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Cingular 8525 Scroll Wheel Mystery

Hi all,
Long time lurker, first time poster. I have enjoyed my 8125 and when I upgraded to the 8525, I ritualistically came here for all the answers. However, there is one issue that I have experienced that is not echoed by anyone else.
I have ROM version 1.34.502.1 and have the following apps installed:
Eten Dialer
Phonealarm
PQzII
TomTom 6 Navigator
TCPMP
Google Maps
Live Search
The problem is that when I freshly boot the phone and place a call, I can manipulate the in-call volume via the scroll wheel. Up, down, no problem. However, when I exit out of the dialer screen and return to it a few hour later, I find that I can no longer turn the in-call volume down via the scroll wheel--only up works.
If anyone can shed some light on this matter, I sure would appreciate it.
Thank you!

Anyone have any insights into this matter?

Fringo said:
Anyone have any insights into this matter?
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Not much help, but just an observation. The behaviour shown by your scroll volume is certainly not normal. I tested this out on mine. What I did notice was that there is some lag in the response of the scroll volume - so long in fact that it can appear to be non-responsive. It seems the device "remembers" the number of clicks up and keeps trying to raise the volume even though its at maximum. So even if I then scroll down it can take a few seconds for it to complete trying to raise the volume before it begins trying to respond to my down scroll. In fact this behaviour can make it appear as if when scrolling down it actually is raising the volume - but I think this is only due to laggy behaviour in my case?
Mike

I found that the E-Ten dialer disabled my scroll wheel short-cut to call history and quick dial. When I removed it these functions came back. Shame, I like the big buttons.
Mike

Thank you guys for your responses. It wasn't a huge annoyance for me. I just don't like it when functionality just evaporates away from my phone inexplicably. Hopefully, it can be resolved somehow? I will look for further responses.
Thank you all in advance.

It's the PQzII that disable the in-call volume adjustment. But my version is: "down" -> turn in-call volume down, "up" -> switch to today.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=300248

PQz version up
Hi all,
I uploaded new PQzII.exe for Hermes.
http://www.nicque.com/pqz/PQzII.htm
2007-04-21 0.0.7-4 [Bug fix] PQzII_20070421_0007-4_Hermes.zip
*) Jog wheel (Volume Down) bug fix while calling.
Please try it and let me know if you find any trouble.
cheers,
tom
*)Edit
if you use "0x76" as any function. It has been changed to "0xAA".
There are some Hermes devices as like DoCoMo hTcZ/Softbank X01HT have "MOJI" button.
The button outputs "0x76" but it could be a cause of Jog wheel problem while calling.
as for me, I used 0x76 key code for IME on/off. and changed to "0xAA".
if you don't use 0x76 you don't need to care about this.
cheers,
tom

Volume (phone and rings) decreas to ZERO by itself.

Hi, I've a qtek 9090 with helmi WM6.1
the volume (phone and rinds) decrease from normal to ZERO by itself and for some minutes i can't increase it, because it decrease again.
How can i exclude the button of the volume or use a program that control the volume.
Thanks in advance
Paolo

Your volume slider switch may be stuck.Pls find the aero mark in the attachment.

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Your volume slider switch may be stuck.Pls find the aero mark in the attachment.
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Thanks,
I've opened my qtek and i have moved up and down the slider switch and goes well.
But sometimes (1 every hour...) the volume decrease to zero by itself again...
How can I exclude the volume slider switch, and use only a new program to set the volume of the phone and of the rings?
thanks
Paolo

Rather software problem. If you use some profile managers - check your settings. You may try to do hard reset and then check.

i have hinstall the rom of sun dream but it's quite the same,
there isn't a program that excude the colume swith and do the same thinks by software?
thanks
Paolo

noone can help me please?

it seems that this is hardware button problem and not woftware one, do the only logical way is to disonnect the volume slider button ...

I do have the same problem, but until now I thought that this is a HW problem...
I also have a problem with the volume at the phone. Sometimes the volume is OK, but sometimes I can't hear anything until I'll push the screen gently/hardly.
The SW-volume is still at middle for both (phone and device).
Open and cleaning didn't fix the problem...
Greetz Rossi

xplode said:
it seems that this is hardware button problem and not woftware one, do the only logical way is to disonnect the volume slider button ...
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Hy
How can i disconnect the volume slide button?
Can you help me please?
or there is't a program that can do it for myself via software?
to reassign the volume slider button to something else...
Thanks in advace Xplode
Paolo

Nonody can help me please?
what i hve to cut to exclude the colume slide bar?
Thank in advance
Paolo

Hi, my BA have the same trouble with volume up slider.
I tryed to hardreset and upgrade rom but it does not help. Opening cover and cleaning also do not fix the problem.
Last, I removed the main battery and wait about 1 hour until the backup battery is empty completely.
After power up again, my BA resets and ... operates normally.
I guess, some critical data is changed randomly in my BA by unknown reasons. The changing remains in memory of BA because of the backup battery. Hardreseting or rom upgrading did not restore the data. May be it likes CMOS of PC ?
Sorry for my bad English.
Huy Minh

Device Lock fault?

When I engage the native device lock on my HD I find that the volume buttons are still operable! Is this just a problem with my device or has anyone else experienced this.
Also does anyone have a solution to this annoyance that does not involve installing S2U2 (even though this program does render the volume buttons inoperable) or similar?

Can anyone confirm that their Touch HD locks the volume buttons when key locked please?

Same thing here

I can confirm the "bug".

Yup, same on mine here!

Same here - very annoying fault/bug!

mine is ok, vol buttons do not work when the device is locked.

Did you try using your vol button in sleep mode (screen off) or just lock mode?

Same here and it's driving me mental
Have compare the menus on this to the other HTC devices and found that the Lock Buttons Setting is not on this one.
I dont know why they have left this out but at a guess that because of the new 3.5mm jack they are allowing for people using as a walkman.

I accidentally found a solution to it here

Many thanks Prof!
"they are allowing for people using as a walkman." That must be why David!

Disable Hardware Buttons When Locked

I know this question has been asked already but has anybody yet found a way to disable to hardware buttons whilst the phone is locked to prevent accidently answering or rejecting an incoming call whilst removing the HD2 from your pocket or pouch?
I have tried various software, tweaks that i found whilst searching this site but cant get any of them to work
Had my HD2 since Tuesday and love it, just need to find a way to stop answering the phone when taking it out of the pouch!

This is very important thing and I hope someone will find a solution soon.........

hi
there are solutions, pokectshield and s2u
iosu

I too need this, I have tried the ones mentioned but they either dont work or they have their own slide ontop of the HTC slide, so 2 in effect.
Would be nice to have one that just disables the button!

S2u2 and pocket shield did not lock the volume buttons for me so when in pocket they were still pressed annoying me a lot when I listen to my tunes. Pressing any other button was bringing the screen back to lock so in other words no difference at all.

iosub said:
hi
there are solutions, pokectshield and s2u
iosu
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How is this done with S2U? I installed it and the buttons still worked.
My experience is that if anything the bigger slider caused more chance of it unlocking accidentally, if the phone moves and the screen rubs against your leg. Wasn't an issue with a resistive screen but mine was worse for 'unlocking itself' with S2U. So far it texted a nonsense sms to an ex and rang my mum all by itself - both dangerous!
I always put it in that way yo help protect the screen from being knocked accidentally.

There is a perfectly working solution for this here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=556801
Simple and nice, install and soft reset and never worry about pressing the button while taking your phone out of the cover.

umiss said:
There is a perfectly working solution for this here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=556801
Simple and nice, install and soft reset and never worry about pressing the button while taking your phone out of the cover.
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That application is for locking the hardward buttons when in a call, not when the phone is locked, or am I missing something?

Cret said:
How is this done with S2U? I installed it and the buttons still worked.
My experience is that if anything the bigger slider caused more chance of it unlocking accidentally, if the phone moves and the screen rubs against your leg. Wasn't an issue with a resistive screen but mine was worse for 'unlocking itself' with S2U. So far it texted a nonsense sms to an ex and rang my mum all by itself - both dangerous!
I always put it in that way yo help protect the screen from being knocked accidentally.
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I tried S2U2 also and having no problem disabling the call answer and call end buttons when there is incoming call.

johncmolyneux said:
That application is for locking the hardward buttons when in a call, not when the phone is locked, or am I missing something?
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It's quite the other way around. At least the cab I installed. Hardware buttons work in call, but when the phone is locked and there is an incoming call the buttons are locked (to prevent the accidental pressing).
Hence, not disabling anything you actually would like to use.
EDIT: This is what the description says:
"InCall Lock will temporarily disable Send (aka Talk, Green) and End (aka Red) hardware buttons when you receive an incoming call in order to prevent accidental call pickups/rejects while you are pulling your device out of your pocket. All other hardware buttons are untouched."
So the name can be obfuscating, but as the description says, the yes/no hardware buttons are disabled during an incoming call (prior to answering), but active during the actual call.

chongbh said:
I tried S2U2 also and having no problem disabling the call answer and call end buttons when there is incoming call.
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This thread is not about disabling buttons when there is an incoming call.

I can't believe there is not solution for this problem yet !

Xeon said:
I can't believe there is not solution for this problem yet !
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I don't know if I'm misinterpreting the question, but there is a solution for disabling the hardware keys to prevent accidental answer/reject of an incoming call which I've linked to earlier in this thread.
I have that solution installed right now, and when someone is calling I cant answer or reject by pressing the hardware buttons, I have to use the slider on the touch screen.

umiss said:
I don't know if I'm misinterpreting the question, but there is a solution for disabling the hardware keys to prevent accidental answer/reject of an incoming call which I've linked to earlier in this thread.
I have that solution installed right now, and when someone is calling I cant answer or reject by pressing the hardware buttons, I have to use the slider on the touch screen.
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What I want is to prevent the keypad from waking up the device unless you press the power key.

Cret said:
How is this done with S2U? I installed it and the buttons still worked.
My experience is that if anything the bigger slider caused more chance of it unlocking accidentally, if the phone moves and the screen rubs against your leg. Wasn't an issue with a resistive screen but mine was worse for 'unlocking itself' with S2U. So far it texted a nonsense sms to an ex and rang my mum all by itself - both dangerous!
I always put it in that way yo help protect the screen from being knocked accidentally.
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chongbh said:
I tried S2U2 also and having no problem disabling the call answer and call end buttons when there is incoming call.
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umiss said:
I don't know if I'm misinterpreting the question, but there is a solution for disabling the hardware keys to prevent accidental answer/reject of an incoming call which I've linked to earlier in this thread.
I have that solution installed right now, and when someone is calling I cant answer or reject by pressing the hardware buttons, I have to use the slider on the touch screen.
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No one here wants buttons to be disabled when call is incoming. We just want buttons to be disabled when you put device in to sleep.
Go on test it. Put music on in music tab or WM player or any other with your headphones or without. Press red button to put device in to sleep mode (use manual lock if you have disabled auto lock). Press volume buttons and see what happens.
If you have s2u2 or pocket shield or nothing effect is the same.

ruscik said:
No one here wants buttons to be disabled when call is incoming. We just want buttons to be disabled when you put device in to sleep.
Go on test it. Put music on in music tab or WM player or any other with your headphones or without. Press red button to put device in to sleep mode (use manual lock if you have disabled auto lock). Press volume buttons and see what happens.
If you have s2u2 or pocket shield or nothing effect is the same.
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I'm sorry but I can't agree with you. The thread clearly states in the first post
"has anybody yet found a way to disable to hardware buttons whilst the phone is locked to prevent accidently answering or rejecting an incoming call whilst removing the HD2 from your pocket or pouch?"
The answer to this is yes, and I've linked to the solution previously.

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No one here wants buttons to be disabled when call is incoming.
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Sorry buddy but you're quite wrong. That's EXACTLY what I want and apologies if I wasn't crystal clear in describing it - I may not have been since I also want the same as you.
Umiss - I'm going to go and check out that cab you mentioned because if that really works then brilliant!!!!

Cret said:
Sorry buddy but you're quite wrong. That's EXACTLY what I want and apologies if I wasn't crystal clear in describing it - I may not have been since I also want the same as you.
Umiss - I'm going to go and check out that cab you mentioned because if that really works then brilliant!!!!
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so how do you want to answer a call with this cab installed and enabled?
i also would like to prevent unwanted presses....but i do want to reject or accept a call on some way, without mispressing a button.

When a call comes in the screen is enabled so I just slide to answer or reject. It won't happen by accident in all likeliness, and removes the huge annoyance of the hardware buttons being accidentally pressed. It's the one thing that majorly pisses me off about this awesome phone.
If they wanted to, they could simply do a cab file that disables them perhaps when the proximity sensor detects the face of the phone is against something. That would be good too, unless I'm not considering some factor.

Hmmm, I've just installed that app and it seems to only partly work.
The reject call button locks perfectly but the answer button does not lock so it can still be pressed. I also managed to press the home button and get to the Sense screen once, but when I tried this a second time it didn't do it, so I think it might be a bit buggy.
A definite step in the right direction though, at least I now have fewer buttons that can be pressed accidentally!

[Q] Volume issue.

Hello. I would really appreciate help on this one.
I recently got an HTC HD mini T5555, OS version: 5.2.23103.
After performing hard reset everything on the cell works perfectly.
However, after a software installation, the volume buttons won´t make any change to volume when pressed.
The volume controll dosn´t even show up in the display. Now, If I perform yet another hard reset,
(the software installed will be removed) volume will be changable again.
The software itself has a built-in function for listening to music, making cals etc.
From within the software you can change the volume using its own controls (not HTC volume control).
That works fine.
The software is called "Handi".
"Handi is a program tailored for people with cognitive disabilities.
The most fundamental difference between the Handi and "normal" hand computer program
is that Handi-programs have far less information and less choice per view".
I have no experiences from other hand computer programs but assume they all work the same way.
I´m sure there is a way to fix this in the registry. Anyone got ideas or useful advice?
Need more info? I´ll try to give you as much as I know about it.
Thanks in advance!
Regards /Anders

First things that came up my mind:
1. The volume buttons are disabled by the software
2. The Volume software is overwritten (reg keys, or other files)
Maybe here is a solution by installing a cab with volume control:
http://htcpedia.com/forum/touch-hd-rom-development/1161-[request]-htc-volume-control.html
More custom volume controls:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=598997
But be careful, modifications can make you do a hard reset .

I installed the CAB but still the same...
Gonna search the registry instead. Thanks anyway!