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Opera Mobile is a great browser, but I don't think it does so well on the X1.
In landscape mode, the software keyboard should be completely disabled. This would be much less annoying and would also allow interaction with embedded Flash / Flash websites.
Opera also often makes the L and R buttons activate the start menu, rather than their assignments.
EDIT: And if you're typing into Opera's own search box with the hardware keyboard, it doesn't recognise that you are typing and times out - taking the search dialogue away.
Does anyone know if these things can be fixed? I wouldn't mind disabling the keyboard in landscape mode at the OS level (to affect everything), but it's too useful in portrait to disable altogether.
Thanks
Yes i agree about the software keyboard. That is the most annoying thing on the planet it comes up even when ur not in a text input area. I would love to see a tweak to stop this.
"Disabling" the on screen keyboard...
Try this SIP.
It is an onscreenkeyboard but in fact it displays NO keyboard.
You can change it back to a "normal" keyboard via the normal SIP menü in the bottom middle of the screen.
Better than nothing, I guess..
Greets !
PS: I found this cab in an Opera 9.5 thread around here.
there is a registry tweak somewhere on here, ill try search for it now
Has anyone noticed that the opera that comes on the xperia only lets you go to mobile sites no matter what the setting in the settings tab indicates?
that not opera but the websites you are visiting.
I don't think so because these webpages have full verisons and its determined by the browser u are using. For instance if i switch to the build from the touch hd i can go to the same webpages and view them as full pages but the one on the xperia will automatically go to the mobile versions. I started up a new thread to discuss this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=443583
Bxsteez said:
I don't think so because these webpages have full verisons and its determined by the browser u are using. For instance if i switch to the build from the touch hd i can go to the same webpages and view them as full pages but the one on the xperia will automatically go to the mobile versions. I started up a new thread to discuss this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=443583
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The webpage you visit is informed of the user agent. Most websites use useragent checks to determine which version to show you. I should know I design websites.
Most likely (but unconfirmed without a test) is that the Xperia build has "Sony Ericsson" in it useragent.
I had the same problem, i was trying to view the full desktop version of youtube.com but it kept redeirecting me to the mobile version, even when i clicked the link at the bottom of the mobile site that said 'View desktop version'. I tried everything to stop it from happening i.e changing user agent settings in registry and opera, but it kept on occuring.
For a reason not connected with my problem I got a new Xperia X1 and now I dont have that problem anymore!
artesea said:
The webpage you visit is informed of the user agent. Most websites use useragent checks to determine which version to show you. I should know I design websites.
Most likely (but unconfirmed without a test) is that the Xperia build has "Sony Ericsson" in it useragent.
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So most likely it has to do with an opera setting. Can anyone post there opera.ini file. I tried to change the user agent based on opera's definitions.
http://www.opera.com/support/usingopera/operaini/
I still can't seem to fix this issue
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that not opera but the websites you are visiting.
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I'm starting to think you were right. When i go to like facebook it goes into full desktop version but utube and myspace go into mobile view. I wish i knew more sites with a mobile view lol..
Bxsteez said:
I'm starting to think you were right. When i go to like facebook it goes into full desktop version but utube and myspace go into mobile view. I wish i knew more sites with a mobile view lol..
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He is right. Go to a site like IPChicken.com and look at the Browser string under the 'Advanced' section and you'll see what Opera is reporting to each site you visit. Opera has a way to 'spoof' the User Agent to be like Firefox or IE 6 for example. Type in: about:config in the address bar, and scroll all the way down to User Agent and try 2 and 3 (Firefox & IE, respectively).
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He is right. Go to a site like IPChicken.com and look at the Browser string under the 'Advanced' section and you'll see what Opera is reporting to each site you visit. Opera has a way to 'spoof' the User Agent to be like Firefox or IE 6 for example. Type in: about:config in the address bar, and scroll all the way down to User Agent and try 2 and 3 (Firefox & IE, respectively).
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Thank You!!!! That fixed my problem. I'm going to post in the thread i made for this problem. If you don't mind that is
zooming by dpad is a good thing.
for scrolling, the finger cam is perfect.
and scrolling by g-sensor would be a good thing
(i hope the x1 will have one, like ohter htc devs)
DOMin8or said:
zooming by dpad is a good thing.
for scrolling, the finger cam is perfect.
and scrolling by g-sensor would be a good thing
(i hope the x1 will have one, like ohter htc devs)
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Zooming with the dpad is what I miss most from my touch pro. It's scroll wheel works very well for dynamic zoom but it would be nice to try something similar with the xperia optical stick.
one thing that i would like to change in opera is that new tabs open up in the background, is there a way to do this?
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He is right. Go to a site like IPChicken.com and look at the Browser string under the 'Advanced' section and you'll see what Opera is reporting to each site you visit. Opera has a way to 'spoof' the User Agent to be like Firefox or IE 6 for example. Type in: about:config in the address bar, and scroll all the way down to User Agent and try 2 and 3 (Firefox & IE, respectively).
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i've updated the user agent in opera but i'm still being directed to mobile versions of sites. anyone else having this problem ? any ideas ?
thanks in advance ...
are you surfing over Wifi or your mobile networks connect. Website use a series of tricks to workout which version of their site they think is best for your device.
Almost all of these sites however should provide a link which allows you to visit the full site, which you may need to bookmark to aviod repeating the steps each time.
artesea said:
are you surfing over Wifi or your mobile networks connect. Website use a series of tricks to workout which version of their site they think is best for your device.
Almost all of these sites however should provide a link which allows you to visit the full site, which you may need to bookmark to aviod repeating the steps each time.
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i'm surfing over my provider's network. this wasn't an issue when i was using the non-bundled version of opera. most of the websites i have gone to either don't do browser sniffing or have used the user agent rather which has meant that i've been browsing the full sites.
since switching to the bundled version of opera i'm not constantly getting the mobile versions ...
sevans21 said:
Zooming with the dpad is what I miss most from my touch pro. It's scroll wheel works very well for dynamic zoom but it would be nice to try something similar with the xperia optical stick.
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Well you know the volume buttons do zoom in and out, right?
It's not as convenient as on the Diamond/Touch Pro, but does the trick.
Repost from my other post for HTC Dash (Excalibur) This version is for the Snap:
Mobile Browser for our HTC Dash 3G Snap, its called UCWEB Super Browser 6.63. This is the formal non-beta release, it is very stable (has not crached or froze up yet and I've been using it for a few days), it is very fast, has TONS of options and well (I hate to say it) is a bit better then Opera Mobile. It works flawlessly with Google (like Googles new "my location" feature on mobile search, GMail and others where Opera does not work or only half works. Security is very good and its fast as heck in rendering (it renders pages on the device not a remote server) pages and gives you the option of preformating to your devices screen size.
A quick feature summery:
Main Features:
• FREEWARE - Its free cant get better then that
• Adaptation for small screen
• Data traffic statistics
• Visited history
• Domain name quickly input
• Supporting multi-formatted file
• Supporting web local-storage
• Multi-windows browsing
• Page dynamic optimization
• Picture optimizing display
• Shortcut Keys (user defined)
• RSS Feed Subscriptions
• Built in E-mail Client for POP3 and IMAP, full support for attachments
• Comprehensive search features (user definable)
• Download Manager - Resume broken download connections
• Personal Data Manager - Saves web sites to your device, export bookmarks
All in all I give it a solid 10 out of 10
Check it out here: UCWEB6
Download the Windows Mobile 6.1 CAB file here: UCWEB6-63-300-33-09021910
I really like this browser. its super fast... definitely worth a try
its fast..its cool BUT it doesnt support Flash..which is major since i use CNBC for there stock ticker.
if they implemented flash . this would be the best browser hands down!
I am impressed.
Up until I bought the Ozone, I had always relied on PIE, IE6, and Opera Mobile. With Ozone in hand, IE6 was my only browser as Opera Mini and Skyfire are not worth the download. I never really cared for the interface and limitations. At least IE6 was simple to use, tabbed support and the ability to switch to column browsing would make it much better.
But, out of nowhere, this speedy simple browser beats them all. It will take a bit of adjusting to get used to the interface, but this will become my browser of choice. The only downside is flash or lack thereof.
In reality, I think most people will utilize different browsers for different tasks. Most of the web sites I visit are simple in structure and work wonderfully with this browser.
I'm sold. Thank you for providing a useful tool. Hopefully, someone might cook this into a new rom to have fun with.
Flash support is on the way, hopefully soon
Does UCweb works like operamini and skyfire i.e. through their server or does it work like opera mobile i.e. direct to the sites ?
tahdor said:
Does UCweb works like operamini and skyfire i.e. through their server or does it work like opera mobile i.e. direct to the sites ?
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Security is very good and its fast as heck in rendering (it renders pages on the device not a remote server) pages and gives you the option of preformating to your devices screen size.
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I searched aorund, and found that it does work through UCWeb proxy. The proxy cached the websites and hence seend to content to the browser faster.
At least I personaly not very comfortable with accessing the net via such poxies specially the sites which need login and can be based on cookies. Such proxies do cache cookies as well and that scares me alot. It is like giving out passwords to such proxies.
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I searched aorund, and found that it does work through UCWeb proxy. The proxy cach the websites and hence seend to content to the browser faster.
At least I am personaly not very comfortable with accessing the net via such poxies. Such proxies do cache cookies as well and that scares me alot. It is like giving out passwords to such proxies.
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I searched aorund, and found that it does work through UCWeb proxy. The proxy cach the websites and hence seend to content to the browser faster.
At least I am personaly not very comfortable with accessing the net via such poxies. Such proxies do cache cookies as well and that scares me alot. It is like giving out passwords to such proxies.
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Actually no it doesn't, all page rendering is done on the device if you are using the Windows Mobile version (which is what I posted about and linked to). The JAVA version uses UCWeb proxy servers but we are not using the Java version now are we
Perhaps you need to sharpen your 'search around' skills a bit.
Does this browser have a desktop mode? I always get the mobile site and I cannot find a setting to change that.
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Actually no it doesn't, all page rendering is done on the device if you are using the Windows Mobile version (which is what I posted about and linked to). The JAVA version uses UCWeb proxy servers but we are not using the Java version now are we
Perhaps you need to sharpen your 'search around' skills a bit.
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Here are some links. There are more. I wish you were correct.
http://wapreview.mobi/?p=881
UCWEB, TeaShark and Opera Mini are all proxy based browsers. All traffic to and from the Web passes through a proxy server that parses and renders the page before compressing it for display by the thin client browser. Proxy based browsers have both advantages and disadvantages compared with direct browsers like Netfont, Opera Mobile and the embedded mobile browsers of most phones.
http://wapreview.com/blog/?p=2106
"Like Skyfire and Opera Mini, UCWEB is a proxy based browser where pages are rendered on a server and compressed before being sent to a thin browser client."
http://symbianism.blogspot.com/2009/07/mobile-web-browsers-skyfire-bolt-and.html
http://forum.dailymobile.se/index.php?topic=1653.5;wap2
"Proxy based, data compressing mobile web browser UCWEB 6.3"
Here is link to UCWEB site. Somebody posted on how to change the proxy, but got him/herself banned with all posts removed. Hmmm, so they want to keep it secret as well.
http://forum.ucweb.com/viewthread.php?tid=806
Bupahs,
May be you can access the link http://www.lagado.com/proxy-test and see if UCWEB access is via proxy. I will install it and try when I get to an area where I can get wireless access (at present I have only wired access).
tahdor said:
Bupahs,
May be you can access the link http://www.lagado.com/proxy-test and see if UCWEB access is via proxy. I will install it and try when I get to an area where I can get wireless access (at present I have only wired access).
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Confirmed. It uses proxy. When you access http://www.lagado.com/proxy-test with UCWEB, it will show that the request came from IP 67.228.166.109. Now whois shows that this IP address is in China. http://whois.domaintools.com/67.228.166.109 and hosted by softlayer.com.
Tried this browser on the HTC Ozone.
Slow. Seriously...it took FOREVER to connect to anything, especially on the startup.
After trying it on 10 Sites the speed never improved.
Horrible rendering (Mobile IE does a better job and is faster!)
No thanks...uninstalled.
tahdor said:
Confirmed. It uses proxy. When you access http://www.lagado.com/proxy-test with UCWEB, it will show that the request came from IP 67.228.166.109. Now whois shows that this IP address is in China. http://whois.domaintools.com/67.228.166.109 and hosted by softlayer.com.
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Something fishy going on, UC forum support says its not on a proxy for WM devices, apparently it is.. I think I will stop using this until I can find out about security
Bupahs said:
Something fishy going on, UC forum support says its not on a proxy for WM devices, apparently it is.. I think I will stop using this until I can find out about security
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Glad to be any help. I owe you alot from past.
Bupahs said:
Something fishy going on, UC forum support says its not on a proxy for WM devices, apparently it is.. I think I will stop using this until I can find out about security
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Keith, did you ever look further into this?
Are you still using this browser?
Ghost of Jaco said:
Keith, did you ever look further into this?
Are you still using this browser?
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Nope, tahdor was 100% correct (my hats off to him) so I dumped the browser.
you can choose whether u want to go via a proxy or not
There is a simple option in ucweb (the windows mobile versions - ppc and smartphone) to choose if u want to use the proxy or not.
PPC, ucweb 7
Menu (the bottom left button) -> Preference -> General Settings -> "WAP access via Server"
Have used a few versions of ucweb 6 both on PPC and Smartphone
They too had this option.
Any idea how to stop Opera from loading "stupid" iphone/mobile versions of webpages?
If I use Internet Explorer on the HD2, I get the "real" webpage, while in Opera, I only get a strange mobile-version.
Load Opera... go into settings->display... untick mobile view.
I also suffer with this problem and mobile view is unchecked. Opera randomly opens mobile versions of pages...
vessk0 said:
I also suffer with this problem and mobile view is unchecked. Opera randomly opens mobile versions of pages...
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Me too. I've unchecked mobile view, and yet it still loads the mobile versions of pages if i visit the url directly. If i visit the page via a google search (or a fave of the full desktop version) it's all ok.
vessk0 said:
I also suffer with this problem and mobile view is unchecked. Opera randomly opens mobile versions of pages...
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They could be cached. Clear Opera of all history... that should do the trick.
Solution
hello, i got a solution for you go in opera and type in the adress bar: opera:config it opens the preferences editor then go to: user prefs and change under: custom user-agent the string to: Opera/10 Windows NT 6.1; U; en) and instead of en you could type in your locale code i.e. de for germany or any country else. then press the save button unter the whole user agent setting page restart the opera ant have fun hope this helps you.
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hello, i got a solution for you go in opera and type in the adress bar: opera:config it opens the preferences editor then go to: user prefs and change under: custom user-agent the string to: Opera/10 Windows NT 6.1; U; en) and instead of en you could type in your locale code i.e. de for germany or any country else. then press the save button unter the whole user agent setting page restart the opera ant have fun hope this helps you.
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The current value of that preference is:
HTC_HD2_T8585 Opera/9.7 (Windows NT 5.1; U; en)
So we're deleting the bit at the beginning about the HD2? I'm assuming the brackets around the windows bit are unimportant, but we're changing the NT version to 6.1 too?
Also, I'm assuming that if we're still using opera 9.7, then we stick with a value of 9.7 rather than 10?
By default, Opera will only occasionally open mobile pages and when it does, IE is there on your handset to use instead. I found that when I tried the iPlayer tweak in the tweaks thread, Opera then opened every page as the mobile version. I hard to hard reset to get it working properly again.
sunking101 said:
By default, Opera will only occasionally open mobile pages and when it does, IE is there on your handset to use instead. I found that when I tried the iPlayer tweak in the tweaks thread, Opera then opened every page as the mobile version. I hard to hard reset to get it working properly again.
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I'm certain that adjusting the opera config page will solve this problem, since it determines how the browser identifies itself to web servers. It's just a question of making sure you set the right value. I've had to adjust these config pages on desktop firefox before to control preferences. They all use a similar system to get at core preferences.
EDIT: I have no interest in switching to IE to view certain pages. Interestingly though, I'm having the same issue with IE anyway. As i say, I'm pretty sure this fix will work.
EDIT2: If i had to guess, i'd assume that the reason setting the option in the settings page doesn't work all the time, is that it causes the browser to identify itself in a "hi, i'm a phone but i'd like a desktop page please" instead of just "hi, i'd like a desktop page please". Again, i'd speculate that not all webservers differentiate between "mobile phone" and "mobile phone that wants a full desktop page"
Thanx for the replies!
I hate having to configure a browser to work, as I test a lot of software and hard-reset the phone quite often.
I'll be using IE instead, untill they release a fix for this.
I suspect you will be waiting a while as there is nothing to 'fix'. This is a mobile browser on a mobile device doing what it is supposed to do and doing what a proportion of users will want it to do.
It can be configured to behave differently for those than want it but you are going to have to actively make that choice. Don't forget that some people will be charged by the byte downloaded and will want their pages as skinny as possible.
My Opera loads desktop pages I would say approx 90% of the time, the ones it won't load properly IE will. So I'm perfectly happy with the browsing capabilities of the HD2. In fact it's just about all I am happy about with! The HD2 is a fantastic web browsing device, far better than any mobile handset I have ever used.
Well, i tried changing it to
Opera/9.7 (Windows NT 6.1; U; en)
without all the "HTC" stuff at the beginning, and it still loads the mobile version of the bbc page, when i visit www.bbc.co.uk
Any ideas?
Can't guarantee this will work, but you could try going into opera:config - User Agent and set Spoof Useragent ID to 3 (for IE). I have had some success with this in the past.
Not sure if you guys have found an answer to this, but for me, the following works.
In opera go to "opera:config"
Scroll down to "User prefs" and open this
Scroll down to "UAProf URL Enabled" and uncheck this (remove the tick)
Restart opera, and that should do it.
removed for uselessness.
Aleemz said:
Not sure if you guys have found an answer to this, but for me, the following works.
In opera go to "opera:config"
Scroll down to "User prefs" and open this
Scroll down to "UAProf URL Enabled" and uncheck this (remove the tick)
Restart opera, and that should do it.
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Works a treat. Nice find mate
what about for opera mobile 10?
I have 10 beta and I don't see the UAProf
Thanks.
Aleemz said:
Not sure if you guys have found an answer to this, but for me, the following works.
In opera go to "opera:config"
Scroll down to "User prefs" and open this
Scroll down to "UAProf URL Enabled" and uncheck this (remove the tick)
Restart opera, and that should do it.
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Tried it here on the 1.66 ROM, made no difference? still getting directed to mobile websites
It works
Actually, this change to opera:config does work on the 1.66 ROM, but remember to save the change to preferences by hitting Save at the bottom of the page!
Well, when I say it works: it made Opera stop loading the mobile version of Google News, but CNBC still insists on displaying its dumb mobile page when I type cnbc.com. So it's not a 100% fix, but maybe this is down to some websites detecting that a phone is accessing them and so showing their mobile page no matter what?
Any tips appreciated as the HD2 is too good to view mere mobile pages on!
David
DMAND said:
Tried it here on the 1.66 ROM, made no difference? still getting directed to mobile websites
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I have been search this forum for an answer to this problem but none have worked.
When i search using the google search option under the address bar in opera it redirects me to google mobile. If i search using the search option when I start opera, the standard homepage search, it uses classic google, in the same spot and using the same search term.
With such a large screen I prefer using classic google rather than mobile.
Is there a way to stop opera from using mobile google?
I have tried changing the UAprofurl enabled to 0
and changing the spoof to 2 and 3.
if i search using the search bar in the internet tab it also seds me to google mobile.
ROM is vodafone UK 1.41
Opera is the standard 9.7 out of the box.
any one else have this problem?
Set Google as your homepage and it will be the classic version. I don't search from the address bar but I suppose the mobile version could come in handy from time to time.
charliebarter said:
any one else have this problem?
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It is functioning correctly - there's nothing wrong with your app or settings. It is a bit strange though. You'd expect all 3 searches to use the same.
Anyway, there's a "sort of" fix for it. It still uses google mobile, but it opens pages properly, not mobile versions.
Do a search, from the search on the internet tab, and when you get the results page scroll to the bottom and click on settings. If you set "Format web pages for your phone" to "Off" and click Save, it stores a cookie on your phone so all links from google mobile open full websites.
I think it's the best of both worlds, but still think it's strange that it doesn't just use google classic in the first place.
Ah well
I have the same issue. I have set Google as my home page, but I would like the google search option to return results in google classic. Would love to know if there is a way of doing this.
johncmolyneux said:
It is functioning correctly - there's nothing wrong with your app or settings. It is a bit strange though. You'd expect all 3 searches to use the same.
Anyway, there's a "sort of" fix for it. It still uses google mobile, but it opens pages properly, not mobile versions.
Do a search, from the search on the internet tab, and when you get the results page scroll to the bottom and click on settings. If you set "Format web pages for your phone" to "Off" and click Save, it stores a cookie on your phone so all links from google mobile open full websites.
I think it's the best of both worlds, but still think it's strange that it doesn't just use google classic in the first place.
Ah well
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This doesn't work, try going to the Sun newspaper for instance. The site opens the mobile version in Opera and the desktop version in IE.
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This doesn't work, try going to the Sun newspaper for instance. The site opens the mobile version in Opera and the desktop version in IE.
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I don't know what to say to that - it works on mine. I always do this as I agree with the OP and prefer Google classic.
Maybe the Sun website has a mobile version and that's where the redirection occurs. Does it happen if you search for the sun newspaper from google classic?
Did you try it on any other sites, or just that one?
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This doesn't work, try going to the Sun newspaper for instance. The site opens the mobile version in Opera and the desktop version in IE.
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Some sites try to determine whether or not you are using a mobile device and will automatically send you to there mobile site.
harolds said:
Some sites try to determine whether or not you are using a mobile device and will automatically send you to there mobile site.
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Yeah - I just tried The Sun and it does it no matter how you get there.
The above advice does work for making google mobile search open standard versions of sites, and not the google reformatted versions.
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Yeah - I just tried The Sun and it does it no matter how you get there.
The above advice does work for making google mobile search open standard versions of sites, and not the google reformatted versions.
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The Sun website works perfectly when navigated there via IE though, from a mobile device. What does IE do that Opera can't manage?
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The Sun website works perfectly when navigated there via IE though, from a mobile device. What does IE do that Opera can't manage?
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It's probably down to the useragent identifier of the browser. Maybe the IE useragent just identifies it as IE, whereas the Opera mobile one identifies it as a mobile browser. That's just a thought though, as I've not looked into that at all.
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The Sun website works perfectly when navigated there via IE though, from a mobile device. What does IE do that Opera can't manage?
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One of the ways (may be others I don't know) websites use what's called the UserAgent to determine what type the browser is, and if the site doesn't recognize the UserAgent as a mobile device then it assumes it's not.
UserAgent:
Opera: HTC_HD2_T8585 Opera/9.7 (Windows NT 5.1; U; en)
IE: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; HTC_HD2_T8585; Windows Phone 6.5) UP.Link/6.3.1.20.0
So your guess is as good as mine why the site does what it does.
Same here.
Boring.
For instance, the famous French newspaper Le Monde.
If you search "lemonde" on Google it will show you the mobile version of www.lemonde.fr
How to change this?
arturobandini said:
Same here.
Boring.
For instance, the famous French newspaper Le Monde.
If you search "lemonde" on Google it will show you the mobile version of www.lemonde.fr
How to change this?
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Use IE.
Change Opera's UserAgent. Don't know how, maybe it's in the registry somewhere.
The user agent can be changed by opening opera and navigating to opera:config and then under user prefs, there's a setting "custom user agent".
I've changed it to the useragent of my PCs current version of IE, by going to http://whatsmyuseragent.com/ but it doesn't make any difference.
There's also a user agent setting (not under user prefs), but it's just a number so I don't know what it relates to. There's probably a settings file somewhere that specifies a list of useragent strings. (Maybe in windows\opera9 somewhere).
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The user agent can be changed by opening opera and navigating to opera:config and then under user prefs, there's a setting "custom user agent".
I've changed it to the useragent of my PCs current version of IE, by going to http://whatsmyuseragent.com/ but it doesn't make any difference.
There's also a user agent setting (not under user prefs), but it's just a number so I don't know what it relates to. There's probably a settings file somewhere that specifies a list of useragent strings. (Maybe in windows\opera9 somewhere).
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I found this which is what the user agent relates to, i've set mine to 2 and this makes no difference, might try all of them and get back to you.
The numbers under user agent =
There are 5 options where you can choose from:
1 = Identify as Opera
2 = Identify as Firefox
3 = Identify as Internet Explorer
4 = Mask as Firefox (Opera not mentioned in user agent string)
5 = Mask as Internet Explorer (Opera not mentioned in user agent string)
Sorry I have to ask this, but I am no where near as savvy with a Windows Mobile device as most of you guys are, but maybe you can help? Just installed Opera10 on my HD2 "T-Mobile US," and for some reason it always defaults to "mobile' sites. Example, I type in youtube.com, but I go to m.youtube.com is there anyway to get to the actual youtube, I know it's possible I've seen it video. Please any help would be greatly appreciated.
John Wagner III said:
Sorry I have to ask this, but I am no where near as savvy with a Windows Mobile device as most of you guys are, but maybe you can help? Just installed Opera10 on my HD2 "T-Mobile US," and for some reason it always defaults to "mobile' sites. Example, I type in youtube.com, but I go to m.youtube.com is there anyway to get to the actual youtube, I know it's possible I've seen it video. Please any help would be greatly appreciated.
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I don't use Opera 10, but I know the m.youtube problem is also present in Opera 9.7. In the m.youtube homepage, you should see a "Show Full Version" (something like that) at the very bottom of the page.
Just a thought: Do you have anything in the Opera 10 Settings/Menu page that says "View Mobile pages"? If so, make sure that is unchecked.
I have both Opera browsers on the HD2. Not sure what opera version is the default, but I have no issues with getting the mobile sites. The default Opera will go to the real sites "non-mobile." I decided to get Opera 10 because a saw a video of it installed and you could enable flash, show I can watch "real' youtube videos. I really want flash so I can watch TV from fancast.com. I didn't see and full version option, but there is a check box for "mobile view;" checked off or on there is no difference.
At rhe bottom of the page there are two options Mobile and Desktop,chose the Desktop and bookmark it.
hagba said:
At rhe bottom of the page there are two options Mobile and Desktop,chose the Desktop and bookmark it.
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There is no desktop setting, only mobile and fullscreen. I have the mobile setting turned off, and still getting only "mobile sites"
John Wagner III said:
I have both Opera browsers on the HD2. Not sure what opera version is the default, but I have no issues with getting the mobile sites. The default Opera will go to the real sites "non-mobile." I decided to get Opera 10 because a saw a video of it installed and you could enable flash, show I can watch "real' youtube videos. I really want flash so I can watch TV from fancast.com. I didn't see and full version option, but there is a check box for "mobile view;" checked off or on there is no difference.
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opera 10 doesn't play flash any better than opera 9.7. Youtube and a select few other videos can be watched, but something like fancast will probably require skyfire.
Opera 10 issue
I have recently had a problem with Opera 10. I no always get an error message stating 'could not find proxy server' or 'the url address is busy' etc. Reverting to opera mobile 9.7 removed this problem. Something to consider.
(If anyone knows how to fix this I'd be chuffed. I don't want to hi-jack the thread).
Desmac
John Wagner III said:
There is no desktop setting, only mobile and fullscreen. I have the mobile setting turned off, and still getting only "mobile sites"
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Facebook started doing that to me - I don't want to use m.facebook, but it's quite hard (even with bookmarks) to stay on the full web site.
It was working fine - and I didn't change my version of the browser - so I assume facebook themselves changed something, but it must still be something to do with the way opera mobile identifies itself with a web site.
And certainly don't want to use the Microsoft fb app - what a stunning demonstration of how not to write an app that was
The User-Agent field in the http request is identifying your device as a mobile so the web site is serving it's mobile version. The are ways to edit the User-Agent string to fool the web site into providing the full version straight off..
Airborne Aircrew said:
The are ways to edit the User-Agent string to fool the web site into providing the full version straight off..
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Apparently (I haven't tried it myself yet)
In the address bar, type in
about:config
scroll down on the page to item User Agent and click on it.
It says Spoof user agent ID
Change it to one of the following numbers:
1 is Opera Mobile
2 is Firefox
3 is desktop IE 6