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I was trying this past weekend to sell something on Craigslist. I remembered a while back that I could take a couple pics of my things to sell on my MDA and post it right from the phone. Now it doesn't work. I get this error saying that it can't process my request. I did a little homework and found out that the site has somehow blocked people from posting ads from their phones. How does the site know I'm posting from my phone?

from what i know by default your browser of choice has a name it uses to identify itself to a website. using schap's advance config 2.02.1.0.0 there is a feature u can check the broswer name, by default it is set to HTC_P4350 Mozilla/4.0 (for my wing) which i am sure website pick up as a mobile browser maybe set it to what the default IE on your computer shows.

maybe you can try using Opera Mobile and masking it as a desktop??
can Netfront do that? i have no idea....

With the Advance config version i mentioned above u can rename the browser agent and yes most websites dont pick up that opera mini is mobile ie myspace from pocket IE will display lame text groups for checking things... just based on the broswer where as opera mini 4 it picks up the normal myspace page if that makes sense.

alright. i'll give it a shot

mv3 said:
maybe you can try using Opera Mobile and masking it as a desktop??
can Netfront do that? i have no idea....
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Yes, netfront can do that.
steps..
1)go to its options>misc tab
2)edit/make a user agent as following..
Code:
title:IE
user-agent:Mozilla/4.08 (compatible; Windows NT/5.1) 6.0
appName:MSIE
appVersion:6.0
appCodeName:Mozilla
language/platform: en / Windows NT 5.1

Opera shows mobile view only on some sites

i got a problem with the preinstalled opera 9.5. on some sites it show only the mobile view and can`t be convinced to show the full desktop site. in the adress line there is then mobile.....com writen and i can`t change the mobile. youtube or google for example. is there a way to change this? (i unchecked the mobile view box in the settings). i also tried 9.7 beta. this one shows full desktop view but crash very often.

bump
for TP2 (sprint)

did u try to change your settings? in the address field type "about:config" and scroll down to user agent. change it to 2 or 3 (firefox or ie respectively). this should make websites recognize your browser differently. it should work for most sites.

first off, thank you for replying. I changed my user agent settings to both 2 and 3. no luck with either. I have to admit I don't which number coincides with which browser (firefox or ie). Any other suggestions??

nothing has worked for me either. I'm using Opera 9.5

You need to change your "custom user agent" string to something like this:
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.3)
It's under "user preferences" in opera's "about:config".

Ok, thanks.
1st here is my string under that exact setting:
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible;MSIE 6.0; windows CE; IEMobile 8.12 MSIEmobile6.0) Sprint T7380.
I'm not sure what to edit.
i changed Mozilla/4.0 to 5.0 but wasnt sure what to leave or take away. thanks for helping.

meccadon123 said:
Ok, thanks.
1st here is my string under that exact setting:
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible;MSIE 6.0; windows CE; IEMobile 8.12 MSIEmobile6.0) Sprint T7380.
I'm not sure what to edit.
i changed Mozilla/4.0 to 5.0 but wasnt sure what to leave or take away. thanks for helping.
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The part in bold identifies your browser as being a "mobile" browser. See what I mean? There are sites that tell you how to "break down" the agent string.
http://www.zytrax.com/tech/web/browser_ids.htm
Go to this site in your mobile phone and see what it returns (it will show you your agent string):
http://webmaster.info.aol.com/browserjs.html
Then, go to the same site with your desktop and see what it returns (mine is below):
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.3) Gecko/20090824 Firefox/3.5.3
The trick is to "spoof" a desktop computer. So, you will want to research "user agent string" for Browsers.

Thanks again, used your string, worked like a charm. However i need flash for some websites. Any suggestions? Sprint TP2
Thanks again man, this was bugging me like crazy.

adobe flash lite
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=4397173&highlight=flash#post4397173

Thanks for link

its far from perfect, but its the best opera can do right now. if u still cant view the flash on the site u want, then i suggest u try the app skyfire. it is a browser that can handle most anything.
www.skyfire.com

haha, I was just about to chime back in. I unzipped into opera folder but no luck. I also found some generic flash cab install, no luck. Funny, i beta tested Skyfire on my 6800. I like opera better, i cant view NFL websites. They are still saying "need flash"...Grrr...thanks for the skyfire link and all the help. Some folks usually ignore threads like this, you all have been very helpful.

meccadon123 said:
haha, I was just about to chime back in. I unzipped into opera folder but no luck. I also found some generic flash cab install, no luck. Funny, i beta tested Skyfire on my 6800. I like opera better, i cant view NFL websites. They are still saying "need flash"...Grrr...thanks for the skyfire link and all the help. Some folks usually ignore threads like this, you all have been very helpful.
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the desktop youtube works for me with this.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=544770

UCWEB one of the best browsers out there!

Repost from my other post for HTC Dash (Excalibur) This version is for the Snap:
Mobile Browser for our HTC Dash 3G Snap, its called UCWEB Super Browser 6.63. This is the formal non-beta release, it is very stable (has not crached or froze up yet and I've been using it for a few days), it is very fast, has TONS of options and well (I hate to say it) is a bit better then Opera Mobile. It works flawlessly with Google (like Googles new "my location" feature on mobile search, GMail and others where Opera does not work or only half works. Security is very good and its fast as heck in rendering (it renders pages on the device not a remote server) pages and gives you the option of preformating to your devices screen size.
A quick feature summery:
Main Features:
• FREEWARE - Its free cant get better then that
• Adaptation for small screen
• Data traffic statistics
• Visited history
• Domain name quickly input
• Supporting multi-formatted file
• Supporting web local-storage
• Multi-windows browsing
• Page dynamic optimization
• Picture optimizing display
• Shortcut Keys (user defined)
• RSS Feed Subscriptions
• Built in E-mail Client for POP3 and IMAP, full support for attachments
• Comprehensive search features (user definable)
• Download Manager - Resume broken download connections
• Personal Data Manager - Saves web sites to your device, export bookmarks
All in all I give it a solid 10 out of 10
Check it out here: UCWEB6
Download the Windows Mobile 6.1 CAB file here: UCWEB6-63-300-33-09021910

I really like this browser. its super fast... definitely worth a try

its fast..its cool BUT it doesnt support Flash..which is major since i use CNBC for there stock ticker.
if they implemented flash . this would be the best browser hands down!

I am impressed.
Up until I bought the Ozone, I had always relied on PIE, IE6, and Opera Mobile. With Ozone in hand, IE6 was my only browser as Opera Mini and Skyfire are not worth the download. I never really cared for the interface and limitations. At least IE6 was simple to use, tabbed support and the ability to switch to column browsing would make it much better.
But, out of nowhere, this speedy simple browser beats them all. It will take a bit of adjusting to get used to the interface, but this will become my browser of choice. The only downside is flash or lack thereof.
In reality, I think most people will utilize different browsers for different tasks. Most of the web sites I visit are simple in structure and work wonderfully with this browser.
I'm sold. Thank you for providing a useful tool. Hopefully, someone might cook this into a new rom to have fun with.

Flash support is on the way, hopefully soon

Does UCweb works like operamini and skyfire i.e. through their server or does it work like opera mobile i.e. direct to the sites ?

tahdor said:
Does UCweb works like operamini and skyfire i.e. through their server or does it work like opera mobile i.e. direct to the sites ?
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Was in the first post:
Security is very good and its fast as heck in rendering (it renders pages on the device not a remote server) pages and gives you the option of preformating to your devices screen size.
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djh816 said:
Was in the first post:
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I searched aorund, and found that it does work through UCWeb proxy. The proxy cached the websites and hence seend to content to the browser faster.
At least I personaly not very comfortable with accessing the net via such poxies specially the sites which need login and can be based on cookies. Such proxies do cache cookies as well and that scares me alot. It is like giving out passwords to such proxies.

djh816 said:
Was in the first post:
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I searched aorund, and found that it does work through UCWeb proxy. The proxy cach the websites and hence seend to content to the browser faster.
At least I am personaly not very comfortable with accessing the net via such poxies. Such proxies do cache cookies as well and that scares me alot. It is like giving out passwords to such proxies.

tahdor said:
I searched aorund, and found that it does work through UCWeb proxy. The proxy cach the websites and hence seend to content to the browser faster.
At least I am personaly not very comfortable with accessing the net via such poxies. Such proxies do cache cookies as well and that scares me alot. It is like giving out passwords to such proxies.
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Actually no it doesn't, all page rendering is done on the device if you are using the Windows Mobile version (which is what I posted about and linked to). The JAVA version uses UCWeb proxy servers but we are not using the Java version now are we
Perhaps you need to sharpen your 'search around' skills a bit.

Does this browser have a desktop mode? I always get the mobile site and I cannot find a setting to change that.

Bupahs said:
Actually no it doesn't, all page rendering is done on the device if you are using the Windows Mobile version (which is what I posted about and linked to). The JAVA version uses UCWeb proxy servers but we are not using the Java version now are we
Perhaps you need to sharpen your 'search around' skills a bit.
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Here are some links. There are more. I wish you were correct.
http://wapreview.mobi/?p=881
UCWEB, TeaShark and Opera Mini are all proxy based browsers. All traffic to and from the Web passes through a proxy server that parses and renders the page before compressing it for display by the thin client browser. Proxy based browsers have both advantages and disadvantages compared with direct browsers like Netfont, Opera Mobile and the embedded mobile browsers of most phones.
http://wapreview.com/blog/?p=2106
"Like Skyfire and Opera Mini, UCWEB is a proxy based browser where pages are rendered on a server and compressed before being sent to a thin browser client."
http://symbianism.blogspot.com/2009/07/mobile-web-browsers-skyfire-bolt-and.html
http://forum.dailymobile.se/index.php?topic=1653.5;wap2
"Proxy based, data compressing mobile web browser UCWEB 6.3"
Here is link to UCWEB site. Somebody posted on how to change the proxy, but got him/herself banned with all posts removed. Hmmm, so they want to keep it secret as well.
http://forum.ucweb.com/viewthread.php?tid=806

Bupahs,
May be you can access the link http://www.lagado.com/proxy-test and see if UCWEB access is via proxy. I will install it and try when I get to an area where I can get wireless access (at present I have only wired access).

tahdor said:
Bupahs,
May be you can access the link http://www.lagado.com/proxy-test and see if UCWEB access is via proxy. I will install it and try when I get to an area where I can get wireless access (at present I have only wired access).
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Confirmed. It uses proxy. When you access http://www.lagado.com/proxy-test with UCWEB, it will show that the request came from IP 67.228.166.109. Now whois shows that this IP address is in China. http://whois.domaintools.com/67.228.166.109 and hosted by softlayer.com.

Tried this browser on the HTC Ozone.
Slow. Seriously...it took FOREVER to connect to anything, especially on the startup.
After trying it on 10 Sites the speed never improved.
Horrible rendering (Mobile IE does a better job and is faster!)
No thanks...uninstalled.

tahdor said:
Confirmed. It uses proxy. When you access http://www.lagado.com/proxy-test with UCWEB, it will show that the request came from IP 67.228.166.109. Now whois shows that this IP address is in China. http://whois.domaintools.com/67.228.166.109 and hosted by softlayer.com.
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Something fishy going on, UC forum support says its not on a proxy for WM devices, apparently it is.. I think I will stop using this until I can find out about security

Bupahs said:
Something fishy going on, UC forum support says its not on a proxy for WM devices, apparently it is.. I think I will stop using this until I can find out about security
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Glad to be any help. I owe you alot from past.

Bupahs said:
Something fishy going on, UC forum support says its not on a proxy for WM devices, apparently it is.. I think I will stop using this until I can find out about security
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Keith, did you ever look further into this?
Are you still using this browser?

Ghost of Jaco said:
Keith, did you ever look further into this?
Are you still using this browser?
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Nope, tahdor was 100% correct (my hats off to him) so I dumped the browser.

you can choose whether u want to go via a proxy or not
There is a simple option in ucweb (the windows mobile versions - ppc and smartphone) to choose if u want to use the proxy or not.
PPC, ucweb 7
Menu (the bottom left button) -> Preference -> General Settings -> "WAP access via Server"
Have used a few versions of ucweb 6 both on PPC and Smartphone
They too had this option.

Make Opera stop loading mobile pages?

Any idea how to stop Opera from loading "stupid" iphone/mobile versions of webpages?
If I use Internet Explorer on the HD2, I get the "real" webpage, while in Opera, I only get a strange mobile-version.

Load Opera... go into settings->display... untick mobile view.

I also suffer with this problem and mobile view is unchecked. Opera randomly opens mobile versions of pages...

vessk0 said:
I also suffer with this problem and mobile view is unchecked. Opera randomly opens mobile versions of pages...
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Me too. I've unchecked mobile view, and yet it still loads the mobile versions of pages if i visit the url directly. If i visit the page via a google search (or a fave of the full desktop version) it's all ok.

vessk0 said:
I also suffer with this problem and mobile view is unchecked. Opera randomly opens mobile versions of pages...
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They could be cached. Clear Opera of all history... that should do the trick.

Solution
hello, i got a solution for you go in opera and type in the adress bar: opera:config it opens the preferences editor then go to: user prefs and change under: custom user-agent the string to: Opera/10 Windows NT 6.1; U; en) and instead of en you could type in your locale code i.e. de for germany or any country else. then press the save button unter the whole user agent setting page restart the opera ant have fun hope this helps you.

lowrider_05 said:
hello, i got a solution for you go in opera and type in the adress bar: opera:config it opens the preferences editor then go to: user prefs and change under: custom user-agent the string to: Opera/10 Windows NT 6.1; U; en) and instead of en you could type in your locale code i.e. de for germany or any country else. then press the save button unter the whole user agent setting page restart the opera ant have fun hope this helps you.
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The current value of that preference is:
HTC_HD2_T8585 Opera/9.7 (Windows NT 5.1; U; en)
So we're deleting the bit at the beginning about the HD2? I'm assuming the brackets around the windows bit are unimportant, but we're changing the NT version to 6.1 too?
Also, I'm assuming that if we're still using opera 9.7, then we stick with a value of 9.7 rather than 10?

By default, Opera will only occasionally open mobile pages and when it does, IE is there on your handset to use instead. I found that when I tried the iPlayer tweak in the tweaks thread, Opera then opened every page as the mobile version. I hard to hard reset to get it working properly again.

sunking101 said:
By default, Opera will only occasionally open mobile pages and when it does, IE is there on your handset to use instead. I found that when I tried the iPlayer tweak in the tweaks thread, Opera then opened every page as the mobile version. I hard to hard reset to get it working properly again.
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I'm certain that adjusting the opera config page will solve this problem, since it determines how the browser identifies itself to web servers. It's just a question of making sure you set the right value. I've had to adjust these config pages on desktop firefox before to control preferences. They all use a similar system to get at core preferences.
EDIT: I have no interest in switching to IE to view certain pages. Interestingly though, I'm having the same issue with IE anyway. As i say, I'm pretty sure this fix will work.
EDIT2: If i had to guess, i'd assume that the reason setting the option in the settings page doesn't work all the time, is that it causes the browser to identify itself in a "hi, i'm a phone but i'd like a desktop page please" instead of just "hi, i'd like a desktop page please". Again, i'd speculate that not all webservers differentiate between "mobile phone" and "mobile phone that wants a full desktop page"

Thanx for the replies!
I hate having to configure a browser to work, as I test a lot of software and hard-reset the phone quite often.
I'll be using IE instead, untill they release a fix for this.

I suspect you will be waiting a while as there is nothing to 'fix'. This is a mobile browser on a mobile device doing what it is supposed to do and doing what a proportion of users will want it to do.
It can be configured to behave differently for those than want it but you are going to have to actively make that choice. Don't forget that some people will be charged by the byte downloaded and will want their pages as skinny as possible.

My Opera loads desktop pages I would say approx 90% of the time, the ones it won't load properly IE will. So I'm perfectly happy with the browsing capabilities of the HD2. In fact it's just about all I am happy about with! The HD2 is a fantastic web browsing device, far better than any mobile handset I have ever used.

Well, i tried changing it to
Opera/9.7 (Windows NT 6.1; U; en)
without all the "HTC" stuff at the beginning, and it still loads the mobile version of the bbc page, when i visit www.bbc.co.uk
Any ideas?

Can't guarantee this will work, but you could try going into opera:config - User Agent and set Spoof Useragent ID to 3 (for IE). I have had some success with this in the past.

Not sure if you guys have found an answer to this, but for me, the following works.
In opera go to "opera:config"
Scroll down to "User prefs" and open this
Scroll down to "UAProf URL Enabled" and uncheck this (remove the tick)
Restart opera, and that should do it.

removed for uselessness.

Aleemz said:
Not sure if you guys have found an answer to this, but for me, the following works.
In opera go to "opera:config"
Scroll down to "User prefs" and open this
Scroll down to "UAProf URL Enabled" and uncheck this (remove the tick)
Restart opera, and that should do it.
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Works a treat. Nice find mate

what about for opera mobile 10?
I have 10 beta and I don't see the UAProf
Thanks.

Aleemz said:
Not sure if you guys have found an answer to this, but for me, the following works.
In opera go to "opera:config"
Scroll down to "User prefs" and open this
Scroll down to "UAProf URL Enabled" and uncheck this (remove the tick)
Restart opera, and that should do it.
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Tried it here on the 1.66 ROM, made no difference? still getting directed to mobile websites

It works
Actually, this change to opera:config does work on the 1.66 ROM, but remember to save the change to preferences by hitting Save at the bottom of the page!
Well, when I say it works: it made Opera stop loading the mobile version of Google News, but CNBC still insists on displaying its dumb mobile page when I type cnbc.com. So it's not a 100% fix, but maybe this is down to some websites detecting that a phone is accessing them and so showing their mobile page no matter what?
Any tips appreciated as the HD2 is too good to view mere mobile pages on!
David
DMAND said:
Tried it here on the 1.66 ROM, made no difference? still getting directed to mobile websites
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Opera: How to view non mobile versions of the web!

I can't seem to find a way to make opera 9.7 automatically open web content as full desktop version instead of mobile versions.
For instance NYtime.com and cnn.com: How do I get opera to open these webpages as full desktop versions instead of the mobile versions?
I know opera 10 can do this right off the bat, but please don't mention opera 10. There is so many things I dislike about it (lets not talk about them in this thread).

use a custom user agent.
when you access a site your browser tells the site what browser it is. you can fake this, so your phone reports itself as (for example) firefox.
in opera go to
opera:config
scroll down to user prefs
scroll to custom user agent
poor your user agent of choice in there.

samsamuel said:
use a custom user agent.
when you access a site your browser tells the site what browser it is. you can fake this, so your phone reports itself as (for example) firefox.
in opera go to
opera:config
scroll down to user prefs
scroll to custom user agent
poor your user agent of choice in there.
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okay, under cust. user gent, this is my default settings:
HTC_Touch_HD2_T8585 Opera/9.70 (Windows NT 5.1; U; en)
I have tried to google up some other things but I cannot find anything that can change webpages such as nytimes.com and cnn.com into desktop versions.
The sad part is that those webpages dont have any link that say "view desktop version". This is ridiculous because the iphone can view these webpages normally in desktop version.
Can anyone confirm how they do theirs?

I too would love to know what exactly to replace that value with.
Thanks!

lemonspeakers said:
okay, under cust. user gent, this is my default settings:
HTC_Touch_HD2_T8585 Opera/9.70 (Windows NT 5.1; U; en)
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I think those default identify exactly that it's an HD2 and running Opera Mobile.
(I THINK..) Using this page and going down to the Opera section, you can change it to be anything as long as it's not the mobile agent id.
http://www.zytrax.com/tech/web/browser_ids.htm

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=601951&page=2
Have a look at Post 15, it's works for me, displays the full desktop sites using Opera 9.7