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[Wizard] to PC Remote Access - any help or advice?

Hi! Hope you could help me (again) :?
First I need to tell - I was searching the forum and net, but unfortunately I can't find what I'm exactly looking for.
(I'm asking about Wizard not Universal / Himalaya...)
What is in your opinion the best (easiest, fastest, most readable with 320x240 resolution, working full screen and in landscape mode, cheapest...) way to remotely connect to the desktop workstation?
[1] Connecting to the Linux box
1A. Command line / shell via ssh/ssh2 – there’s no need to use any special server software nor configuration, but there’s a question about the best client software. Right now I'm going to use http://www.pocketputty.net/. Did you try any of these with Wizard?
PocketPuTTY 0.1 for WM2003 (stable)
PocketPuTTY 0.2 for PPC2002 (highly experimental, unstable)
PocketPuTTY 2006-05-04 dev snapshot for WM2003 (latest, highly experimental)
How stable is the “dev snapshot” version and is there any other (free or almost free) ssh/ssh2 client for PocketPC?
I used to use PuTTY for Symbian S60 and it worked like a charm...
1B. Remote Desktop – what is the best client-server software to do it?
I used to use VNC for Linux PC – Linux PC connection, but I’m not sure if it’s good idea to use VNC with (so) small screen. Any tips and tricks or suggestions how to configure both ends?
[2] Connecting to WindowsXP PC
2A. Command line / shell via ssh/ssh2 – is it possible at all?
Will I need software acting as a server on the PC or there is this kind of software already in the system? Tips & Tricks & configuration examples are very welcome
2B. Remote Desktop – the best client & server software to do it?
Should I use VNC (server and client, like under Linux) or Remote Desktop server already incorporated in WinXP (what about the client in this case)?
And finally – where I can find a manual, help files or specification of the TSC pre installed on my device? Is this software useable?
Maybe I’m looking for something I already have…
Sorry for plenty of questions, but longer I'm searching - more questions I have.
I really appreciate yours opinions
All advices, links, PM's are very, very welcome
Thanks in advance
exbros

exbros said:
And finally – where I can find a manual, help files or specification of the TSC pre installed on my device? Is this software useable?
Maybe I’m looking for something I already have…
exbros
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To use the pre installed terminal server you need to turn on remote desktop (winxp pro) and input your ip address on the wizard in the terminal server application, as long as your firewall is configured to allow the connection you should be able to control your pc using the software you already have, alternatively you can use services like log me in etc.
good luck
post back if you hit trouble
Rob

I use logmein.com's basic, free service. simple, quick, encrypted and you dont have to remember ip's or anything.

try http://gomyplace.com/ if you need something simple just to browse files on the remote and execute commands in the command shell
you will need just a regular internet browser to access the remot host
free, open source (GPL), works in NATed, firewalled environments, dynamic IPs, etc.
runs on Linux/Win32/Mac requires Java on the host machine
client needs only internet browser

Linux
PocketPuTTy is the way to go for connecting to a linux machine remotely, I'm using the latest dev build on my PDA and haven't found any issues yet, although i have only been using it for about 2 days. It works fine on the screensize too as its only command line.
Windows
I wouldn't even bother with command line for windows, as its horribly underpowered and wont provide you with much usability. It is possible to run SSH on windows, but like I said, I would see no reason too.
I used to have a VNC client for my old Axim X50 which ran great, it supported screen scaling, so it would fit my entire 1600x1280 screen onto the PDA no problems, and zoomed in when I required. It was only really usable to perform very simple tasks, but thats all I needed. Unfortunately I don't remember the clients name, however there are a number on the market that provide the same features.. maybe trying the following?
http://www.parystec.demon.co.uk/pt_vnc_WM5.htm
I use realVNC for my server. Oh and any VNC client should work with any VNC server, so if you installed VNC on linux, this should work fine.
Hope that helps

hermes and network tools

Hi,
I am a new Hermes owner and I am a networker.
So I am loking for anything related to network on Hermes to play with
unfortunately I am very confused with so many non-working applications for PPC. This is my first PPC device and I still couldn't go further then seeing my IP address on the device.
Of courser I can use it for any network application but I want to sniff, analyze, collect info...
So far, I've heard the following applications:
- VxSniffer
- PhatNet and Phatnet Pro
- Hitchhiker
- Commview wifi for PPC
- Windows Mobile Network Analyzer PowerToy for WM5
- Pocket Warrior
- CENiffer 3.0
- wififofum
- wifiknife
VxSniffer:
didn't work on my Hermes - don't know why but it says that it can't load driver.
it only worked once but then after a reset it gave the same error.
do you know the cause ?
PhatNet Pro:
didn't also work. but it never works. VxSniffer worked at least once.
Windows Mobile Network Analyzer PowerToy for WM5:
It works but really does nothing other than giving me obvious information.
Wifiknife and Wififofum aren't really doing anything sensible. Maybe just for fun.
I didn't try CommView, Pocket Warrior, CENiffer, Hitchhiker yet. But I really have no hope.
I've read the following article :
http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/index.php?blog=3&p=1226&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1
But it gave me no hope...
So I am still looking for software.
Which one really works on Hermes and really is useful ?
How do you use VxSniffer ? (I ask this because it was the only one that seemed like it would work and I see some people on this forum talking about it)
Does hitchiker or commview work ?
Please help me

????????
Well erm..... what is it you want to do?
Hitchhiker works if you want to connect to a network. Wififofum that you say does nothing sensible gives you info about networks in the area. That is what these sort of apps. are designed for. If you want more then you have to be more specific in stating your purpose.
At random I might suggest something like logmein as a network tool to control your PC, but I live in fear that you will say that's not what I'm looking for it does nothing sensible!!
You ask for apps that really are useful - and that's the point, useful for what?
More detail please?
Mike

ok; detail...
I am looking for network analyzing, packet capturing, sniffing tools.
also talking about wifi, wep key sniffing would be nice.
also, I am looking for an emule/edonkey client for PPC.
I have mobiphant but a better client (if exists) would be nice.
btw, what information do you get from wififofum (I mean information that standart builtin wlan tool does not supply) ?
logmein is a pc controlling software as far as I know from my readings throughout the forum. I need this kind of application but my limitation is that I can only use remote desktop protocol. (formy work pc)
now, you'll say "use the built in TSC" but it is not usefull with 320x240 screen size. So I tried Nyditot to achieve a higher screen resolution. Then it made my stylus unuseful (screen alignment problem)
you see, there are too many problems that I need to solve with my Hermes.

emule/edonkey, wep key snifers - get a life!!

Come on ...
Want to use your HERMES as a hacking tool?
Forget it ...

why not ?
hey guys, why not ?
I don't understand you.
there are these applications...
mobiphant is a working emule client. I used it and I even downloaded someyhing on the go.
I just couldn't find the right sniffing application.
commview and hitchhiker should be working. I just don't know how to install and use these.
if phatnet, commview, hitchhiker, vxsniffer, and other tools are written. then there is a demand. and also there is possibility.
so why not we don't use it ?
I don't understand why you are negative about this.

I think there is negativity because the combination of applications you seem interested in suggests that you want to drive up to someones house or perhaps detect the neighbours network, crack their wep key, and start downloading their files.
Or maybe you have just given the wrong impression??
Mike

I think it's wrong impression.
I am a network expert in a serious network and telco company.
I have high bandwidth internet access both at work and at home.
I don't need to crack my neighbour's wep key.
It's just that I love network tools and now that I have a new toy which can access wifi, I want to play with it.
I need network sniffer to troubleshoot my voip applications on the hermes.
I need the emule client to download ANYTHING from e2dk networks while I am connected with my hermes.
there is no evil idea. I just want to use tools that are available. I am not familiar with this pocket pc OS (I was a PalmOS user for 6 years) and I need help.
besides, if I need to hack my neighbour's network I could use my laptop with many available tools.

That seems fair comment to me.
Unfortunately not being an expert in this area, we'll have to wait for replies from those who are.
Mike

I've found another one: ministumbler
it's available at :
http://www.stumbler.net
and
http://www.wardriving.pl/new.php?nr=193
it seem like a new application however, it didn't work...
Maybe I am doing something wrong.
Should I enable wifi card or disable it before using such applications ?
as soon as I enable my wifi card it connects to my wifi network.
maybe this interrupts the sniffer application ???

I use WiFi Companion, so you can chack that out if it suites you
Here is the link: http://www.jiwire.com/socket-wifi-companion-product-review-1.htm

wifi companion seems like a nice application. should I install it to devşce or the storage card ?
any special instrucions ?

You can install it on storage card, it works fine from there..
No special instruction needed for network experts..

here is what i have on my Hermes.
btcrawler - bluetooth snarfing/scanning tool (not really that useful but fun none the less)
mtoken - serial/telnet/ssh client
pocket tty - ppc version of putty
sniffi - wireless scanning tool (btw ministumbler doesnt work on the hermes)
wififofum2 - wireless (not sure which one i like yet)
vxipconfig - release renew etc..
vxutil - ping/traceroute/finger/nslookup etc...
Others
CE Sniffer v3.1 - packet capture (like ethereal, i have used it on my old ppc havent installed it on hermes yet)
vxSNMP - read/write snmp (havent installed it)
vxSniffer - packet capture (havent installed it, but Cambridge software generally is very good)
WEP cracking - havent seen anything for ppc running windows. Generally you need linux on a IPAQ or similar.

thank you
I will try these...
However, I have a very generic problem:
when I install something related to wifi adapter, I generally can't run it.
all of the apps I tried say that :
"can't load driver"
"driver not loaded"
"driver not available"
I got these for most of the apps. Now I try the Socket Wi-fi Companion as suggested and I get a similar error:
"one or more components of WLAN tools were not found, or there are too few resources available to start the program. please verify proper installation of WLAN tools and try again"
I tried several times and the result is same.
My wifi is working. I am connected to my home wifi router now.
So what is the problem ?
Should I start these apps when my wifi is on or off ?
should I run them when I'm connected to a wlan or not ?
maybe there is a conflicting application I think but the only continuous running app is Wisbar Advanced.
What do you suggest ?

most of the wifi apps were written a while ago and dont contain drivers for the wifi in the hermes. A good example is ministumbler, it has not been updated for years.
You dont really need a wifi scanner to do more then tell you a network exists, if it is secured, what channel, power of the network, and if your lucky what brand of AP it is. sniffi and wififofum2 both do this and have gps tagging too.
There are plenty others out there though.

senergy,
I understand you but I can't run any of the apps that you (and others) report working.
I have a problem using these drivers on my hermes. what could it be ?

anyone using any of these sniffing applications successfully on Hermes ?

which vxsniffer version works on Hermes ?
vxSniffer.hpcPro_arm.CAB
vxSniffer.hpcPro_I486.CAB
vxSniffer.hpcPro_mips.CAB
vxSniffer.hpcPro_sh3.CAB
vxSniffer.hpcPro_sh4.CAB
vxSniffer.ppc3_arm.CAB
vxSniffer.ppc3_mips.CAB
vxSniffer.ppc3_sh3.CAB
I still can't get further than "cannot load driver"

I'd go for the PPC ARM cab
Mike

Possible to access SD card via WiFi from computer?

Rather than hooking up my G1 via USB, is it possible to access the SD card via WiFi from a PC or Mac?

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Rather than hooking up my G1 via USB, is it possible to access the SD card via WiFi from a PC or Mac?
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I believe installing a FTP server app on your phone can solve this. I have used SwiFTP from Market and it works like a charm.
Regards,
From_Vanov

There is a market app called aFile (used to be Discover) that works for this very well.

Shrivel said:
There is a market app called aFile (used to be Discover) that works for this very well.
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The reviews are horrible :O
http://www.cyrket.com/package/mobi.bbase.discoverpro

The app is horrible. Anyway, I am glad random people cannot surf my sd card, dirty pictures n all.

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The reviews are horrible :O
http://www.cyrket.com/package/mobi.bbase.discoverpro
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hmmm...
I use the app on a daily basis and it has never once crashed or not worked. Guess I'm just lucky.

aFile/Discover doesn't work all that well anymore. It --used-- to work great, but the developer hasn't seemed to keep up with the OS changes. Combine the developers update plus the "Cupcake" releases, you get problems connecting.
So, here's a couple of suggestions. All of these connect over WiFi.
Probably the easiest is Estrongs File Explorer. It will allow you to connect to Windows shares (Samba shares) from your phone and transfer files in either direction.
Another very simple solution is to run SwiFTP on your phone. It's a simple FTP server for your phone. Then you can use Filezilla (or any FTP program on your computer) to connect to your phone via FTP and transfer files back and forth. Make sure you keep the port as 2121, otherwise it won't work.
My personal favorite is a bit different. I set up a Filezilla server on my home network. It's very simple to set up. Then use AndFTP on your phone to connect to the FTP server you are running on your computer. You can take it one step further and have it installed on your home network. Go to dynsys.org and register there. Follow the instructions (fairly simple). This will give you the added benefit of being able to access your files anywhere in the world as long as the Filezilla server is running on your computer/network and your computer hasn't gone into sleep/hibernate AND you have your router configured correctly.
If you need help with any of this, please contact me. This is a feature that I've desperately needed, and I've looked at many different solutions and can probably help you make the right decision and get it working properly.

An another good FTP client for Windows is Total Commander. In the (unlikely ) case you are not using it already, it is a very good file manager. I almost cannot live without it

Thanks blueheeler for the info.
From_Vanov said:
An another good FTP client for Windows is Total Commander. In the (unlikely ) case you are not using it already, it is a very good file manager. I almost cannot live without it
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My favorite is FileZilla on both Mac and PC.

i wonder about the reviews- i am also using afile and it works perfectly for me- i use it every day...i have the latest version too.

MontAlbert said:
i wonder about the reviews- i am also using afile and it works perfectly for me- i use it every day...i have the latest version too.
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It may have something to do with the combination of things.
I know "Discover" worked for me, then aFile came out, and it doesn't.
Here's what I'm using:
Vista x64 Ultimate (also tried on Win 7 RC x64)
Belkin router
JF1.51 (also tried with various Dude versions)
Broadcom 4322AG WiFi driver
I did recently switch from 32 bit Windows to 64 bit if that makes a difference.
Tried with:
a) with Vista firewall
b) Vista's firewall disabled + phone in DMZ
c) Vista's firewall disabled + laptop in DMZ
d) Vista firewall off + router firewall off

need help.. remote desktop mobile

hi, i am facing problem in remote connecting to my laptop from my tp2.
fyi, i am using window vista home, wireless router to connect to the internet.
i have been search for same related article. but what i followed doesnt work.
can anyone help me?
thanks for kind assists
garf

Use RealVNC, it pwns remote desk

XITruthiX said:
Use RealVNC, it pwns remote desk
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where do you get realvnc from

where can i download realnvc?
is it a freeware??

I too have been trying to figure this out. What I found out is that for remote desktop, you need to have windows vista/7 Professional. Windows Vista Home will not allow you to have your computer controlled from your phone.

Yes its freeware
This is the link to the viewer and server for your PC
http://www.realvnc.com/cgi-bin/download.cgi
Now I must say im using XP, I HAVE VNC'd into vista and win7 PCs using the view on my tp2. However on one machine running Win7 I couldnt get the PC to recognize the server app. As of right now I simply use the wifirouter on my tp2, connect to its network and use the assigned IP to log in. RealVNC also allows WAP logins but I havent messed with it simply because I dont really need to lol.
In any case, here's the .cab for our phone attached.

Clinch said:
I too have been trying to figure this out. What I found out is that for remote desktop, you need to have windows vista/7 Professional. Windows Vista Home will not allow you to have your computer controlled from your phone.
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I believe the reason for this is that the "Home" editions of Vista and 7 don't let you join a domian (that's one of the things M$ wants you to upgrade for), which as I understand it is necessary for a remote desktop connection.

XITruthiX said:
Use RealVNC, it pwns remote desk
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You kidding me? VNC is a mess compared to Remote Desktop.
With RD, you get the closest thing possible to having a full fledged desktop computer on your phone. And it is pretty damn close.
Honestly when I'm at home and my phone is connected to the wifi network, more often than not I prefer to use it as a mere dummy terminal interface to my main computer.
Remote Desktop + any desktop web browser absolutely destroys every mobile browser ever created. Entire web pages load instantly and somehow look exactly like they would on a regular computer! Hell, you even get Flash support (a bit choppy but it's something).
And the Rhodiums screen resolution gives more than enough room for most web pages to render without the need to zoom out.
Remote Desktop even allows you to easily transfer files wirelessly between your phone and computer by mapping a drive on it that links to your phones file system.
The only thing I'd say against it is that it can be difficult to click on small targets even with the stylus.
I do sympathize with users who run a Windows version without the Remote Desktop Service built in. RDP is probably one of the very few good reasons to get Pro or above versions of Windows.

garfchong said:
hi, i am facing problem in remote connecting to my laptop from my tp2.
fyi, i am using window vista home, wireless router to connect to the internet.
i have been search for same related article. but what i followed doesnt work.
can anyone help me?
thanks for kind assists
garf
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Windows Vista Home edition does not include Windows Remote Desktop therefore quite obviously you cannot connect to your laptop via your phone, gotta get professional or ultimate for that.
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/...ther-computer-using-Remote-Desktop-Connection
Read "notes"
but, of course there are hacks to make it work fine lol it is included in service pack 1 but is not "labeled" try this
Steps to Add Remote Desktop to Vista Home Premium:
1. Download termsrv.zip here
2. Extract Termsrv.zip to a temp directory
3. Start “Command Prompt” in Administrator mode (right click Run As Administrator) it in in Start Menu, All Programs, Accessories, just right click on it
4. Run the corresponding batch file for your Vista edition (if you extracted it to your desktop then it will be C:\Users\[enter user name]\Desktop\Premium
5. Allow TCP Port 3389 on Windows Firewall or any other firewall product if needed
6. Done
(just tested on Windows Vista Home Premium and it worked fine)
(dont forget to reboot)

well i have windows 7 and i cant get remote desktop mobile to work either

Having issues connecting to my media server via winmo RDP, i can connect to it via my laptops, any ideas? Its win 7 Pro with a few tweaks

Badwolve1 said:
Having issues connecting to my media server via winmo RDP, i can connect to it via my laptops, any ideas? Its win 7 Pro with a few tweaks
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What error message does the WinMo RDP client give you?

Jay321 said:
well i have windows 7 and i cant get remote desktop mobile to work either
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which edition?

MooGoo said:
What error message does the WinMo RDP client give you?
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Could not find server, which is wiers cause all my pcs are interconnected, i can control any one of them from any PC

I guess a good place to start would be to try pinging the computer you want to connect to. You can do that with dotFreds Task Manager. You are trying to connect on a LAN correct?

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I guess a good place to start would be to try pinging the computer you want to connect to. You can do that with dotFreds Task Manager. You are trying to connect on a LAN correct?
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I messed around with this earlier and couldnt get it to work. My pc is running windows 7 ultimate 64bit edition. I'm almost positive I had all the settings correct but I was trying to connect to my pc which was connected wirelessly to the router. Would this not work? If not how would one go abouts doing this without a lan connection? I'd love to get this baby working and am willing to be a guinea pig so that hopefully we can get a procedure together for all others

after trying remote desktop mobile to make it work i just give up!!!
try this go to www.logmein.com make a free account download logmein software to you laptop install the free softwares !
install cab to tp2
use the two files below.
1. Install XDA first, reboot,
2. install IEtoggle, open IEtoggle, switch IE to PIE,
3.start up IE and sign into logmein.
This worked for me. the only thing is not working is the keyboard
keyboard problems go here !! http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=444641 it might work !

dantegl36 said:
I messed around with this earlier and couldnt get it to work. My pc is running windows 7 ultimate 64bit edition. I'm almost positive I had all the settings correct but I was trying to connect to my pc which was connected wirelessly to the router. Would this not work? If not how would one go abouts doing this without a lan connection? I'd love to get this baby working and am willing to be a guinea pig so that hopefully we can get a procedure together for all others
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I routinely use the RDP client on my phone to connect to my desktop computer over wifi LAN. Although my computer is hardwired to the network.
Are you able to remote desktop to your pc with another computer?
Did you select the "Allow connections from computers running any version of Remote Desktop" option in the System Properties:Remote dialog?
Could there be some 3rd party firewall software you are running that might be blocking the RDP port?
Also, I've found that when having network issues especially involving wifi, often reseting your router to its default settings, and if necessary upgrading the firmware can help.

whats the best software to control my computer from my phone

as the title says:-o
i am looking for software that i can instal on my blackstone and control my computerscreen
i know there is remote desktop on blacksotne but i think i am to stupid cause i cant get it to work:-o
my os is windows 7 so it should support touch input from the touchscreen of the phone(i hope this could be used)
also copy/pasting/streaming would be a nice feature in the software
someone can help me out and tell me wich software you are using to control youre computer:-o

one of the vnc setups
install the vnc server on the pc
and the client on the pda

have you tried remote desktop that comes cooked in a lot or roms ?
i usually use that never had any really issues with it - good starting point before trying out vnc

does it have to be software based. Have you tried things like Logmein or other browser based solutions?
Ho'okani

Rudegar said:
one of the vnc setups
install the vnc server on the pc
and the client on the pda
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thanks i will take a look at it and see if i can set it up
imy300 said:
have you tried remote desktop that comes cooked in a lot or roms ?
i usually use that never had any really issues with it - good starting point before trying out vnc
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yep i have tried this option but i am to big of a noob to manage to set it up
i have tried to set it up but i never got a connection with my desktop
maybe this is because the network here is router behind modem

Hookani said:
does it have to be software based. Have you tried things like Logmein or other browser based solutions?
Ho'okani
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i have looked at logmein
and downlaoded but also never managed to get it work
i gues my router behind modem is stopping it from working
maybe one of you guys could help me out or tell if it is possible
the internet cable comes in in a modem
from the modem there goes a cable to the wireless router
and there goes a cable to a router
from the router the cable goes to my computer
also when i look up my ip adress and type it in in my webbrowser i gett in the router/modem(dont know wich one i enter)
i can see some poorts opend up on tcp and udp but when i try to enter a new one it never gets saved
i hav tried on other coputers to to manage to enter new poorts but all without succes
maybe it isnt possible as my fathers computer already uses remote desktop between his two computers
he has two computers
booth are on the other side from the house(one is buisness and one is his private computer) and the are linked to eachtother with remote desktop

i think the best sollution is a hamachi client on your desktop and your phone.
so you can use remote deskop with hamachi ip adresses an this throught firewalls & co.
ypo need to configure thw windows 7 pc via remote-desktop-settings to allow a non windows 7 system to acces. also you have to set up a password for every user of the system except the guest. also you have to enter in remotte deskttop-settings who should access an what rights he should have on the system (depends on the user profile)
if you need help google: hamachi remote deskttop windows 7
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