Hi,
I am a new Hermes owner and I am a networker.
So I am loking for anything related to network on Hermes to play with
unfortunately I am very confused with so many non-working applications for PPC. This is my first PPC device and I still couldn't go further then seeing my IP address on the device.
Of courser I can use it for any network application but I want to sniff, analyze, collect info...
So far, I've heard the following applications:
- VxSniffer
- PhatNet and Phatnet Pro
- Hitchhiker
- Commview wifi for PPC
- Windows Mobile Network Analyzer PowerToy for WM5
- Pocket Warrior
- CENiffer 3.0
- wififofum
- wifiknife
VxSniffer:
didn't work on my Hermes - don't know why but it says that it can't load driver.
it only worked once but then after a reset it gave the same error.
do you know the cause ?
PhatNet Pro:
didn't also work. but it never works. VxSniffer worked at least once.
Windows Mobile Network Analyzer PowerToy for WM5:
It works but really does nothing other than giving me obvious information.
Wifiknife and Wififofum aren't really doing anything sensible. Maybe just for fun.
I didn't try CommView, Pocket Warrior, CENiffer, Hitchhiker yet. But I really have no hope.
I've read the following article :
http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/index.php?blog=3&p=1226&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1
But it gave me no hope...
So I am still looking for software.
Which one really works on Hermes and really is useful ?
How do you use VxSniffer ? (I ask this because it was the only one that seemed like it would work and I see some people on this forum talking about it)
Does hitchiker or commview work ?
Please help me
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Well erm..... what is it you want to do?
Hitchhiker works if you want to connect to a network. Wififofum that you say does nothing sensible gives you info about networks in the area. That is what these sort of apps. are designed for. If you want more then you have to be more specific in stating your purpose.
At random I might suggest something like logmein as a network tool to control your PC, but I live in fear that you will say that's not what I'm looking for it does nothing sensible!!
You ask for apps that really are useful - and that's the point, useful for what?
More detail please?
Mike
ok; detail...
I am looking for network analyzing, packet capturing, sniffing tools.
also talking about wifi, wep key sniffing would be nice.
also, I am looking for an emule/edonkey client for PPC.
I have mobiphant but a better client (if exists) would be nice.
btw, what information do you get from wififofum (I mean information that standart builtin wlan tool does not supply) ?
logmein is a pc controlling software as far as I know from my readings throughout the forum. I need this kind of application but my limitation is that I can only use remote desktop protocol. (formy work pc)
now, you'll say "use the built in TSC" but it is not usefull with 320x240 screen size. So I tried Nyditot to achieve a higher screen resolution. Then it made my stylus unuseful (screen alignment problem)
you see, there are too many problems that I need to solve with my Hermes.
emule/edonkey, wep key snifers - get a life!!
Come on ...
Want to use your HERMES as a hacking tool?
Forget it ...
why not ?
hey guys, why not ?
I don't understand you.
there are these applications...
mobiphant is a working emule client. I used it and I even downloaded someyhing on the go.
I just couldn't find the right sniffing application.
commview and hitchhiker should be working. I just don't know how to install and use these.
if phatnet, commview, hitchhiker, vxsniffer, and other tools are written. then there is a demand. and also there is possibility.
so why not we don't use it ?
I don't understand why you are negative about this.
I think there is negativity because the combination of applications you seem interested in suggests that you want to drive up to someones house or perhaps detect the neighbours network, crack their wep key, and start downloading their files.
Or maybe you have just given the wrong impression??
Mike
I think it's wrong impression.
I am a network expert in a serious network and telco company.
I have high bandwidth internet access both at work and at home.
I don't need to crack my neighbour's wep key.
It's just that I love network tools and now that I have a new toy which can access wifi, I want to play with it.
I need network sniffer to troubleshoot my voip applications on the hermes.
I need the emule client to download ANYTHING from e2dk networks while I am connected with my hermes.
there is no evil idea. I just want to use tools that are available. I am not familiar with this pocket pc OS (I was a PalmOS user for 6 years) and I need help.
besides, if I need to hack my neighbour's network I could use my laptop with many available tools.
That seems fair comment to me.
Unfortunately not being an expert in this area, we'll have to wait for replies from those who are.
Mike
I've found another one: ministumbler
it's available at :
http://www.stumbler.net
and
http://www.wardriving.pl/new.php?nr=193
it seem like a new application however, it didn't work...
Maybe I am doing something wrong.
Should I enable wifi card or disable it before using such applications ?
as soon as I enable my wifi card it connects to my wifi network.
maybe this interrupts the sniffer application ???
I use WiFi Companion, so you can chack that out if it suites you
Here is the link: http://www.jiwire.com/socket-wifi-companion-product-review-1.htm
wifi companion seems like a nice application. should I install it to devşce or the storage card ?
any special instrucions ?
You can install it on storage card, it works fine from there..
No special instruction needed for network experts..
here is what i have on my Hermes.
btcrawler - bluetooth snarfing/scanning tool (not really that useful but fun none the less)
mtoken - serial/telnet/ssh client
pocket tty - ppc version of putty
sniffi - wireless scanning tool (btw ministumbler doesnt work on the hermes)
wififofum2 - wireless (not sure which one i like yet)
vxipconfig - release renew etc..
vxutil - ping/traceroute/finger/nslookup etc...
Others
CE Sniffer v3.1 - packet capture (like ethereal, i have used it on my old ppc havent installed it on hermes yet)
vxSNMP - read/write snmp (havent installed it)
vxSniffer - packet capture (havent installed it, but Cambridge software generally is very good)
WEP cracking - havent seen anything for ppc running windows. Generally you need linux on a IPAQ or similar.
thank you
I will try these...
However, I have a very generic problem:
when I install something related to wifi adapter, I generally can't run it.
all of the apps I tried say that :
"can't load driver"
"driver not loaded"
"driver not available"
I got these for most of the apps. Now I try the Socket Wi-fi Companion as suggested and I get a similar error:
"one or more components of WLAN tools were not found, or there are too few resources available to start the program. please verify proper installation of WLAN tools and try again"
I tried several times and the result is same.
My wifi is working. I am connected to my home wifi router now.
So what is the problem ?
Should I start these apps when my wifi is on or off ?
should I run them when I'm connected to a wlan or not ?
maybe there is a conflicting application I think but the only continuous running app is Wisbar Advanced.
What do you suggest ?
most of the wifi apps were written a while ago and dont contain drivers for the wifi in the hermes. A good example is ministumbler, it has not been updated for years.
You dont really need a wifi scanner to do more then tell you a network exists, if it is secured, what channel, power of the network, and if your lucky what brand of AP it is. sniffi and wififofum2 both do this and have gps tagging too.
There are plenty others out there though.
senergy,
I understand you but I can't run any of the apps that you (and others) report working.
I have a problem using these drivers on my hermes. what could it be ?
anyone using any of these sniffing applications successfully on Hermes ?
which vxsniffer version works on Hermes ?
vxSniffer.hpcPro_arm.CAB
vxSniffer.hpcPro_I486.CAB
vxSniffer.hpcPro_mips.CAB
vxSniffer.hpcPro_sh3.CAB
vxSniffer.hpcPro_sh4.CAB
vxSniffer.ppc3_arm.CAB
vxSniffer.ppc3_mips.CAB
vxSniffer.ppc3_sh3.CAB
I still can't get further than "cannot load driver"
I'd go for the PPC ARM cab
Mike
Related
From Imate Jas Jar (HTC) to Desktop PC windows 2000/XP via the internet...
These services offer solutions..
remotelyanywhere.com
http://www.remotelyanywhere.com/template.asp?page=home
PC Anywhere
http://www.symantec.com/home_homeoffice/products/features.jsp?pcid=pf&pvid=pca12
Pocket Mobile PC PTvnc
http://www.parystec.demon.co.uk/pt_vnc_WM5.htm
z2 Remote2PC
http://www.z2software.com/Remote2PC.htm
What I need..
- Best connection with bandwith issues
- Easy setup and management with IP issues ( dynamic IP etc)
- Best Visual view of Desktop PC on PPC
- Best Desktop PC command control, ie do all thinks I want on DeskPC
- Easy management thru routers or firewalls etc...
- I know nothing on this stuff so easy pease for me...
Cost not an issue, performance and freedom of control of Desktop PC is ??? Can any one comment. Which is the ROLLS ROYCE of Remote access from PPC to Destop PC or Laptops via internet ( not short distance bluetooth or WiFi.,,,,Internet long distance)
Thanks in Advance...
logmein.com - fantastic and free
Sir, thats the same as "remotelyanywhere"...
I having a play with it now, any ideas how to insall it on PPC ..
I downloaded an install file Setup.msi
How do I do this ??
Wow, you're right - had no idea.
Well that (logmein) options a no go, only Windows 2003 and earlier. NOT WM5 !!!!
Digs said:
Well that (logmein) options a no go, only Windows 2003 and earlier. NOT WM5 !!!!
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No idea what you're talking about there, I'm using it right now to hit my desktop to reply to your post, from my WM5 HTC Universal...
*Edit - added in-use screen shot, resized way down - actual image quality is fantastic.
i used logmein on my PDA2K and now my T-Mobile MDA works great on both 2003SE and WM5.0
i just wish i had a bigger screen......
Did you use it thru PIE on WM5, cause I used thru Net Front 3.3...
It asks you to download some cab when you first use it, I did this, restarted and then it asked me to download again, again etc...
So using PIE ( pocket internet explorer ) does it work thru that ???
VNC...
I'm using RealVNC to start a VNC service on the desktop... You can download a free VNC server software from here:
http://www.realvnc.com/
As for the client, I'm using one from Mochasoft:
http://www.mochasoft.dk/vncce.htm
Low bandwidth requirement and most importantly speedy...
Digs said:
Did you use it thru PIE on WM5, cause I used thru Net Front 3.3...
It asks you to download some cab when you first use it, I did this, restarted and then it asked me to download again, again etc...
So using PIE ( pocket internet explorer ) does it work thru that ???
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yes, must use PIE
Using TightVNC servic on the desktop (supports scaling) and .Net VNCviewer on the Exec. Good enough, fast enough, and free.
THE WINNER IS, HANDS DOWN...
z2 Remote2PC
Best Control, speed and visual controls, encryption, etc
For ease of use and "free is good" factor:
Logmein.com
- note:
When using logmein.com, PIE must be not be hacked. If changed from original version, it will not work (this was a month ago). Remote Desktop will connect but nothing will show up.
- tried with opera and also netfront, both didn't work for me.
opera would not even connect, and netfront will connect but won't show anything.
I concur with Net Front 3.3..
But z2 Remote PC, even after the Fuss of setting up an IP address at no-ip.com its all worth it.
I use PTvncWM5 to controll my home media pc.
It use verry low bandwidh on gprs
and looks great on Wifi
What do these offer beyond Terminal Services client? OK, TS logs you on in parallel on the server machine, but other than that? Seems pretty good on bandwidth and the age-old rule of "the less s/w you install, the less you'll screw up" applies :wink:
I got more toys and functions to play with via 2z remote2pc. Thats whyI chose this software.
Hi
I've managed to successfully map & connect to 'file shares' on the several computers that i have on my local homegroup...using the standard 'explorer' within Duttys excellent WM6 build.
However this is being done whilst my Tytn is physically connected via USB & Activesync to my computer.
It is possible to see the local network, browse & connect to share folders, as i am doing currently but via Wifi!? - Thus not needing the depandancy on my laptop & usb? - Basically see the network & browse it the same way as all my other computers do...?
Can it be done with what is installed explorer or do i need a special program? - if so, whats good & free?
Ciao
Al
Yes. It is possible. Have used total commander and the built-in explorer to browse my network shares.
Many thanks, i shall give it a go...
P.S. sorry for my typo "Browing" - meant Browsing of course ;-)
hi there, you can try this one - http://www.vmobilesoftware.com/NetworkBrowser.htm it is much much comfortable. not tested on WM6 yet on my side, perhaps you can test is, and tell us if it work correctly. I have no free time
PS: I think that Resco Eplorer should be suitable for you also - http://www.resco.net/pocketpc/explorer/indepth.asp
Hi Sinmae
I shall certainly give this prog a whirl...
In the meantime, it seems that the built in Explorer, once a drive is mapped, CAN re-connect via Wifi to it....... I've been using my Tytn as an MP3 play wirelessly... by listenning to my files on an external drive that is mapped as a share on my laptop, which in turn connects via wifi..... The HTC default earphones are to shabby either... & this is from someone who owns a set of Shures!!!
However it is a manual process to map... you cant' sniff out & browse shares that are already there on other network machines... you have to key them in & hope for the best. - Therefore the prog you suggest might be good.
Cheers
Al
Hi everybody,
trying to find a working app that is able to sniff tcp packets on my wlan (yes, only for learning purposes! for those who suspect otherwise...)
I was trying to install vxsniffer earlier - to no avail. tried both ppc arm cabs which come in the zip file.
It keeps telling me it can't load the driver (even after soft reset & switching off the device).
I came across cesniffer, but found no way to download it anywhere...
The other one I found was phatnet pro - which seems to be not developed any more by the developer...
Maybe, somebody can point me into a direction on where to obtain a working sniffer for my hermes running WM6?
It would be ideal, if it would be able to output into ethereal format, for later analysis.
You guys can also PM me, if you wish to give some advice..
Help would be highly appreciated,
regards,
trial
Hi,
I got vx sniffer working on WM5. I think I had to remove one or two installed apps, perhaps the antivirus to avoid conflicts.
Take a look at airscanner also.
Be aware that these sniffers will not be promiscuous as the ti wlan driver does not support promiscuous packet collection.
regards,
chris
hey chris,
thx for your quick reply! which version of vxsniffer did you use (and which cab)?
installed airscanner earlier - but it seems to me, that i need to buy their external network card also - so it seems to be impossible to use the tytns/hermes built in wifi - or am i misunderstanding something here?
regards,
trial
Hi guys, i'm trying WMWifiRouter by using linux, but it doesn't work good..I installed program on my ppc (HTC P3600) then turned on wifi (of my ppc) started WMwifirouter, and then in my pc i saw this network in mode Ad hoc..but i'm unable to use internet by using this software. Some helps???
write me to: [email protected]
Hi there!
I have the same problem too. WMWifiRouter seems to not work at all on Linux.
I use wicd network manager but, it has problems assigning the IP address to the PC.
Anybody knows how to solve this problem??
Any alternatives?
Windows Server 2003
It doesn't seem to play well with Windows Server 2003 either...same results:
it looks like it makes an adhoc connection, but no internet connectivity.
If your OS is not designed for adhoc connectivity (ie: a "home user" windows
system) I think there is a lot more to be done on the PC side to get this working.
I've tried everything from disabling other network interfaces to
altering routing to modifying metrics (all on the server) but still can't
get a hit...though strangely, I briefly did load a Google page (as I was
simultaneously disabling a NIC or something), but I can't be sure it wasn't
just in the IE cache...
I'm going to check out ICS Control because it's still free, and it has
a lot more open manipulation of parms...not geered to be hidden for the
"dumb" user.
I'd like to see the source made available, then we would be
able to contribute to it's further development, and it would not end up
like WMWifi
I think I'll go over here (below) and suggest that
( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=377047 )
A bump for future reference. WMWifiRouter works in linux. Some linux wifi card drivers just don't like the ad-hoc connection mode it uses. The solution is to change the wifi driver. For me, it was the move from madwifi to ath5k. For others, it may involve using ndiswrapper and a native windows driver instead of a native linux one. Now my Ubuntu Jaunty connects fine to WMWifiRouter.
Mint
apienk01 said:
it may involve using ndiswrapper and a native windows driver instead of a native linux one
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I'm using Mint on a HP Mini which I believe does use the ndiswrapper. That just will not connect to WMWIFIRouter.
Martin
I'm using Mint on a HP Mini which I believe does use the ndiswrapper. That just will not connect to WMWIFIRouter.
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Martin,
you "believe" or are sure? Ndiswrapper is not used by default because it involves downloading proprietary Windows drivers specific to your hardware. By default, an open source driver is installed. What is your wireless network card? Type 'lspci' in terminal to find out.
Hi everyone,
I am new here and the owner of a HTC Snap for about one month now. However, I was wondering if it is in any way possible to map network drives (linux and windows) from my home lan on my snap through WIFI?
I've been trying to google this, but couldn't find a definite answer on this issue.
Standard devices (non touch screen) lack the abiltity to browse a network. Total Commander will get you half way there, but instead of using the IP address use the NetBIOS. You will have to find an older version of TC, since the newest version has had the LAN connection removed for Smartphones.. Resco may still have it though
You can use Microsoft Live Mesh (the beta is open enrollment) goto www.mesh.com sign in then select add then at the bottom of the screen you will see a link that says something like "use mesh on your mobile phone" click that to get the .cab file, once installed onto your device you can connect to live mesh, which you can then set up to shared folders on your network.
Thnx for the reply. To bad that I can't set up any drive mapping and quite strange that Microsoft didn't implement such features while mobile phones have WIFI on them.
That live mesh seems like a handy solution though. However it looks to me like all the data passes through the internet, even when I'm at home. If this is the case then it wouldn't be a very feasable solution because it would take ages before I would have moved large files if my mobile phone operator is in between my data connection.
Blaatt said:
Thnx for the reply. To bad that I can't set up any drive mapping and quite strange that Microsoft didn't implement such features while mobile phones have WIFI on them.
That live mesh seems like a handy solution though. However it looks to me like all the data passes through the internet, even when I'm at home. If this is the case then it wouldn't be a very feasable solution because it would take ages before I would have moved large files if my mobile phone operator is in between my data connection.
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Yeah, that how it works (mesh over the internet) not the greatest solution but it will work. There are other options but most of them involve sending the data over the net.
Like I said, you can get it to work (drive mapping)