, proxy settings and if i go to advance settings it shows my GPRS connections only for editing, if I want to make a new connection, it asks me for dialing properties only related to modem.
Please help me out, what should I do. Another thing on the top bar where all the icons are displayed for network, battery, there is an "E" in a box, as far as I think it is my GPRS connection/data connection, but when I click on this icon it takes me to network settings where there is no option for disabling it, like it does in case of wifi icon.
Regards
Inder

when you create/edit your gprs setting, you need to make sure in the "select a modem", you are using GPRS. Then you will need to setup your access point. I.E., Tmobile would be either internet2.voicestream.com or wap.voicestream.com.

i have all the GPRS settings, which my service provider sent me and I saved them. It shows all the info like access point, user name, password but my problem is not this, I do not want to use GPRS at all, instead I want my wifi to be my default connection for all internet related tasks, I want to disable GPRS.
The icon for GPRS at top task bar which is "E" in a box, does not disappear no matter what I do, I want to pay for GPRS charges for accessing internet instead I want to use wifi for this purpose, please help me out to disable this E icon, when I click on it, it takes to network settings, where all the settings are like Select band, select network -manual/automatic, wifi, 3g- which I have turned off, no GPRS enable or disable function.
My problem is simple, i want to use wifi as a default connection like we do on our PC/laptop, so that all the applications which need internet access can use wifi instead of GPRS or data connection.
Regards

i have managed the same problem with a freeware named NoData
there you can enable & disable GPRS/WAP connections
google for 'modaco nodata'