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I was trying this past weekend to sell something on Craigslist. I remembered a while back that I could take a couple pics of my things to sell on my MDA and post it right from the phone. Now it doesn't work. I get this error saying that it can't process my request. I did a little homework and found out that the site has somehow blocked people from posting ads from their phones. How does the site know I'm posting from my phone?
from what i know by default your browser of choice has a name it uses to identify itself to a website. using schap's advance config 2.02.1.0.0 there is a feature u can check the broswer name, by default it is set to HTC_P4350 Mozilla/4.0 (for my wing) which i am sure website pick up as a mobile browser maybe set it to what the default IE on your computer shows.
maybe you can try using Opera Mobile and masking it as a desktop??
can Netfront do that? i have no idea....
With the Advance config version i mentioned above u can rename the browser agent and yes most websites dont pick up that opera mini is mobile ie myspace from pocket IE will display lame text groups for checking things... just based on the broswer where as opera mini 4 it picks up the normal myspace page if that makes sense.
alright. i'll give it a shot
mv3 said:
maybe you can try using Opera Mobile and masking it as a desktop??
can Netfront do that? i have no idea....
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Yes, netfront can do that.
steps..
1)go to its options>misc tab
2)edit/make a user agent as following..
Code:
title:IE
user-agent:Mozilla/4.08 (compatible; Windows NT/5.1) 6.0
appName:MSIE
appVersion:6.0
appCodeName:Mozilla
language/platform: en / Windows NT 5.1
Is it possible to install IE, I couldn't find it there. Although Opera is good for many things some sites do not display well in it (eg www.livedepartureboards.co.uk) whereas in IE they display a special low-res version automatically?
I installed TomTom and was configuring it when it asked me if I'd like to download some more maps. I clicked on yes and it brought up Internet Explorer. So it must be hidden away somewhere maybe?
Anfloyd said:
I installed TomTom and was configuring it when it asked me if I'd like to download some more maps. I clicked on yes and it brought up Internet Explorer. So it must be hidden away somewhere maybe?
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Is standard with my Touch HD
I'll just answer my own question here, thanks for suggesting it was already there, I found iexplore in the \Windows root directory.
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Is it possible to install IE, I couldn't find it there. Although Opera is good for many things some sites do not display well in it (eg www.livedepartureboards.co.uk) whereas in IE they display a special low-res version automatically?
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Hi, there is something called a "user agent" that you can specify. It's a string, that some websites are set up for (like google).
It's either that the webpage desides to send you the full or mobile version of the site depending on the user agent of your browser, or the site site has information and links for your browser to choose, depending on your user agent.
In short, you can change the user agent string of your browser (pie or opera) to match that of a browser on your xp or vista desktop, making sure your mobile browser allways loads the full page. Or you can choose not to.
Opera tends to load full pages anyway, even if the user agent is set to a kind of mobile browser, because of the zooming capabilities (pretty darn selfrightious
pie is not that smart.
google user agent for more info.
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I'll just answer my own question here, thanks for suggesting it was already there, I found iexplore in the \Windows root directory.
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alternatively, it's there in the 'All Programs' list in the bottom left corner when on the Programs slide in TF3D.
I just added it into one of the empty slots on that screen for ease of access
(Opera doesn't seem to like my works frame based webmail, but IE copes with it ok)
Netfront browser is another very good alternative. I find that it renders some website more accurately than Opera Browser. An example include cnn.com and smh.com.au.
Repost from my other post for HTC Dash (Excalibur) This version is for the Snap:
Mobile Browser for our HTC Dash 3G Snap, its called UCWEB Super Browser 6.63. This is the formal non-beta release, it is very stable (has not crached or froze up yet and I've been using it for a few days), it is very fast, has TONS of options and well (I hate to say it) is a bit better then Opera Mobile. It works flawlessly with Google (like Googles new "my location" feature on mobile search, GMail and others where Opera does not work or only half works. Security is very good and its fast as heck in rendering (it renders pages on the device not a remote server) pages and gives you the option of preformating to your devices screen size.
A quick feature summery:
Main Features:
• FREEWARE - Its free cant get better then that
• Adaptation for small screen
• Data traffic statistics
• Visited history
• Domain name quickly input
• Supporting multi-formatted file
• Supporting web local-storage
• Multi-windows browsing
• Page dynamic optimization
• Picture optimizing display
• Shortcut Keys (user defined)
• RSS Feed Subscriptions
• Built in E-mail Client for POP3 and IMAP, full support for attachments
• Comprehensive search features (user definable)
• Download Manager - Resume broken download connections
• Personal Data Manager - Saves web sites to your device, export bookmarks
All in all I give it a solid 10 out of 10
Check it out here: UCWEB6
Download the Windows Mobile 6.1 CAB file here: UCWEB6-63-300-33-09021910
I really like this browser. its super fast... definitely worth a try
its fast..its cool BUT it doesnt support Flash..which is major since i use CNBC for there stock ticker.
if they implemented flash . this would be the best browser hands down!
I am impressed.
Up until I bought the Ozone, I had always relied on PIE, IE6, and Opera Mobile. With Ozone in hand, IE6 was my only browser as Opera Mini and Skyfire are not worth the download. I never really cared for the interface and limitations. At least IE6 was simple to use, tabbed support and the ability to switch to column browsing would make it much better.
But, out of nowhere, this speedy simple browser beats them all. It will take a bit of adjusting to get used to the interface, but this will become my browser of choice. The only downside is flash or lack thereof.
In reality, I think most people will utilize different browsers for different tasks. Most of the web sites I visit are simple in structure and work wonderfully with this browser.
I'm sold. Thank you for providing a useful tool. Hopefully, someone might cook this into a new rom to have fun with.
Flash support is on the way, hopefully soon
Does UCweb works like operamini and skyfire i.e. through their server or does it work like opera mobile i.e. direct to the sites ?
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Does UCweb works like operamini and skyfire i.e. through their server or does it work like opera mobile i.e. direct to the sites ?
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Security is very good and its fast as heck in rendering (it renders pages on the device not a remote server) pages and gives you the option of preformating to your devices screen size.
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I searched aorund, and found that it does work through UCWeb proxy. The proxy cached the websites and hence seend to content to the browser faster.
At least I personaly not very comfortable with accessing the net via such poxies specially the sites which need login and can be based on cookies. Such proxies do cache cookies as well and that scares me alot. It is like giving out passwords to such proxies.
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I searched aorund, and found that it does work through UCWeb proxy. The proxy cach the websites and hence seend to content to the browser faster.
At least I am personaly not very comfortable with accessing the net via such poxies. Such proxies do cache cookies as well and that scares me alot. It is like giving out passwords to such proxies.
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I searched aorund, and found that it does work through UCWeb proxy. The proxy cach the websites and hence seend to content to the browser faster.
At least I am personaly not very comfortable with accessing the net via such poxies. Such proxies do cache cookies as well and that scares me alot. It is like giving out passwords to such proxies.
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Actually no it doesn't, all page rendering is done on the device if you are using the Windows Mobile version (which is what I posted about and linked to). The JAVA version uses UCWeb proxy servers but we are not using the Java version now are we
Perhaps you need to sharpen your 'search around' skills a bit.
Does this browser have a desktop mode? I always get the mobile site and I cannot find a setting to change that.
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Actually no it doesn't, all page rendering is done on the device if you are using the Windows Mobile version (which is what I posted about and linked to). The JAVA version uses UCWeb proxy servers but we are not using the Java version now are we
Perhaps you need to sharpen your 'search around' skills a bit.
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Here are some links. There are more. I wish you were correct.
http://wapreview.mobi/?p=881
UCWEB, TeaShark and Opera Mini are all proxy based browsers. All traffic to and from the Web passes through a proxy server that parses and renders the page before compressing it for display by the thin client browser. Proxy based browsers have both advantages and disadvantages compared with direct browsers like Netfont, Opera Mobile and the embedded mobile browsers of most phones.
http://wapreview.com/blog/?p=2106
"Like Skyfire and Opera Mini, UCWEB is a proxy based browser where pages are rendered on a server and compressed before being sent to a thin browser client."
http://symbianism.blogspot.com/2009/07/mobile-web-browsers-skyfire-bolt-and.html
http://forum.dailymobile.se/index.php?topic=1653.5;wap2
"Proxy based, data compressing mobile web browser UCWEB 6.3"
Here is link to UCWEB site. Somebody posted on how to change the proxy, but got him/herself banned with all posts removed. Hmmm, so they want to keep it secret as well.
http://forum.ucweb.com/viewthread.php?tid=806
Bupahs,
May be you can access the link http://www.lagado.com/proxy-test and see if UCWEB access is via proxy. I will install it and try when I get to an area where I can get wireless access (at present I have only wired access).
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Bupahs,
May be you can access the link http://www.lagado.com/proxy-test and see if UCWEB access is via proxy. I will install it and try when I get to an area where I can get wireless access (at present I have only wired access).
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Confirmed. It uses proxy. When you access http://www.lagado.com/proxy-test with UCWEB, it will show that the request came from IP 67.228.166.109. Now whois shows that this IP address is in China. http://whois.domaintools.com/67.228.166.109 and hosted by softlayer.com.
Tried this browser on the HTC Ozone.
Slow. Seriously...it took FOREVER to connect to anything, especially on the startup.
After trying it on 10 Sites the speed never improved.
Horrible rendering (Mobile IE does a better job and is faster!)
No thanks...uninstalled.
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Confirmed. It uses proxy. When you access http://www.lagado.com/proxy-test with UCWEB, it will show that the request came from IP 67.228.166.109. Now whois shows that this IP address is in China. http://whois.domaintools.com/67.228.166.109 and hosted by softlayer.com.
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Something fishy going on, UC forum support says its not on a proxy for WM devices, apparently it is.. I think I will stop using this until I can find out about security
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Something fishy going on, UC forum support says its not on a proxy for WM devices, apparently it is.. I think I will stop using this until I can find out about security
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Glad to be any help. I owe you alot from past.
Bupahs said:
Something fishy going on, UC forum support says its not on a proxy for WM devices, apparently it is.. I think I will stop using this until I can find out about security
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Keith, did you ever look further into this?
Are you still using this browser?
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Keith, did you ever look further into this?
Are you still using this browser?
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Nope, tahdor was 100% correct (my hats off to him) so I dumped the browser.
you can choose whether u want to go via a proxy or not
There is a simple option in ucweb (the windows mobile versions - ppc and smartphone) to choose if u want to use the proxy or not.
PPC, ucweb 7
Menu (the bottom left button) -> Preference -> General Settings -> "WAP access via Server"
Have used a few versions of ucweb 6 both on PPC and Smartphone
They too had this option.
Here's my initial release of "Opera Personality Switcher," soon to be found in my custom ROM
It gives you a few options for opera's "Personality" -- user agent, proxy, etc. It's handy if you want to spoof a site (I use it to fool sites into feeding me their iPhone content)
Here's what I have so far:
1) OPS iPhone - No proxy, user agent set to match mobile Safari's
2) OPS Opera Mobile Standard - No proxy, user agent set to Opera's default
3) OPS Opera Mobile Standard 2 - No proxy, user agent set to "HTC-P4600/1.2 Opera/9.50 (Windows NT 5.1; U; en)" -- which is the standard for a Fuze (and for a Touch Pro?)
4) OPS AT&T Fuze- Media Net's proxy (wireless.cingular.com), user agent set like on Standard 2
5) OPS Firefox- No proxy, user agent set like Firefox 3.5 on Windows, for a full desktop experience.
I'm no programmer, so this is all accomplished with registry tweaks done cabs, linked in your start menu, in a folder called "Opera Personality Switcher." It works more or less the way AT&T's Enable/Disable proxy cabs did.
This is tested against a newish build of Opera 9.7 (currently 35432, found here), but may work on more recent versions of 9.5 as well. This first release will only work on versions of Opera Mobile that store preference settings in the registry.
Sounds great. Would you also add a desktop mode that sets the user agent to firefox or opera?
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Sounds great. Would you also add a desktop mode that sets the user agent to firefox or opera?
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Sure. Expect the practical results to be very similar to the Opera (mobile) standard -- except for on those very few sites that actually recognize opera as a mobile browser (my experience is that most don't.
Actually, I might as well put in an IE mobile variation too, to FORCE it to be recognized as a mobile browser ...
Initial version released!
good stuff mate... have added it here : http://www.1800pocketpc.com/2009/10/01/opera-personality-switcher-change-user-agent-on-opera-mobile.html
Thanks for tha cabs.. kinda useless yet I want it and like tha idea
umm does not work for me.. tryed iphone cab then firefox - while oprea was running then stopped.. closed installed and lunched every time my broswer Still came up opera 9.7 ?
**just lost most files on my memory card so iv downloaded 9.7 2days ago str8 from opera.com...?
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Here's my initial release of "Opera Personality Switcher," soon to be found in my custom ROM
It gives you a few options for opera's "Personality" -- user agent, proxy, etc. It's handy if you want to spoof a site (I use it to fool sites into feeding me their iPhone content)
Here's what I have so far:
1) OPS iPhone - No proxy, user agent set to match mobile Safari's
2) OPS Opera Mobile Standard - No proxy, user agent set to Opera's default
3) OPS Opera Mobile Standard 2 - No proxy, user agent set to "HTC-P4600/1.2 Opera/9.50 (Windows NT 5.1; U; en)" -- which is the standard for a Fuze (and for a Touch Pro?)
4) OPS AT&T Fuze- Media Net's proxy (wireless.cingular.com), user agent set like on Standard 2
5) OPS Firefox- No proxy, user agent set like Firefox 3.5 on Windows, for a full desktop experience.
I'm no programmer, so this is all accomplished via cabs, linked in your start menu, in a folder called "Opera Personality Switcher." It works more or less the way AT&T's Enable/Disable proxy cabs did.
This is tested against a newish build of Opera 9.7 (currently 35432, found here), but may work on more recent versions of 9.5 as well.
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I´m posting a link to your work here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=486502
Thanks a lot!!
criminalogic said:
Thanks for tha cabs.. kinda useless yet I want it and like tha idea
umm does not work for me.. tryed iphone cab then firefox - while oprea was running then stopped.. closed installed and lunched every time my broswer Still came up opera 9.7 ?
**just lost most files on my memory card so iv downloaded 9.7 2days ago str8 from opera.com...?
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I haven't tested against the official beta yet, but taking a quick look at the cab available from opera's site, it looks like it still relies on opera.ini (rather than the registry entries OPS changes) -- so it seems like it wouldn't work.
I'll look into it making it work with that release (and older 9.5s that work the same way) when I've got a bit of free time later this week.
Just downloaded it and it works fine for me. I am running the 9.7 version of opera. I installed the OPSiphone file and then opened Opera. I had to open it close it and then opened it again and it worked fine. Great app thanks
Good stuff. Now, I have a way to get cingular video to work and get regular desktop pages WITHOUT having two diff browsers. Thanks much.
excellent idea!
Thanks for this... very useful
hey Wordsmith9091
wondering if you could update your cab to include latest version of opera mobile or give us a clue of where to find user agent on the register so that we can edit them our self thank you
don't like visiting mobile sites unless i choose too rather visit desktop version first
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hey Wordsmith9091
wondering if you could update your cab to include latest version of opera mobile or give us a clue of where to find user agent on the register so that we can edit them our self thank you
don't like visiting mobile sites unless i choose too rather visit desktop version first
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Sorry I have to ask this, but I am no where near as savvy with a Windows Mobile device as most of you guys are, but maybe you can help? Just installed Opera10 on my HD2 "T-Mobile US," and for some reason it always defaults to "mobile' sites. Example, I type in youtube.com, but I go to m.youtube.com is there anyway to get to the actual youtube, I know it's possible I've seen it video. Please any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Sorry I have to ask this, but I am no where near as savvy with a Windows Mobile device as most of you guys are, but maybe you can help? Just installed Opera10 on my HD2 "T-Mobile US," and for some reason it always defaults to "mobile' sites. Example, I type in youtube.com, but I go to m.youtube.com is there anyway to get to the actual youtube, I know it's possible I've seen it video. Please any help would be greatly appreciated.
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I don't use Opera 10, but I know the m.youtube problem is also present in Opera 9.7. In the m.youtube homepage, you should see a "Show Full Version" (something like that) at the very bottom of the page.
Just a thought: Do you have anything in the Opera 10 Settings/Menu page that says "View Mobile pages"? If so, make sure that is unchecked.
I have both Opera browsers on the HD2. Not sure what opera version is the default, but I have no issues with getting the mobile sites. The default Opera will go to the real sites "non-mobile." I decided to get Opera 10 because a saw a video of it installed and you could enable flash, show I can watch "real' youtube videos. I really want flash so I can watch TV from fancast.com. I didn't see and full version option, but there is a check box for "mobile view;" checked off or on there is no difference.
At rhe bottom of the page there are two options Mobile and Desktop,chose the Desktop and bookmark it.
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At rhe bottom of the page there are two options Mobile and Desktop,chose the Desktop and bookmark it.
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There is no desktop setting, only mobile and fullscreen. I have the mobile setting turned off, and still getting only "mobile sites"
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I have both Opera browsers on the HD2. Not sure what opera version is the default, but I have no issues with getting the mobile sites. The default Opera will go to the real sites "non-mobile." I decided to get Opera 10 because a saw a video of it installed and you could enable flash, show I can watch "real' youtube videos. I really want flash so I can watch TV from fancast.com. I didn't see and full version option, but there is a check box for "mobile view;" checked off or on there is no difference.
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opera 10 doesn't play flash any better than opera 9.7. Youtube and a select few other videos can be watched, but something like fancast will probably require skyfire.
Opera 10 issue
I have recently had a problem with Opera 10. I no always get an error message stating 'could not find proxy server' or 'the url address is busy' etc. Reverting to opera mobile 9.7 removed this problem. Something to consider.
(If anyone knows how to fix this I'd be chuffed. I don't want to hi-jack the thread).
Desmac
John Wagner III said:
There is no desktop setting, only mobile and fullscreen. I have the mobile setting turned off, and still getting only "mobile sites"
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Facebook started doing that to me - I don't want to use m.facebook, but it's quite hard (even with bookmarks) to stay on the full web site.
It was working fine - and I didn't change my version of the browser - so I assume facebook themselves changed something, but it must still be something to do with the way opera mobile identifies itself with a web site.
And certainly don't want to use the Microsoft fb app - what a stunning demonstration of how not to write an app that was
The User-Agent field in the http request is identifying your device as a mobile so the web site is serving it's mobile version. The are ways to edit the User-Agent string to fool the web site into providing the full version straight off..
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The are ways to edit the User-Agent string to fool the web site into providing the full version straight off..
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Apparently (I haven't tried it myself yet)
In the address bar, type in
about:config
scroll down on the page to item User Agent and click on it.
It says Spoof user agent ID
Change it to one of the following numbers:
1 is Opera Mobile
2 is Firefox
3 is desktop IE 6