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I was trying this past weekend to sell something on Craigslist. I remembered a while back that I could take a couple pics of my things to sell on my MDA and post it right from the phone. Now it doesn't work. I get this error saying that it can't process my request. I did a little homework and found out that the site has somehow blocked people from posting ads from their phones. How does the site know I'm posting from my phone?

from what i know by default your browser of choice has a name it uses to identify itself to a website. using schap's advance config 2.02.1.0.0 there is a feature u can check the broswer name, by default it is set to HTC_P4350 Mozilla/4.0 (for my wing) which i am sure website pick up as a mobile browser maybe set it to what the default IE on your computer shows.

maybe you can try using Opera Mobile and masking it as a desktop??
can Netfront do that? i have no idea....

With the Advance config version i mentioned above u can rename the browser agent and yes most websites dont pick up that opera mini is mobile ie myspace from pocket IE will display lame text groups for checking things... just based on the broswer where as opera mini 4 it picks up the normal myspace page if that makes sense.

alright. i'll give it a shot

mv3 said:
maybe you can try using Opera Mobile and masking it as a desktop??
can Netfront do that? i have no idea....
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Yes, netfront can do that.
steps..
1)go to its options>misc tab
2)edit/make a user agent as following..
Code:
title:IE
user-agent:Mozilla/4.08 (compatible; Windows NT/5.1) 6.0
appName:MSIE
appVersion:6.0
appCodeName:Mozilla
language/platform: en / Windows NT 5.1

[APP] RELEASED 100109! — Opera Personality Switcher

Here's my initial release of "Opera Personality Switcher," soon to be found in my custom ROM
It gives you a few options for opera's "Personality" -- user agent, proxy, etc. It's handy if you want to spoof a site (I use it to fool sites into feeding me their iPhone content)
Here's what I have so far:
1) OPS iPhone - No proxy, user agent set to match mobile Safari's
2) OPS Opera Mobile Standard - No proxy, user agent set to Opera's default
3) OPS Opera Mobile Standard 2 - No proxy, user agent set to "HTC-P4600/1.2 Opera/9.50 (Windows NT 5.1; U; en)" -- which is the standard for a Fuze (and for a Touch Pro?)
4) OPS AT&T Fuze- Media Net's proxy (wireless.cingular.com), user agent set like on Standard 2
5) OPS Firefox- No proxy, user agent set like Firefox 3.5 on Windows, for a full desktop experience.
I'm no programmer, so this is all accomplished with registry tweaks done cabs, linked in your start menu, in a folder called "Opera Personality Switcher." It works more or less the way AT&T's Enable/Disable proxy cabs did.
This is tested against a newish build of Opera 9.7 (currently 35432, found here), but may work on more recent versions of 9.5 as well. This first release will only work on versions of Opera Mobile that store preference settings in the registry.

Sounds great. Would you also add a desktop mode that sets the user agent to firefox or opera?

moonscapex said:
Sounds great. Would you also add a desktop mode that sets the user agent to firefox or opera?
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Sure. Expect the practical results to be very similar to the Opera (mobile) standard -- except for on those very few sites that actually recognize opera as a mobile browser (my experience is that most don't.
Actually, I might as well put in an IE mobile variation too, to FORCE it to be recognized as a mobile browser ...

Initial version released!

good stuff mate... have added it here : http://www.1800pocketpc.com/2009/10/01/opera-personality-switcher-change-user-agent-on-opera-mobile.html

Thanks for tha cabs.. kinda useless yet I want it and like tha idea
umm does not work for me.. tryed iphone cab then firefox - while oprea was running then stopped.. closed installed and lunched every time my broswer Still came up opera 9.7 ?
**just lost most files on my memory card so iv downloaded 9.7 2days ago str8 from opera.com...?

Wordsmith9091 said:
Here's my initial release of "Opera Personality Switcher," soon to be found in my custom ROM
It gives you a few options for opera's "Personality" -- user agent, proxy, etc. It's handy if you want to spoof a site (I use it to fool sites into feeding me their iPhone content)
Here's what I have so far:
1) OPS iPhone - No proxy, user agent set to match mobile Safari's
2) OPS Opera Mobile Standard - No proxy, user agent set to Opera's default
3) OPS Opera Mobile Standard 2 - No proxy, user agent set to "HTC-P4600/1.2 Opera/9.50 (Windows NT 5.1; U; en)" -- which is the standard for a Fuze (and for a Touch Pro?)
4) OPS AT&T Fuze- Media Net's proxy (wireless.cingular.com), user agent set like on Standard 2
5) OPS Firefox- No proxy, user agent set like Firefox 3.5 on Windows, for a full desktop experience.
I'm no programmer, so this is all accomplished via cabs, linked in your start menu, in a folder called "Opera Personality Switcher." It works more or less the way AT&T's Enable/Disable proxy cabs did.
This is tested against a newish build of Opera 9.7 (currently 35432, found here), but may work on more recent versions of 9.5 as well.
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I´m posting a link to your work here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=486502
Thanks a lot!!

criminalogic said:
Thanks for tha cabs.. kinda useless yet I want it and like tha idea
umm does not work for me.. tryed iphone cab then firefox - while oprea was running then stopped.. closed installed and lunched every time my broswer Still came up opera 9.7 ?
**just lost most files on my memory card so iv downloaded 9.7 2days ago str8 from opera.com...?
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I haven't tested against the official beta yet, but taking a quick look at the cab available from opera's site, it looks like it still relies on opera.ini (rather than the registry entries OPS changes) -- so it seems like it wouldn't work.
I'll look into it making it work with that release (and older 9.5s that work the same way) when I've got a bit of free time later this week.

Just downloaded it and it works fine for me. I am running the 9.7 version of opera. I installed the OPSiphone file and then opened Opera. I had to open it close it and then opened it again and it worked fine. Great app thanks

Good stuff. Now, I have a way to get cingular video to work and get regular desktop pages WITHOUT having two diff browsers. Thanks much.

excellent idea!
Thanks for this... very useful

hey Wordsmith9091
wondering if you could update your cab to include latest version of opera mobile or give us a clue of where to find user agent on the register so that we can edit them our self thank you
don't like visiting mobile sites unless i choose too rather visit desktop version first

ATT-Half said:
hey Wordsmith9091
wondering if you could update your cab to include latest version of opera mobile or give us a clue of where to find user agent on the register so that we can edit them our self thank you
don't like visiting mobile sites unless i choose too rather visit desktop version first
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Im interested too

Make Opera stop loading mobile pages?

Any idea how to stop Opera from loading "stupid" iphone/mobile versions of webpages?
If I use Internet Explorer on the HD2, I get the "real" webpage, while in Opera, I only get a strange mobile-version.

Load Opera... go into settings->display... untick mobile view.

I also suffer with this problem and mobile view is unchecked. Opera randomly opens mobile versions of pages...

vessk0 said:
I also suffer with this problem and mobile view is unchecked. Opera randomly opens mobile versions of pages...
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Me too. I've unchecked mobile view, and yet it still loads the mobile versions of pages if i visit the url directly. If i visit the page via a google search (or a fave of the full desktop version) it's all ok.

vessk0 said:
I also suffer with this problem and mobile view is unchecked. Opera randomly opens mobile versions of pages...
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They could be cached. Clear Opera of all history... that should do the trick.

Solution
hello, i got a solution for you go in opera and type in the adress bar: opera:config it opens the preferences editor then go to: user prefs and change under: custom user-agent the string to: Opera/10 Windows NT 6.1; U; en) and instead of en you could type in your locale code i.e. de for germany or any country else. then press the save button unter the whole user agent setting page restart the opera ant have fun hope this helps you.

lowrider_05 said:
hello, i got a solution for you go in opera and type in the adress bar: opera:config it opens the preferences editor then go to: user prefs and change under: custom user-agent the string to: Opera/10 Windows NT 6.1; U; en) and instead of en you could type in your locale code i.e. de for germany or any country else. then press the save button unter the whole user agent setting page restart the opera ant have fun hope this helps you.
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The current value of that preference is:
HTC_HD2_T8585 Opera/9.7 (Windows NT 5.1; U; en)
So we're deleting the bit at the beginning about the HD2? I'm assuming the brackets around the windows bit are unimportant, but we're changing the NT version to 6.1 too?
Also, I'm assuming that if we're still using opera 9.7, then we stick with a value of 9.7 rather than 10?

By default, Opera will only occasionally open mobile pages and when it does, IE is there on your handset to use instead. I found that when I tried the iPlayer tweak in the tweaks thread, Opera then opened every page as the mobile version. I hard to hard reset to get it working properly again.

sunking101 said:
By default, Opera will only occasionally open mobile pages and when it does, IE is there on your handset to use instead. I found that when I tried the iPlayer tweak in the tweaks thread, Opera then opened every page as the mobile version. I hard to hard reset to get it working properly again.
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I'm certain that adjusting the opera config page will solve this problem, since it determines how the browser identifies itself to web servers. It's just a question of making sure you set the right value. I've had to adjust these config pages on desktop firefox before to control preferences. They all use a similar system to get at core preferences.
EDIT: I have no interest in switching to IE to view certain pages. Interestingly though, I'm having the same issue with IE anyway. As i say, I'm pretty sure this fix will work.
EDIT2: If i had to guess, i'd assume that the reason setting the option in the settings page doesn't work all the time, is that it causes the browser to identify itself in a "hi, i'm a phone but i'd like a desktop page please" instead of just "hi, i'd like a desktop page please". Again, i'd speculate that not all webservers differentiate between "mobile phone" and "mobile phone that wants a full desktop page"

Thanx for the replies!
I hate having to configure a browser to work, as I test a lot of software and hard-reset the phone quite often.
I'll be using IE instead, untill they release a fix for this.

I suspect you will be waiting a while as there is nothing to 'fix'. This is a mobile browser on a mobile device doing what it is supposed to do and doing what a proportion of users will want it to do.
It can be configured to behave differently for those than want it but you are going to have to actively make that choice. Don't forget that some people will be charged by the byte downloaded and will want their pages as skinny as possible.

My Opera loads desktop pages I would say approx 90% of the time, the ones it won't load properly IE will. So I'm perfectly happy with the browsing capabilities of the HD2. In fact it's just about all I am happy about with! The HD2 is a fantastic web browsing device, far better than any mobile handset I have ever used.

Well, i tried changing it to
Opera/9.7 (Windows NT 6.1; U; en)
without all the "HTC" stuff at the beginning, and it still loads the mobile version of the bbc page, when i visit www.bbc.co.uk
Any ideas?

Can't guarantee this will work, but you could try going into opera:config - User Agent and set Spoof Useragent ID to 3 (for IE). I have had some success with this in the past.

Not sure if you guys have found an answer to this, but for me, the following works.
In opera go to "opera:config"
Scroll down to "User prefs" and open this
Scroll down to "UAProf URL Enabled" and uncheck this (remove the tick)
Restart opera, and that should do it.

removed for uselessness.

Aleemz said:
Not sure if you guys have found an answer to this, but for me, the following works.
In opera go to "opera:config"
Scroll down to "User prefs" and open this
Scroll down to "UAProf URL Enabled" and uncheck this (remove the tick)
Restart opera, and that should do it.
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Works a treat. Nice find mate

what about for opera mobile 10?
I have 10 beta and I don't see the UAProf
Thanks.

Aleemz said:
Not sure if you guys have found an answer to this, but for me, the following works.
In opera go to "opera:config"
Scroll down to "User prefs" and open this
Scroll down to "UAProf URL Enabled" and uncheck this (remove the tick)
Restart opera, and that should do it.
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Tried it here on the 1.66 ROM, made no difference? still getting directed to mobile websites

It works
Actually, this change to opera:config does work on the 1.66 ROM, but remember to save the change to preferences by hitting Save at the bottom of the page!
Well, when I say it works: it made Opera stop loading the mobile version of Google News, but CNBC still insists on displaying its dumb mobile page when I type cnbc.com. So it's not a 100% fix, but maybe this is down to some websites detecting that a phone is accessing them and so showing their mobile page no matter what?
Any tips appreciated as the HD2 is too good to view mere mobile pages on!
David
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Tried it here on the 1.66 ROM, made no difference? still getting directed to mobile websites
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Opera uses google mobile not google classic

I have been search this forum for an answer to this problem but none have worked.
When i search using the google search option under the address bar in opera it redirects me to google mobile. If i search using the search option when I start opera, the standard homepage search, it uses classic google, in the same spot and using the same search term.
With such a large screen I prefer using classic google rather than mobile.
Is there a way to stop opera from using mobile google?
I have tried changing the UAprofurl enabled to 0
and changing the spoof to 2 and 3.
if i search using the search bar in the internet tab it also seds me to google mobile.
ROM is vodafone UK 1.41
Opera is the standard 9.7 out of the box.

any one else have this problem?

Set Google as your homepage and it will be the classic version. I don't search from the address bar but I suppose the mobile version could come in handy from time to time.

charliebarter said:
any one else have this problem?
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It is functioning correctly - there's nothing wrong with your app or settings. It is a bit strange though. You'd expect all 3 searches to use the same.
Anyway, there's a "sort of" fix for it. It still uses google mobile, but it opens pages properly, not mobile versions.
Do a search, from the search on the internet tab, and when you get the results page scroll to the bottom and click on settings. If you set "Format web pages for your phone" to "Off" and click Save, it stores a cookie on your phone so all links from google mobile open full websites.
I think it's the best of both worlds, but still think it's strange that it doesn't just use google classic in the first place.
Ah well

I have the same issue. I have set Google as my home page, but I would like the google search option to return results in google classic. Would love to know if there is a way of doing this.

johncmolyneux said:
It is functioning correctly - there's nothing wrong with your app or settings. It is a bit strange though. You'd expect all 3 searches to use the same.
Anyway, there's a "sort of" fix for it. It still uses google mobile, but it opens pages properly, not mobile versions.
Do a search, from the search on the internet tab, and when you get the results page scroll to the bottom and click on settings. If you set "Format web pages for your phone" to "Off" and click Save, it stores a cookie on your phone so all links from google mobile open full websites.
I think it's the best of both worlds, but still think it's strange that it doesn't just use google classic in the first place.
Ah well
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This doesn't work, try going to the Sun newspaper for instance. The site opens the mobile version in Opera and the desktop version in IE.

sunking101 said:
This doesn't work, try going to the Sun newspaper for instance. The site opens the mobile version in Opera and the desktop version in IE.
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I don't know what to say to that - it works on mine. I always do this as I agree with the OP and prefer Google classic.
Maybe the Sun website has a mobile version and that's where the redirection occurs. Does it happen if you search for the sun newspaper from google classic?
Did you try it on any other sites, or just that one?

sunking101 said:
This doesn't work, try going to the Sun newspaper for instance. The site opens the mobile version in Opera and the desktop version in IE.
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Some sites try to determine whether or not you are using a mobile device and will automatically send you to there mobile site.

harolds said:
Some sites try to determine whether or not you are using a mobile device and will automatically send you to there mobile site.
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Yeah - I just tried The Sun and it does it no matter how you get there.
The above advice does work for making google mobile search open standard versions of sites, and not the google reformatted versions.

johncmolyneux said:
Yeah - I just tried The Sun and it does it no matter how you get there.
The above advice does work for making google mobile search open standard versions of sites, and not the google reformatted versions.
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The Sun website works perfectly when navigated there via IE though, from a mobile device. What does IE do that Opera can't manage?

sunking101 said:
The Sun website works perfectly when navigated there via IE though, from a mobile device. What does IE do that Opera can't manage?
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It's probably down to the useragent identifier of the browser. Maybe the IE useragent just identifies it as IE, whereas the Opera mobile one identifies it as a mobile browser. That's just a thought though, as I've not looked into that at all.

sunking101 said:
The Sun website works perfectly when navigated there via IE though, from a mobile device. What does IE do that Opera can't manage?
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One of the ways (may be others I don't know) websites use what's called the UserAgent to determine what type the browser is, and if the site doesn't recognize the UserAgent as a mobile device then it assumes it's not.
UserAgent:
Opera: HTC_HD2_T8585 Opera/9.7 (Windows NT 5.1; U; en)
IE: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; HTC_HD2_T8585; Windows Phone 6.5) UP.Link/6.3.1.20.0
So your guess is as good as mine why the site does what it does.

Same here.
Boring.
For instance, the famous French newspaper Le Monde.
If you search "lemonde" on Google it will show you the mobile version of www.lemonde.fr
How to change this?

arturobandini said:
Same here.
Boring.
For instance, the famous French newspaper Le Monde.
If you search "lemonde" on Google it will show you the mobile version of www.lemonde.fr
How to change this?
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Use IE.
Change Opera's UserAgent. Don't know how, maybe it's in the registry somewhere.

The user agent can be changed by opening opera and navigating to opera:config and then under user prefs, there's a setting "custom user agent".
I've changed it to the useragent of my PCs current version of IE, by going to http://whatsmyuseragent.com/ but it doesn't make any difference.
There's also a user agent setting (not under user prefs), but it's just a number so I don't know what it relates to. There's probably a settings file somewhere that specifies a list of useragent strings. (Maybe in windows\opera9 somewhere).

johncmolyneux said:
The user agent can be changed by opening opera and navigating to opera:config and then under user prefs, there's a setting "custom user agent".
I've changed it to the useragent of my PCs current version of IE, by going to http://whatsmyuseragent.com/ but it doesn't make any difference.
There's also a user agent setting (not under user prefs), but it's just a number so I don't know what it relates to. There's probably a settings file somewhere that specifies a list of useragent strings. (Maybe in windows\opera9 somewhere).
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I found this which is what the user agent relates to, i've set mine to 2 and this makes no difference, might try all of them and get back to you.
The numbers under user agent =
There are 5 options where you can choose from:
1 = Identify as Opera
2 = Identify as Firefox
3 = Identify as Internet Explorer
4 = Mask as Firefox (Opera not mentioned in user agent string)
5 = Mask as Internet Explorer (Opera not mentioned in user agent string)

Opera: How to view non mobile versions of the web!

I can't seem to find a way to make opera 9.7 automatically open web content as full desktop version instead of mobile versions.
For instance NYtime.com and cnn.com: How do I get opera to open these webpages as full desktop versions instead of the mobile versions?
I know opera 10 can do this right off the bat, but please don't mention opera 10. There is so many things I dislike about it (lets not talk about them in this thread).

use a custom user agent.
when you access a site your browser tells the site what browser it is. you can fake this, so your phone reports itself as (for example) firefox.
in opera go to
opera:config
scroll down to user prefs
scroll to custom user agent
poor your user agent of choice in there.

samsamuel said:
use a custom user agent.
when you access a site your browser tells the site what browser it is. you can fake this, so your phone reports itself as (for example) firefox.
in opera go to
opera:config
scroll down to user prefs
scroll to custom user agent
poor your user agent of choice in there.
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okay, under cust. user gent, this is my default settings:
HTC_Touch_HD2_T8585 Opera/9.70 (Windows NT 5.1; U; en)
I have tried to google up some other things but I cannot find anything that can change webpages such as nytimes.com and cnn.com into desktop versions.
The sad part is that those webpages dont have any link that say "view desktop version". This is ridiculous because the iphone can view these webpages normally in desktop version.
Can anyone confirm how they do theirs?

I too would love to know what exactly to replace that value with.
Thanks!

lemonspeakers said:
okay, under cust. user gent, this is my default settings:
HTC_Touch_HD2_T8585 Opera/9.70 (Windows NT 5.1; U; en)
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I think those default identify exactly that it's an HD2 and running Opera Mobile.
(I THINK..) Using this page and going down to the Opera section, you can change it to be anything as long as it's not the mobile agent id.
http://www.zytrax.com/tech/web/browser_ids.htm

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=601951&page=2
Have a look at Post 15, it's works for me, displays the full desktop sites using Opera 9.7