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O2 XDA - wireless 'linkup' experiment! Help?

Hi,
I was just wondering if its possible to 'link' the XDA Exec with multiple Laptops so that the laptops all show the XDA's display? Lets assume all Laptops have wi-fi, bluetooth and run Windows XP.
Purposes may be to share a PP presentation, show a software demo etc. (I need to give a tutorial and demo in a room with no projector ).
I was curious if anyone has had any experiance with this? Any advice regarding the best setup (or software) would be great. Cheers.

Nobody any ideas whatsoever?

You could install windows media encoder on one of the laptops, and a remote control app. Then run the remote control app so you can see your phone's screen. Once that's working you can run windows media encoder in screen caputre mode, all the other laptops will be able to connect it it then.

Broon said:
Nobody any ideas whatsoever?
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You can play with Microsoft's "ActiveSync Remote Display". The tool allows you to work with your PPC remotely from your laptop/PC using ActiveSync connection. But you will need to install ActiveSync and this tool to every laptop
If it is a matter of presentation, why don't you copy your presentation to local server's shared folder and ask people to open the file from this folder and listen to your instructions, like Going to next slide... At least there won't be any hassle with intervention to participants' laptops and personal space ))
ps: if you do possess a PC you can run something like MS Netmeeting and establish AS connection with your PDA through AS Remote Display at your PC. Share AS Remote Display application and ask people to connect to your PC's NetMeeting or any other remote conference software
Let us know on your results
Cheers

IMate->WM2k5 said:
If it is a matter of presentation, why don't you copy your presentation to local server's shared folder and ask people to open the file from this folder and listen to your instructions, like Going to next slide... At least there won't be any hassle with intervention to participants' laptops and personal space ))
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Thats my last resort - I hate doing presentations like this especially when we have the technology to do something 'fancy' :lol:
I will give some feedback to let you know how I managed it (I will succeed)!

Cheers for the ideas!

IMate->WM2k5 said:
You can play with Microsoft's "ActiveSync Remote Display". The tool allows you to work with your PPC remotely from your laptop/PC using ActiveSync connection. But you will need to install ActiveSync and this tool to every laptop
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I just had a look at AS Remote Display and it seemed this would do the trick - However, it does not work with Windows Mobile 5.0.
Does anyone know of a release of AS Remote Display for Windows Mobile 5? I had a look around but there does not seem to be much on offer which is compliant with 5.0.

Right, another problem.
I just installed an app called : Laplink Controller thinking as it offered the functionality I was looking for.
After a supposidly successful install I tried to run it - no joy. It reccommended I uninstall and re-install the software, so I did.
When re-installing I got a message saying:
Cannot load resouce library:
\Windows\MWRes???412L.dll
It now comes up everytime I do a soft reset. Anybody seen this error?

LogMeIn is PERFECT

i have the new ROM and i am registered with LOGMEIN.com (a remote desktop/file tran etc site), its all free to use and it works perfectly with the universal, you can zoom in or have the desktop fit to screen (best in landscape mode), its so easy, i can connect throw our corp filewall, ive tested it connecting to XP Pro SP2 and also Server 2003, both look so good on the phone :lol:
Has anyone else tryed this site or anyone have the full account (have to pay for that) so i can see if its worth buying (not that you ever have too)

echo that, I think it's a fantastic service!

This is amazing - it even suppots duel monitors.

I agree!
It certainly made my life easier. No more USB key!
I tried the following before settling to Logmein Free:
1. GotomyPC - Excellent speed and interface but very expensive for private users.
2. WebEx - very good, slower than GotomyPC, much cheaper.
3. Logmein Pro - Identical to Logmein Free but extra features such as File Transfer, Print to local printer.
I would say even if you are fairly competent at setting up your own remote access using other software, Logmein free is still worth a look.
P.S. The place where I work has a Plasma display(Wifi connected)that needs to be changed almost on a daily basis. I do this by Logmein to my office computer and use VNC from my office computer to update it!

I discovered it a few months ago and it's fantastic. I am not decided yet on whether to upgrade to Pro, though if I did the only reason really would be the filesharing option.
VNC was my previous choice, but it's much slower - even when connecting over the local network. With logmein I can be sat on the sofa at home, controlling the PC upstairs and chatting on MSN. I've also used it from work to control the home PC. I can't believe how fast it is.
Cheers
Ant

my girlfriend uses it at wrk as msn etc and a forum she goes to is blocked, howvever she uses og me in to use or computer to use msn and go to her forums etc lol

how is this different from the remote desktop feature that is built into windows xp?

jab1a said:
i have the new ROM and i am registered with LOGMEIN.com (a remote desktop/file tran etc site), its all free to use and it works perfectly with the universal, you can zoom in or have the desktop fit to screen (best in landscape mode), its so easy, i can connect throw our corp filewall, ive tested it connecting to XP Pro SP2 and also Server 2003, both look so good on the phone :lol:
Has anyone else tryed this site or anyone have the full account (have to pay for that) so i can see if its worth buying (not that you ever have too)
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Hold on, it's free and fantastic? What's the catch??

OK, just installed it.
This folks, is FANTASTIC.
If I forget to start my downloads after I've left for work, no problems. Just log onto my PC and start the program!
Id I need a file from my PC, just log into Outlook and email it, to myself!
Wow, just WOW. And p1ss easy to set up.
Anyone know what the data throughput it - I'm gonna test it now with 3G on, instead of through Wifi - hopefully the speed will still be decent, but I don't want to be stung for huge data download charges.
EDIT: Speed via GPRS and 3G is still well usable.
What a find OP!

How do i access it using opera browser from my pda, it seems that logmein only work with IE, but is seems that there is nothing on the screen.. do i need to install java for it? where can i get this java apps..?
thxs

Hmm ja very strange, in opera and PIE I get the same message, saying "A Windows Pocket PC 2003 or newer is required...." and then asks you to download some "downgrade" CAB...which I install but it still doesnt work neither IE or Opera... Im a bit clueless what the problem is since the FAQ also doesnt mention anything about that.
Edit: Ok, after a reset of the universal it works. Speed is pretty lame over GPRS but what can you expect...its for free and its great. I can even control my Linux machine via VNC from the Windows Remote machine that I access via Logme in...Thanks a lot for that great tip!

I have used both Remote Desktop (the server is built into Windows XP PRO and Windows 2003) and LogMeIn.com.
Remote Desktop doesn't have a full screen mode.
Remote Desktop is faster. But, since my computer is behind a wireless router, I wasn't able to make it work - no matter how I configure the router, it can't connect.
So I use LogMeIn.com, the free version. It's slower but it has a full screen mode. I have absolutely no problems related to the firewall (wireless router). It just works.
Absolutely fantastic.

I use logmein pro for my 'always on' HTPC and the free version for our laptop. It is, quite simply, wonderful.
Runs well from my work network and my trusty Himalaya. I wonder if there is a way to use it to set up an activesync alternative to get around the lack of wifi support now :?:

Been using this since September last year. Awesome product and I still can't believe it's free.

excuse me, but using it with netfront 3.3 or opera 8.5 it just permit me file transfer. non desktop control!
what am i doing wrong?
i'm accessing it with a jasjar

lucazaffiro said:
excuse me, but using it with netfront 3.3 or opera 8.5 it just permit me file transfer. non desktop control!
what am i doing wrong?
i'm accessing it with a jasjar
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Since you have IE on the handheld anyhoew, think of your IE exclusively as your interface for LogmeIn.

belfast-biker said:
lucazaffiro said:
excuse me, but using it with netfront 3.3 or opera 8.5 it just permit me file transfer. non desktop control!
what am i doing wrong?
i'm accessing it with a jasjar
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Since you have IE on the handheld anyhoew, think of your IE exclusively as your interface for LogmeIn.
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yes but from my desktop i see a lot of oppotunity to use my "controlled" pc. with NETFRONT i see just the option "file transfer". with opera after installing a specific cab i'm not allowed to connect
any hint?

that is strange but i can only think that it has something to do with the way those 2 bits of software handle ActiveX, IE is very good at it, the last person was right, just think of ~IE as your excusive logmein.com browser for remote desktop, its a hardship but somethings you have to live with :wink:

You should be aware that this service exposes you to being hacked, it uses SSL to encrypt between LOGMEIN.com & your PC & PDA but has to unencript all the data on the LOGMEIN.com server as you can't have back to back SSL connections.
Anyone hacking the server would be able to connect to your PC or PDA as if they were you.
Suggest at the very least that you don't leave an open connection & have a short timeout to a login screen on your PC.
Mike

Its a great bit of software.... I havent really played around with any other software like this, but this seems to do the job for me quite well....
i do however agree with the security issue... Yes you are opening a potential hole in your security albeit a very small one

logmein

FYI - if you're looking for a good free remote access program try logmein.com
it's free and it's compatible with our mogul's. I've used my phone to access information from both my work PC and Home PC on numerous occasions.

utexascg said:
FYI - if you're looking for a good free remote access program try logmein.com
it's free and it's compatible with our mogul's. I've used my phone to access information from both my work PC and Home PC on numerous occasions.
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VNC is faster.
And open source.
I tried logmein once... it was nice, but I found the interface to be a PITA, and a resource hog in the PC server side.
Also, VNC can let me remote my linux box, my office mac, and my home PC since it is multi-platform. Its cool to show people that I'm running OS X on my Mogul (take THAT, iphone!). This is all stuff logmein, gotomypc, and all the other web-based remote desktop clients won't support.
Those are good for people who don't have the networking knowledge to set up a proper VNC server that can be accessed via a public address.

can you post a link to the viewer you use ? thx!!

I tried VNC once, but I didn't want to waste the time researching and setting it up to be used from anywhere, so I just downloaded Logmein so I could do it easily.

killerkhatiby009 said:
I tried VNC once, but I didn't want to waste the time researching and setting it up to be used from anywhere, so I just downloaded Logmein so I could do it easily.
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easily, perhaps, but also slower and using more resources on the PC side.
Vertig0, there's a bunch of VNC clients you can use. Some are free (the .net one), but the really good ones are commercial (but still cheap... like $20 for PTVnc, which is the fastest of the bunch).

The only problem I have with logmein is that I auto hide the start menu and it is a ***** to trick it into opening.

Extend desktop to PPC

Is there a free bit of software that will allow me to use the ppc as an extended desktop.
I have played with side window, but would rather not pay for it as i don't think I will use it enough lol

RDC is another option

Would that extend the desktop (use the ppc as a monitor)?

yes..its a short form for REMOTE DESKTOP SHARING..just as u do in wiindows..btw which device do u have and which OS ?

I am on windows XP with an htc touch running wm6

daverage said:
Is there a free bit of software that will allow me to use the ppc as an extended desktop.
I have played with side window, but would rather not pay for it as i don't think I will use it enough lol
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With MyMobile you can do that!
You find it here

Not quite what i need, i use that to control my ppc, what I want is to actually use my ppc as a second monitor, but thanks NatroXz

if u have WM6..remote Desktop sharing is already their..just configure it to connect it to ur computer

ok, so that is letting me remote control my pc, how do i get it to act as a monitor instead? thanks so far!!

sorry a bit off subject
basically my mouse has died on me and i was wondering wheather there is a app to turn my ppc into a touch pad which would connect via activsync and control my pointer on my desktop pc ?????
thanks

yep, look up ppc tablet (not free mind)
http://www.aacompserv.com/AACompWeb/Modules/PPCTablet/WhatIsIt.aspx

Check out http://www.innobec.com/en/products.php for what I am looking for. It is good, but I want to find a free way of doing it, as it is quite handy having somthing like notepad open in the ppc whilst i work in the main screen

thanks for the reply i downloaded to software you recommended but it did not install on my x51v .
i ran the cab file and went through the set up ............it said it is installed but could not find it anywhere on the ppc looked in programs and file explorer ....nothing!
i ve got a axim x51v with a cooked a03 rom
thanks for your help
PRE

os x
I was just looking for a program like SideWindow for OS X - I can't find anything. Does anyone know of something that will let me use my WM6 device as an external monitor under OS X?
-GB

So i´ve tried sidewindow.. @ my ppc (htc p-3401 wm5) and the ppc screen stay a little bit white, it lose the phone signal(what?! conflict ?) and nothing works..
tehre´s any equivalent software? or anyone knows how to fix the problem with sidewindow?

Touchpad Pro for Windows Mobile

I saw that it was posted once before with no real answers. My question: Can the program Touchpad Pro be ported to Windows Mobile or can a program be made that has the same functionality. I am willing to pitch some funds to whoever will do it.
These are the links to the demo of Touchpad Pro and their website.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWnbF...eature=related
http://www.touchpadpro.com/2008/04/touchpad-pro-overview.html
The Touchpad Media Server works similar but doesn't give full control.

Nagrom Nniuq said:
I saw that it was posted once before with no real answers. My question: Can the program Touchpad Pro be ported to Windows Mobile or can a program be made that has the same functionality. I am willing to pitch some funds to whoever will do it.
These are the links to the demo of Touchpad Pro and their website.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWnbF...eature=related
http://www.touchpadpro.com/2008/04/touchpad-pro-overview.html
The Touchpad Media Server works similar but doesn't give full control.
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Doesn't Windows Remote Desktop do that?

l3v5y said:
Doesn't Windows Remote Desktop do that?
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No - if you log in to remote desktop on thew phone, you will be logged out on the PC. With this you can work simultaneously on the PC and the phone.
But this program is nothing new - just a VNC client. There are already a few of them available for WM (including some free ones). Just do a google search for windows mobile VNC client.

mr_deimos said:
No - if you log in to remote desktop on thew phone, you will be logged out on the PC. With this you can work simultaneously on the PC and the phone.
But this program is nothing new - just a VNC client. There are already a few of them available for WM (including some free ones). Just do a google search for windows mobile VNC client.
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Okay... Obviously I didn't read that site in enough detail...

With RDP (Standard windows remote desktop) on WinXP, it is actually possible to have more than one person logged in at a time.
See here

mr_deimos said:
No - if you log in to remote desktop on thew phone, you will be logged out on the PC. With this you can work simultaneously on the PC and the phone.
But this program is nothing new - just a VNC client. There are already a few of them available for WM (including some free ones). Just do a google search for windows mobile VNC client.
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Thanks man. I guess I just didn't know what to search for. I'll check them out and see if they do the same thing.

You can also use logmein Basic which is free up to a certain amount of computers. I believe 5 pcs. https://secure.logmein.com/createaccount.asp
LogMeIn is one of the many choiced that one has when deciding on remote access software. LogMeIn Basic is freeware, and allows you to install the client onto a single machine that can be access via the LogMeIn website through a browser. With a small memory footprint, the program does not interfere if you leave it up while you decide to load up a game.
Features
Although the full paid version of LogMeIn automatically allows you to transfer files by dragging, stream audio, network printers, etc, the free version has none of these features. Although there is a free 30 day trial, these features are nice but not necessary for basic remote access needs.
Speed
Bandwidth is a large factor in the speed and refresh of LogMeIn, and although I run fiber optics at home, there is still a small amount of lag between connected clients and the server. Loss of some keystrokes can be a pain if you are a fast typer, but this is no different then Windows Remote Desktop.

But the thing that I really need is for the computer to not be logged out while I am on it. I want the phone to be a touch pad/mouse/remote control for the computer. So any program that logs you out of the PC while you are remotely using it is useless to me and does not do what Touchpad Pro does. Hence why VNC is good.

Nagrom Nniuq said:
But the thing that I really need is for the computer to not be logged out while I am on it. I want the phone to be a touch pad/mouse/remote control for the computer. So any program that logs you out of the PC while you are remotely using it is useless to me and does not do what Touchpad Pro does. Hence why VNC is good.
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Logmein does not log you out. You will see it on the screen and it also goes through firewalls.

Gotcha, thanks.