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Hi! Hope you could help me (again) :?
First I need to tell - I was searching the forum and net, but unfortunately I can't find what I'm exactly looking for.
(I'm asking about Wizard not Universal / Himalaya...)
What is in your opinion the best (easiest, fastest, most readable with 320x240 resolution, working full screen and in landscape mode, cheapest...) way to remotely connect to the desktop workstation?
[1] Connecting to the Linux box
1A. Command line / shell via ssh/ssh2 – there’s no need to use any special server software nor configuration, but there’s a question about the best client software. Right now I'm going to use http://www.pocketputty.net/. Did you try any of these with Wizard?
PocketPuTTY 0.1 for WM2003 (stable)
PocketPuTTY 0.2 for PPC2002 (highly experimental, unstable)
PocketPuTTY 2006-05-04 dev snapshot for WM2003 (latest, highly experimental)
How stable is the “dev snapshot” version and is there any other (free or almost free) ssh/ssh2 client for PocketPC?
I used to use PuTTY for Symbian S60 and it worked like a charm...
1B. Remote Desktop – what is the best client-server software to do it?
I used to use VNC for Linux PC – Linux PC connection, but I’m not sure if it’s good idea to use VNC with (so) small screen. Any tips and tricks or suggestions how to configure both ends?
[2] Connecting to WindowsXP PC
2A. Command line / shell via ssh/ssh2 – is it possible at all?
Will I need software acting as a server on the PC or there is this kind of software already in the system? Tips & Tricks & configuration examples are very welcome
2B. Remote Desktop – the best client & server software to do it?
Should I use VNC (server and client, like under Linux) or Remote Desktop server already incorporated in WinXP (what about the client in this case)?
And finally – where I can find a manual, help files or specification of the TSC pre installed on my device? Is this software useable?
Maybe I’m looking for something I already have…
Sorry for plenty of questions, but longer I'm searching - more questions I have.
I really appreciate yours opinions
All advices, links, PM's are very, very welcome
Thanks in advance
exbros
exbros said:
And finally – where I can find a manual, help files or specification of the TSC pre installed on my device? Is this software useable?
Maybe I’m looking for something I already have…
exbros
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To use the pre installed terminal server you need to turn on remote desktop (winxp pro) and input your ip address on the wizard in the terminal server application, as long as your firewall is configured to allow the connection you should be able to control your pc using the software you already have, alternatively you can use services like log me in etc.
good luck
post back if you hit trouble
Rob
I use logmein.com's basic, free service. simple, quick, encrypted and you dont have to remember ip's or anything.
try http://gomyplace.com/ if you need something simple just to browse files on the remote and execute commands in the command shell
you will need just a regular internet browser to access the remot host
free, open source (GPL), works in NATed, firewalled environments, dynamic IPs, etc.
runs on Linux/Win32/Mac requires Java on the host machine
client needs only internet browser
Linux
PocketPuTTy is the way to go for connecting to a linux machine remotely, I'm using the latest dev build on my PDA and haven't found any issues yet, although i have only been using it for about 2 days. It works fine on the screensize too as its only command line.
Windows
I wouldn't even bother with command line for windows, as its horribly underpowered and wont provide you with much usability. It is possible to run SSH on windows, but like I said, I would see no reason too.
I used to have a VNC client for my old Axim X50 which ran great, it supported screen scaling, so it would fit my entire 1600x1280 screen onto the PDA no problems, and zoomed in when I required. It was only really usable to perform very simple tasks, but thats all I needed. Unfortunately I don't remember the clients name, however there are a number on the market that provide the same features.. maybe trying the following?
http://www.parystec.demon.co.uk/pt_vnc_WM5.htm
I use realVNC for my server. Oh and any VNC client should work with any VNC server, so if you installed VNC on linux, this should work fine.
Hope that helps
From Imate Jas Jar (HTC) to Desktop PC windows 2000/XP via the internet...
These services offer solutions..
remotelyanywhere.com
http://www.remotelyanywhere.com/template.asp?page=home
PC Anywhere
http://www.symantec.com/home_homeoffice/products/features.jsp?pcid=pf&pvid=pca12
Pocket Mobile PC PTvnc
http://www.parystec.demon.co.uk/pt_vnc_WM5.htm
z2 Remote2PC
http://www.z2software.com/Remote2PC.htm
What I need..
- Best connection with bandwith issues
- Easy setup and management with IP issues ( dynamic IP etc)
- Best Visual view of Desktop PC on PPC
- Best Desktop PC command control, ie do all thinks I want on DeskPC
- Easy management thru routers or firewalls etc...
- I know nothing on this stuff so easy pease for me...
Cost not an issue, performance and freedom of control of Desktop PC is ??? Can any one comment. Which is the ROLLS ROYCE of Remote access from PPC to Destop PC or Laptops via internet ( not short distance bluetooth or WiFi.,,,,Internet long distance)
Thanks in Advance...
logmein.com - fantastic and free
Sir, thats the same as "remotelyanywhere"...
I having a play with it now, any ideas how to insall it on PPC ..
I downloaded an install file Setup.msi
How do I do this ??
Wow, you're right - had no idea.
Well that (logmein) options a no go, only Windows 2003 and earlier. NOT WM5 !!!!
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Well that (logmein) options a no go, only Windows 2003 and earlier. NOT WM5 !!!!
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No idea what you're talking about there, I'm using it right now to hit my desktop to reply to your post, from my WM5 HTC Universal...
*Edit - added in-use screen shot, resized way down - actual image quality is fantastic.
i used logmein on my PDA2K and now my T-Mobile MDA works great on both 2003SE and WM5.0
i just wish i had a bigger screen......
Did you use it thru PIE on WM5, cause I used thru Net Front 3.3...
It asks you to download some cab when you first use it, I did this, restarted and then it asked me to download again, again etc...
So using PIE ( pocket internet explorer ) does it work thru that ???
VNC...
I'm using RealVNC to start a VNC service on the desktop... You can download a free VNC server software from here:
http://www.realvnc.com/
As for the client, I'm using one from Mochasoft:
http://www.mochasoft.dk/vncce.htm
Low bandwidth requirement and most importantly speedy...
Digs said:
Did you use it thru PIE on WM5, cause I used thru Net Front 3.3...
It asks you to download some cab when you first use it, I did this, restarted and then it asked me to download again, again etc...
So using PIE ( pocket internet explorer ) does it work thru that ???
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yes, must use PIE
Using TightVNC servic on the desktop (supports scaling) and .Net VNCviewer on the Exec. Good enough, fast enough, and free.
THE WINNER IS, HANDS DOWN...
z2 Remote2PC
Best Control, speed and visual controls, encryption, etc
For ease of use and "free is good" factor:
Logmein.com
- note:
When using logmein.com, PIE must be not be hacked. If changed from original version, it will not work (this was a month ago). Remote Desktop will connect but nothing will show up.
- tried with opera and also netfront, both didn't work for me.
opera would not even connect, and netfront will connect but won't show anything.
I concur with Net Front 3.3..
But z2 Remote PC, even after the Fuss of setting up an IP address at no-ip.com its all worth it.
I use PTvncWM5 to controll my home media pc.
It use verry low bandwidh on gprs
and looks great on Wifi
What do these offer beyond Terminal Services client? OK, TS logs you on in parallel on the server machine, but other than that? Seems pretty good on bandwidth and the age-old rule of "the less s/w you install, the less you'll screw up" applies :wink:
I got more toys and functions to play with via 2z remote2pc. Thats whyI chose this software.
Hi,
I am a new Hermes owner and I am a networker.
So I am loking for anything related to network on Hermes to play with
unfortunately I am very confused with so many non-working applications for PPC. This is my first PPC device and I still couldn't go further then seeing my IP address on the device.
Of courser I can use it for any network application but I want to sniff, analyze, collect info...
So far, I've heard the following applications:
- VxSniffer
- PhatNet and Phatnet Pro
- Hitchhiker
- Commview wifi for PPC
- Windows Mobile Network Analyzer PowerToy for WM5
- Pocket Warrior
- CENiffer 3.0
- wififofum
- wifiknife
VxSniffer:
didn't work on my Hermes - don't know why but it says that it can't load driver.
it only worked once but then after a reset it gave the same error.
do you know the cause ?
PhatNet Pro:
didn't also work. but it never works. VxSniffer worked at least once.
Windows Mobile Network Analyzer PowerToy for WM5:
It works but really does nothing other than giving me obvious information.
Wifiknife and Wififofum aren't really doing anything sensible. Maybe just for fun.
I didn't try CommView, Pocket Warrior, CENiffer, Hitchhiker yet. But I really have no hope.
I've read the following article :
http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/index.php?blog=3&p=1226&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1
But it gave me no hope...
So I am still looking for software.
Which one really works on Hermes and really is useful ?
How do you use VxSniffer ? (I ask this because it was the only one that seemed like it would work and I see some people on this forum talking about it)
Does hitchiker or commview work ?
Please help me
????????
Well erm..... what is it you want to do?
Hitchhiker works if you want to connect to a network. Wififofum that you say does nothing sensible gives you info about networks in the area. That is what these sort of apps. are designed for. If you want more then you have to be more specific in stating your purpose.
At random I might suggest something like logmein as a network tool to control your PC, but I live in fear that you will say that's not what I'm looking for it does nothing sensible!!
You ask for apps that really are useful - and that's the point, useful for what?
More detail please?
Mike
ok; detail...
I am looking for network analyzing, packet capturing, sniffing tools.
also talking about wifi, wep key sniffing would be nice.
also, I am looking for an emule/edonkey client for PPC.
I have mobiphant but a better client (if exists) would be nice.
btw, what information do you get from wififofum (I mean information that standart builtin wlan tool does not supply) ?
logmein is a pc controlling software as far as I know from my readings throughout the forum. I need this kind of application but my limitation is that I can only use remote desktop protocol. (formy work pc)
now, you'll say "use the built in TSC" but it is not usefull with 320x240 screen size. So I tried Nyditot to achieve a higher screen resolution. Then it made my stylus unuseful (screen alignment problem)
you see, there are too many problems that I need to solve with my Hermes.
emule/edonkey, wep key snifers - get a life!!
Come on ...
Want to use your HERMES as a hacking tool?
Forget it ...
why not ?
hey guys, why not ?
I don't understand you.
there are these applications...
mobiphant is a working emule client. I used it and I even downloaded someyhing on the go.
I just couldn't find the right sniffing application.
commview and hitchhiker should be working. I just don't know how to install and use these.
if phatnet, commview, hitchhiker, vxsniffer, and other tools are written. then there is a demand. and also there is possibility.
so why not we don't use it ?
I don't understand why you are negative about this.
I think there is negativity because the combination of applications you seem interested in suggests that you want to drive up to someones house or perhaps detect the neighbours network, crack their wep key, and start downloading their files.
Or maybe you have just given the wrong impression??
Mike
I think it's wrong impression.
I am a network expert in a serious network and telco company.
I have high bandwidth internet access both at work and at home.
I don't need to crack my neighbour's wep key.
It's just that I love network tools and now that I have a new toy which can access wifi, I want to play with it.
I need network sniffer to troubleshoot my voip applications on the hermes.
I need the emule client to download ANYTHING from e2dk networks while I am connected with my hermes.
there is no evil idea. I just want to use tools that are available. I am not familiar with this pocket pc OS (I was a PalmOS user for 6 years) and I need help.
besides, if I need to hack my neighbour's network I could use my laptop with many available tools.
That seems fair comment to me.
Unfortunately not being an expert in this area, we'll have to wait for replies from those who are.
Mike
I've found another one: ministumbler
it's available at :
http://www.stumbler.net
and
http://www.wardriving.pl/new.php?nr=193
it seem like a new application however, it didn't work...
Maybe I am doing something wrong.
Should I enable wifi card or disable it before using such applications ?
as soon as I enable my wifi card it connects to my wifi network.
maybe this interrupts the sniffer application ???
I use WiFi Companion, so you can chack that out if it suites you
Here is the link: http://www.jiwire.com/socket-wifi-companion-product-review-1.htm
wifi companion seems like a nice application. should I install it to devşce or the storage card ?
any special instrucions ?
You can install it on storage card, it works fine from there..
No special instruction needed for network experts..
here is what i have on my Hermes.
btcrawler - bluetooth snarfing/scanning tool (not really that useful but fun none the less)
mtoken - serial/telnet/ssh client
pocket tty - ppc version of putty
sniffi - wireless scanning tool (btw ministumbler doesnt work on the hermes)
wififofum2 - wireless (not sure which one i like yet)
vxipconfig - release renew etc..
vxutil - ping/traceroute/finger/nslookup etc...
Others
CE Sniffer v3.1 - packet capture (like ethereal, i have used it on my old ppc havent installed it on hermes yet)
vxSNMP - read/write snmp (havent installed it)
vxSniffer - packet capture (havent installed it, but Cambridge software generally is very good)
WEP cracking - havent seen anything for ppc running windows. Generally you need linux on a IPAQ or similar.
thank you
I will try these...
However, I have a very generic problem:
when I install something related to wifi adapter, I generally can't run it.
all of the apps I tried say that :
"can't load driver"
"driver not loaded"
"driver not available"
I got these for most of the apps. Now I try the Socket Wi-fi Companion as suggested and I get a similar error:
"one or more components of WLAN tools were not found, or there are too few resources available to start the program. please verify proper installation of WLAN tools and try again"
I tried several times and the result is same.
My wifi is working. I am connected to my home wifi router now.
So what is the problem ?
Should I start these apps when my wifi is on or off ?
should I run them when I'm connected to a wlan or not ?
maybe there is a conflicting application I think but the only continuous running app is Wisbar Advanced.
What do you suggest ?
most of the wifi apps were written a while ago and dont contain drivers for the wifi in the hermes. A good example is ministumbler, it has not been updated for years.
You dont really need a wifi scanner to do more then tell you a network exists, if it is secured, what channel, power of the network, and if your lucky what brand of AP it is. sniffi and wififofum2 both do this and have gps tagging too.
There are plenty others out there though.
senergy,
I understand you but I can't run any of the apps that you (and others) report working.
I have a problem using these drivers on my hermes. what could it be ?
anyone using any of these sniffing applications successfully on Hermes ?
which vxsniffer version works on Hermes ?
vxSniffer.hpcPro_arm.CAB
vxSniffer.hpcPro_I486.CAB
vxSniffer.hpcPro_mips.CAB
vxSniffer.hpcPro_sh3.CAB
vxSniffer.hpcPro_sh4.CAB
vxSniffer.ppc3_arm.CAB
vxSniffer.ppc3_mips.CAB
vxSniffer.ppc3_sh3.CAB
I still can't get further than "cannot load driver"
I'd go for the PPC ARM cab
Mike
Hi guys, i'm trying WMWifiRouter by using linux, but it doesn't work good..I installed program on my ppc (HTC P3600) then turned on wifi (of my ppc) started WMwifirouter, and then in my pc i saw this network in mode Ad hoc..but i'm unable to use internet by using this software. Some helps???
write me to: [email protected]
Hi there!
I have the same problem too. WMWifiRouter seems to not work at all on Linux.
I use wicd network manager but, it has problems assigning the IP address to the PC.
Anybody knows how to solve this problem??
Any alternatives?
Windows Server 2003
It doesn't seem to play well with Windows Server 2003 either...same results:
it looks like it makes an adhoc connection, but no internet connectivity.
If your OS is not designed for adhoc connectivity (ie: a "home user" windows
system) I think there is a lot more to be done on the PC side to get this working.
I've tried everything from disabling other network interfaces to
altering routing to modifying metrics (all on the server) but still can't
get a hit...though strangely, I briefly did load a Google page (as I was
simultaneously disabling a NIC or something), but I can't be sure it wasn't
just in the IE cache...
I'm going to check out ICS Control because it's still free, and it has
a lot more open manipulation of parms...not geered to be hidden for the
"dumb" user.
I'd like to see the source made available, then we would be
able to contribute to it's further development, and it would not end up
like WMWifi
I think I'll go over here (below) and suggest that
( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=377047 )
A bump for future reference. WMWifiRouter works in linux. Some linux wifi card drivers just don't like the ad-hoc connection mode it uses. The solution is to change the wifi driver. For me, it was the move from madwifi to ath5k. For others, it may involve using ndiswrapper and a native windows driver instead of a native linux one. Now my Ubuntu Jaunty connects fine to WMWifiRouter.
Mint
apienk01 said:
it may involve using ndiswrapper and a native windows driver instead of a native linux one
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I'm using Mint on a HP Mini which I believe does use the ndiswrapper. That just will not connect to WMWIFIRouter.
Martin
I'm using Mint on a HP Mini which I believe does use the ndiswrapper. That just will not connect to WMWIFIRouter.
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Martin,
you "believe" or are sure? Ndiswrapper is not used by default because it involves downloading proprietary Windows drivers specific to your hardware. By default, an open source driver is installed. What is your wireless network card? Type 'lspci' in terminal to find out.
hi, i am facing problem in remote connecting to my laptop from my tp2.
fyi, i am using window vista home, wireless router to connect to the internet.
i have been search for same related article. but what i followed doesnt work.
can anyone help me?
thanks for kind assists
garf
Use RealVNC, it pwns remote desk
XITruthiX said:
Use RealVNC, it pwns remote desk
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where do you get realvnc from
where can i download realnvc?
is it a freeware??
I too have been trying to figure this out. What I found out is that for remote desktop, you need to have windows vista/7 Professional. Windows Vista Home will not allow you to have your computer controlled from your phone.
Yes its freeware
This is the link to the viewer and server for your PC
http://www.realvnc.com/cgi-bin/download.cgi
Now I must say im using XP, I HAVE VNC'd into vista and win7 PCs using the view on my tp2. However on one machine running Win7 I couldnt get the PC to recognize the server app. As of right now I simply use the wifirouter on my tp2, connect to its network and use the assigned IP to log in. RealVNC also allows WAP logins but I havent messed with it simply because I dont really need to lol.
In any case, here's the .cab for our phone attached.
Clinch said:
I too have been trying to figure this out. What I found out is that for remote desktop, you need to have windows vista/7 Professional. Windows Vista Home will not allow you to have your computer controlled from your phone.
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I believe the reason for this is that the "Home" editions of Vista and 7 don't let you join a domian (that's one of the things M$ wants you to upgrade for), which as I understand it is necessary for a remote desktop connection.
XITruthiX said:
Use RealVNC, it pwns remote desk
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You kidding me? VNC is a mess compared to Remote Desktop.
With RD, you get the closest thing possible to having a full fledged desktop computer on your phone. And it is pretty damn close.
Honestly when I'm at home and my phone is connected to the wifi network, more often than not I prefer to use it as a mere dummy terminal interface to my main computer.
Remote Desktop + any desktop web browser absolutely destroys every mobile browser ever created. Entire web pages load instantly and somehow look exactly like they would on a regular computer! Hell, you even get Flash support (a bit choppy but it's something).
And the Rhodiums screen resolution gives more than enough room for most web pages to render without the need to zoom out.
Remote Desktop even allows you to easily transfer files wirelessly between your phone and computer by mapping a drive on it that links to your phones file system.
The only thing I'd say against it is that it can be difficult to click on small targets even with the stylus.
I do sympathize with users who run a Windows version without the Remote Desktop Service built in. RDP is probably one of the very few good reasons to get Pro or above versions of Windows.
garfchong said:
hi, i am facing problem in remote connecting to my laptop from my tp2.
fyi, i am using window vista home, wireless router to connect to the internet.
i have been search for same related article. but what i followed doesnt work.
can anyone help me?
thanks for kind assists
garf
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Windows Vista Home edition does not include Windows Remote Desktop therefore quite obviously you cannot connect to your laptop via your phone, gotta get professional or ultimate for that.
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/...ther-computer-using-Remote-Desktop-Connection
Read "notes"
but, of course there are hacks to make it work fine lol it is included in service pack 1 but is not "labeled" try this
Steps to Add Remote Desktop to Vista Home Premium:
1. Download termsrv.zip here
2. Extract Termsrv.zip to a temp directory
3. Start “Command Prompt” in Administrator mode (right click Run As Administrator) it in in Start Menu, All Programs, Accessories, just right click on it
4. Run the corresponding batch file for your Vista edition (if you extracted it to your desktop then it will be C:\Users\[enter user name]\Desktop\Premium
5. Allow TCP Port 3389 on Windows Firewall or any other firewall product if needed
6. Done
(just tested on Windows Vista Home Premium and it worked fine)
(dont forget to reboot)
well i have windows 7 and i cant get remote desktop mobile to work either
Having issues connecting to my media server via winmo RDP, i can connect to it via my laptops, any ideas? Its win 7 Pro with a few tweaks
Badwolve1 said:
Having issues connecting to my media server via winmo RDP, i can connect to it via my laptops, any ideas? Its win 7 Pro with a few tweaks
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What error message does the WinMo RDP client give you?
Jay321 said:
well i have windows 7 and i cant get remote desktop mobile to work either
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which edition?
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What error message does the WinMo RDP client give you?
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Could not find server, which is wiers cause all my pcs are interconnected, i can control any one of them from any PC
I guess a good place to start would be to try pinging the computer you want to connect to. You can do that with dotFreds Task Manager. You are trying to connect on a LAN correct?
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I guess a good place to start would be to try pinging the computer you want to connect to. You can do that with dotFreds Task Manager. You are trying to connect on a LAN correct?
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I messed around with this earlier and couldnt get it to work. My pc is running windows 7 ultimate 64bit edition. I'm almost positive I had all the settings correct but I was trying to connect to my pc which was connected wirelessly to the router. Would this not work? If not how would one go abouts doing this without a lan connection? I'd love to get this baby working and am willing to be a guinea pig so that hopefully we can get a procedure together for all others
after trying remote desktop mobile to make it work i just give up!!!
try this go to www.logmein.com make a free account download logmein software to you laptop install the free softwares !
install cab to tp2
use the two files below.
1. Install XDA first, reboot,
2. install IEtoggle, open IEtoggle, switch IE to PIE,
3.start up IE and sign into logmein.
This worked for me. the only thing is not working is the keyboard
keyboard problems go here !! http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=444641 it might work !
dantegl36 said:
I messed around with this earlier and couldnt get it to work. My pc is running windows 7 ultimate 64bit edition. I'm almost positive I had all the settings correct but I was trying to connect to my pc which was connected wirelessly to the router. Would this not work? If not how would one go abouts doing this without a lan connection? I'd love to get this baby working and am willing to be a guinea pig so that hopefully we can get a procedure together for all others
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I routinely use the RDP client on my phone to connect to my desktop computer over wifi LAN. Although my computer is hardwired to the network.
Are you able to remote desktop to your pc with another computer?
Did you select the "Allow connections from computers running any version of Remote Desktop" option in the System Properties:Remote dialog?
Could there be some 3rd party firewall software you are running that might be blocking the RDP port?
Also, I've found that when having network issues especially involving wifi, often reseting your router to its default settings, and if necessary upgrading the firmware can help.