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Blackberry Connect Behaviour

Questions for people using the blackberry connect software:
I want to sign up for cingular's blackberry service, especially since I am overseas more often than not for work.
(Some of these are questions, some are assumptions. just trying to get some info )
My question(s) are:
1) Blackberry connect acts as your internet connection, right?
2) Does anyone use it and get a UMTS connection instead of GPRS?
3) Does your hermes act like it has a normal connection? (in other words, if I turn on Blackberry connect, can I use other progs which use that net connection - say Flexmail 2007 or IE or somesuch)
4) Does the blackberry stuff use the existing calendar /addressbook programs on the hermes, or does it use it's own? (assuming it's own)
Thanks for the help. Wondering if I can sign up for the blackberry service and basically get a flat fee rate on data when I am in Europe, etc.

derrumbe said:
Questions for people using the blackberry connect software:
I want to sign up for cingular's blackberry service, especially since I am overseas more often than not for work.
(Some of these are questions, some are assumptions. just trying to get some info )
My question(s) are:
1) Blackberry connect acts as your internet connection, right?
2) Does anyone use it and get a UMTS connection instead of GPRS?
3) Does your hermes act like it has a normal connection? (in other words, if I turn on Blackberry connect, can I use other progs which use that net connection - say Flexmail 2007 or IE or somesuch)
4) Does the blackberry stuff use the existing calendar /addressbook programs on the hermes, or does it use it's own? (assuming it's own)
Thanks for the help. Wondering if I can sign up for the blackberry service and basically get a flat fee rate on data when I am in Europe, etc.
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1. BB Connect uses your internet connection.
2. BB Connect only connects while under a GPRS/GSM/EDGE connection. In other words, you will need to force your connection or while in a GPRS area to use GSM only. You can do this within the connection Band settings.
3. You can use the internet connection from any program while BB Connect is running. However, Since BB Connect is a lower priority connection, applications like pIE, etc. will take a higher priority over BB Connect and force the BB Connect client to idle while it waits for the connection. This is an automatic process.
4. BB Connect will uses the built in PIM applications (Pocket Outlook, etc.)
Cingular has a few Blackberry plans including a unlimited plan.

thanks for the response.
So that doesn't sound as good as I was hoping.
I was hoping that Blackberry would be a conduit for the rest of my applications to use, instead of being one of many apps using one network connection.
So much for cost savings and/or surfing the net via blackberry connect.

derrumbe said:
thanks for the response.
So that doesn't sound as good as I was hoping.
I was hoping that Blackberry would be a conduit for the rest of my applications to use, instead of being one of many apps using one network connection.
So much for cost savings and/or surfing the net via blackberry connect.
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I am assuming I understand your connection question. BB Connect is no different then other applications that use a internet connection. BB Connect uses the internet connection to connect and pull down mail. Other apps don't use BB Connect to get a connection. If you have a BB plan, that will allow you to have a connection not only for email, but for any app (i.e. Internet Explorer)

hmmm... interesting point.
What you are saying is that from cing's point of view, my device would be a "blackberry" although it would actually be a hermes.
What I would have to figure out is if cingular filters out connections so that you can only connect to the blackberry server....

derrumbe said:
hmmm... interesting point.
What you are saying is that from cing's point of view, my device would be a "blackberry" although it would actually be a hermes.
What I would have to figure out is if cingular filters out connections so that you can only connect to the blackberry server....
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That's correct. Cingular has no idea nor cares what device you are using. They actually sell devices like the Nokia E62 (BB Connect preinstalled) and Treo 650 which has the BB Connect software available for download.

brmcguire said:
1. BB Connect uses your internet connection.
2. BB Connect only connects while under a GPRS/GSM/EDGE connection. In other words, you will need to force your connection or while in a GPRS area to use GSM only. You can do this within the connection Band settings.
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Interesting, so BB Connect or the BB network is not compatible with UMTS? What are the symptoms BB Connect displays when UMTS is active?
I played around with this yesterday on cingular USA, but could not get the Connect software to connect, instead it would say network available then fall back to "suspended by user". BIS account creation wouldn't recognize my PIN&IMEI combo.
Thought this was a show stopper, but perhaps it's not.
Thanks

yeah, it only works with GSM - you have to force the band away from utms.
if you go over on howard forums and look in the cingular section, you can find info - I think that I saw that error mentioned....

mooney6023 said:
Interesting, so BB Connect or the BB network is not compatible with UMTS? What are the symptoms BB Connect displays when UMTS is active?
I played around with this yesterday on cingular USA, but could not get the Connect software to connect, instead it would say network available then fall back to "suspended by user". BIS account creation wouldn't recognize my PIN&IMEI combo.
Thought this was a show stopper, but perhaps it's not.
Thanks
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When BB Connect is fully connected to the BES/BIS it will display 4 dots. For some reason, and I don't know why is that the BB Connect client doesn't like a UMTS connection. It might have todo with how GPRS/GSM holds a connection. Here is a handy link for connection status indications.
As far as the BIS registration, you will need to create a NEW account on the Cingular BIS site. Then you will be able to register your device and BB Connect.
http://www.dopodasia.com/resource/sea/bbc_web/connection.html

derrumbe said:
3) Does your hermes act like it has a normal connection? (in other words, if I turn on Blackberry connect, can I use other progs which use that net connection - say Flexmail 2007 or IE or somesuch)
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No personal experience, but folks on HoFo say BB Connect is killing the internet connection for other programs like PIE:
http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=1044755
Richard

rsolomon said:
No personal experience, but folks on HoFo say BB Connect is killing the internet connection for other programs like PIE:
http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=1044755
Richard
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Hi there, sorry to be so unspecific, but at least I wanted to share my experience
German O2 XDA/HERMES recent, used in Belgium with a Company BB service from Proximus, using BB connect 2.16 usually via UMTS, but when roaming also via GPRS; never forced it to GSM.
It is very slow! so you need to be patient; 1 min waiting until everything has re-connected is not unusual.
I remember that I had the same issue of BB Connect monopolizing the internet connection so that Skype not even started and IE was not able to connect to the internet neither.
After a cold reset and re-installation of everything it works now to expectations:
BB C is usually always on and on UMTS
When starting IE, a pop up apprears saying, connecting to ...
that's when BBC goes 'offline' Symbol :!
I can then surf the Internet
You must TERMINATE IE, not just leave it running in the background
After some time, BBC will automatically re-connect. If you try to speed up, it will complain that the connection is still blocked by another program.
I believe that BB C creates another hidden connection which is not visible in the connection folder, but if you use fit4cat, there is a tweak for 'force connection always on' and there I can see Blackberry as connection
I did not notice any handling difference between UMTS or GPRS.
HOWEVER
I have another problem as following:
I carefully checked the BB C services, but I cannot get any synchronisation of deleted mails, neither when I deletem them on the Desktop, nor when I deleted them on the Mobile.
Any experience with that ??
Rgds
hk.

I'm using BB Connect with a Vario II on TMUK.
When BB Service is on, I am connected through the blackberry.net APN, but via UMTS. If I want to browse, check POP3 email or do anything else, I have to be connected through the TMUK Internet Access Point, which is how I access Web 'N Walk and my unlimited data allowance. This, of course, interrupts my BB connection.
I believe it should be possible to use the blackberry.net APN for web-surfing as well because on RIM devices, all data goes through the BB APN. However, if I try to manually set up a new connection with the blackberry.net APN and route data traffic through it, it doesn't work.
So, not quite sure, but it should be possible to use the blackberry bundle on whatever network as the conduit for data traffic that one of the posters here was referring to - might just need a chat with tech support at your network.
Dave

other post says BBC does not support MDS, so you cannot surf using blackberry.net (not sure what MDS is, but guess it is in a real BB)
also can confirm that I have to suspend the Blackberry GPRS/EDGE connection before IE and POP3 mail will work - both GPRS connections (Blackberry and normal GPRS) are active, but the Blasckberry one seems to have priority
using HTC P3300 and TMO BBC client 2.1.2.31

ive been using BBConnect on both the XDA Exec and the V1605 for well over a year, it will connect to the BB Server using whatever PHONE network band is available e.g. UMTS if in a good Vodafone signal area or it will step back to GPRS if it doesnt, there are issues when roaming on other networks which will not pass through the BB connection so for example when in Germany on a supposed Roaming Partners network BB doesnt connect. I just have to force the Phone to try to connect to VF which then obviously works albeit a low speed connection. as for using PIE whenever I try to connect it disconnects the BB Connection and connects again using the VF connection, I agree this is a bit @rse as you would have thought the applicaitons could see that there is a usable connection there and should therefore utilise it..
If anyone knows of a registry setting that can be modified to fix the connection hopping I would be interested.

Problem with BB C on Tytn
Hi, I downloaded the BB c software from Voda.de, and installed it onto my Tytn with WM5. the instalation and registering to the network was fine.
but I cant do e-mail set up... it's grayed out and I cant click it...
I also tried registering/creating an account through mobileemail.vodafone.net,
but to no avail. after I input IMEI and PIN, then create Usename and password, I get the notice, "The system has encounted an error".
I thought I might have wrong software, and to keep things simple I put WM6(Official rom from HTC) into handset, then put BB C 4 for WM6, (again from Voda.de) but to no avail. same situation.
the phone connects to BB GPRS/3G, it shows PIN, IMEI, IP.
so connection wise there doesn't seem to be problem.
but cant create an account...
anyone come across same problem??
I've been trying to figgure this out for like three days now.
Thanks to those who'll give me advice!!
BR
Timmy-Boy

Timmy-Boy said:
Hi, I downloaded the BB c software from Voda.de, and installed it onto my Tytn with WM5. the instalation and registering to the network was fine.
but I cant do e-mail set up... it's grayed out and I cant click it...
I also tried registering/creating an account through mobileemail.vodafone.net,
but to no avail. after I input IMEI and PIN, then create Usename and password, I get the notice, "The system has encounted an error".
I thought I might have wrong software, and to keep things simple I put WM6(Official rom from HTC) into handset, then put BB C 4 for WM6, (again from Voda.de) but to no avail. same situation.
the phone connects to BB GPRS/3G, it shows PIN, IMEI, IP.
so connection wise there doesn't seem to be problem.
but cant create an account...
anyone come across same problem??
I've been trying to figgure this out for like three days now.
Thanks to those who'll give me advice!!
BR
Timmy-Boy
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try this....
1) Change device ID, from Start -> Settings -> System -> About -> Device ID to HTC_TyTN
2) Edit your registry: HKLM\System\Versions\AKU key, change the key from (1.0.0) or whatever in there to .0.4.2

lve0200 said:
I have another problem as following:
I carefully checked the BB C services, but I cannot get any synchronisation of deleted mails, neither when I deletem them on the Desktop, nor when I deleted them on the Mobile.
Any experience with that ??
Rgds
hk.
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As he mentioned above I have the same problem. For regular Blackberry devices they give the advice to check the options on the messaging screen and there is setting to choose delete on handheld, both, or prompt, But I could not find any such setting in the BB client for WM6.1
BB Client is 4.0.0.97, desktop software is 4.0.0.18
Any advices?
!!! SOLVED !!!
1. Tap Start > Settings.
2. Tap the System tab.
3. Tap the BlackBerry icon.
4. Tap the Services tab.
5. Tap the BlackBerry [CMIME] service book
6. Tap the Synchronization tab.
7. Select the Enable Wireless Synchronization check box.
8. From the Conflicts drop‐down list, tap an option.
9. From the Delete on drop-down list, tap an option.

Using my T-Mobile SIM in my Dell Wireless 5520 to access GPRS/EDGE

I am using a Wizard with WM6 and internet sharing wizard to connect to the internet. It works alright. Sometimes though, it will take forever to access the any sort of internet resources. I'm wondering what the cause of this is. Is it just GPRS lag? I also have a Mobile Broadband card in my laptop, rather then just activate my cingular card I'd rather just pop my T-Mobile SIM in there and get the service. I know that I don't need to unlock this card because when I stick it in the slot and restart my computer, the utility I use to connect the card to the internet picks it up as if it was a T-Mo SIM and the T-Mo GPRS/EDGE networks. Although when I connect to it, it says I'm connected, but I can't access any web pages. The utility also says I'm sending data but not receiving any. Any ideas? The card is a Dell Wireless 5520 Cingular Mobile Broadband Card. Any ideas would be much appreciated!

try changing your server settings?
Maybe try changing the server from internet2.voicestream.com to internet3.voicestream.com or vice-versa.
Also, you may need to have the t-mobile internet plan for you to get full web page access. This is currently $30 per month I think. Maybe you already have this?
Good luck

methinks the problem lies in that you have a tmo sim but a cingular mobile broadband card.

Tired more things.
As far as trying APN's I have tried internet2.voicestream.com; internet3.voicestream.com; wap.voicestream.com
We have a full data plan that allows full access to the internet which is used to access our exchange server for emails and contacts. I have used the internet sharing wizard to play world of warcraft from my phone. I'm hoping that means that I have a full access plan. internet3.voicestream.com doesn't work on my phone for a network plan but the others do. I have also tired to use my T-Mo SIM in my wireless broadband card as a modem connection, I've found that if I connect using the call numbers that people are using for their phones modem tethering and no login credentials like you're supposed to do to initiate modem tethering. I don't get any response from the remote computer. But then I start to use some of the modem strings I get as far a Registering on the Network before my modem connection terminates! Thats the last step! do you think I could dial it as a modem connection if I had the correct int string?

fzzyrn said:
methinks the problem lies in that you have a tmo sim but a cingular mobile broadband card.
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I read somewhere that somewhere someone was able to do this but they didn't really go all in depth about it. They said to leave the login credentials empty and use the t-mobile apn. Just like you do when configuring the networks on your T-Mo phone. I also and another question. Is there a difference between using wap.voicestream.com vs. internet(2 or 3).voicestream.com? I read somewhere that there is a proxy on wap.voicestream.com, but when I looked for the forum I read that on I wasn't able to find it.

t-mobile internet (2or3).voicestream.com
I recently got the hotspots service (added for free) and in that process they told me that I had to change my apn to internet2.voicestream.com. It was internet3.voicestream.com.
Incidentally, you can add the hotspots at not extra charge if your already on the $29.99 internet plan. you just have to ask them to switch you to the mobile internet with the hotspots.

Sharing internet with a mogul?

If someone could please tell me how to - or point me to a thread with instructions to teather my Mogul to my latop so I can use internet?.. I understant that it can be dont without the data plan but I cant find any instructions anyplace.. I tried internet connection sharing but keep getting error 67 when tryimg to connect.. can anyone help me please??
Kobejim
Kinda new to the board so If you could send me a private message I might be able to find this again.. thanks

Have a look at chainfire's app which allows you to do it through wifi:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=341398

Wi-fi only?
This link appears to be wi-fi only.. will it work with the Sprint Network.. ?

Yeah, what it does is convert your Mogul's WiFi into an access point. Your laptop will access your Sprint connection as though it were connecting to your wireless router at home.

if my laptop is wireless?
I wouldnt need to use my phone if my latop is Wi-Fi.. Guess what I was wanting is a way to use my laptop using the sprint network, for when I cant get Wi-Fi.
I thought is was possable but I must have been mistaken
kobejim

kobejim2 said:
I wouldnt need to use my phone if my latop is Wi-Fi.. Guess what I was wanting is a way to use my laptop using the sprint network, for when I cant get Wi-Fi.
I thought is was possable but I must have been mistaken
kobejim
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This is the point. Your Mogul will be your WiFi access point that will use Sprint internet connection. This is for when you CANNOT get WiFi with your laptop.

OMG !
I'll try it one last time...
1. Your laptop (as you just confirmed) is capable of receiving WiFi.
2. Your Mogul receives Sprint's data connection.
Unless you are not aware, your Mogul is also capable of receiving WiFi (like your laptop). What chaninfire's program does is make your Mogul capable of SENDING a WiFi signal while connected to Sprint so that your laptop will receive it. Your laptop will be connecting to Sprint's network through Mogul's WiFi signal. In other words your Mogul becomes a wireless router.

OK. i get it... Sorry.. was confused
Didnt mean to sound like a idiot.. but I was lost thinking that I could only use Wi-Fi.. But now know I can connect to the Sprint network and using wi-fi to connect my Laptop make perfecr sense.. now if I can just figure out how to get it working.. I'll take a lok at the like you sent me.. If I remember it looked confusing but I'm sure its not as bad as it looks... thanks a lot
Kobejim

The program is super simple. I use it to connect my iPod Touch to the net.

dragon_76 said:
The program is super simple. I use it to connect my iPod Touch to the net.
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If you follow the instructions you will also unlock the internet sharing app. Once you have followed the instructions in the thread about chainfires app, to share your internet over USB,do the following.
1) terminate the activesync app on your handset
2) Run the internet sharing application
3) As soon as its done connecting,plug in the USB cable.
4) Enjoy the internet. A similar procedure can also be used to connect via bluetooth,but you get better speed over USB or via WiFi.
If you want to use wifi,you can either follow the adhoc method listed in the thread,or you can use a wireless access point. To use a wireless accesspoint,set your WAPs local IP address to 192.168.0.2 Internet connection sharing will want to be 192.168.0.1 Now you need to connect your mogul to the WiFi network,and connect your PC to the wifi network. Go into the network properties and set your pc to 192.168.0.x where x is an unused address. Set the gateway and DNS servers to 192.168.0.1 and your on the internet. As far as I know,this should work with multiple computers on your network,and it will connect up easily and seamlessly when you flip the wifi switch on your mogul.

From the WMWifiRouter topic:
Sprint HTC Mogul/SERO Notes
It seems Sprint is up to shenanigans in regards to tethering for SERO users. Those of you running Sprint ROMs should navigate to the following registry key "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\InternetSharing" and delete the string value named "Extension". This will allow you to connect to the Internet via the Internet Sharing app without the dreaded error 67/authentication errors. Previous to this fix, Mogul SERO users would have to connect to the Internet via another method (such as starting Internet Explorer first) before pressing the Connect button in the the Internet Sharing application.
If you're really paranoid (it has been concluded these entries have no meaning when using Internet Sharing), using a registry editor, navigate to the "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\OEM\WModem" key, and set the "CheckProfile", "Multi-NAI" and "WModemDUN" DWORDS to a decimal value of "0".
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WMWifiRouter does this for you automatically, but that isn't much help if you want to share via USB instead of WiFi. The above solution should work with USB as well, and the error 67 goes away. GL

on internet sharing... should it be set to phone as modem or sprint pcs?

kobejim2 said:
This link appears to be wi-fi only.. will it work with the Sprint Network.. ?
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With the Mogul you can have your Wifi card on and still be on Sprints EVDO network at the same time. Basically you are broadcasting the EVDO connection wirelessly. I use it on my laptop and get pretty good download speeds. It pretty much like using the Sprint EVDO connection data cards...You have to go into the adapter settings under the connections tab and give it a static IP address (ie 192.168.1.9)

Work with Verizon?
It seems like all of the posts speak about Sprints network, do these methods work with Verizon?
Are there any methods specific to Verizon?

I just signed up with for a SERO account and have one major question regarding the wifi router app... Does it put the phone into "tether" mode? In other words, will sprint be able to detect that you are sharing your connection or does it simply bridge the phone's EV-DO connection to its wifi connection?

armstrom said:
I just signed up with for a SERO account and have one major question regarding the wifi router app... Does it put the phone into "tether" mode? In other words, will sprint be able to detect that you are sharing your connection or does it simply bridge the phone's EV-DO connection to its wifi connection?
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It's a bridge but Sprint can always detect it if they wish. A guy over in the WMWifiRouter topic says he has been tethering for quite a while this way and hasn't gotten a bill for it.

Oh So simple.. Bluetooth connection
Well I Got my Mogul like 2 months ago and just stumbled across the internet sharing app and to my suprise it worked.... No Xtra software required
I have a macbook 13'in w 2g ram, bluetooth and all that. I use my mogul with my mac and it works like a charm wish i had EVDO in the area but it is good for now....
Step one: Pair your mogul with your computer.
Step Two: Make sure you Have a connection to the net on your mogul. Use ie to go to a page on your phone (otherwise it will say your username and pass are not right)
Step Three:Open internet sharing on your mogul. Make sure your PC connection is: Bluetooh Pan and the Network connection is: Sprint PCS
Step Four: Tap the connect tab on your phone
Step Five:After the internet sharing has a connection to the net, go to the bluetooth settings on your computer, Select you phone and connect
There you have it Tethering VIA bluetooth with no Xtra software.

here is a question.....what if i need to connect a desktop to the internet using the mogul? how do i go about that? everything is about wifi and there seems to be nothing about connecting a desktop to it.
can someone give me pretty detailed instructs on how as i have never done this before.
thanks

I use pdanet for Verizon Titan. It works very well and simple. Simply connect through usb or bluetooth and bamn..you are connected. It also does not charge you any tethering fee....but acquiring pdanet is a cost unless you can find it somewhere....

problem is I dont know how to "simply" connect through the usb. Im pretty ignorant where this stuff is concerned. is there any free ware that does what pdanet does? not that im a cheapO but hey money saved is money earned right?

Need 8525 Internet Sharing Feedback ASAP

Hey guys,
My wifi router for my home office crapped out today, so for the first time I tried to do internet sharing on my 8525.
I could not get it to connect using the My ISP GPRS setting, but it does connect with Media Net.
However, per the AT&T site, and a post I read while trying to search this here, I think I'll get hit with add'l charges setting it up this way. Is that true?
And if so, how the heck can I connect via the recommended My ISP GPRS setting??
(By the way, I don't have a Media Net plan, I have the PDA data plan/Goodlink plan).
Please help!!! Thanks!

AT&T 8525 Internet Sharing
Here are the instructions for AT&T 8525 WM6 w/USB.

LouMessina said:
Here are the instructions for AT&T 8525 WM6 w/USB.
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That's the page I was referring to in my original note since it states: "IMPORTANT: All tethering must be done over the My ISP GPRS profile or isp.cingular APN. Tethering using the default MEdia Net profile or wap.cingular APN could result in additional data charges"
I am only able to connect internet sharing when set to Media Net, which is the way it says not to do it (but no other way works).
I just want to make sure i don't get socked with some crazy extra fees for doing this this way. (I do have the pda unlimited plan/goodlink plan, so i hope I don't get any data fees)

the PDA data plan only allows you access to the media net connection, and you are not suppose to tether using the pda data plan.......which is why that warning in there. there are countless threads out there covering this........you *might* be able to find them.

AT&T 8525 Internet Sharing
Check #6 in the instructions. These instructions assume you have set up a second My ISP connection using isp.cingular instead of wap.cingular. Try searching the AT&T site, possibly for "Laptop Connect."
I have the PDA plan and have been able to use My ISP (wap.cingular) for email and My ISP (isp.cingular) for tethering with no problem.

Can I use the Hotspot access that comes in my t-mobile wing in my laptop?

I have a T-mobile Wing, unlimited GPRS internet and also comes with Hotspot.... but can i use that service in my laptop... I can use the GPRS access in my laptop but i dunno how to do with the HOTSPOT.

i would like to know if its possible as well

uchari said:
I have a T-mobile Wing, unlimited GPRS internet and also comes with Hotspot.... but can i use that service in my laptop... I can use the GPRS access in my laptop but i dunno how to do with the HOTSPOT.
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yes as long as you have activesync you will have the internet sharing setup automatically if you have problems ill help out no problem

Goto -> http://hotspot.t-mobile.com/
Setup your account it is included in your $19.99 package. Most likely you will need to call 611 and they will give you your password that you can change. The User Name is always your 10 digit phone number. After all is configured via that page all you need to do on any wifi enabled device is set you ssid to "tmobile". When you detect a Hotspot network just open up the web broswer on that device and sign in with your 10 digit username and password. That is it.

I think you are slightly confused (main poster). It sounds like you already have the unlimited plan which includes hotspot. So given that, it also says that you know how to share your gprs/edge connection by tethering it with your laptop. So the only point left for confusion is what a hotspot is. Hotspot has nothing to do with gprs/edge. It's a wifi signal at participating locations like kinkos, starbucks, ect... that you simply log in to with your wifi enabled laptop and the 1st screen it will direct you to is the tmobile hotspot webpage. Just enter your tmobile phone number and password that you use to login to the tmobile website that you already use (or should) to just pay your bill online. And then you're in the hotspot... download blissfully and much faster than edge.