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Is it possible to browse my LAN from my XDAII using only my USB cradle? I'm using Resco Explorer. I tried this:
1. Select My Network root directory
2. Selected Map Drive... from the Advanced Toolbar
... to no avail.
Open up internet explorer. Put in the address bar the following \\"computer name or IP of computer" then click on the little go button and waa laa it will work. The go button doesn't say go, but in essence it is the same it is to the right of the address bar.
Mike
As far as I was aware it's not possible to browse network files from an XDA2 unless you use an SDIO wi-fi card, and sure enough I can't get Mikee's suggestion to work. If I type into IE's address bar '\\192.168.1.100' and click Go, that gets replaced with 'file//\\192.168.1.100\' (almost like it's trying to connect for me) but then immediately I get a 'Network path cannot be found' error.
Pity, cos it'd be great to be able to do this. Perhaps I'm doing something wrong, Mikee?
You can partially blame Microsoft for this with their "My network card connects to {work} or {the internet}..." paradigm.
It's one of the most irritating things about the Windows Mobile OS.
Let's suppose you have a Wireless Card or (in my XDAIIi's case) internal Wireless turned on. By default, WinMob2003(&SE) decides arbitarily that your network card connects to the Internet.
This is fine if you are using a Wireless AP hooked up to ADSL at home for your Home LAN as it will just connect via your AP and go straight through to the Internet. However, guess what you have to do to be able to connect to any local machines on your LAN? You guessed it, you have to go into the advanced connection setting and change the "My network card connects to..." to "Work"!! You will then be able to map a drive either using Resco Explorer or even the inbuilt explorer, of any machine that your PPC can "see". Don't forget that permissions etc will need to be setup first though so that you can login to said machine.
That's fine, however, guess what you WON'T be able to do while you have that setting at "Work"? You guessed it, you WON'T be able to connect to the Internet!
I'm afraid it's either one OR the other and NOT both together.
I went through all this wireless bit because it equally applies to when you are simply connected via the cradle using Activesync. In the "Pass-through" settings of AS, you'll find it set to "The Internet" by default and like this, you will not be able to access local machines on the LAN connected via your desktop or a switch/hub. If you change it to "Work", however, you will. Then of course, the same applies as to the wireless setup. With it at "Work" you won't have access to "The Internet" and vice-versa.
I can only guess that the PPC situation is like this because the WinMob2003(&SE) OS does NOT have a FULL network client built into it that behaves as a Windows Desktop PC would. So, basically, it's a cludge.
You can partially blame Microsoft for this with their "My network card connects to {work} or {the internet}..." paradigm.
It's one of the most irritating things about the Windows Mobile OS.
Let's suppose you have a Wireless Card or (in my XDAIIi's case) internal Wireless turned on. By default, WinMob2003(&SE) decides arbitarily that your network card connects to the Internet.
This is fine if you are using a Wireless AP hooked up to ADSL at home for your Home LAN as it will just connect via your AP and go straight through to the Internet. However, guess what you have to do to be able to connect to any local machines on your LAN? You guessed it, you have to go into the advanced connection setting and change the "My network card connects to..." to "Work"!! You will then be able to map a drive either using Resco Explorer or even the inbuilt explorer, of any machine that your PPC can "see". Don't forget that permissions etc will need to be setup first though so that you can login to said machine.
That's fine, however, guess what you WON'T be able to do while you have that setting at "Work"? You guessed it, you WON'T be able to connect to the Internet!
I'm afraid it's either one OR the other and NOT both together.
I went through all this wireless bit because it equally applies to when you are simply connected via the cradle using Activesync. In the "Pass-through" settings of AS, you'll find it set to "The Internet" by default and like this, you will not be able to access local machines on the LAN connected via your desktop or a switch/hub. If you change it to "Work", however, you will. Then of course, the same applies as to the wireless setup. With it at "Work" you won't have access to "The Internet" and vice-versa.
I can only guess that the PPC situation is like this because the WinMob2003(&SE) OS does NOT have a FULL network client built into it that behaves as a Windows Desktop PC would. So, basically, it's a cludge.
strange , im using the XDA2s and my wifi settings are set to see internet , but in file explore or rosco file explorer they both see my lan fine in file exlore all i doo is click on the netfolder ickon at the bottom and then enter \\ (then the computer name) eg \\bedroompc this works both for my work network and home
henny
Firstly, my apologies for the double post above. I only pushed the submit button once, honest!
I was actually describing the "standard" way that all of O2's XDA's get setup when they are first turned on from new and that means that usually, under "Connections", "Select Networks" then "Network Management", you will normally see "My ISP" in the top box for progs that automatically connect to the Internet and "My Work Network" in the lower box for progs that automatically connect to a private network and this is where the problem lays.
In hindsight, I wasn't particularly helpful to Tetragrammaton since I didn't provide the actual solution he was looking for simply because I got too wrapped up in bashing the PPC's network client (or lack of a full one anyway...)
The solution is of course to simply make the bottom box equal to the top box (i.e. "My ISP") and immediately this will change the behaviour to that as you so correctly described (being able to connect to the Internet and to a Local LAN machine simultaneously) and will obviate the need to swap the destination of the Network Card settings themselves (which only gives one way connectivity with Wireless anyway).
I'm guessing that your machine is set this way Henny? Which of course will work as you describe.
The only caveat to doing this is that you disable the O2 WAP settings (which are normally configured under the "My Work Network" part) but whether this is a great loss is a moot point. In any case, the lower box in "Network Management" can always be switched back temporarily should you need the WAP settings back.
I hope this has now helped Tetragrammaton to get up and running...
I should hastely add that my offered solution in the last post still won't allow you to browse LAN machines while connected in the cradle (I've just tried it) so if anyone knows a way to do this, I would be interested...
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I should hastely add that my offered solution in the last post still won't allow you to browse LAN machines while connected in the cradle (I've just tried it) so if anyone knows a way to do this, I would be interested...
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I would be too.. anyways, thanks a lot y'all for the info.
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I should hastely add that my offered solution in the last post still won't allow you to browse LAN machines while connected in the cradle (I've just tried it) so if anyone knows a way to do this, I would be interested...
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I haven't been able to try your suggestion yet, but just so we're clear, you're talking about browsing the files on LAN machines while the XDA2 (not 2i or 2s) is connected via ActiveSync? I think that's what tetragrammaton was asking in the original post. I have a suspicion that this post has been taken over with discussions about browsing the LAN using a wi-fi connection, not ActiveSync... :roll: Of course the XDA2 (which tetragrammaton mentions) doesn't have wi-fi
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I haven't been able to try your suggestion yet, but just so we're clear, you're talking about browsing the files on LAN machines while the XDA2 (not 2i or 2s) is connected via ActiveSync? I think that's what tetragrammaton was asking in the original post. I have a suspicion that this post has been taken over with discussions about browsing the LAN using a wi-fi connection, not ActiveSync... :roll: Of course the XDA2 (which tetragrammaton mentions) doesn't have wi-fi
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True and you are absolutely right on all counts. Browsing LAN machines via activesync using an XDAII in a USB cradle.
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SiliconS said:
CPNowell said:
I should hastely add that my offered solution in the last post still won't allow you to browse LAN machines while connected in the cradle (I've just tried it) so if anyone knows a way to do this, I would be interested...
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I haven't been able to try your suggestion yet, but just so we're clear, you're talking about browsing the files on LAN machines while the XDA2 (not 2i or 2s) is connected via ActiveSync? I think that's what tetragrammaton was asking in the original post. I have a suspicion that this post has been taken over with discussions about browsing the LAN using a wi-fi connection, not ActiveSync... :roll: Of course the XDA2 (which tetragrammaton mentions) doesn't have wi-fi
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True and you are absolutely right on all counts. Browsing LAN machines via activesync using an XDAII in a USB cradle.
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In that case I'm confused . Sorry. If it doesn't work in the cradle, but you're not talking about doing it through a wi-fi connection, what does your solution actually do? Apologies if I'm being a bit thick here - I'm ill with the 'flu.
I'm nervous about starting to mess about with the connections settings on my XDA2 just so that I can browse files on the network - every time I do this I end up screwing them up. I don't understand them at all and usually a hard reset with the auto-config is the only way to get it all working again. :roll:
I'll do a synopsis of this thread so far this evening. Bit tied up at work at the moment. Hope that's ok...
This has been covered many many times. It is impossible as currently set up. The best way to achieve this is to buy Pocket LAN, it works perfectly
I've had a quick look at that but that would be for just Wireless LAN connectivity, right? ...and as has already been pointed out to me (correctly), the original question was not about wireless.
NO!!!! This works through active sync with the xda in the cradle, worked on xda2 and 2i for me. Actually it is a bit of a waste of money as i never use it, though it seemed agreat idea at the time.
barney12345 said:
NO!!!! This works through active sync with the xda in the cradle, worked on xda2 and 2i for me. Actually it is a bit of a waste of money as i never use it, though it seemed agreat idea at the time.
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I've googled "Pocket LAN" and came up with a bunch of hits though none of them seem to be the right hit. If Pocket LAN seems to do the trick of accessing a network via the USB cradle only, could you post the link to Pocket LAN? Thanks!
http://www.pocketlance.com/register/index.shtml it says for ce or 2002 but works on 2003 and 2003se.
Hope this helps
You can find it (PocketLAN) here...
http://www.pocketgear.com/software_detail.asp?id=2825
Contrary to what Barney found, it didn't work at all for my XDAIIi in the cradle. The usual "network path not found" was all it could muster...
Even wirelessly I found it cumbersome and a bit iffy at connecting to machines at times. It does no more than Resco Explorers built-in network stuff. It also seeks to start messing with the device name etc and generally "muscle-in" and take over... Resco Exp does it without fuss, quietly and efficiently. More importantly, it works everytime but I'm afraid even it can't manage to connect to LAN machines through the cradle and AS.
Sorry about no (promised) post last night. Just didn't get the time. I'll try again for later today.
http://www.pocketlance.com/ try this link as well you can get a trial download
Hi
I want to use my XDA2i to connect my laptop to the net....
Any ideas how to achieve this, thinking bluetooth laptop to XDA then use GPRS on XDA to connect.
Thanks
Hi,
Look overhere ftp://xdaupload:[email protected]/USB_modem/ for modem driver & documentation.
Cheers, M
Hi
Thanks for the reply, however, I want to connect my laptop through bluetooth to my XDA and use the GPRS on my XDA to connect to the net.
I need to achieve this without using a USB connection, if I understand correctly the link you supplied tells me how to connect USB modem etc.
Maybe I'm completely misunderstanding. It's all so simple using a Nokia 6230i, plug and play virtually!! (until my company deactivated data calls:-()
Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks
Set the Connection Type to Bluetooth in the Wireless Modem program, then push the start button & make the BT connection to your laptop. Hope it works this way or experiment a little with it pls. I use the USB connection & don't have BT on my PC, so can't try the settings myself.
Regards, M
As I assume that you're using Windows vom Micro$oft, just Pair the two devices (not using 'Wireless Modem').
It will automatically install a Bluetooth-Modem
David
Hi
What type of connection do I need, I can only find a network access connection to my laptop, thats all that is available.
I am using a HP laptop with XP home, its a new one so would imagine everything is in order.
seek and you shall find
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=24383
Thanks for the replies people...
Although I have to admit I'm struggling still....given up on the bluetooth connection and reverted back to USB cable but still I can't connect.
Here's the steps I have used:
Unticked Active Sync allowing USB connections.
Restarted laptop, connected USB cable to XDA and selected Wireless Modem, used the drop down to select USB and selected Start.....
the documentation etlls me that my laptop will go into a plug and play routine of allowing me to install it as a modem but this does not happen.
And yes, I have admin rights on the laptop.
Do I have to do anything with connections/modems because I haven't.
Am I being thick? Not sure but it's driving me to distraction...
start the modem program on your XDA (Start-Programs) and conenct it, windows will ask for a driver. install the driver from ftp. then create a new modem connection in windows. here (in germany) the number windows must call is *99# (for GPRS/UMTS)
Thank you for your patience...
The XDA installed as stated using driver on FTP, great.
Run up IE, tools, options, connections and added a dial up connection called XDA USB Link.(com8)
Settings of which are:
user name2web
passwordassword
untick automatically detect settings
untick configuration script
untick proxy server
Not sure where I'm going wrong but when I dial it errors with...No dial tone detected.
To recap I am dialing with GPRS connected on XDA and the WModem program connected through USB started
Am I missing something?
Can anyone help??????
Please?????
Try running usbmodemdialer instead of DUN by IE, it's in the package on the ftp.
Cheers, M
Hi
OK, I am now using the HTC USB dialer but I'm receiving an error 734 code, which is a PPP issue.
To recap, I am starting Wmodem, connecting to laptop (GPRS off) using a USB cable. Starting HTC USB Modem with APN as Internet & modem as HTC USB modem.
On XDA I get a connection light, then send and receive lights flash before the lot dissapear. The laptop goes through Connecting/verifying/registering then Remote access error 734.
I'm nearly there...
Please excuse my ignorance on this subject :roll:
Thanks
Yeah seems like it again :--(
Upload is running to ftp://xda:[email protected]/Uploads/
Regards, M
Hi
Ive done everything as suggested but I'm getting a 680 error, this I believe is a "no dial tone" error.
Please, where am I going wrong?
Thanks
Gary
Frankly I haven't got the slightest idea what's going wrong. It works like a charm with my magician & Windows XP Sp2.
M
Hm how could the line be busy? are you phoning the same time? (always when you try to connect? sorry silly question.)
Are you sure your provider give you GPRS Access? (i don't know any who don't )
did you a google search on this error?
Hi
Yes, I googled it and it appears to be "No dial tone" not line busy....I'm not in a call when attempting to connect.
I've tried every possible combination of settings......usernames and passwords etc....
There isn't any issues with my laptop and updates etc. I am sys admin by day!!! This is just beating the hell out of me. Incidentally my laptop is a HP pavillion zd8369ea, a new one!!! Alpine is running radio 1.04.
Yes, data calls are enabled on my SIM, I can connect perfectly to IE on XDA and mail etc.
Taken down all firewalls etc and nothing....
Help
Thanks
Gary
Follow the instructions here:
http://www.seeo2.com/html/HowToUse/XdaII/How to setup Wireless Modem for Bluetooth.htm
At part 5. the line you need is:
AT+CGDCONT=1,"IP","mobile.o2.co.uk","",0,0
At point 11. you don't need a user name or password.
hows the conection done? hopefully usb?
what setting / software are needed on the lappy and tytn?
if at all it can be done?
You can do it through USB, Bluetooth or IrDA.
These instructions are for universal, but the same applies for TyTN:
BlueTooth
IrDA
USB
maybe we should put this on the wiki?
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maybe we should put this on the wiki?
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Wiki updated, I've put it on FAQs:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_FAQs
DUN
Is there a way to use DUN now that it's been disabled because of Internet Sharing?
New Tyten and Vista
Ok, I've been through the 3 ways to connec as a modem, I actually manged to connect ages ago with XP.
I now have a new Tyten, well new for the states but probably old in the rest of the world.
Anyway the New Tyten has a thing called Internet Sharing instead of wireless modem
None of the old settings are there anymore.
It also has a new way to connect via Blue Tooth Pan.
I've tried the Pan way but I had no luck, the connection seemed to work but I couldn't get on the internet.
I then tried USB, I couldn't get Vista to recognise the Tyten, even when I turned off the active synch, anybody got any ideas????
with Vista and WM6 internet sharing I think its easier than DUN. there is a whole how to in the help program on your hermesjust open the help app and search for internet sharing. just make sure your phone and laptop are connected via bluetooth and then open the internet sharing app and click connect make sure its set to bluetooth PAN. on my laptop I have a little bluetooth icon when its on so I right click that and then connect via persoanl network and then a little pop up pops up and I click on the connect bottun and it connects in about 15 seconds pretty easy! I know for USB you have to open the WMDC connection settings and uncheck allow usb connections.
Thanks
Cheers for that, I'll give it a go, although to be honest I've been trying it all afternoon..
I get the connection but no Internet connection..
Help Still needed
Ok, the plot thickens, I found drivers on the HTC Europe site to connect your Hermes to Vista.
I uninstalled all of the previous active synch hardware and also thre previous modem
When I plug the phone in it doesn't open the new downloads.
Any ideas, I'm running Windows 5.1, is there an official Windows 6 I can update to?
Some help with Macbook
So the instructions are great but how does it work on an Apple Macbook? I've searched through the forum many times without any luck. Any ideas on how to connect via USB and/or bluetooth?
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So the instructions are great but how does it work on an Apple Macbook? I've searched through the forum many times without any luck. Any ideas on how to connect via USB and/or bluetooth?
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Search, then you'll find.
It is ok for me using 10.4.10 with USB via MissingSync.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=302977&highlight=MissingSync
this may help...
For anyone having trouble getting their laptop to recognize the 8525 as a modem this may be the solution.
http://www.terranettech.net/DisplayPg.aspx?codeid=1128
my phone was working fine but when I tried to set my wife's up to tether it wouldn't show new hardware found when plugged in and when I tried to manually install the driver the process bix just kinda stalled out and wouldn't go forward with the driver even though I had browsed to the right one. I had to uninstall the driver which was viewing the phone as a serial device. if you're having this trouble then try following te directions in the link above. it worked for me...
I recently successful upgrade my GENE to WM 6.1 because i had many problems.
One of my problems is how to connect my GENE to my PC thru Bluetooth connection, my PC has WIFI connected to router at home.
i searched forums too much for accurate steps to do so, and i think it is a good idea to help all ppl here if i got a clear procedure to do so here.
Thanks in Advance.
I have no time to explain step-by-step here, but the first thing you have to do is make activesync works with bluetooth. When you are done, you could open PIE or opera and access the internet.
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the first thing you have to do is make activesync works with bluetooth. When you are done, you could open PIE or opera and access the internet.
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Any how, i appreciate your reply.
i'll try to google about this solution.
thanks a ton
Its very easy. I do it all the time.
Make sure BT is on on both PC and phone.
open activesync on phone and right softkey-> connect via bluetooth.
if they aren't paired you'll get the standard pairing screen etc.
now, when pairing make sure activesync is open on the desktop. And make sure activesync-> connection settings on the PC has 'allow connection to one of the following set to the correct COM port for BT (mine is COM12) Ideally, after doing this right, you should have 'activesync' appear as one of the services that your desktop can provide via BT.
Accept and repeat the first step
Note: If you get a dialog asking if serial connection should be made then accept it. (will come on PC)
once connected go to activesync on the PC. In options, select 'The internet' as the network the PC is connected to.
Just play around with the basic settings.
One thing to note is that you might have to configure the COM port on activesync in the desktop.
I set the COM ports up once long ago (purely by trying every combo there was) and forgot exactly how. I think it'll vary from PC to PC. However, I've been re-pairing a lot over and over again cause I've been trying out a lot of different ROMs... And I've not needed to change the COM port settings even once.
Basically, all you need is to connect to activesync via BT and you'll be able to use you's PC's connection on the phone.
This is for XP btw. Vista is mostly similar. I think its more straightforward though... most of the things are done automatically.
Hope it helped
Ya, follow charge1313's advice and if you dont get internet access even after this, download the attached registry file and double click it on your PC and reboot. This will enable the functionality, sometimes it gets disabled specially if you install Windows Vista Service Pack 2.
Have Fun!
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Ya, follow charge1313's advice and if you dont get internet access even after this, download the attached registry file and double click it on your PC and reboot. This will enable the functionality, sometimes it gets disabled specially if you install Windows Vista Service Pack 2.
Have Fun!
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WAY OFF TOPIC
@krazy:
When did SP2 get released ? Whats the size?
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WAY OFF TOPIC
@krazy:
When did SP2 get released ? Whats the size?
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SP2 was released on 26 May to public. To get it, go here :
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/dd262148.aspx
Size depends on the download you choose, for 32bit machines its 348 MB in size.
Installing it freshened up my 1 year old Vista installation a bit, it became a little speedier. To tell you about the changes, the only thing i have noticed myself is the change of bluetooth stack to version 2.1 of bluetooth standard. The whole interface of bluetooth, the dialog boxes etc are also changed to a bit leaner looking ones
Both ways working .............
hmmmmmmmmmmmm Krazy/charge world
Hello All,
Does anyone know of a way for me to get internet/network access on my phone through usb to my pc?
This is possible on windows mobile with active sync. I want to use it like this in a couple of weeks when I go to a LAN party. I want to use an IRC chat program on my phone but won't have access to WIFI.
Whenever I search for this all I find is USB tethering to give my pc access to the phones data connection. I want it the other way around.
It's driving me nuts that I can't find such a simple feature that's been around for so long with windows mobile.
when you connect usb cable Tattoo ask you what to do, you need to choose third option: "Mobile network sharing". If you earlier set default action, go in settings>Conect to PC - here you check option "Ask me"....
all done...
That's the opposite way around. That to use the phone as a modem for the pc.
I want to use the PC's internet connection to browse on the phone.
Also don't get that option with custom froyo rom.
I could also use bluetooth PAN if could work out how to get that working.
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Does anyone know of a way for me to get internet/network access on my phone through usb to my pc?
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this question I understand opposite, sorry...
Same question I asked earlier but get no answer. But there is way using Wifi, if you have wifi on you PC or Laptop. I am using Connectify running on my laptop but this s/w need Windows 7 os.
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when you connect usb cable Tattoo ask you what to do, you need to choose third option: "Mobile network sharing". If you earlier set default action, go in settings>Conect to PC - here you check option "Ask me"....
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What if tattoo no more asking me which type of usb connection to use even if under the options "always ask for the connection" is flagged?
Thank you if you can help me...