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SSH,IRC,IM cleints & Linux & connectivity/syncing to

Hi Guys,
Some simple Questions that I cant seem to find much of a conclusive answer to for most.
Looking at purchasing the Orange version of the Himalaya/XDAii (SPV M1000) VERY shortly, but wondered if you guys (whom seem to know everything about these toys) could answer me some quick questions:
All software ideally would be opensource & and under FreeBSD or GPL2.
1. SSH Client - are there any available that support passphrases etc (recomendations)?
2. IRC Client - is there any (recomendations)?
3. IM Clients (other than M$'s) (recomendations) - looking for minimal functionality?
4. Does PPC2003 have a task switcher, or do you have to close, and reopen things?
5. Iv'e seen some posts here that talk about Linux connectivity, how good is it, and what exactly can be synced, and to what?
6. Can any of the syncing of contacts/mail etc be done to NON M$ apps on the PC with/without 3rdparty apps? Ideally anyone know of any apps to sync with Mozilla (under XP).
7. I assume email is regular pop/smtp/imap so one can whack in custom servers/details etc (ala non hotSPAMrelay.com stuff)? Or is there an alternative to M$LookOut thats known to work with mutiple accounts on the XDAii?
8. What level of Java is supported on these little things? e.g. will they run MindTerm SSH clients?
9. Anyone run this with sync/connection to WinXP running in a VM under Linux?
10. Is there a cygwin availble for the PPC2003 OS, and is it anygood? (Iv'e heard rumours of a M$ written version)
11. Can the Himalayer be used as a webcam via Bluetooth/GPRS? Im thinking 'not of me' webcam, being the camera is on the back
I was very badly dissapointed by the obscure and totally lacking information on M$ site - though it's probably there, just impossible to find like most other things.
Many Thanks Guys!

Re: SSH,IRC,IM cleints & Linux & connectivity/syncin
1. SSH Client
Avaible some clients. I think there are a PuTTY port too. I think without a keyboard, console window is unuseable.
2. IRC Client - is there any
I never use, search google.
3. IM Clients (other than M$'s) (recomendations) - looking for minimal functionality?
There is MSN built in, and does not working, because it need to upgrade There are an official ICQ program ww.icq.com.
This is nice:
http://www.movsoftware.com/products/imov/imov.htm
(AOL, ICQ, MSN)
4. Does PPC2003 have a task switcher, or do you have to close, and reopen things?
There is a very basic taskmanager-like memory manager utility built in. There is some utility program, they make a taskbar like desktop computers, and there is some real taskmanager and process wiever program. Search PHM taskmanager on the net.
To test, how the PocketPC working, download the free MS development SDK. It contains an emulator.
5. Iv'e seen some posts here that talk about Linux connectivity, how good is it, and what exactly can be synced, and to what?
I tested linux on ipaq 3630. Its good, but syncing with linux or windows is not working at this time. (only contacts as I remember)
http://www.handhelds.org
There is screenshots too, but it not work on XDA I think.
6. Can any of the syncing of contacts/mail etc be done to NON M$ apps on the PC with/without 3rdparty apps? Ideally anyone know of any apps to sync with Mozilla (under XP).
As I heard, you can synchronize with BAT.
7. I assume email is regular pop/smtp/imap so one can whack in custom servers/details etc (ala non hotSPAMrelay.com stuff)? Or is there an alternative to M$LookOut thats known to work with mutiple accounts on the XDAii?
I don't understand the question well because of my wrong english.
You can setup different accounts, and there is many 3th party e-mail clients. A free and good one: nPOP
8. What level of Java is supported on these little things? e.g. will they run MindTerm SSH clients?
There is several (mor than 10) different JAVA stuff for pocket pc. Search it on this forum! I have never tried java.
9. Anyone run this with sync/connection to WinXP running in a VM under Linux?
I don't know. The XP under the VM can see USB?
10. Is there a cygwin availble for the PPC2003 OS, and is it anygood? (Iv'e heard rumours of a M$ written version)
Good idea What do you want with your pocket pc? )
11. Can the Himalayer be used as a webcam via Bluetooth/GPRS? Im thinking 'not of me' webcam, being the camera is on the back
dont know
If you have more questions, write it. I will answer what I can.

Remote Access PPC to Desktop : Choices..

From Imate Jas Jar (HTC) to Desktop PC windows 2000/XP via the internet...
These services offer solutions..
remotelyanywhere.com
http://www.remotelyanywhere.com/template.asp?page=home
PC Anywhere
http://www.symantec.com/home_homeoffice/products/features.jsp?pcid=pf&pvid=pca12
Pocket Mobile PC PTvnc
http://www.parystec.demon.co.uk/pt_vnc_WM5.htm
z2 Remote2PC
http://www.z2software.com/Remote2PC.htm
What I need..
- Best connection with bandwith issues
- Easy setup and management with IP issues ( dynamic IP etc)
- Best Visual view of Desktop PC on PPC
- Best Desktop PC command control, ie do all thinks I want on DeskPC
- Easy management thru routers or firewalls etc...
- I know nothing on this stuff so easy pease for me...
Cost not an issue, performance and freedom of control of Desktop PC is ??? Can any one comment. Which is the ROLLS ROYCE of Remote access from PPC to Destop PC or Laptops via internet ( not short distance bluetooth or WiFi.,,,,Internet long distance)
Thanks in Advance...

logmein.com - fantastic and free

Sir, thats the same as "remotelyanywhere"...
I having a play with it now, any ideas how to insall it on PPC ..
I downloaded an install file Setup.msi
How do I do this ??

Wow, you're right - had no idea.

Well that (logmein) options a no go, only Windows 2003 and earlier. NOT WM5 !!!!

Digs said:
Well that (logmein) options a no go, only Windows 2003 and earlier. NOT WM5 !!!!
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No idea what you're talking about there, I'm using it right now to hit my desktop to reply to your post, from my WM5 HTC Universal...
*Edit - added in-use screen shot, resized way down - actual image quality is fantastic.

i used logmein on my PDA2K and now my T-Mobile MDA works great on both 2003SE and WM5.0
i just wish i had a bigger screen......

Did you use it thru PIE on WM5, cause I used thru Net Front 3.3...
It asks you to download some cab when you first use it, I did this, restarted and then it asked me to download again, again etc...
So using PIE ( pocket internet explorer ) does it work thru that ???

VNC...
I'm using RealVNC to start a VNC service on the desktop... You can download a free VNC server software from here:
http://www.realvnc.com/
As for the client, I'm using one from Mochasoft:
http://www.mochasoft.dk/vncce.htm
Low bandwidth requirement and most importantly speedy...

Digs said:
Did you use it thru PIE on WM5, cause I used thru Net Front 3.3...
It asks you to download some cab when you first use it, I did this, restarted and then it asked me to download again, again etc...
So using PIE ( pocket internet explorer ) does it work thru that ???
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yes, must use PIE

Using TightVNC servic on the desktop (supports scaling) and .Net VNCviewer on the Exec. Good enough, fast enough, and free.

THE WINNER IS, HANDS DOWN...
z2 Remote2PC
Best Control, speed and visual controls, encryption, etc

For ease of use and "free is good" factor:
Logmein.com
- note:
When using logmein.com, PIE must be not be hacked. If changed from original version, it will not work (this was a month ago). Remote Desktop will connect but nothing will show up.
- tried with opera and also netfront, both didn't work for me.
opera would not even connect, and netfront will connect but won't show anything.

I concur with Net Front 3.3..
But z2 Remote PC, even after the Fuss of setting up an IP address at no-ip.com its all worth it.

I use PTvncWM5 to controll my home media pc.
It use verry low bandwidh on gprs
and looks great on Wifi

What do these offer beyond Terminal Services client? OK, TS logs you on in parallel on the server machine, but other than that? Seems pretty good on bandwidth and the age-old rule of "the less s/w you install, the less you'll screw up" applies :wink:

I got more toys and functions to play with via 2z remote2pc. Thats whyI chose this software.

logmein

FYI - if you're looking for a good free remote access program try logmein.com
it's free and it's compatible with our mogul's. I've used my phone to access information from both my work PC and Home PC on numerous occasions.

utexascg said:
FYI - if you're looking for a good free remote access program try logmein.com
it's free and it's compatible with our mogul's. I've used my phone to access information from both my work PC and Home PC on numerous occasions.
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VNC is faster.
And open source.
I tried logmein once... it was nice, but I found the interface to be a PITA, and a resource hog in the PC server side.
Also, VNC can let me remote my linux box, my office mac, and my home PC since it is multi-platform. Its cool to show people that I'm running OS X on my Mogul (take THAT, iphone!). This is all stuff logmein, gotomypc, and all the other web-based remote desktop clients won't support.
Those are good for people who don't have the networking knowledge to set up a proper VNC server that can be accessed via a public address.

can you post a link to the viewer you use ? thx!!

I tried VNC once, but I didn't want to waste the time researching and setting it up to be used from anywhere, so I just downloaded Logmein so I could do it easily.

killerkhatiby009 said:
I tried VNC once, but I didn't want to waste the time researching and setting it up to be used from anywhere, so I just downloaded Logmein so I could do it easily.
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easily, perhaps, but also slower and using more resources on the PC side.
Vertig0, there's a bunch of VNC clients you can use. Some are free (the .net one), but the really good ones are commercial (but still cheap... like $20 for PTVnc, which is the fastest of the bunch).

The only problem I have with logmein is that I auto hide the start menu and it is a ***** to trick it into opening.

Hosted Remote Desktop?

I'm hoping to tap the collective knowledge here:
With my new x7500 I can now do most of my work on my phone, but there are a few applications that require I use full Windows XP/Vista (preferably the former). Inside the network I will sometimes use WM6 Remote Desktop Mobile to access my "main PC" and run the programs that I need.
I'm wanting to hit the road, and although I could leave a PC running "at home", there's no one there to ensure that it stays running, and also my upload link at home ain't great.
So... I was wondering if there is a hosted service where I can rent a Windows/Mac desktop with a nice fat pipe attached to it?
A service that would allow me to install my own software (e.g. Flash) and use Terminal Services Client on my x7500 to connect to it, and they would ensure that it stays running? Preferably for not too much money...
Any ideas/recommendations?

I can supply you with a windows server you can connect to with remote desktop and install software, let me know what specs you need?

whats the best software to control my computer from my phone

as the title says:-o
i am looking for software that i can instal on my blackstone and control my computerscreen
i know there is remote desktop on blacksotne but i think i am to stupid cause i cant get it to work:-o
my os is windows 7 so it should support touch input from the touchscreen of the phone(i hope this could be used)
also copy/pasting/streaming would be a nice feature in the software
someone can help me out and tell me wich software you are using to control youre computer:-o

one of the vnc setups
install the vnc server on the pc
and the client on the pda

have you tried remote desktop that comes cooked in a lot or roms ?
i usually use that never had any really issues with it - good starting point before trying out vnc

does it have to be software based. Have you tried things like Logmein or other browser based solutions?
Ho'okani

Rudegar said:
one of the vnc setups
install the vnc server on the pc
and the client on the pda
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thanks i will take a look at it and see if i can set it up
imy300 said:
have you tried remote desktop that comes cooked in a lot or roms ?
i usually use that never had any really issues with it - good starting point before trying out vnc
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yep i have tried this option but i am to big of a noob to manage to set it up
i have tried to set it up but i never got a connection with my desktop
maybe this is because the network here is router behind modem

Hookani said:
does it have to be software based. Have you tried things like Logmein or other browser based solutions?
Ho'okani
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i have looked at logmein
and downlaoded but also never managed to get it work
i gues my router behind modem is stopping it from working
maybe one of you guys could help me out or tell if it is possible
the internet cable comes in in a modem
from the modem there goes a cable to the wireless router
and there goes a cable to a router
from the router the cable goes to my computer
also when i look up my ip adress and type it in in my webbrowser i gett in the router/modem(dont know wich one i enter)
i can see some poorts opend up on tcp and udp but when i try to enter a new one it never gets saved
i hav tried on other coputers to to manage to enter new poorts but all without succes
maybe it isnt possible as my fathers computer already uses remote desktop between his two computers
he has two computers
booth are on the other side from the house(one is buisness and one is his private computer) and the are linked to eachtother with remote desktop

i think the best sollution is a hamachi client on your desktop and your phone.
so you can use remote deskop with hamachi ip adresses an this throught firewalls & co.
ypo need to configure thw windows 7 pc via remote-desktop-settings to allow a non windows 7 system to acces. also you have to set up a password for every user of the system except the guest. also you have to enter in remotte deskttop-settings who should access an what rights he should have on the system (depends on the user profile)
if you need help google: hamachi remote deskttop windows 7
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