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Hi, I'm hoping to get the new Windows Mobile 5 device dubbed the HTC Universal, AKA o2 xda Exec.
TomTom tell me TomTom Navigator 5 is NOT compatible with it.
www.mobilefun.co.uk state that it is compatible.
Some people on forums say they have 5.1 working with the device.
Other people state the Bluetooth won't lock in.
Does anyone here know the truth?
Yes it will work
It works. I use TT 5.1 about every day (via a bluetooth receiver). Here's the instructions to install the program.
http://www.pocketgps.co.uk/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=28171&highlight=
Go about half way down.
To install your BT GPS receiver. First pair the device. Then add a new COM Port under the Bluetooth settings. You want to add an OUTGOING port. I usually specify it as COM0. Then start up TT5, go into GPS configuration, selct "Other BT Receiver", then select COM0 from the menu. TOMTOM will automatically start up BT (it doesn't have to on before you launch the program), find the already paired receiver and start communicating with (give it some time though. the whole process takes about 30 seconds to a minute).
Hope this helps.
Cool, thanks!
And finally... I assume the Universal can support 2 simultaneous bluetooth connections? E.g. can I use TomTom with the bluetooth GPS at the same time as speaking on a bluetooth car kit?
To keep things simple
Tomtom 5.0 does NOT work with the Universal. Tomtom 5.1 Does. Hpoe this helps
Received my T-Mobile UK MDA PRO today. I can confirm that TomTom 5.1 DOES work great on it with any bluetooth GPS device, although it was a few hours before I stumbled upon a thread in this forum which had instructions on how to get it working
jasjar works fine with tt5.1 and can connect at same time with gps,headset and many bluetooth devices
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Tomtom 5.0 does NOT work with the Universal. Tomtom 5.1 Does. Hpoe this helps
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Yes it does. I have 5.0 running on my JASJAR now. Haven't upgraded to 5.1 yet in case it breaks something.
just replace the tomtom navigator.exe with the 5.1 version, all done.
How on earth did you manage to get TT5.0 to work?
I have tried everything (all the above tricka and then some) and cannot get the right com port to show up from within Tomtom? Can you tell me step by step?
How on earth did you manage to get TT5.0 to work?
I have tried everything (all the above tricka and then some) and cannot get the right com port to show up from within Tomtom? Can you tell me step by step?
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I have tried everything (all the above tricka and then some) and cannot get the right com port to show up from within Tomtom? Can you tell me step by step?
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It does work, if you follow the guide in this thread exactly:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=28386
However, I had to use COM4 instead of COM0.
I also had a problem where I connected everything to the right COM port, could see TomTom accessing the GPS device by the LEDs, but still "no GPS device found!" - it seems TomTom likes your GPS device better if it's actually locked onto a signal (so go outside!), give all this a try
...talking of TTN5....
Has anyone had any success getting TT working with the Wired GPS mouse? Is there a way to connect it to the Exec...?(mini USB to serial connector?)
If the 2 can be physically connected, does the software see it/connect up properly?
TIA
cheers
Paul
FYI, I emailed TOMTOM about the installer crashing, and guess what they said. "TOMTOM 5 is not supported on the IMATE JasJar."
What a load of cobblers. It works perfectly well if you install it using the cab files. TOMTOM support is the biggest load of s**t I have ever come across.
JJ works fine with the following:
1) Navigon MN 5
2) TT 5.1
3) OnCourse Navigator
4) iGuidance
These have been tried and tested.
Just cause it's not supported it doesn't mean they don't think it'll work. it just means that they won't help you fix it if it goes wrong becuase they have not tested on that platform. always worth a try regardless of what the vendor or devlopers say!
Another MDA Pro with TT5
I just got an MDA Pro a couple of weeks ago, and being the fool I am, bought a copy of Tom Tom 5 from Fleabay (doh!).
On receipt, I could not get the software to load from my PC, and when trying to copy over the cab files manually, the ttn.cab file will not load on the PDA. On closer inspection, this has got something to do with 'Bekonl' so appers I have wasted some money on cracked software that does not work.
Is this right? Or if I can obtain an alternative ttn.cab file, will it load, if so will it be locked? I was just looking for a reasonable low priced SatNav solution - but this is proving to be harder than I thought!
For those of you coming from a WM2003 device you can simply install TomTom on a memory card on that. Take the memory card out and put in Universal. It works. That's it.
I am not unfortunately. I am coming from a Mk1 paper diary, a £3.99 map from the petrol station, and a bullet proof Nokia 6310i!
All help gratefully received though.
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I am not unfortunately. I am coming from a Mk1 paper diary, a £3.99 map from the petrol station, and a bullet proof Nokia 6310i!
All help gratefully received though.
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If the ttn cab fails to install try this;
uninstall all tomtom entries from remove programs.
Remove sd card from device
install gps.cab
soft reset (this is the important bit)
install ttn.cab
JJ
JJ works fine with Oziexplorer, Tomtom5x
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apologies for the noob question, ive searched but cant seem to find the answer so ill keep it quick and simple :
what do i need to have sat nav on my charmer i.e. hardware ? software ? subscription ?
help much appreciated
You'll need software like Tomtom with a reciever. I'm not sure if the charmer is capable of a wired reciever but for sure a bt reciever will work.
Hi,
Try to find out if your provider offers an online-service like t-mobile navigate in Germany.
I do not need certain software (costs €€€, needs to be upgraded, needs a card inserted) but I have to pay 2 € per route (all over Europe) plus GPRS-charges.
Bluetooth GPS Mouse with Sirf III is highly recommended. I have a Leadtek GPS mouse (sold as Blue Kit) and this is working fine.
CU - Anna
i have the bundled copliot package from tmob, you can buy it yourself with the BT gps reciever for approx £180 from http://www.clove.co.uk/products/products.asp?strAreaNo=400_5_4&intElement=25224
in the UK
or tomtom with BT gps reciever for approx £150 from http://www.pdamods.com/products.asp?cat=104
personally i prefer the accuracy of the CP maps (supplied by navteq) to the pretty bells and whistles of TT
for pocket gps advice, visit www.pocketgpsworld.com they do a speed camera database as well, so you know where the accident blackspots are :wink:
Here a list of questions/answers:
1. You DEFINITELY have to find an appropriate GPS receiver. BT does not work sometimes properly because of the "Microsoft-BT-Stack" installed on the MDAc II which means "I send sometimes and sometimes not" Be careful when choosing the right device.
2. How often do you need advice for routing? Twice a month? 5 times a day? (2/mths=online, 5/day=card)
3. If you prefer a card (GPB 150!!!) be aware of updating costs. You have to buy new cards for countries outside yours... And: Every year???
4. To find the right SW test reports on the Internet are very helpful. But be aware of the slow processor of our device - colourful 3-D-maps will slow down the system dramatically.
5. There is also a service called "TMC" - Traffic Message channel - which is provided by the radio stations. This means that you are able to avoid traffic jams. Your device should be able to receive this, it will be more interesting for inbuild radio/navigation-systems ... I have not done much recherche on this - but my first choice was the online service - might be they will be able to update routes in this manner.
6. - off topic: Here in Hamburg we have a street where the one-way-direction is changed twice a day - as I remember: at 4 pm outwards until 6 am (?) and vice versa. As I was told this is the only street in D where this happens - I will try that soon and report.
Have a nice evening
Anna
P.S.: Hi jonajuna - nice to see you again
regards traffic updates, forgot to say that alk europe (copilot people) do 2 years free subscription to traffic master live with their complete packages (bt gps and software/maps on sd card).
i have never had connection probs with the CP supplied BTGPS3 reciever AS LONG as you remember to switch on the reciever before enabling BT on your mdac2 (once youve run through pairing the devices within the CP UI
i also succesfully use memorymap with the CP reciever for satnav when on foot in the hills which did take a bit of fiddling to set up the BT to go through a virtual serial port, but once done, equally as reliable)
hi back at you anna
edit: oops my bad, i just read that the 2 years traffic subs are only for those that get CP6 bundled with a new Tmob ppc or smartfone
In Australia I've been sucessfulling using Destinator software ware with a GlobalSat BT338 GPS reciever on the imate JAM/XDA Mini.
Connected up fine, along with a Jabra BT headset at the same time.
Also in Australia using Tom Tom 5.21 and Holux GR 232 with no problems.
Has anyone successfully had a navigation package running via the GPS ID (intermediate driver) that comes shipped with WM5 on an XDA Exec? I have enabled the feature using the registry change to set "Hide" to zero, and configured it to find my Bluetooth GPS receiver.
The software I developed (which uses the GPSGetPosition() API call, not a serial port) works perfectly well. But I have tried the Dell Navigation software and found that it will not work via the program port. My customers report the same (or similar) problems with TomTom Navigator 5 and CoPilot 5.
Obviously my next step is to try Navigon 5 (which works on my Axim x51 via the GPS ID) on the Exec and see if it works the same way, which would help me narrow down the fault to the driver or the nav software. But I just wondered if anyone has actually seen this working on the Exec?
i don't have a gps (yet ;-) but i would think that Pocket Streets (shipped with Autoroute) would support it, as it's a Microsoft application.
Well, the whole point of the way it works is that anything that works with a serial NMEA GPS output should support it. Just seems a little coincidental that between me and two customers we've now had three nav systems that don't like it, all on the same platform.
where?
I want to down
I've purchased and installed the TomTom 6 navigation software with some specific maps but am having a problem with getting a bluetooth GPS device to properly partner up with the device and software. When I ask the 8525 to establish a 'new partnership' it finds the BT-GPS-359 GPS receiver, but when I go to 'partnership settings' I only get a selection of 'Serial Port' for 'services to use from this device'. I would assume here that I would get the TomTom software option to choose. When I open the TomTom software and ask to configure the GPS receiver it isn't properly being located. Is there some specific settings I need to use with Com Ports? Any suggestions to get these devices working together would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
Create an outgoing com port assigned port 2 and try to find it using TT6. That is what I did with my BT-338
aadadams said:
Create an outgoing com port assigned port 2 and try to find it using TT6. That is what I did with my BT-338
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Thanks...that did the trick. So now when I want to use the Navigation software do I just turn on the GPS receiver and start the TomTom software and it will automatically 'partner' for navigation purposes?
Yep, that is it.
You can even minimize it and place a call... it doesn't miss a beat! I'm definitely impressed with it!
...then you can maximize it using the red icon in bottom tray and continue the call.
I have to admit that after getting the partnership working and using the 8525 as a GPS navigator...I am really impressed. I've never used GPS navigation so don't have much to compare it to, but with the 8525 displayed in a mount on the dash and the tomtom software working I have found it very accurate today in getting me to my destination (and gee....I even have multiple choices for the voice I want to hear!!)
TomTom 6 makes my TyTn freeze sometimes; any idea why..?
Prerna said:
TomTom 6 makes my TyTn freeze sometimes; any idea why..?
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ROM v1.35 will freeze randomly for lots of different apps, usually when they are first loaded. It looks like AKU 3.3 has fixed this problem, so hopefully we won't be seeing these random freezes any more.
John
Does TT6 let you use the slide-out keyboard for entering destinations etc?
Anyone?
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TheBrit said:
Does TT6 let you use the slide-out keyboard for entering destinations etc?
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Yes.......
vijovame said:
Yes.......
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Thanks - now I know which car cradle to get.
I just wish I could find a way to mute driving directions for places I go every day and just get a "CONGESTION AHEAD" from TT Traffic.
Hi there,
How do you get out of full screen mode and see wm5 status bar? I am stuck in full screen.
Help?
Thanks
Richardracer
richardracer said:
Hi there,
How do you get out of full screen mode and see wm5 status bar? I am stuck in full screen.
Help?
Thanks
Richardracer
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hit the end call button ( at least on my TYTN )
TheBrit said:
Does TT6 let you use the slide-out keyboard for entering destinations etc?
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Yes but the display won't go into landscape (side ways) it'll stay in the normal display but as soon as you press a key on the keyboard the TT6 on screen keyboard will pop up which is big enough to use your fingers.
Thanks
Hi rgreenpc,
Mnay thanks, that seems to do the trick.
Richrdracer
can somebody compare the speed difference between tt6 and tt5.21.
my tt5.21 need sooo long to start up (45 sec!!). Is tt6 quicker?
Someone found a trick to use the old tt5 maps?
As indicated in other posts on this site, I found that TT6 slows up and sometimes freezes when Points of Interest (POIs) are used. In the UK we have lots of speed cameras and setting these on certainly causes TT6 to freeze on my MDA Vario II (HTC TyTn). After turning off all POIs I just completed a trip with no freezes and the display was far smoother - with the POIs on it was jerking and lagged behind current position.
I have the Holux GPSSlim 240 BT receiver and found it impossible to get it to work reliably with TT6 unless I stopped WM5 from managing the GPS receiver. After unticking "Manage GPS automatically ..." all works well with TT6 and this receiver. Interestingly I cannot get it to work with Google Map (for PPC) without having WM5 manage the GPS receiver!
On my device TT6 start-up performance (without any route set) is:
- Display of normal route screen - 8-15 secs
- BT then turns on within - 20 secs
- TT6 sees GPS receiver - 25-35 secs
- TT6 displays GPS info - 27-37 secs
(all time elapsed from TT6 start) Before I removed the tick for WM5 control of GPS data it took up to 5 mins for TT6 to see the GPS receiver, and sometimes TT6 never saw the GPS receiver at all - even though it was working and Google map was able to see it every time.
I have not applied the 6.01 upgeade yet - are there any improvements? Have others found this issue with WM5 mangement and is it fixed with the upgrade?
Hope this is of help to some.
I'm having real problems gettings TomTom Nav 5 to run on my X1.
I had it running fine on a Touch Pro (UK o2 stock), but the phone had a fault. So did the replacement phone, so I've now ended up with an X1 which as far as I can tell is pretty much the same hardware as the Touch Pro (excet for the screen size, obviously).
On previous HTC phones I've had to manually install TomTom Nav5 from the three cabs in the 2577 directory as the autorun.exe setup would fail. BUT the install worked fine and the software ran fine afterwards.
With the X1, when I run up the software I get a corrupted agreement screen (attached as iagree.png) which stays on screen for about 10-15 seconds, then the Windows Mobile 'there was a problem' screen (attached as problem.png).
This repeats a couple of times after sending the log data, then I'm back to my programmes folder.
Has anyone managed to get Nav 5 to work on the X1?
I know poeple have Nav7 working, but as I bought Nav5 and it worked on the Touch Pro I am loath to spend more money on software which was doing me fine up unutil this phone (I also have a Go910 which I use for most SatNav use, but its handy to have my old Nav5 on my phone for when I don't have the Go with me).
Cheers,
FM
TomTom Navigator 7 works fine on the X1.
http://www.tomtom.com/landing_pages/navigator7/en-gb/
As I said, I know TTN 7 works on the X1, but I have a fully paid for version of TTN5.
TTN5 worked fine on my Touch Pro, until the Touch Pro developed a fault. o2 are not able to supply the Touch Pro (Serra) any more in the UK, so I've had to make do with an X1.
I don't want to have to pay for TTN7, and I'd rather not have to go down the route of a cracked version of TTN7 when, as I say, I have a fully legit paid for version of TTN5.
TTN5 worked fine on all of my previous HTC phones, o2 XDA IIs, o2 XDA Mini S, O2 XDA Orbit and the Serra. The Serra being the first of the phones I've had with a VGA screen but TTN5 coping with it perfectly.
Woudl have been nice if TT had offered an upgrade path to TTN7 (or even TTN6), but they chose not to.
Now I'm stuck with a phone that won't run what I've paid for - because of o2 taking 3 months to replace my (Serra) handset with a new one (they failed to repair the firs, then replaced it with a refurb with a different fault!)
TTN5 installs OK, as I say in the first post, but fails to run with not much clue as to what might be causing it.
What are the diffs between the X1 and the Serra other than different screen resolution and aspect ratio, the missing accelerometer and different keyboard and keys layout? From the specs they appear to be very very similar, and the OS is surely the same (or could there be missing dlls from the o2 ROM maybe?)
-FM
Same here. For me it was even the guy from the TomTom helpdesk indicating that only TT7 will work on an X1 but that this version is not for sale.
He was very sorry that he could not help me with a legitimate solution...
When did you speak to TomTom? TTN7 is now out and available for WinMo phones.