Can anyone tell me how i can force a GPRS/3G connection. At present i am using Thunderhawk II to browse the internet from my M5000 but this application does not automatically open an internet connection using GPRS/3G when i am not using WiFi. I have to open PIE first before the device will connect to the internet and then open Thunderhawk. This is a pain. Any advice? Can anyone create a little Today app to do this?
......and unlike PPC 2003, WM5 does not allow you to open a data connection by tapping on the 'G' or 'U' symbols at the top of the screen. Why not??????
go into connections and locate the connection settings you are looking for, press and hold, tap connect.
Thanks for the reply but going through the following routine everytime i need to browse is hardly convenient:
Start
Settings
Connections
Connections
Orange World: Manage existing connections
Orange GPRS Internet
Connect
Is there no way of achieving this from the Today screen?
nope
connections, or use PIE as you have indicated.
Try PhoneAlarm to force GPRS connection
I seem to recall that PhoneAlarm has a route to forcing GPRS to connect. Certainly works with my Universal. It's not always shown on the available skins, but if I use HGS6VGA CAR skin file GPRS connection is forced by clicking on one of the displayed icons. Not sure of the code this icon click invokes, but it does launch GPRS on my device.
I just bought the new T-Mobile (USA) MDA a couple days ago, a version of the HTC Wizard.
I have been able to connect with GPRS/EDGE, and seem to be getting EDGE speed, which is nice (my first EDGE phone).
However, no such luck with Wi-fi.
At my house, I can easily connect, at all times, with a few different wi-fi networks, with my wi-fi enabled laptop, and with my older PPC--an IPAQ 2210, with Spectec SDIO Wi-Fi card, can browse the web via Wi-Fi, etc.
The MDA does connect to Wi-FI, appears to be connected to it. (After turning it on in Connection Manager, of course.) But I cannot access any web sites with it. On trying to do so with PIE, I always get the error message:
"The page cannot be displayed or downloaded because the connection was lost, Check the connection and try again later."
I have not once been able to access one web site via Wi-Fi, with the MDA.
Can anyone help with this?
Thank you.
I ahve the same problem and have not figured out how to solve this...
Can anyone help us?
same problem here, also with t-mobile as provider. can it be a problem related to t-mobile???
me said:
I just bought the new T-Mobile (USA) MDA a couple days ago, a version of the HTC Wizard.
I have been able to connect with GPRS/EDGE, and seem to be getting EDGE speed, which is nice (my first EDGE phone).
However, no such luck with Wi-fi.
At my house, I can easily connect, at all times, with a few different wi-fi networks, with my wi-fi enabled laptop, and with my older PPC--an IPAQ 2210, with Spectec SDIO Wi-Fi card, can browse the web via Wi-Fi, etc.
The MDA does connect to Wi-FI, appears to be connected to it. (After turning it on in Connection Manager, of course.) But I cannot access any web sites with it. On trying to do so with PIE, I always get the error message:
"The page cannot be displayed or downloaded because the connection was lost, Check the connection and try again later."
I have not once been able to access one web site via Wi-Fi, with the MDA.
Can anyone help with this?
Thank you.
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I have exactly the same problem
I guess you could try going under "Settings" "Connections" "Network Card" and make sure your network card is set to connect to "The Internet"
Select your wireless card and then make sure the drop down says "The Internet" and hit ok.
Also, make sure your GPRS Connection settings aren't setup to use T-Mobile's proxy. When your gprs is setup to use a proxy for web browsing, PIE will attempt to use the proxy with any connection. And by proxy, I'm not talking about an APN or anything.
Are you running security on your router? If so try shutting it off to test or try to connect to someone elses WiFi network to test.
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I guess you could try going under "Settings" "Connections" "Network Card" and make sure your network card is set to connect to "The Internet"
Select your wireless card and then make sure the drop down says "The Internet" and hit ok.
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I spoke with a TMob customer service rep about this a couple weeks ago, and this is basically what he told me to do. A T-Mobile HotSpot (Starbucks, etc) should work without making any changes. But if you want to use your own WiFi connection, you have to do the following:
Start Menu -> Settings -> Connections Tab -> Connections Icon
Select Advanced Tab -> Select Networks
Change first dropdown to "My Work Network".
Click OK, OK.
Then when you want to roam with GPRS/EDGE again, you have to change it back to "T-Mobile GPRS".
Very annoying to say the least. If anyone knows a better way to do this, I'd love to hear about it.
This works for me:
Start Menu -> Settings -> Connections Tab -> Connections Icon
Select Advanced Tab -> Select Networks
Change the first dropdown to My Work Network
Change the second dropdown to T-Mobile GPRS
Make sure My Work Network is set to connect to the internet, but has NO proxy settings.
Make sure T-Mobile GRPS is set to connect to the internet, but HAS proxy settings.
Magic!
frycow, you rock!!
That worked perfectly!! I hated that I had to keep switching networks whenever I wanted to go online via GPRS or wifi!!
Thanks!!!
frycow,
wow. that sounds great. but I can't get it working. could you take a couple minutes to walk me (and I'm sure others too) through your exact settings? especially the proxy settings.
thanks!
frycow is a freakin champ....that did the trick!! I've been WAITING to get this working!!
AHHHH, AND IT FINALLY GOT MY POCKET MSN TO START WORKING TOO!!!! Still doesn't work on GPRS, but it certainly works on Wi-Fi!! I suppose the last thing would be to get it working on both!! regardless, this is SWEET!!
I can´t get it working :evil:
When I Change the first dropdown to My Work Network and after that tryn to sync without having wifi enabled, the device does not connect with GPRS..., solutions...
frycow, hazchem, djswivel:
Could one of you help out Paltkugen and I? Both of us can't get it working. If you could let us know the specific settings, including the proxy settings, I would really appreciate it. Its so frustrating to know it works for some people, but not being able to get it going.
Thanks!
I did EXACTLY what fry posted....follow this carefully
Start Menu -> Settings -> Connections Tab -> Connections Icon
Select Advanced Tab -> Select Networks
Change the first dropdown to My Work Network
Change the second dropdown to T-Mobile GPRS
Click Edit on the My Work Network dropdown -> Proxy Settings Tab
Check the first box (This network connects to the internet), but NOT the second (This network uses a proxy server to connect to the internet)
Now do the same for the T-Mobile GRPS settins in the edit menu, only check both boxes this time. Then type in 216.155.165.50 as the proxy server. From there you should be good.
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I did EXACTLY what fry posted....follow this carefully
Start Menu -> Settings -> Connections Tab -> Connections Icon
Select Advanced Tab -> Select Networks
Change the first dropdown to My Work Network
Change the second dropdown to T-Mobile GPRS
Click Edit on the My Work Network dropdown -> Proxy Settings Tab
Check the first box (This network connects to the internet), but NOT the second (This network uses a proxy server to connect to the internet)
Now do the same for the T-Mobile GRPS settins in the edit menu, only check both boxes this time. Then type in 216.155.165.50 as the proxy server. From there you should be good.
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That is exactly what I did too. Just tried it again and I can't use GPRS to surf. I have Wifi turned off. GPRS is not connected. I open PIE and go to some URL (google.com). GPRS starts connecting and successfully connects to T-Mobile GPRS.
Then, for about 30-60 seconds, the status bar says "Locating". Then an alert pops up that says "The page cannot be displayed or downloaded because the connection was lost. Check the connection and try again later."
Next, I turn on WiFi. It conects to my local WiFi network. It is still connected to T-Mobile GPRS too. I go back to PIE. As soon as I try to goto a URL, the GPRS connection drops, and again it says "Locating..." for a while. Then the same alert pops up again.
So now that GPRS isn't connected and just WiFi, I try going to the URL again. Same results.
Next I try turning off WiFi. Now there are no connections. I restart WiFi and there is just a WiFi connection. Same results in PIE.
I thought maybe the proxy is the problem, so I turned off the proxy in GPRS. When I do this, the checkbox "This network connects to the internet" won't stay checked. Even if I check it and click ok, when I go back it is unchecked. And when I did this, I couldn't even connect with GPRS. And with WiFi on, it would connect to Wifi, but going to a page would immediately pop up an alert that says "Cannot Connect with current connection settings. To change you connection settings, tap Settings."
I added the proxy back in and then tried changing the GPRS access point name from wap.voicestream.com to internet2.voicestream.com and internet3.voicestream.com. internet2 wouldn't even make a connection, but internet3 did. however, i still couldn't locate pages in PIE. So I changed it back to wap. I think my unlimited GPRS plan is configured the VPN way, so I remember having to use internet2 or internet3 in the past.
Could the proxy server not be working right for me? Is it possible that I cannot locate the proxy because I'm configured in a non-standard way (with a different access point - internet3) than most?
I think I'll call tmo and see if I can get changed to the regular AP (wap). I'm not using VPN stuff right now anyway. If anyone has other ideas, please let me know.
Thanks again!
I think i have a work around. but involes changing it back and forth when switching btwn wifi and gprs..
created two connections.
one with proxy and one without.
im only able to surf gprs with proxy.
when connecting via GPRS set both networks to connect to PROXY.
when using WiFi, set both networks to connect using NOPROXY.
that should work. at least it worked for me. tried only 2 pages and it loaded for both. GPRS used myvoicestream and wifi google.
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I have Wifi turned off. GPRS is not connected. I open PIE and go to some URL (google.com). GPRS starts connecting and successfully connects to T-Mobile GPRS.
Then, for about 30-60 seconds, the status bar says "Locating". Then an alert pops up that says "The page cannot be displayed or downloaded because the connection was lost. Check the connection and try again later."
Next, I turn on WiFi. It conects to my local WiFi network. It is still connected to T-Mobile GPRS too. I go back to PIE. As soon as I try to goto a URL, the GPRS connection drops, and again it says "Locating..." for a while. Then the same alert pops up again.
So now that GPRS isn't connected and just WiFi, I try going to the URL again. Same results.
Next I try turning off WiFi. Now there are no connections. I restart WiFi and there is just a WiFi connection. Same results in PIE.
I thought maybe the proxy is the problem, so I turned off the proxy in GPRS. When I do this, the checkbox "This network connects to the internet" won't stay checked. Even if I check it and click ok, when I go back it is unchecked. And when I did this, I couldn't even connect with GPRS. And with WiFi on, it would connect to Wifi, but going to a page would immediately pop up an alert that says "Cannot Connect with current connection settings. To change you connection settings, tap Settings."
I added the proxy back in and then tried changing the GPRS access point name from wap.voicestream.com to internet2.voicestream.com and internet3.voicestream.com. internet2 wouldn't even make a connection, but internet3 did. however, i still couldn't locate pages in PIE. So I changed it back to wap. I think my unlimited GPRS plan is configured the VPN way, so I remember having to use internet2 or internet3 in the past.
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Earlier today I had been trying to get VM Net Browser or Resco File Explorer to work, and they *were* working, albeit very sporadically. Sometimes I could see whole windows network complete with shared files and directories, other times I could browse to my computer and it wouldn't show anything as being shared. Looking for a solution, i found this thread.
I followed the recommendations of the previous posts and got exactly the same results as yowzator, including the weird thing with the "This network connects to the internet" checkbox unchecking. My GPRS access point is also named wap.voicestream.com - not sure if that matters.
However, I know that I was having at least partial wi-fi success before trying this fix or I wouldn't be able to have seen my home network. So I gave up on this fix and put everything back to the default - GPRS for programs that automatically connect to the internet, no proxy, and My Work Network for programs that automatically connect toa private network, with "This network connects to the internet" unchecked because it's impossible to check it and expect it to stay checked.
I tried surfing around to a few pages with wifi only (connections shows me connected to my network, I turned off the phone icon in the comm settings, and tapping on the connectivity icon on the taskbar didn't have GPRS listed) and amazingly, some of them worked - though the "locating" process seemed to take a while, they sometimes seemed to load faster than with GPRS (especially if I let my MDA go to sleep and then turn it back on again).
And then they don't work again, without me doing anything. So I don't think the fix we've been trying is a true fix to the problem - if it was then then pages would *never* load with the proxy disabled. Right?
I've been wondering if the "modem" tab under My Work Network is supposed to be blank . . . even if it's using wifi it seems like a poor UI design to not have a checkbox or something saying "this connection is for wifi and not dialup".
I am using the 2.17 ROM update. My wireless router is a D-link DI-624 extreme g. I'm using WEP encryption.
I am crying . . . tears . . . of confusion.
SOLUTION!?
This works for me (suggested in another thread):
1. Add the following to the registry:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\COMM\TIACXWLN1\PARMS:
DWORD dot11SupportedRateMaskG=8
(Note that there is already a key in the registry called "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\COMM\TIACXWLN1\PARMS: DWORD dot11SupportedRateMask=1" - you should leave this alone)
2. Do a soft reset.
3. Go to your wi-fi settings -> Power Mode tab -> Best Performance (without this step it didn't work for me)
4. Turn on wi-fi and connect to anything in internet explorer. It should seem blazing fast compared to GPRS.
Note that this assumes you haven't done any of the fixes in this thread. That is to say, leave it with GPRS for programs that automatically connect to the internet (with no proxy), and My Work Network for programs that automatically connect to a private network, with "This network connects to the internet" unchecked because it's impossible to check it and expect it to stay checked.
So far (for a few minutes anyway) this is working for me! Even Resco File Explorer seems to mostly work - I can map my PC's shared folders and see my stuff reliably, as far as I can tell. VM Net Browser is still wonky though.
The thread this solution comes from is http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=38898&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc
Hi,
tried that solution
(I have a thread below)
still falls over on "locate".
I have no home network so I have never got anything working - connects fine on a public hotspot, but as I say, fails on locate.
I've had enough - may either phone T-mobile pay CS - something I really don't want to do out of principle - or just send teh phone back.
any new info on this? can seem to get it to work.
i have configures it many ways as suggested above. only time i was able to browse on wifi was with no proxie was set up. i connect through another network, (the mda automatically hooks you up to all avalible networks) but that only lasted a few minutes.
is there even a chance i could someone at tmobile even help me??? anyone here call them and get got service/help with getting it to work?
thanks
skot
How do you select what network connection to use? 99% of the time I only ever want the phone to connect to the internet over Wifi (or bluetooth/cable connection to the computer) and not using Cingular's network. There is the occasional time that I would like to enable that but most of the time I want to only use the Wifi. Where can I set so it doesn't connect to Cingular accidentally (say if I'm out of Wifi range or hit the wrong button) so i don't get large data charges?
Thanks
In connexion option set default internet connexion as "my work network" and privat network default as "my work network" as well.
So lemme just confirm something - unless I configure server settings on the a HTC TyTN (using stock rom) on the Cingular network - it will not be able to use Cingulars network right? The only time I will be able to access the internet with the phone is over wifi, bluetooth connection (or USB) with an internet enabled computer. Otherwise the internet will not function and I will not be charged data charges correct?
I don't really ever find myself using the internet on a phone when I'm away from home so I can't justify the expense of the data service but I work on a few websites that I'd like to look good on a cellphone so that's my main reason for wanting internet access on it - so while I'm at work I can log into the wifi system and test the site while I'm tweaking the code.
Am I correct in assuming that I shouldn't be charged under this situation?
Hi, I'm on Vodafone and I made the changes fun_key posted without noting down the original settings. Please can someone tell me what the default settings are for internet connection and private network connection. Thanks
Dear ALL,
I need to know how to disable data Connection (Edge, 3G), because my device sometimes connect to Edge or 3G service automatically, I dont have any running programms that needs data connection or auto update !!!
At the same time I want my phone to connect only when recieving MMS messages !
Please advice !
Hi there,
you can install 'HD Tweak' and Disable the items in 'Data (GPRS/EDGE/HSDPA)'.
You can also try Nodata application from Modaco
=> http://www.modaco.com/content/pocket-pc-software/246171/new-free-utility-nodata/
Edit : Caution, Nodata stop ALL data (MMS too) so cymagnus's solution is better
nodsata can toggle mms on/off.
I cant get that HD Tweak to open, all i get is a long page full of codes and such, any suggestions?
johseph said:
I cant get that HD Tweak to open, all i get is a long page full of codes and such, any suggestions?
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Have you installed the .NET Compact Framework?
ahmadddd said:
Dear ALL,
I need to know how to disable data Connection (Edge, 3G), because my device sometimes connect to Edge or 3G service automatically, I dont have any running programms that needs data connection or auto update !!!
At the same time I want my phone to connect only when recieving MMS messages !
Please advice !
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Can you not do it manually like this? Start/Settings/Connections Tab/Connections button/Advanced tab/Select Networks button. Then in the pop up where it says "Programs that automatically connect to the Internet should connect using:
Select "MY ISP".
I think MMS will still run?
I have done it and it works, thanx alot
ahmadddd said:
I have done it and it works, thanx alot
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ahmad which way worked for u??, i think if u go to phone, options, band, select your network choose GSM, THAT will solve the problem
It's very easy and you don't need any tools!
Just go to Start--> Settings --> Connections --> Connections --> Advanced --> Secelct Networks and select 'My Work Network' from the dropdown menus.
after selecting "my work network," my main screen still shows the icon "E" does it mean anything?
maati said:
It's very easy and you don't need any tools!
Just go to Start--> Settings --> Connections --> Connections --> Advanced --> Secelct Networks and select 'My Work Network' from the dropdown menus.
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Having loaded Nodata and then Tweak and found it also had a 'nodata' element I then discovered the HD built in Connection settings.
Seems to work fine.
Cheers
Alan
s0ysaucechicken said:
after selecting "my work network," my main screen still shows the icon "E" does it mean anything?
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Means you have an EDGE connection.
nodata its good and works fine on my HD
Hi. I'm not shure what you wanted to do but i'm having the following problem:
In network management if I have selected "programs ...that connect to the internet should use->Mobile Internet" then it allways uses this connection, even if i'm on wifi....and that's not good for me. If i select "my work network" and i'm not connected to wifi, it doesn't go to gprs.
I don't want to manualy set Data connection off every time i'm on wifi and then turn on when i want to use gprs/3g.
How do you do it?
oz666 said:
Hi. I'm not shure what you wanted to do but i'm having the following problem:
In network management if I have selected "programs ...that connect to the internet should use->Mobile Internet" then it allways uses this connection, even if i'm on wifi....and that's not good for me. If i select "my work network" and i'm not connected to wifi, it doesn't go to gprs.
I don't want to manualy set Data connection off every time i'm on wifi and then turn on when i want to use gprs/3g.
How do you do it?
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If you select "Programs that automatically connect to the internet should connect using "yourproviderGPRS" (or whatever you have got that is relevant to data connection) it should connect to the internet using WIFI when WIFI is enabled and GPRS when WIFI is off. That's how mine works anyway. If I set it to "my ISP" GPRS will not autimatically connect until I manually change the settings. Hope that makes sense.
It maybe is a poor mans solution, but whenever I travel abroad I simply switch to a copy of my active account in which I deleted the password of my dataconnection. That way i am sure it won't connect. Whenever it tries to connect it will simply ask for the pw first.
You are on an active data connection only when you see the "E" as part of the 4 bars cell phone signal icon.
Not sure ? Then just tap the title bar where you see the "E" and the grey "System Status" screen comes on. here, tap on the "E" icon here and you will see the connectivity status message that says something like "No active connections" or similar.
Basically the E means that you are on "EDGE" signal.
Hope this helps !!
Cheers !!
saintalan said:
Having loaded Nodata and then Tweak and found it also had a 'nodata' element I then discovered the HD built in Connection settings.
Seems to work fine.
Cheers
Alan
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Has anybody worked out who has the final say?
I have the Standard Built In Connections, NoData and HDTweak.
From what I can see the Built in gets overridden, i.e. with Built In set to Off using the Internet outside of a WiFi area, stills connects via the cell network.
I think adjusting the settings as suggested previously is the best route.
Alan
Hi there kind people of XDA.
after installing a new rom I encouter a problem with setting up my gmail account. It seems as if the HTC mail client isn't willing to work with my wifi connection and only working with the data (which is disabled).
when I send/recieve, it tells me that it cannot connect and that I should press - settings. After going into settings I have 3 options for my work connection.
the first one is where I think the problem is:
*add a new modem connection.
after I chose that I've been asked to choose a modem and I dont have a wifi ot the broadcom lan card. only bluetooth, cellular line, cellular line (GPRS) and hayes compatible on COM1.
Any idea?
go to settings, connections, connections, advanced, select networks. Then change the first setting to 'work'. I have a dutch version, so the names might be slightly different.
thanks but I already tried it. The problem is that when setting up a new connection I cant use the broadcom as the connection modem!
Now I know my phone isnt using the same network as you. I have only one cellular account that I connect to. For this example I will call it "My Connection" I have that set in Network management to be the default connection for the internet.
Now when I go to my email connection settings I can choose that connection or a few others. If I choose "My Connection" then the email will only connect though cellular data. But if I choose "Internet" then it will connect through both.
So when I have wifi present I can connect with email, mms, surf with opera, and update weather all through wifi. When my wifi goes down or gets turned off everything reverts to cellular data.
ditto - on 1.48 i get 'Internet' as well as the T-mobile internet and T-mobile MMS settings. internet seems to latch onto anything that has a public ip - and starts with wifi.
I have found that one thing which stops email sync is not wifi/HSDPA data, but rather the exchange domain setting disappearing sporadically.
do u have bsb tweaks the same thing happend to me and in bsb i had wifi disable go in bsb and enable it.
please see if at
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=639730
you find something which may be of help.