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Accidential Answering

I use my 8525 in a side case and when the phone rings I usually pull out the phone to see who's calling to decide if i want to answer... though 9 out of 10 times i accidentally hit the answer button. I always lock my phone via device lock on today screen... is there a reg hack or setting which will allow me to disable or customize ALL the buttons (when in lock mode) on the 8525 so I don't accidentally answer. to me if i were to assign a button (ie power or ptt) to only be allowed to accept a call (when the phone is in lock mode) that'd be great. I'm tired of auto answering and what good does a device lock do if you can easily auto answer?

bumping this back up... Can I be the only one with this issue? If so how do you use your phone and not auto answer?

abricko said:
bumping this back up... Can I be the only one with this issue? If so how do you use your phone and not auto answer?
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Sorry you're not getting replies and I have no solution of the type you are looking for sadly. I've tried to replicate what you say happens but it's not easy!!! My key is not that easily pressed and I always put the device back with screen towards my body - my fingers don't seem to get very close to the green button.
This is probably daft to suggest but have you checked the setting that lets you specify auto answer within X number of rings - just in case it's answering the call by itself!!. (apologies if you checked this setting already!!)
Mike

This may do what you want...
http://www.pocketmax.net/smf/index.php?PHPSESSID=da5459e6aadc9c38d5a74b0276782091&board=19.0

Auto Answer is not set... the problem is (and it's a problem with the phone design) when the phone is locked none of the buttons respond until you hit the power button and then unlock the phone via the screen (which is good).
However when there is an incoming call or reminder the screen turns on and then a few buttons are active on the phone (send, end and the two soft keys seem to be). So when a phone call comes in, if the phone is in your pocket or the hip case while reaching for the phone it's VERY easy to accidentally press any of the active buttons and then accidentally accept or reject that call.
I've searched everywhere I can think of and I find little mention of this problem and no mention of a fix, most screen lock replacements only do as much locking as the WM5 built in lock does. The button re-activation after an incoming call is probably something built into the hardware. That's all I can deduce from this.
Thanks for the responses I've received so far.

I am on my fourth PDA phone and have used both Win Mobile 2003 and WM5. They all behaved this way and it is one of my biggest complaints with the Windows OS. I have seen apps for Palm that solve the problem. How hard could it be to have the option to only wake with the press of the power button?!

not hard at all, but the again its M$, i am surprised these devices to have ctrl-alt-del keys.

Locking / S2U2 / Stand by questions

Hi folks
I'm back again with some more dumb questions (bear with me - I'm Irish).
On my old Nokia, I could lock the phone by pressing 2 keys and hey presto, phone now safe!
With the HD, things seem a bit complex. Firstly, there's power managenent that controls how long the back light stays on for and how long the phone stays on for before going into stand by.
Q1. Is standby not another form of locking ? If so why not just press th epower button whenever you want to lock the phone and be done with it ?
Then there is the built in locking software that comes with the app.
Q2. Whats the problem with this? (i.e. long pressing the end key and choosing 'Lock the device'; Why do we even need S2U2 ?
Then there's S2U2 itself. The settings page is long and complex.
Q3. Is there a S2U2 manual anywhere ? (to explain some of those ambiguous settings)
Finally, and here is my most important question...
Q4. Can I use my HD like I used to use my Noika - i.e. press a key or 2 to lock the goddam phone an just be done with it ?
As it is, when I want to use my phone, I have to press the power button to take it out of standby, and then I have to slide the S2U2 unlock switch. Its a lot of hassle just to make a phone call.
Is it me? Am I that stupid? What am I doing wrong ? What am I missing ?

Doesn't pressing the "End call" button for 2-3 seconds also lock the phone?
Regards!

I do understand what you're saying. I figured out something really basic just the other day, that is if your phone is locked or in sleep mode just pull out your stylus and it'll unlock and wake up.
Just 1 movement.
Sorry if this is really common knowledge and you already know this but sometimes we overlook the more basic functions on such a complex device!!
Cheers
DB

Power button into standby is a fine lock for me. Nearly impossible to accidently knock the power button to turn it back on.

jon- said:
Power button into standby is a fine lock for me. Nearly impossible to accidently knock the power button to turn it back on.
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Yep i do this too.
Press the power button mate, and it will lock the phone
I like how the phone unlocks when you take the stylus out but i didnt like how it locks the phone when you put the stylus back in, so i removed that function using the options in gyrator

I have got TOUCH HD since 1week.
I haven't problem with touch hd like touch diamond.
it is in my pocket but the new phone canvas and the sensitive key prenve nt missing call.
for me no need s2u2 or pocket shield like diamond.

is there a registry option for disabling the unlock when the stylus is removed/falls out ????

matou25 said:
I have got TOUCH HD since 1week.
I haven't problem with touch hd like touch diamond.
it is in my pocket but the new phone canvas and the sensitive key prenve nt missing call.
for me no need s2u2 or pocket shield like diamond.
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why my HD no "Phone Canvas"?

Jezwick said:
is there a registry option for disabling the unlock when the stylus is removed/falls out ????
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I searched a long time for this, but I didn´t find a solution

Standby locking
I also "lock" my phone by sending it to standby with the power button. This seems to work realy good for me. The only problem is that the HD wakes up if someone is calling. So i often answer a call by accident. Does anyone know a way to deactivate the automatic wake up?
I tried the registry hack with autolocking but this doesn't work for calls either.

surfaczer said:
I also "lock" my phone by sending it to standby with the power button. This seems to work realy good for me. The only problem is that the HD wakes up if someone is calling. So i often answer a call by accident. Does anyone know a way to deactivate the automatic wake up?
I tried the registry hack with autolocking but this doesn't work for calls either.
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Have you tried HDTweak?

ScarySquirrel said:
Have you tried HDTweak?
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Please explain

device lock
gt112 said:
Hi folks
I'm back again with some more dumb questions (bear with me - I'm Irish).
On my old Nokia, I could lock the phone by pressing 2 keys and hey presto, phone now safe!
With the HD, things seem a bit complex. Firstly, there's power managenent that controls how long the back light stays on for and how long the phone stays on for before going into stand by.
Q1. Is standby not another form of locking ? If so why not just press th epower button whenever you want to lock the phone and be done with it ?
Then there is the built in locking software that comes with the app.
Q2. Whats the problem with this? (i.e. long pressing the end key and choosing 'Lock the device'; Why do we even need S2U2 ?
Then there's S2U2 itself. The settings page is long and complex.
Q3. Is there a S2U2 manual anywhere ? (to explain some of those ambiguous settings)
Finally, and here is my most important question...
Q4. Can I use my HD like I used to use my Noika - i.e. press a key or 2 to lock the goddam phone an just be done with it ?
As it is, when I want to use my phone, I have to press the power button to take it out of standby, and then I have to slide the S2U2 unlock switch. Its a lot of hassle just to make a phone call.
Is it me? Am I that stupid? What am I doing wrong ? What am I missing ?
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Hi try this small cab - cant remember where I got it from but it works!!
just install to device and then add into programs launch or start menu.
regards
jon

JPW said:
Hi try this small cab - cant remember where I got it from but it works!!
just install to device and then add into programs launch or start menu.
regards
jon
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You're Irish too, I presume?
The other option is you attached a very small cab.

OOOPS forgot cab
have edited post now
Jon

Should the device lock when I put the stylus in? I get the impression from this thread that it should but mine doesn't?

Call Pickup: Call pickup while phone is in my pocket. How to prevent?

hello xda community
i'm very new to the blackstone and this is my first post here. so please bear with me if i'm asking very basic questions here.
my problem:
i carry my blackstone in my pocket all the time. and many people told me throughout the last days that they called me and that i picked up the call by accident.
since i work at customer sites mostly my phone is muted. so people call me and somehow i pickup the calls while the phone is in my pocket.
i always turn of the screen and i have the automatic lock (password protection) enabled. still when the incoming call screen comes up it looks like it is possible that calls are being picked up.
i know there is the slide which has to be moved to the left in order to pickup calls.
i have tried myself by calling my from my home phone and touching the screen and the buttons at random. and indeed the calls are being picked up. i was not able to find out how this is happening ... but it does.
so is there any setting i can change or any additional piece of software i can install to make sure calls are only answered when i want?
possible a reg key i need to change?
any help is very much appreciated
cheers

This isn't just a problem with the Blackstone; every WM phone I have had does this. I have found that a good locking program handles this quie well. I personally like S2U2 by A_C, but there are many others available. You can look in the apps forum, or check the development & hacking forum from the main menu.
The other thing to check is that you have all your notifcations set properly. I set all of mine to vibrate only. Many of them turn on the screen by default. Unfortunately this won't fix the problem on its' own though.

mwelch16 ... thank you very much for the reply
i will give it a try and see how it works for me.
so that means first of all i will have to slide that iphone type of lock and then take the call by using the regular slider?
is there any other way (without) an additional piece of software to handle this? cause after all there is the build in slider ... but somehow it's not working as it is supposed to. any enhancement to that?
thanks again

Is there a way how to disable the CALL PICKUP button which is on the left? so the first of the four buttons?
I think it's because it getting pressed while my phone is in the pocket.
thanks a lot

I use Pocket Shield - it's not free (free to try though) but it's worked well for me

tibor78 said:
mwelch16 ... thank you very much for the reply
i will give it a try and see how it works for me.
so that means first of all i will have to slide that iphone type of lock and then take the call by using the regular slider?
is there any other way (without) an additional piece of software to handle this? cause after all there is the build in slider ... but somehow it's not working as it is supposed to. any enhancement to that?
thanks again
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No, S2U2 will unlock itself for a phone call and then lock the phone again after the call. So no need to slide to unlock and then answer your phone. It has a bunch of different settings, and yes I believe it locks the hard buttons.

thanks folks for the replies
i found all the settings i was looking for in the S2U2 options. so i'm good right now.
thanks again

You're probably answering the call by pressing the "phone" button (the very left of the four buttons on the bottom). You can either use those buttons to answer/hang up, or the on screen slider.

I've used AE Button Plus to disable the 'Answer' and 'End' hardware keys and re-mapped them to turn wifi and bluetooth off and on. This way there is no chance of hanging up on a call by mistake since you need to use the slide to answer on screen.

Similar but opposite problem
I'm having a problem along the same lines. If I get a call when the phone is in my pocket and answer it on my bluetooth headset, when the call ends the phone then rings someone else, usually the same person who is at the top of my contacts list. Not only is this damned annoying for me, it's getting a bit tedious for the person getting the unwanted calls.
Is there any way to get the phone to immediately lock as soon as a call terminates to prevent this happening? I'm assuming that once the call ends and it returns to the default contact/dial pad screen, the merest brush against the screen will be enough to start a new call.
I'm beginning to think I should have stuck with my iPhone

CreepinJesus said:
You're probably answering the call by pressing the "phone" button (the very left of the four buttons on the bottom). You can either use those buttons to answer/hang up, or the on screen slider.
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I've the exact same problem, 3/4 of the incoming calls rejected when I get the phone out of my pocket due to End button accidentally pressed.
What did they thought when they implement the slide to answer ????
The purpose of the slide to answer is to avoid such accident, but why the hell did they keep the Answer / End buttons active ????? total non sense to me.
Will check if this AE Button + app can solve this annoying behaviour.

has anyone tried Lockmelite?
It may help - haven't used it myself though.

x 2 for PocketShield. It uses the light sensor in your phone to prevent the touchscreen from activating when the device is inside, say, a pouch, or in your pocket.
I'm using evaluation version 2.6.2.10, which as I understand it, has full functionality, except that every now and then, randomly (and IMO infrequently enough to not be annoying) before unlocking it displays a 10 second message saying that you're using an evaluation version. Note that this *never* happens during an incoming phone call. Good stuff.

Hi,
Try TouchLockPro :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=444215
Now it handle light unlock in any cases, that as solved all my issues (pocket, in cas BT,...) and fulfill all my requirements.
BR

Pocket Shield doing perfect job for me

I use AE Buttons Plus to disable the "Answer" & "End" virtual buttons. Then I used iconsoft Phonext to handle all my calling functionalities. When a call comes in, Phonext display a lock screen which you have to slide before it presents you with all the options like answer, decline, silence etc.
This way, I never accidentally pickup a call or dial a number.

Buttons active in suspend mode!!

Hi All
On all my previous HTC devices when I was switchin the device off with power button none of other buttons were active. So pressing them did nothing. Only way to wake the device up was to press power button.
On Leo that is not the case. Now I remember that option was somewhere in windows but it appears to not be there anymore. When I have phone in pocket volume still works so it goes up and down. It also today somehow managed to unlocked it self when in poclet of my motorbike leathers including sliding the screen to unlock. Then it started calling hte wrong person while I was on m-way. Not a good thing.
Any idea where that option is?!

Only way i have found around this is to install S2U2 and set slide to answer as only way to answer phone. This disables buttons when there is a call. There is also a cab file you can install to set s2u2 as the default unlock screen.

ruscik said:
Hi All
On all my previous HTC devices when I was switchin the device off with power button none of other buttons were active. So pressing them did nothing. Only way to wake the device up was to press power button.
On Leo that is not the case. Now I remember that option was somewhere in windows but it appears to not be there anymore. When I have phone in pocket volume still works so it goes up and down. It also today somehow managed to unlocked it self when in poclet of my motorbike leathers including sliding the screen to unlock. Then it started calling hte wrong person while I was on m-way. Not a good thing.
Any idea where that option is?!
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If you are unlocking the lock screen, by sliding the slider all the way to one side, whilst it is in your pocket, then I suggest you get a priest to exorcise your pocket. This simply is not possible without your intervention.
I would suggest that you have come across the common (and very documented on this forum) problem of the lock screen not actually locking your device fully.
This is a known problem, with a 100% effective solution. Before you start a journey (which is obviously where this is most problematic for you) click start and then lock (the bottom left soft key). This re-enables the hardware lock. After that, it will work.

lindsaydr said:
Only way i have found around this is to install S2U2 and set slide to answer as only way to answer phone. This disables buttons when there is a call. There is also a cab file you can install to set s2u2 as the default unlock screen.
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Will try s2u2 then
johncmolyneux said:
If you are unlocking the lock screen, by sliding the slider all the way to one side, whilst it is in your pocket, then I suggest you get a priest to exorcise your pocket. This simply is not possible without your intervention.
I would suggest that you have come across the common (and very documented on this forum) problem of the lock screen not actually locking your device fully.
This is a known problem, with a 100% effective solution. Before you start a journey (which is obviously where this is most problematic for you) click start and then lock (the bottom left soft key). This re-enables the hardware lock. After that, it will work.
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My pocket is ghost free, as it is made of leather and in rain can get a bit moist it does work a bit on the screen.
Also if I select start and click lock all buttons still work.

ruscik said:
if I select start and click lock all buttons still work.
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Yes, but you need to slide to unlock if the lock screen is working correctly. This will not happen by accident, in your pocket.
You can only unlock your phone with the hardware buttons if the known issue of the lock screen rears it's ugly head.
Doing what I said, before each journey, will make sure that you cannot unlock the screen with a simple button-press.

Since installing S2U2 a few days ago I've had even worse problems with ghost unlocks than before.
Previously the only issue was accidentally cutting calls off, but with S2U2 I had a text from a friend on Friday asking if I was drunk. Somehow, whilst locked in my pocket it unlocked and sent a gibberish sms!
Then today, it also somehow unlocked in my pocket and dialled my mum!
I'm just glad I wasn't playing Call of Duty when it happened or she would have just heard "Sh1t!!! You cheating f***!!! WTF??? You..... FFS!!!!" etc
But seriously - I love S2U2 from previous winmo phones but it's made my HD2 worse so I've uninstalled it tonight sadly.

Cret said:
I'm just glad I wasn't playing Call of Duty when it happened or she would have just heard "Sh1t!!! You cheating f***!!! WTF??? You..... FFS!!!!" etc
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You're not as bad as me when I play COD/MW2 then, or you would have made several references to "the C word" lol

Cret said:
Since installing S2U2 a few days ago I've had even worse problems with ghost unlocks than before.
Previously the only issue was accidentally cutting calls off, but with S2U2 I had a text from a friend on Friday asking if I was drunk. Somehow, whilst locked in my pocket it unlocked and sent a gibberish sms!
Then today, it also somehow unlocked in my pocket and dialled my mum!
I'm just glad I wasn't playing Call of Duty when it happened or she would have just heard "Sh1t!!! You cheating f***!!! WTF??? You..... FFS!!!!" etc
But seriously - I love S2U2 from previous winmo phones but it's made my HD2 worse so I've uninstalled it tonight sadly.
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Well it took me all but 45 min to realise my problem is still there with s2u2 but other things are even worse so back to stock lock.
I am quite certain that option must still be in there. It was a tick box that stated lock all buttons except power button.

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You're not as bad as me when I play COD/MW2 then, or you would have made several references to "the C word" lol
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No - I'm the same exactly. I just was trying to be polite so I didn't get told off here!

HD2 screen lock needed during calls (capacitive screen is too sensitive)

Hi,
I love my new HD2, but i've got the following problem:
The proximity sensor works doesn't work 10% of the time and because the touchscreen is so sensitive, i end up pressing random buttons with my ear or face. I've been manually locking the screen during calls which:
- is really annoying
- doesn't really solve the problem, screen lock during calls does not require slider to unlock, just a regular button and also has a hang up button on it, so it's pretty much back to the original problem.
I know that there's many custom apps out there that can circumvent this issue but i like the stock lock screen (with slider), i don't need another one.
What i need is an app that automatically locks my screen using htc's "slide to unlock" screen after i accept incoming call or after my outgoing call is connected.
If anyone can help me with this i would apreciate it.

why not try s2u2
it has ability to lock after call is connected

do u have something in way of proximity sensor? case or screen protector? i had similar problem but after making bigger hole in screen protector it works 100%

@brkix: i would like a solution that uses the stock lock screen if possible
@lake: i have nothing of the sort, but i confirmed in several forums including this one that the proximity sensor is not 100% reliable

I exactly have the same problem. in my case I want to place a call then want to put the phone in its case while training or running whatsoever and I would really appreciate of being able to lock the keys in order to avoid accidental touching.

schlox said:
I exactly have the same problem. in my case I want to place a call then want to put the phone in its case while training or running whatsoever and I would really appreciate of being able to lock the keys in order to avoid accidental touching.
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man said everything
+1

SmartLock, offers incall and outcall lock. This may be your best option.

This CAB will lock the hardware buttons when you are in a call if that helps
http://www.cabcache.com/cabs.asp?cab=29

Do you have hair covering your ear?
Without wearing any head wear my sensor works 100% perfect.

Per advice in the second post, I've yesterday installed s2u2. Mates, this program works really good and answers my necessities. All I had to do was to put a short cut of the application to my main screen. Then, I just lock the device by tapping the lock button during a call.
There's even an option existing to lock the phone automatically when the backlight is off and/or during a call directly.

wingm4n said:
Hi,
... I've been manually locking the screen during calls ...
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Oh well! Please, tell me how you do it!
I'd pleased if at least I could manually deactivate the screen in order to avoid touching button with my cheek!
I've been trying to find an option to lock screen during a call without succeed.
Thanks,
Cheers!

I have the same problem. This part fails.

Sorry, but I insist... wingm4n: how do you lock the screen during calls?
I still haven't been able to find such option
Cheers,

Up....

Hit start then lock(at bottom left side of screen) after dialing or answering a call.

i have same issue...not with keylocks but with the screen!!!almost every time i make or receive a call with my phone in my pocket or by ear hd2 make itself an other call or push lots of function..and this is very annoying!!!i don't like s2u2...really doesn't any solution exist for solve this problem???
thank you!
Cheers!!

Smartlock
Take a look at this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=505032
It locks the screen during calls, and has some other settings as well. I've been using it for a while and it seems to work just fine. And best of all, its free.

in s2u2 settings, just set: "lock on talk" and deselect "lock device". in this way...lock screen will work only in a call. that's it

I used to have such problem during my first uses with the HD2, I would realize because all of a sudden I heard keypad tones (and so did the other person ) while hitting the dialer with my cheek.
After that, I started noticing IF the proximity sensor triggered or not.
It's not really "idle", it's just very "picky", you actually need your ear to cover it, and not just your head being in its way... I took te habit of checking the phone display with the back of my eye to see if it's on while I answer a call, and if it is all I need to do is to move it on my ear so I touch the area with the proximity sensor the display turns off again. Works for me practically 100% of the times now.

How to turn this off
I have a HD2 running the energy rom and when a call is connected it locks the screen. But I use google voice and need to be able to enter my pin. Anyone know how to get the screen not to lock during a call.