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Cingular 8525 Scroll Wheel Mystery

Hi all,
Long time lurker, first time poster. I have enjoyed my 8125 and when I upgraded to the 8525, I ritualistically came here for all the answers. However, there is one issue that I have experienced that is not echoed by anyone else.
I have ROM version 1.34.502.1 and have the following apps installed:
Eten Dialer
Phonealarm
PQzII
TomTom 6 Navigator
TCPMP
Google Maps
Live Search
The problem is that when I freshly boot the phone and place a call, I can manipulate the in-call volume via the scroll wheel. Up, down, no problem. However, when I exit out of the dialer screen and return to it a few hour later, I find that I can no longer turn the in-call volume down via the scroll wheel--only up works.
If anyone can shed some light on this matter, I sure would appreciate it.
Thank you!

Anyone have any insights into this matter?

Fringo said:
Anyone have any insights into this matter?
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Not much help, but just an observation. The behaviour shown by your scroll volume is certainly not normal. I tested this out on mine. What I did notice was that there is some lag in the response of the scroll volume - so long in fact that it can appear to be non-responsive. It seems the device "remembers" the number of clicks up and keeps trying to raise the volume even though its at maximum. So even if I then scroll down it can take a few seconds for it to complete trying to raise the volume before it begins trying to respond to my down scroll. In fact this behaviour can make it appear as if when scrolling down it actually is raising the volume - but I think this is only due to laggy behaviour in my case?
Mike

I found that the E-Ten dialer disabled my scroll wheel short-cut to call history and quick dial. When I removed it these functions came back. Shame, I like the big buttons.
Mike

Thank you guys for your responses. It wasn't a huge annoyance for me. I just don't like it when functionality just evaporates away from my phone inexplicably. Hopefully, it can be resolved somehow? I will look for further responses.
Thank you all in advance.

It's the PQzII that disable the in-call volume adjustment. But my version is: "down" -> turn in-call volume down, "up" -> switch to today.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=300248

PQz version up
Hi all,
I uploaded new PQzII.exe for Hermes.
http://www.nicque.com/pqz/PQzII.htm
2007-04-21 0.0.7-4 [Bug fix] PQzII_20070421_0007-4_Hermes.zip
*) Jog wheel (Volume Down) bug fix while calling.
Please try it and let me know if you find any trouble.
cheers,
tom
*)Edit
if you use "0x76" as any function. It has been changed to "0xAA".
There are some Hermes devices as like DoCoMo hTcZ/Softbank X01HT have "MOJI" button.
The button outputs "0x76" but it could be a cause of Jog wheel problem while calling.
as for me, I used 0x76 key code for IME on/off. and changed to "0xAA".
if you don't use 0x76 you don't need to care about this.
cheers,
tom

how to turn off thumbwheel beeps?

Hi - on my XV 6800, when I turn the thumbwheel past the "max" setting, such as for the volume, the device beeps, even if I have the volume control set to mute. How can I turn "off" those beeps"? I don't see a setting in Sounds and
Notifications for it. I already have unchecked "Events" in Sounds and Notifications but that has not made any difference.
Thanks,
Tim

I don't believe there is an easy way to accomplish this but maybe someone else knows something I don't.

I mine I can just turn off hardware buttons on the enable sounds part of notifications. Not sure if that is what you wanted to do. Chad

chadman said:
I mine I can just turn off hardware buttons on the enable sounds part of notifications. Not sure if that is what you wanted to do. Chad
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Hmm... I already have that choice un-checked, but I still get the beeps when I use the thumbwheel. Any other suggestions?
Thanks,
Tim

Phone stuck on 'silent', touchscreen broke...

Hi all! My buddy has a Sprint Mogul, and his clumsy ass has dropped it one too many times! Anyhow, the display works but the screen is cracked and the touchscreen does not respond. The phone was set to 'silent' before the touchscreen crapped out, but since he cant touch on the volume to change it, its stuck on silent now! Is there anyother way the ringer can be activated, at least until he can get his hands on a new one?
Thanks!

Download Pocket Controller Pro.

rayrayz98 said:
Hi all! My buddy has a Sprint Mogul, and his clumsy ass has dropped it one too many times! Anyhow, the display works but the screen is cracked and the touchscreen does not respond. The phone was set to 'silent' before the touchscreen crapped out, but since he cant touch on the volume to change it, its stuck on silent now! Is there anyother way the ringer can be activated, at least until he can get his hands on a new one?
Thanks!
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I saw this post and got curious, so being ocd, i had to try and find an answer. hehehe
If the phone volume is turned of "Silent", go to "Comm Manager", just hit the button on the side of your phone. Use the "D Pad" to highlight the speaker icon and push down on the D pad= enter. It's now no longer on silent.
Now if you want to change the volume of the ringer without using the touch screen.
If you have a registry editor go to
HKCU\ControlPanel\SoundCategories\Ring\InitVol
Changing the setting to anything from 1 to 5 will turn up the volume of the ringer.
I searched in the Windows directory for an app that would turn up the ringer volume, couldn't find anything, so i did a search in the registery for "vol" and came up with a list of things. This seemed like the most likely one to try, works good.
You can get there with a little work only using the buttons. And bob's your uncle
Rob

rp_63 said:
I saw this post and got curious, so being ocd, i had to try and find an answer. hehehe
If the phone volume is turned of "Silent", go to "Comm Manager", just hit the button on the side of your phone. Use the "D Pad" to highlight the speaker icon and push down on the D pad= enter. It's now no longer on silent.
Now if you want to change the volume of the ringer without using the touch screen.
If you have a registry editor go to
HKCU\ControlPanel\SoundCategories\Ring\InitVol
Changing the setting to anything from 1 to 5 will turn up the volume of the ringer.
I searched in the Windows directory for an app that would turn up the ringer volume, couldn't find anything, so i did a search in the registery for "vol" and came up with a list of things. This seemed like the most likely one to try, works good.
You can get there with a little work only using the buttons. And bob's your uncle
Rob
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Thanks Uncle bob! Much appreciated!

No problem, glad to help
Rob

volume key overrides keylock

I'm using an out the box Orange Touch HD (rom - 1.19.61.1 WWE)
I have found that the volume key still works even when the keylock is active.
I have used HDTweak already for other things and couldn't see anything relating to this. also searched forum to no avail (maybe not well enough )
Does anyone know of a way to fix this as it clearly seems to be an oversight.
Thanks in advance.

whiteroom77 said:
I'm using an out the box Orange Touch HD (rom - 1.19.61.1 WWE)
I have found that the volume key still works even when the keylock is active.
I have used HDTweak already for other things and couldn't see anything relating to this. also searched forum to no avail (maybe not well enough )
Does anyone know of a way to fix this as it clearly seems to be an oversight.
Thanks in advance.
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At a guess, i think its meant to be like that so you can adjust the volume if you are using it as a music player without having to unlock the phone. Does it affect you when you use the phone? (sorry i don't know how to help but I just thought I'd add my opinion)

thanks for the reply. i understand what you are suggesting but if i press the volume key then by default it adjusts the ringer volume and not the system volume. This is a problem as when its in a pocket i have already had more than one situation where I have gone to get the phone out and without realising, turned the ringer to silent.

I have a related difficulty... Hope you don't mind me adding to this thread rather than setting up a new one...
If my phone (Touch HD on ROM 1.56.405.1) is PIN-locked and I receive a call, I'm unable to change the in-call volume without telling the caller to wait while I unlock the phone and alter the volume... Is there any way of allowing the volume keys to work in this situation without having to unlock? I've search high and low for an answer or some suitable app to handle this.
Thanks.
Sorry - just done another search in these forums and have seen some similar questions and responses... I'll take a look there.

whiteroom77 said:
thanks for the reply. i understand what you are suggesting but if i press the volume key then by default it adjusts the ringer volume and not the system volume. This is a problem as when its in a pocket i have already had more than one situation where I have gone to get the phone out and without realising, turned the ringer to silent.
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Hi,
I tried using the volume keys when the device was locked, you can indeed adjust the ringer volume whilst the device is locked, although if you try doing this after you switch the screen off by pressing the top power button, pressing the volume keys has no effect then.
Providing the screen is off, you shouldn't have any problems switching your phone to silent unintentionally .
Just thought I mention this.

it's a known problem that regards standard windows mobile locking system. Only solution is using another locking program (s2u2, pocketscreen, touch lock pro, lockmelite and so on). There are on this forum aplenty.
regarding to the other problem with PIN and incall volume i am not really sure but again iirc it's a winmo default locking "feature".

strange...
When I use the keylock (long press endcall-button), my volume keys won't work.. even when the screen is on.
This has been on my stock rom (1.14 NLD), new stock rom and on Dutty's 3.3 XT...
Grtz,
Degake

call answer problem

Hi, when someone calling to me two soft buttons are working so it can accidentaly answer or drop the call, slider is working as well how can I switch them off / htc hd ROM 1.19.61.1 WWE Orange radio 1.09.25.14
thanks

Moved out of dev
Not sure you can switch the pick and hang up off, would also not see the point.

can't see the point?
Not sure you can switch the pick and hang up off, would also not see the point.
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Are you kidding me? You have a slider that avoids accidential answers and hang-ups, and you have two buttons that youre bound to press when getting the phone out of the pocket. How can you not see this point? It's like having a locked door right next to a huge open window, with freshly baked cookies on the table inside, and not understanding that this could be a security issue.

kentpaulsen said:
Are you kidding me? You have a slider that avoids accidential answers and hang-ups, and you have two buttons that youre bound to press when getting the phone out of the pocket. How can you not see this point? It's like having a locked door right next to a huge open window, with freshly baked cookies on the table inside, and not understanding that this could be a security issue.
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Valid point,
Guess I never had that problem and also never had the problem of wanting to turn the slider off as I use the buttons (hence I don't see the point of turning them off).

HDuser said:
Valid point,
Guess I never had that problem and also never had the problem of wanting to turn the slider off as I use the buttons (hence I don't see the point of turning them off).
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I'm with HDuser on this one. I only use the buttons so have phone locked so I can't accidentally answer phone whilst in pocket.

Thanks guys but my HD even if is locked still can answer slider and two soft buttons - meaby this couse by one of programs i've installed :gyrator, touch response, kaiser sim fix, htc rodium menu..., but it not function in any of it so i don't know. I want only slider.

wrong understood
guys you wrong understood me I do not want slider off - just soft buttons - slider is fine - if any new ideas - thanks.

You could change the button action to a double tap in aebplus so you are less likely to activate them.
Sully

hungabunga said:
You could change the button action to a double tap in aebplus so you are less likely to activate them.
Sully
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hi what aebplus is? where can I find it?
thanks sully

aebplus lets you change the actions of the buttons on WM devices. Website here http://ae.inc.ru/aebplus.php
I used it to change the volume buttons to up and down buttons.
It is free to try but well worth the money.
Sully